The Syndicate

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:15 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:14 pm Also on a totally different note before the Day ends. We should treat the town majority as being one shorter with “The World” card being present essentially can turn a player into a survivor style role
Shh

If I don’t say this before we draw cards people will assume I drew it

That was a quick 24 hours

There’s no good reason to vote Roxy at this point

We also just had a massive last minute movement away from Allison onto someone who flipped civ. This is scummy and Allison needs to be voted off this phase to properly sort out last phase. For example, if she’s mafia Mac looks very bad as well.

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:22 pm can we not kill jack (this is an order)

Why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:34 pm I have decided I am not playing this day. See you day 3.

Was this a

See you day 3

Or

See you day 3

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you
They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).

Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .

Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:25 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:22 pm can we not kill jack (this is an order)
I really think you should not try to order people around. Having a single person dictating wagons massively destroys the ability for people to hunt and makes it easy for wolves to hide behind you when you're wrong/ find ways to mitigate damage from you when you're right.

Also it makes Sig want to do the exact opposite

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:33 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you
Sig has produced no coherent content and has made primarily bad votes. In conclusion, he is objectively null but you should get rid of him after you clear the main suspects because once he starts wolfsiding he doesn't stop.

I know she’s dead and ooof was a civ. But, I’ll still respond.

1. This is quiet honestly a horrible take and why I’m still okay with her being voted and flipped. The idea we should vote for someone since “Once he starts wolfsiding he won’t stop” makes Zero sense what so ever, isn’t a very town centric way to play the game and let’s be real I might not be doing the most, but in terms of wolfsiding there’s a good 3-5 players being more “wolfsidingy” than me. (This is a dumb term to start with since unless a town member is intentionally throwing they’re not siding with a wolf. It just means they don’t agree with you.

2. I’ve had a lot of coherent thoughts, I’ve made multiple reads and laid out who I would and wouldn’t vote for. Just because I’m not building mega cases right now doesn’t mean I’m not giving reads.

3. I’ve literally voted for two players, the first was an obvious joke vote the second was for Allison where it remained with logically thoughts for said vote.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:31 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:15 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:04 pm Howdy ladies and theys

I read the first two pages. Can someone give me the tl;dr of what happened and who should I iso?
Hello Sabi.

Day 1 came down to a tvt between Alison and Fingersplints. Alison's main suspects were Roxy and Kate ie. you. Fingersplints largely got pushed to a counterwagon of Alison by me and SPF. I thoughy FS was very wolfy and also slanky.

Neon seems to have been randomly killed due to the tower.
I see. What made people push Alison to be a wagon?

What are the other thoughts so far? Who do I need to iso?
A bunch of sketchy people were voting her for terrible reasons on D1 despite the fact that she was super villagery, then people wanted to flip her D2 due to tinfoils and “resolve the wagons” etc.
fwiw she hated your slot early on but then decided Kate had townslipped.

@sabie12 first welcome!

Second I’m not directly quoting you so tagging you.

Third I’m gonna disagree with this thought,

Allison was playing a sketchy game and the only people clearing her weren’t being read as civ. She also received a lot of votes day 2 meaning their was a consensus and their was a last minute CFD onto splints to save her (who flipped civ)

From a reading perspective I’d probably try to read the first like 3-5 pages and then the last 3-5 pages see what pops up and ISO based off that. Also whoever you’re most familiar with id ISO since you can make a meta read

I’m not caught up and likely won’t be today. Just gonna do some quick skimming respond to my pings ect. But, can we stop with the heavy doomsday talk? Like dude it’s day 3 we’re only down 3 players it isn’t the end of the world. This is a very anti town perspective to have tbh.

Also stop expecting people to be chronically around all the time. I already saw one person during my skimming say I wasn’t around like this phase just started people have real life things going on. We can’t all be on and posting at all hours of the day

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:45 am
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:11 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:53 pm i am hard vetoing alison lynch today
Lucy, assuming you’re IC it does mean your reads are genuine, but it’s usually town leading misvotes anyway so until you’ve got solid info like red checks I don’t think you should have an oversized say tbh.
Weak argument.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:11 pm I think Alison ane Creatuee both look bad. Creature is jumping from wagon to wagon with very little actual posts to back it up. While Alison keeps coming out with really bad takes that at the very least don’t seem pro civ. The big 3 I heavily dislike is her back and forth with Roxy, trying to let Lucy decide who we’re voting, and being so pro voting off lower posters.

I also think we’re seeing some attempts to shift focus by the mafia team away from the leading wagons.
What attempts? From which people? The wagons remained tightly clustered around ABC wagons this entire time.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:33 pm I also wouldn’t consider Mac a strong town voice the more I think about it. He isn’t cleared, he hasn’t led the charge of a flipped mafia member ect,

And while we know Lucy is a civ that doesn’t mean she’s right so is that a strong town voice?
More discrediting.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:34 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:23 pm @sig
@Jackofhearts2005
@Roxy
@fingersplints
@falcon45ca

Alison flips town > who are the wolves on your wagon? Who are the town?

Alison flips wolf > who bussed? who is pure?
Well I’ll say it’s possible for us all to be civ unless mafia is also up to be voted off. However, I’d eye Falcon or Splints the most of us.

If she flips mafia then Myself and Jack are town for sure and I’d say roxy looks very good. But, given the game State I think it would depend on Indy player style whether they’d bus or even vote for a top wagon.

Realistically I’d say the players voting off major wagons should be eyed closely if Alison doesn’t flip mafia and we aren’t thinking the counter wagons are mafia either
This literally just states "no matter what Alison flips, me and my buddies Roxy and Jack always look dandy".

I would rather be voted out than go back on my thoughts when I comes to Lucy and this idea that a “strong town core” was present day 1.

The only people that claimed there were a strong town core were people in said core which just doesn’t work and it isn’t smart to do day 1.

Here’s the thing if you can’t convince the majority or at least a plurality of players that you’re the town core and why So and So should be voted off you aren’t playing the game right.

And just saying so and so is in the town core so don’t have any reads that go against them is counter productive and again not how this works.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:40 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:36 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:31 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:15 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:04 pm Howdy ladies and theys

I read the first two pages. Can someone give me the tl;dr of what happened and who should I iso?
Hello Sabi.

Day 1 came down to a tvt between Alison and Fingersplints. Alison's main suspects were Roxy and Kate ie. you. Fingersplints largely got pushed to a counterwagon of Alison by me and SPF. I thoughy FS was very wolfy and also slanky.

Neon seems to have been randomly killed due to the tower.
I see. What made people push Alison to be a wagon?

What are the other thoughts so far? Who do I need to iso?
A bunch of sketchy people were voting her for terrible reasons on D1 despite the fact that she was super villagery, then people wanted to flip her D2 due to tinfoils and “resolve the wagons” etc.
fwiw she hated your slot early on but then decided Kate had townslipped.

@sabie12 first welcome!

Second I’m not directly quoting you so tagging you.

Third I’m gonna disagree with this thought,

Allison was playing a sketchy game and the only people clearing her weren’t being read as civ. She also received a lot of votes day 2 meaning their was a consensus and their was a last minute CFD onto splints to save her (who flipped civ)

From a reading perspective I’d probably try to read the first like 3-5 pages and then the last 3-5 pages see what pops up and ISO based off that. Also whoever you’re most familiar with id ISO since you can make a meta read
Allison wasn’t sketchy in the least. She was taking aggressive stances but also re-evaluating and evolving her reads. The people voting for her were mostly terrible like you.

Allison was sketchy we can go back and forth in this but end of the day enough players thought she was so whatever.

Also to say people were terrible for voting someone off is laughable seeing how you went for a non posting non active civ instead now THAT was a terrible wagon

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:55 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:32 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:33 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you
Sig has produced no coherent content and has made primarily bad votes. In conclusion, he is objectively null but you should get rid of him after you clear the main suspects because once he starts wolfsiding he doesn't stop.
I know she’s dead and ooof was a civ. But, I’ll still respond.

1. This is quiet honestly a horrible take and why I’m still okay with her being voted and flipped. The idea we should vote for someone since “Once he starts wolfsiding he won’t stop” makes Zero sense what so ever, isn’t a very town centric way to play the game and let’s be real I might not be doing the most, but in terms of wolfsiding there’s a good 3-5 players being more “wolfsidingy” than me. (This is a dumb term to start with since unless a town member is intentionally throwing they’re not siding with a wolf. It just means they don’t agree with you.

2. I’ve had a lot of coherent thoughts, I’ve made multiple reads and laid out who I would and wouldn’t vote for. Just because I’m not building mega cases right now doesn’t mean I’m not giving reads.

3. I’ve literally voted for two players, the first was an obvious joke vote the second was for Allison where it remained with logically thoughts for said vote.
[VOTE: sig] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:13 pm @sig please bus Roxy.

I’m still not convinced she’s mafia? Did we get some sort of info or what

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:19 pm How has Creature managed to avoid being read by me for so long this is actually wild

Creature can you just do something that would make you lock town or wolf so I don't have to do it myself great thanks

Actually the following people:
Creature
Bereft
Sig
Sabi

I will be paying close attention to because I have very much neglected these people and probably someone else I can't remember right now

Well remember my statistic joke? Boom town read, rock solid 100% lock town for that.

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:03 pm The only piece that doesn't fit in my analysis is Wilgy. But I think that's because Wilgy is the Zealot.

So I do think you’re a civ. But, the idea that you just solved the entire game pre flip/have multiple mafia members pinned isn’t very realistic. Maybe 1 or 2, but this early on I caution against this since we could easily just have set up a circular firing squad of town in town violence.

In fact I’d say the same thing for some of Allison’s reads. We shouldn’t be going off legacy for votes especially not more than one vote. It’s the same situation as following Lucy blindly you’re providing so much cover for mafia.

If anything we should be looking for mafia amongst the happy go lucky let’s do whatever xyz said since realistically that’s where they are if they aren’t Leading the charge

So here’s the thing I’m not building a case right now. But, we’re in 1 of 2 scenarios

1: Town is playing an extremely stupid game with almost no logic behind it.

2: Mafia are essentially leading the game with maybe a low key player or two onboard.

I’m thinking 2 I think mafia used the night card to get Allison yanked very early into the day so they could then “follow her legacy reads” for the next few phases. This’ll cause both me and Roxy to be voted off eliminated two more civs during the day + 2 night kills and they’ll get away with it due to bad town game play and general mehness.

So I’m leaning toward Mac being civ his frustration right now doesn’t seem to be coming from a place of mafia, I’d also say Roxy is a civ since mafia roxy wouldn’t storm off like that.

I’m very much thinking TuuTuu is mafia. She’s active she’s around and she’s even pushing votes but doing very little in the splash making department. She’s also heavily pushing the plan ti follow Alison legacy.

Also on that note one of Allison legacy reads of mafia was Neon who alreayd flipped civ so why are we even thinking about letting her decide the wagons from the grave! This is extra true when you consider a card was played to remove her and we’ve got no clue what alignment played it

I’m also not gonna vote Roxy to save myself since again I’m not seeing her being mafia.

I’ll probably attempt a quick ISO of a few people tomorrow but it’ll depend on work.

Also are we just going to keep ignoring that Rondo is still claiming IC?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:29 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:11 pm So here’s the thing I’m not building a case right now. But, we’re in 1 of 2 scenarios

1: Town is playing an extremely stupid game with almost no logic behind it.

2: Mafia are essentially leading the game with maybe a low key player or two onboard.

I’m thinking 2 I think mafia used the night card to get Allison yanked very early into the day so they could then “follow her legacy reads” for the next few phases. This’ll cause both me and Roxy to be voted off eliminated two more civs during the day + 2 night kills and they’ll get away with it due to bad town game play and general mehness.

So I’m leaning toward Mac being civ his frustration right now doesn’t seem to be coming from a place of mafia, I’d also say Roxy is a civ since mafia roxy wouldn’t storm off like that.

I’m very much thinking TuuTuu is mafia. She’s active she’s around and she’s even pushing votes but doing very little in the splash making department. She’s also heavily pushing the plan ti follow Alison legacy.

Also on that note one of Allison legacy reads of mafia was Neon who alreayd flipped civ so why are we even thinking about letting her decide the wagons from the grave! This is extra true when you consider a card was played to remove her and we’ve got no clue what alignment played it

Mafia response

Okay, so I guess everyone is ignoring we’ve got two oracles claims then

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:52 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:43 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:29 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:11 pm So here’s the thing I’m not building a case right now. But, we’re in 1 of 2 scenarios

1: Town is playing an extremely stupid game with almost no logic behind it.

2: Mafia are essentially leading the game with maybe a low key player or two onboard.

I’m thinking 2 I think mafia used the night card to get Allison yanked very early into the day so they could then “follow her legacy reads” for the next few phases. This’ll cause both me and Roxy to be voted off eliminated two more civs during the day + 2 night kills and they’ll get away with it due to bad town game play and general mehness.

So I’m leaning toward Mac being civ his frustration right now doesn’t seem to be coming from a place of mafia, I’d also say Roxy is a civ since mafia roxy wouldn’t storm off like that.

I’m very much thinking TuuTuu is mafia. She’s active she’s around and she’s even pushing votes but doing very little in the splash making department. She’s also heavily pushing the plan ti follow Alison legacy.

Also on that note one of Allison legacy reads of mafia was Neon who alreayd flipped civ so why are we even thinking about letting her decide the wagons from the grave! This is extra true when you consider a card was played to remove her and we’ve got no clue what alignment played it

Mafia response
MaFiA rEsPoNsE

Okay then how about childish response? Since that definitely applies now.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:03 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:57 pm Why is sig selfvoting?
i think he either missclicked or he's representing an emotional reaction to my emojis but he doesn't wanna go as far as to fake being too upset coz it's not very characteristic of him (hence not saying anything) (ive never seen him upset neither in mafia nor on discord)

Nah I just needed to vote somewhere for like reasons so threw it on me for the time being it isn’t staying there

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:43 am
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you
They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).
Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .

Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game
Is Creature weaving a false narrative in your mind? What's your read on them?

I’d throw creature down as a scum lean, there response to me have been off for most of the game (I guess this falls more into the gut read camp) and he seems to be more actively pushing wagons than civ creature does.

I’d be curious to see if this Roxy flip is current since he’s been pushing it, but if she flips civ he’d be someone I’m eyeing a lot more.

He’s also on my ISO list so I’ll have more infor here soon

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:16 am
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:53 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:43 am
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you
They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).
Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .

Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game
Is Creature weaving a false narrative in your mind? What's your read on them?
I’d throw creature down as a scum lean, there response to me have been off for most of the game (I guess this falls more into the gut read camp) and he seems to be more actively pushing wagons than civ creature does.

I’d be curious to see if this Roxy flip is current since he’s been pushing it, but if she flips civ he’d be someone I’m eyeing a lot more.

He’s also on my ISO list so I’ll have more infor here soon
This post feels very teammate indicative if Creature flips W.
That struck me as well...like, Sig thinks Creature is accusing him of being sketchy and spinning a nonsense narrative, but he doesn't want to push back? And constantly referring to himself as LHF, but is he doing anything about that?

I was basically ignored with the handful of real reads I tried to give and the vocal players have already decided to follow Allison’s legacy so like yea I’m not gonna spend that much time on this game right now tbh.

Also and this is a PRIME issue of town right now and in this game. People are building entire mafia teams without getting a single flip then continuing to tunnel on “links” without the first chain even built. I think quite honestly town is moving in the totally wrong direction.

People have way over posted on nonsense also which makes it impossible to do any proper catch ups.

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:49 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:43 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:41 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:38 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:35 am This checks out, if we still assume you count as IC because you lied about being oracle (which I very much question why that decision was made but okay)

I do think you genuinely believe everyone thinks you're town because you CC'd so sure, you can be town. For now.
I have two claims to IC this game one of them is oracle
I don't think I want to open this can of worms

I LIED YES I DO AAAAGAGAGAGAG what are those claims
If you cant figure them out then you dont get to know SON
That's mildly frustrating but I also don't think I care enough to figure it out so I think I'll just let this cultivate attention. Maybe someone else can tell me cuz I'm not about to do both that and this french homework

Lucy claimed day 1

Rondo counter claimed and everyone is saying “he’s trolling” and ignoring it. Which honestly is ridiculous we should be voting him out for counter claiming a Cleared town and a acting as if he’s lock town

I’m likely going to try and do some quick little stuff later but I will say this now with 100% confidence.

Mafia is either running these wagons or sheeping these wagons to the extreme. This’ll be especially accurate once Roxy flips civ.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:02 pm The biggest problem with this game is that at least half the living town are wolfsiding which makes it hard to see who is wolfsiding town vs. just a wolf and makes it really effective for some of the wolves to deepwolf and townside.

This is the sort of game where when you hit dvc and get spoiled you go "oh lol town is fucked".

SPF, Bereft and Tutuu may contain mafia (and I think just does). But the way the game is being played means if one of them is they have easy steps mapped out to win. Any pressure on them is laughable. They can just ignore it and it will go nowhere.

To me the POE should be something like Sabi, Jack, Wilgy but the actual POE is Creature, Sig and Roxy. I think Roxy is probably going to flip mafia but if she does I expect it to lead to many chained town deaths because Roxy would have been being positioned by the mafia to gain full cred from by now and I strongly doubt given the way this game is being played that the town will coalesce to a degree to actually resolve it that way. Most likely it just leads to whoever is town in the aforementioned names just dying.

My personal must resolve POE is.

Tutuu
Jack
Roxy
Sabi

I don’t think Roxy is mafia but I’m 100% onboard tuutuu and there could potentially be one mafia member among Alison legacy

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:20 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:17 pm If one puts:

Bereft
lucy
RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall
Porscha
Seanzie
staypositivefriend
falcon45ca

as town, then the game is near locked so I don't quite see the issue here.
Do you think all these players are town?
I do.

I think Rondo is about as near IC status as lucy is. You're literally an IC. Porscha feels great. Seanzie feels grounded even if insane and seems obviously confbiased. SPF just feels like v!SPF. Falcon I'm going on a meta read that no one to this point actually disagrees with.

I'm willing to bet

lucy
Rondo
Mac
Dennis
Porscha

town with my life and expect max 1 w in

Seanzie
SPF
Falcon

Why is Rondo near IC status? Since he said so or like is there a real reason.

Follow on anyone more familiar with his meta is this something mafia rondo would do for shits and giggles

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:26 pm meh it's fine actually, i was just pinged because it felt to me like you were implicitly strawmanning the wagon on roxy by implying it is ~solely~ because of alison's legacy.

i think the fact that roxy has given up on playing the game entirely and appears to be in anti-spew by all indications is the strongest reason i have for her being a wolf

I mean it kinda is isn’t it? That seems to be the driving force behind the majority of the votes on said wagon and I’ve seen almost no case building around her. Granted I’m not fully caught up from last phase but still if the Allison situation hadn’t occurred would she be getting voted right now?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:27 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:52 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:49 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:43 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:41 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:38 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:35 am This checks out, if we still assume you count as IC because you lied about being oracle (which I very much question why that decision was made but okay)

I do think you genuinely believe everyone thinks you're town because you CC'd so sure, you can be town. For now.
I have two claims to IC this game one of them is oracle
I don't think I want to open this can of worms

I LIED YES I DO AAAAGAGAGAGAG what are those claims
If you cant figure them out then you dont get to know SON
That's mildly frustrating but I also don't think I care enough to figure it out so I think I'll just let this cultivate attention. Maybe someone else can tell me cuz I'm not about to do both that and this french homework

Lucy claimed day 1

Rondo counter claimed and everyone is saying “he’s trolling” and ignoring it. Which honestly is ridiculous we should be voting him out for counter claiming a Cleared town and a acting as if he’s lock town
Yikes.gif

I think that claim is 100% NAI but I don’t like someone in the suspect pool pushing someone else in the suspect pool for bad reasons.

Nah, that’s a solid reason to push someone you don’t counterclaim an IC, then act like an IC, without it being brought up

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:31 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:27 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:20 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:17 pm If one puts:

Bereft
lucy
RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall
Porscha
Seanzie
staypositivefriend
falcon45ca

as town, then the game is near locked so I don't quite see the issue here.
Do you think all these players are town?
I do.

I think Rondo is about as near IC status as lucy is. You're literally an IC. Porscha feels great. Seanzie feels grounded even if insane and seems obviously confbiased. SPF just feels like v!SPF. Falcon I'm going on a meta read that no one to this point actually disagrees with.

I'm willing to bet

lucy
Rondo
Mac
Dennis
Porscha

town with my life and expect max 1 w in

Seanzie
SPF
Falcon
Why is Rondo near IC status? Since he said so or like is there a real reason.

Follow on anyone more familiar with his meta is this something mafia rondo would do for shits and giggles
100% yes but also no.

Imma just throw this into the “if he flips mafia I’ll gloat about it post game bucket” since nobody else seems to care

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:33 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:27 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:52 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:49 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:43 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:41 pm

I don't think I want to open this can of worms

I LIED YES I DO AAAAGAGAGAGAG what are those claims
If you cant figure them out then you dont get to know SON
That's mildly frustrating but I also don't think I care enough to figure it out so I think I'll just let this cultivate attention. Maybe someone else can tell me cuz I'm not about to do both that and this french homework

Lucy claimed day 1

Rondo counter claimed and everyone is saying “he’s trolling” and ignoring it. Which honestly is ridiculous we should be voting him out for counter claiming a Cleared town and a acting as if he’s lock town
Yikes.gif

I think that claim is 100% NAI but I don’t like someone in the suspect pool pushing someone else in the suspect pool for bad reasons.
Nah, that’s a solid reason to push someone you don’t counterclaim an IC, then act like an IC, without it being brought up
we've played before right? This isnt your first game with me in it is it?

I vaguely recall playing a few games with you, but your meta escapes me. The only concrete thing I remember is you faked a red check and getting voted off for it in Felt

Would it be rude to say I told you so? Since like I told you so

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:15 pm changed my mind overnight and dont think sig is mafia anymore. i think sabi/creature/jack contains at least 2.

think the game is being deepwolfed by probably exactly tutuu/one other player but im interested in just voting out a wolf today regardless of anything else

I could support this especially the sig isn’t mafia piece.

On my ISO list this phase is

Tuutuu
Wilgy
Jack
Creature
You (SPF)
Mac

And I’ll be doing a quick little reread of the people who are heavily the pushing the follow Allison legacy thoughts.

[VOTE: Tuutuu] aubergine

@Seanzie @Creature talk to be about SPF

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:20 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:17 pm @Seanzie @Creature talk to be about SPF
If there aren't at least two wolves in SPF/Mac/Bereft, the game makes no sense.

I will say I’m beginning to get very bad vibes from Mac, mainly after skimming rondo ISO, but The issue with that is I don’t think mafia Mac would be faking this level of angst about a dumpster fire of town. I think he’d be gleeful about it

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:12 pm I think I can believe that there's 1 between Jack/Creature.

But man, my gut is screaming that there's one between Sig/Tutuu.

Mainly because I acknowledge that the scenario where I'm wrong about Sig only exists if they are correct about Tutuu I think.

I promise I’d be playing a much sneakier game if I was mafia much sneakier like so sneaky oooo you don’t know how sneaky I’d have been

And Wilgy and Jacks avatars look to similar and I’ve come to the conclusion that I’ve been treating their posts as coming from the same person for at least half of this game oops

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:46 am @DrWilgy
@Seanzie
@falcon45ca
@Jackofhearts2005
@Creature
@sig

If you had a bullet who would you kill? If you had a vest, who would you shield?

I’d shoot tuutuu and vest you (Sig plays buddying attempt it was very effective)

Oof it’s like the entire mafia pool is on me (and Mac I guess I reverse that vest I pretended to give you smh)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:53 pm Getting massively tilted at my townreads being here, me making a point and then they all disappear without addressing it except Bereft.

Nah. I think I can cheer myself up by yeeting a wolf.
u couldnt find a wolf even if u were surrounded by nothing but wolves, kiddo. ud probably call urself a wolf
@staypositivefriend
@MacDougall
@falcon45ca
@Seanzie
@Porscha
@sig
@Sabiplz
@lucy
@Bereft

How can ya’ll read this as anything but a wolf taunting a townie?

I’m 100% on board I’ve been since she was wolfy trolling me

I’d also disagree that I’ve not put any work in I’ve just been consistently ignored or steamrolled which that + work equally I’m not really trying that hard to build cases

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:19 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:18 pm Oof it’s like the entire mafia pool is on me (and Mac I guess I reverse that vest I pretended to give you smh)
explain how you went from me being one of your main suspects to your top townread in 4 posts with no engagement

And Mac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:16 pm We've had town tying themselves in knots trying to solve this game and sig is just like sitting there absolutely giving no ounce of fuck about finding the mafia.

Okay imma push back here not since town isn’t doing that, buuut almost every post I’ve made has been directed at town not being dumb and I get ignored on them.

You have a handful or players sucking up the oxygen in the game and basically leading town (and maybe mafia around)

Or wait for it follow what a few people have been saying and realize town is being tied up by mafia who are leading them on bad wagon after bad wagon

Imma also throw this out sijce I’m here. Whoever was in Rondo town core is probably mafia since otherwise they’d not have put up with that IC thing for so long

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:23 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:16 pm We've had town tying themselves in knots trying to solve this game and sig is just like sitting there absolutely giving no ounce of fuck about finding the mafia.
Okay imma push back here not since town isn’t doing that, buuut almost every post I’ve made has been directed at town not being dumb and I get ignored on them.

You have a handful or players sucking up the oxygen in the game and basically leading town (and maybe mafia around)

Or wait for it follow what a few people have been saying and realize town is being tied up by mafia who are leading them on bad wagon after bad wagon
but I'm not mafia I'm just playing bad lol

Just vote Tuutuue she’s like 30% mafia at least

I was thinking more along the line of SPF or Bef though maybe not. I just don’t think town is being genuinely this self destructive on their own

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:23 pm sig who is the mafia and why

Ooof that’s a tough one

Tuutuu, Wilgy, creature are the most solid three

Perhaps you or Berefit tin foil is Mac, but I don’t think it’s all 3 or even 2. Though really out of you three it’s whoever been pushing town the wrong way the most.

That’s four so I guess the last two would be between Sabie or Jack, but I’ve got a solid civ read on Jack.

(I’m also not super invested at this moment so like maybe I’m totally wrong)

I’m confident Dennis and falcon are both town.

Porsche I had an early civ read then she kinda dropped off for me.

Also we’re down to 14 so that means 10 to 5 which will be 8-5 if we don’t get out mafia.

Now I haven’t caught up but this swing onto me is definitely mafia pushed. I think we were close to hiting someone and mafia is flooding thread

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