The Syndicate

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:01 pmFrist

Only mafia post first as they’re the most excited to play the game. It is known

Alsk I’m im ready to do a lot of fucking around buuuut not a lot of finding out so I’ll cover the humor for this game everyone agrees not to vote me off and I do 0% of the hunting

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:04 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:03 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:01 pmFrist
Only mafia post first as they’re the most excited to play the game. It is known
You got me WalterWhite.gif

1 down 2?ish more to go

Also [VOTE: roxy] aubergine

This is for the last game pocketing me like that so rude.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:06 pm Voted sig. I’m town.

Cya tomorrow.

I’m fully prepared to OMGUS all the way to the end game

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:05 pm Alsk I’m im ready to do a lot of fucking around buuuut not a lot of finding out so I’ll cover the humor for this game everyone agrees not to vote me off and I do 0% of the hunting
I wish to fulfill this exact role in my games one day

Ah young grasshopper you just have to be miss voted a lot for a few years than you can truly achieve greatness like me

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:25 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

serious cap time.

This is actually a really bad vote and look for creature. We’ve played enough over the years he’s getting an

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:51 pm Of this PL, I’ve only played with JackofHearts, Creature and Lucy before. I’ll probably sheep SPF’s reads until I decide she’s mafia.

lol I like you slight town read for making me chuckle

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm MacDougall (he/him) w
sig (he/him) w

Awww Mac thinks we’re winners together

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao
read the post again
Jesus christ I need help

I chuckled at this exchange, but if I decide Tin foil you later in the game I’ll come back to this

I’m liking Baud (though I might be liking Bereft?) and Porsche so far gut wise.

Enjoying Sean’s posts.

I’ll have a fairly good read on Dennis, Neon, and Kate by end of phase 1-2 I’d say.

Eyeing creature for his vote and dash especially since it was on me.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:17 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:25 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine
serious cap time.

This is actually a really bad vote and look for creature. We’ve played enough over the years he’s getting an
i think w/w

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
[VOTE: creature] aubergine

Am I missing something or can we vote for two people

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Alison (she/her) t
Baudib1 (he/him) t
Bereft (he/him) ?
Creature (he/him) ?
Dennis (he/him) lw
DrWilgy (he/him) .
falcon45ca (he/him) .
fingersplints (she/her) .
Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) .
Kate (she/her) ?
lucy (she/her) ?
MacDougall (he/him) w
Neon (she/her) lw
Porscha (she/her) t
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) t
Roxy (she/her) .
Seanzie (he/him or they/them) lt
sig (he/him) w
staypositivefriend (she/her) ?
tutuu (any) .
echo Hello there
run ride_or_die.bat
echo Mac is town
run pre_town_win.jav
echo Time to win
run antifoil.exe
echo lets get this bread

Reading Mac as town too early especially if you town core him is very dangerous 100% would not recommend

We just voted off falcon day 1 so we can’t do that again this game

Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:51 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:45 pm We just voted off falcon day 1 so we can’t do that again this game
Did you vote for me? Why or why not?

I don’t think I had subbed in by then actually, but it seemed like a very dumb reason to vote for you and you were civ. With people like you, me and Wilgy it’s common for us to get booted d1/2 for dumb stuff so I’m always against these types of ealry votes

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:10 am
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:25 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine
serious cap time.

This is actually a really bad vote and look for creature. We’ve played enough over the years he’s getting an
Why is this vote in particular so bad? I mean he didn't explain it at all, is there some history between you two that I don't know?

Not explaining his vote and swooping in just to cast a vote and leave is in itself odd.

Creature was very active back in the day when I was voted out early and always when I was civ. So any old school player that hasn’t been around for awhile that votes for me early is a red flag especially when they don’t contribute at all besides voting

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 am
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:17 pm I’ll have a fairly good read on Dennis, Neon, and Kate by end of phase 1-2 I’d say.
Does this mean you are good at reading us, or you're focusing us for the upcoming phases?

I just finished a game with you three so I think your meta is fresh in my mind. Especially yours post last game where imo you were very clearly a civ

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:11 am Hi yay shiny new game for me to bitch about too many posts to read

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:07 pm Also [VOTE: roxy] aubergine

This is for the last game pocketing me like that so rude.

I'm not sure you would even fit in my pocket. I am positive I was not rude but full of love and happiness.

Lol

Okay lemme find someone else to vote for I guess

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am Current leans

@sig wolf? (GTH Wolf) === Why did you try to undermine my Mac town read? Why are you defending Falcon? Why are you giving me a day 1 pass in a game about suspicion and deceit? What specifically do you like about Sean / Baud's post? When do you plan on doing any actual solving?
@staypositivefriend dunno (GT
(A) Kate > (B) Sig > (C) Lucy > (D)(One of Alison/Mac)

A - if kate flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
B - if Sig flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
C - if lucy flips wolf, anal- win the game

A - if kate flips town > kill counter wagon and so on till finding wolf and then kill most towny player day 4 if 3 consecutive non wolf hits (Hence D. Mac/Alison)
B - as above but +1 day
C - as above but +2 days

Spoiler: show
Or you can ignore all of this Im not your mum

First, I don’t like the level of tie in you’re attempting to do this early on, pre any flips. A lot of assumptions are being made and I find that this is more commonly a tactic used by mafia. Especially early game since it allows you to post a lot but say very little.

I alreayd answered the falcon question when talking to him, but basically he’s misvoted a lot and I don’t see much to see why he’s mafia. His posts (up to where I was which was around 10am today) are all pretty normal.

Mac is someone who we shouldn’t hardcore read town day 1 and I said why in my post. I’m not liking some of your questions especially this one since I answered it upfront? Seems like you’re just fishing for a reason to vote for me right now.

The other two were gut feels I like their playstyle so far.

I was against voting you day 1 since I wasn’t seeing the reasons and it seems like you’re misvoted alot.

Now my questions for you.

Why is it odd that I don’t want people to Town Read Mac for doing almost nothing, BUT, it’s also odd for me to not want to vote you out since “this is a game of deception”? You’re Basically making two totally counter arguments/point that don’t fit together at all. This + you questioning me about Mac is raising some flags

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:31 am What is the basis of this Kate wagon? I've seen nothing that's pinged me...am I blind?

I agree, she had only made one post and Allison seemed to think it was bad? Then people just sheeped that lead

Also I’ve got 7 pages to read I stopped at page 7 for me so about 385 new posts.

I’m still working so idk when I’ll have time to finish catching up.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1] Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:00 pm *hs* Yes?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:00 pm *hs*

Yes?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:35 pm Next question: should we let lucy determine the elim as the IC

I think we should settle it now before she gives reads so mafia can't support/oppose the idea based on her reads

No and this is a major red flag question

I’m definitely eyeing Allison and rondo right now the most.

Mac is a hazy read he’s playing a bit weird, but not ready to commit to a read either way.

Jack, falcon, Sean, Porsche, and Lucy, are all people I’d not want to vote off today.

I think Roxy looked very good with her responses and I see where she’s coming from. However, she just tricked me last game and civ reading Kate after she just said she hard protects teammates doesn’t mean a lot. They were just mafia together though so the odds are in our favor they’re not both mafia.

I’ll add for those not familiar Roxy is old school from the TS era where you need to be alive to win games as a civ. That’ll change her approach a bit and make her do some stuff that might come across as weird.

Stay positive and tuutuu are both posting but I’ve got zero reads on them which I don’t like

[VOTE: Allison] aubergine

I’m not feeling creature either, but I’m more hesitant on Allison.

For creature can someone explain the whole “His alignment will be clear” since I’ve played a fair amount with him in the past and this Wasn’t the meta.

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:52 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:44 pm They were just mafia together though so the odds are in our favor they’re not both mafia.
I mean, you could say this about anybody. There is the same chance that Roxy rolled mafia that you rolled mafia that Seanzie rolled mafia, and so on and so forth.

Something something statistical smart sounding. (I engaged in Tactical study prep during those classes so psh who knows) it sounds smart and right though so I’m sticking to it

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:53 pm i am hard vetoing alison lynch today

Lucy, assuming you’re IC it does mean your reads are genuine, but it’s usually town leading misvotes anyway so until you’ve got solid info like red checks I don’t think you should have an oversized say tbh.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:34 pm Off topic first-world problems rant with a happy ending
Spoiler: show
So I am trying to buy a house, and today I found out that the mortgage I was expecting to get no longer existed because of some stupid issue with terms changing in 2023 that my mortgage broker didn't realize until just now. I could still get a mortgage, but the terms were significantly worse, and I was bummed out all day and have been calling around to try to find something closer to the terms that I was going to get before because the difference was like $35k over 10 years, which is kinda significant to me. Anyways, after calling around and mostly getting terms that were slightly better than my original lender could do, but still way worse than what I've been budgeting for and planning on up until this morning, I eventually got terms that are actually quite a bit better than my original terms, and should help me build an extra $10k in equity over 10 years, which is pretty cool. If I wouldn't have spent so much time today figuring this out though, I wouldn't have gotten this, so in a way, I kinda made an extra $45k today. Was super stressful today.

Voting Sean for being able to get a house in this market :P

And I nominate him for mafia night kill

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:41 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:38 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

wolf claim
I’m down to vote Rondo independent of whatever he claimed (that I missed?) but I suppose we should let him clarify first.

It makes zero sense for Rondo to claim Oracle unless he’s fucking around or the real oracle. I’m inclined to think he’s messing around

What’s LHF

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:59 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:10 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:52 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:44 pm They were just mafia together though so the odds are in our favor they’re not both mafia.
I mean, you could say this about anybody. There is the same chance that Roxy rolled mafia that you rolled mafia that Seanzie rolled mafia, and so on and so forth.
Something something statistical smart sounding. (I engaged in Tactical study prep during those classes so psh who knows) it sounds smart and right though so I’m sticking to it
Man I just got schooled by something that sounded smart and also related to statistics!

I'm just a freshman so no statistics for me yet, but I'm just saying that the chances of two people rolling mafia two games in a row is the same chances as player A and player B rolling maf in game one and player C and player D in game 2. Every mafia combination has the same chances as another so we can't just say "I rolled mafia last game so I'm civ this game". Also there's the chance the roles weren't randomized in one the games but meh. I've wrote way too much on this topic anyways.

Well okay, buuuut I still think Roxy at least is civ. Roxy is an iffy read though

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:25 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:17 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am Current leans

@sig wolf? (GTH Wolf) === Why did you try to undermine my Mac town read? Why are you defending Falcon? Why are you giving me a day 1 pass in a game about suspicion and deceit? What specifically do you like about Sean / Baud's post? When do you plan on doing any actual solving?
@staypositivefriend dunno (GT
(A) Kate > (B) Sig > (C) Lucy > (D)(One of Alison/Mac)

A - if kate flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
B - if Sig flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
C - if lucy flips wolf, anal- win the game

A - if kate flips town > kill counter wagon and so on till finding wolf and then kill most towny player day 4 if 3 consecutive non wolf hits (Hence D. Mac/Alison)
B - as above but +1 day
C - as above but +2 days

Spoiler: show
Or you can ignore all of this Im not your mum

First, I don’t like the level of tie in you’re attempting to do this early on, pre any flips. A lot of assumptions are being made and I find that this is more commonly a tactic used by mafia. Especially early game since it allows you to post a lot but say very little.

I alreayd answered the falcon question when talking to him, but basically he’s misvoted a lot and I don’t see much to see why he’s mafia. His posts (up to where I was which was around 10am today) are all pretty normal.

Mac is someone who we shouldn’t hardcore read town day 1 and I said why in my post. I’m not liking some of your questions especially this one since I answered it upfront? Seems like you’re just fishing for a reason to vote for me right now.

The other two were gut feels I like their playstyle so far.

I was against voting you day 1 since I wasn’t seeing the reasons and it seems like you’re misvoted alot.

Now my questions for you.

Why is it odd that I don’t want people to Town Read Mac for doing almost nothing, BUT, it’s also odd for me to not want to vote you out since “this is a game of deception”? You’re Basically making two totally counter arguments/point that don’t fit together at all. This + you questioning me about Mac is raising some flags
Mac is usually pretty self resolving and someone I trust to get things right as town and someone I will tinfoil so its a win win to just town read him, either he is wolf and dies later because he is still around or he is town and he dies night 1 or wolves leave him and they die. Visavi my last wolf game where they tried to lover him and then play fast and loose and he ended up just locking the game up.

Yeah I frequently push multiple agendas as both alignments because its nice as wolf and as town I like to explore multiple game states at the same time so as falcon said, my reads tend to pivot a lot.

How do you feel about being an early pairing with creature? what do you think about the people that pushed you?

I don’t really see the teammate equity between creature and I. Also both of us are experienced enough mafia players that I doubt we’d create a connection/line that quickly.

I’ve got no real thoughts on the people who are pushing me. Creature looked the worse for his vote but generally they seem to be light mafia reads based off very little. I’m used to operating with some levels of suspicion so as long as I don’t get the most votes it’s whatever

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:05 pm LHF can be mafia too. i dont care if a person is LHF if the person is also wolfy

What’s LHF @MacDougall

Lazy heterosexual freakishness?

Laughing harping fresh!

Live, hope, fall

We demand answers

So the tie news isn’t great, having said that I think one of these three wagons are definitely mafia. We just have to consolidate a bit more on which it is

I like both the Alison and creature votes but would prefer Allison I think. We still have 24ish hours tjough so no rush

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:44 am Kate townslipped. She's been using the green text all game to represent stuff that's from an out-of-game perspective and that she wants to make sure people know is genuine and not speaking from her role PM. She included "it would be a bad move for town to vote me out" in green text because she was telling the truth about requesting a sub out and accidentally said too much in her "trust tell" font.

Roxy hasn't returned and is either totally checked out of the game or totally frozen mafia. We should get rid of her because we can't leave her around generating question marks forever.

There is literally zero logic behind this. You’re either letting your emotions get in the way due to the previous clash or you’re mafia trying to find an easy D1 vote.

We’re still only on Day 1 she posted last night and it’s legit only 2pm EST like people have jobs and can’t sit on their phone/laptop reading mafia during the work day.

I think Alison ane Creatuee both look bad. Creature is jumping from wagon to wagon with very little actual posts to back it up. While Alison keeps coming out with really bad takes that at the very least don’t seem pro civ. The big 3 I heavily dislike is her back and forth with Roxy, trying to let Lucy decide who we’re voting, and being so pro voting off lower posters.

I also think we’re seeing some attempts to shift focus by the mafia team away from the leading wagons.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:12 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
What are your reasons if I may?
You may not.

Joking!

1.Idr who argued it, but pointing out that wolf!Alison would definitely push slankers with agenda really resonated with me, coupled with other things that are reminiscent of scum!Alison (aggressive pushes that kinda seem to be more about decreasing thread morale than hunting, for example)

and

2. ties are fun, which is why I...
[VOTE: Baudib] aubergine

Normally I agree, but you’re aware ties are decided by mafia right?

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:57 pm Alison should never die d1, baudib is towny and he's playing towny, those wagons suck

jack
porscha
Roxy
neon

@MacDougall @Alison @staypositivefriend try to pick a name here and drop a small case on them and include your confidence, i'll read their iso's among other things

and today i want to choose the lynch because of how horrible the wagons are now, and because of the 5 mafia that exist

If you want to lead a lynch build a case on someone and convince us why they’re bad that simple.

You being cleared is meaningless when it comes to decision making

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:36 pm To all towns:
Fundamentally the stagnation on high activity poster wagons (me/Allison) and the noted lack of interest in the jack wagon even while strong town voices (me, Mac, Alison, Lucy) are making cases on him should be triggering your wolfdar.
If Jack were pure there is enough town coverage for wolves to slip in among us (there aren’t multiple wolves very often in me, Mac/Alison/Lucy) to push for a Jack yeet if he’s town.

glgl

You and Alison aren’t strong town voices this is a kind off disingenuous post

I also wouldn’t consider Mac a strong town voice the more I think about it. He isn’t cleared, he hasn’t led the charge of a flipped mafia member ect,

And while we know Lucy is a civ that doesn’t mean she’s right so is that a strong town voice?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:23 pm @sig
@Jackofhearts2005
@Roxy
@fingersplints
@falcon45ca

Alison flips town > who are the wolves on your wagon? Who are the town?

Alison flips wolf > who bussed? who is pure?

Well I’ll say it’s possible for us all to be civ unless mafia is also up to be voted off. However, I’d eye Falcon or Splints the most of us.

If she flips mafia then Myself and Jack are town for sure and I’d say roxy looks very good. But, given the game State I think it would depend on Indy player style whether they’d bus or even vote for a top wagon.

Realistically I’d say the players voting off major wagons should be eyed closely if Alison doesn’t flip mafia and we aren’t thinking the counter wagons are mafia either

I’m not a fan of this last minute CFD, imo they so rarely catch mafia and I don’t trust most of the people on the splints wagon.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:58 pm @RondoDimBuckle I am ignoring you because your questions, and choices confuse me. I don't trust you atm.

You’re on the same wagon as him though?

I do agree with this the level of hypothetical they want makes no sense

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:02 pm sig, why do you suspect Alison?

I’ve laid it out before but the highlights are

1. Exchange with Roxy didn’t feel genuine

2. She seems to be focusing more on just setting up votes vs finding mafia (this plays into all my points)

3. I agree with Jack on her meta

4. I don’t like that she’s so adamant that we follow your lead here. It seems like a really easy way for mafia to avoid blame for a misvote and if you weren’t/aren’t suspecting any mafia members it makes it extra helpful

5. I hate the idea of voting Roxy since she didn’t come back.

End of the day im a big believer in that the hardest phases for mafia are the first 1-2 everything is chaotic but they don’t have as much to go off of and many mafia players either slank to hard OR go out of their way to set up votes and try to lead the wagons I think Allison attempted this multiple times

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:04 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:58 pm I’m not a fan of this last minute CFD, imo they so rarely catch mafia and I don’t trust most of the people on the splints wagon.
Unpack this lack of trust you have towards each voter please. I wish to see the degree to which this is true.

Voters:
Lucy: she’s a cleared civ, but I haven’t agreed on a lot of reads + I hate the idea of following them for being cleared.

RondoDimBuckle: The vibes are off. I also don’t like the lebel of hypothetical they’re playing at. I recognize this could be a play style clash but it seems like they’re trying to people up.

For example. He asked me which out of 5 are the most bad then wanted me to build a case. Well out of five I gave an answer, but that doesn’t mean I think any are bad per say.

Stay positive: they’ve been super present but I have zero memory of any posts. That isn’t someone I’d want to CFD with

MacDougall: imma not trust you until phase 2-3

Bereft: same as Stay positive but I can’t even recall seeing to them post and I’ve been fairly active.

Now I’m not saying they’re all or even that any are mafia. I just don’t support the wagon enough to change my vote

I wanna be part of the town meme gang

Also on a totally different note before the Day ends. We should treat the town majority as being one shorter with “The World” card being present essentially can turn a player into a survivor style role

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