The Syndicate

Okay eww that looks horribly but shh. Also Sloonie/Matt looks really bad coming out of this. Golden isn't looking to good pushing Frog over IWAY. Neither does MM, he didn't vote for IWAY until necessary then suddenly a new CFD on Frog forms away from both, and MM switches.

I think we caught the scum team and they overextended themselves.

@Marco sorry I can't help you with that.

Okay so Day 1 votes.(I think)

Frog
5 votes
Soneji (13), Epignosis (14), Golden (15), Metalmarsh89 (16), Dyslexicon (17) 24%

Inawordyes
5 votes
MovingPictures07 (9), Silverwolf (10), Sloonei (18),Frog (19), ika (21) 24%

Metalmarsh89
4
sig (8), Marco (11), a2thezebra (12), DrWilgy (20) 19%

Psittacitform
1
Zexy (6) 5%

Sloonei
1
Long Con (2) 5%

Inawordyes (5) 5%
Zexy

Day 2

DrWilgy
2
Matt (9), Metalmarsh89 (18) 11%
Golden
1
DrWilgy (5) 6%
Inawordyes
6
MovingPictures07 (3), Soneji (10), sig (11), Marco (12), ika (15), Golden (16) 33%
sig
1
Inawordyes (14) 6%
Soneji
1
Dyslexicon (17) 6%
Zexy
1
a2thezebra (13) 6%

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
sig wrote:
ika wrote:Well..... not much has change about my thoughts

still willign to get sig/MP

Getting scared that we got your buddy? So y'all are trying to mudsling me.

I think Marco makes a good point, about sloonie. However, I don't like how quickly MM jumped on voting for matt
Why not?

Since I still think you're mafia. :P

Though I'm starting to think I might be a little bit tunnely.

Dyslexicon wrote:Alright, so let's get the rest of the- oh look, a man in a black hoody holding a scythe, that's odd, I wonder if-...

Good luck, town!

Nice playing with you all!

It was fun Dizzy hope to see you again soon!

ika wrote:Well..... not much has change about my thoughts

still willign to get sig/MP

Getting scared that we got your buddy? So y'all are trying to mudsling me.

I think Marco makes a good point, about sloonie. However, I don't like how quickly MM jumped on voting for matt

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Golden wrote:It hasn't escaped my attention that, as a rule, I trust the people on the IAWY wagon a lot more than I trust the ones on the Wilgy wagon
I agree.

I don't like that sig guy he seems weird this game.

nice NO U vote,

why not? I don't agree with it.

I built a case on MM and Zebra. Plus some for Ika and Sloonie. I'm not sheeping at all.

MM I think your math is off, but idk and I'm to tired to figure it out.

Could someone tell me the case on wilgy?

If IWAY flips civ I think we know the push on him yesterday was done to save a mafia member, so I'd look into those who started the CFD and then went after me for not wanting to.

If he does flip mafia I'd say those who have done soft defense of him are mafia, as well as one of the people who pushed him day 1 (probably Ika) Also maybe those trying to push the lynch in different directions today. I think yesterday MM was hesitant to vote for IWAY and instead we saw a push on Frog, if IWAY does flip mafia I think those who pushed Frog could be mafia. I think MM didn't vvote for IWAY right away since we had two scum members yesterday not just one. (Kind off like Turf War)

oh and one more point agaisnt IWAY he voted for Wilgy and I didn't like that vote or the reasoning for it. I also don't like how Matt jumped from the MM wagon onto that. I could see a MAtt/MM team.

Current mafia team thoughts.
Ika
MM
Matt
??? Maybe IWAY
IF IWAY is mafia
IWAY
MM/Matt
Ika
Zebra/matt

I normally wouldn't do this, but with no night posting I want to get my thoughts out in case I die. Also if we have a jailkeeper/doctor pleaseeeee protect me.

linki: Fine. But, I want him strung up!

Oh never mind there is only one vote on MM, I thought we had 3.

VOTE INAWORDYES

linki: Sorry Dizzy I hate CFDs :P

I'm going with IWAY tonight, if we are in a set up with a vig I suggest they shoot MM if not lets lynch him tomorrow.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
sig wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I missed kissing?

You've got a wife no kissing for you. (Besides I don't want a smelly ole sock to kiss me better) :P
Shhhhhhhh.

How dare you? I use fabric softener.

Hmmm I see econ brand or name brand.

And I guess if like ya know youmakemeasiteadmin I'll let you kiss me.

Dyslexicon wrote:
sig wrote:My knucklesssss are bleeding

Dizzzy I wanna cash in on my kiss now, make me feel better.

OOOOOKAY SO I'm not CFDing onto Soneji, I'm agaisnt CFDs and wouldn't mind seeing a IWAY lynch today.

I've reviewed him, golden, and Sloonie/Matt. I'd be fine with a IWAY or a Matt lynch today. I think we would get more information from an IWAY lynch. He had a full 36 hours to make posts, and he was in the hot seat, plus this took place over the entire day and not a last minute push away from another wagon. I still think MM and Ika are mafia.

I'd rather we lynch Mm over IWAY but if there is no chance of that I'm fine and would switch to IWAY. Regardless of how IWAY flips though we should lynch MM tomorrow.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I missed kissing?

You've got a wife no kissing for you. (Besides I don't want a smelly ole sock to kiss me better) :P

Will give some real thoughts in a minute.

My knucklesssss are bleeding

Dizzzy I wanna cash in on my kiss now, make me feel better.

Looking everything over, on the top people, going over cases ect. I'll have to go soon, but will be back around 9 PM Est

ika wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:
ika wrote:i dont care about doing isos. frog said onething and hes doing the opposite of that yes?

i also never said it excused me. its jsut who i am
So you agree with my point of view that suspecting MP and Sig for assuming the kill was a scum vig doesn't make sense? Do you really se MP being that careless as to make it his first thing to mention? I find that hard to believe.
no i disagree entirely. i can see any scum player doing such thing.

in turf i let out intentional knowlgage that sloonie was a don based on the failed arrest trying to get him killed, people then went on to suspect me for it. i have seen scums slip over even sillier things.

i have seen people litarly go "this is my second scum game"

so yes i think tey are scum for that slip

FYI I've played more then just two scum games. It wasn't a slip for a few reasons. One I'm not mafia, Two I used logic, 2/12 chances of a vig set up, that is 16.6%.
SO we are talking about less then a 20 percent chance of a vig. Compared to a mafia vig where there is a 66.6% chance that it was a mafia kill. Then we add in the possibility of the vig killing Silver/Epi not very likely compared to the mafia killing both.

The second portion was answering Matt's question about Wilgy. Sorry for not making it clear.

Matt wrote:
sig wrote:I'm switching back to MM since the Ika thing didn't take off. However, I look forward to him getting strung up and me being proven right soon. :P

VOTE METALMARSH89

If I had to pick between Golden, IWAY, and Sloonie. I'd need to pick from Sloonie/Matt and IWAY. The main issue I've got with voting for them is that Matt is with me on MM, this could be distancing or I could be wrong about one, but I'm unsure and need to think about it. I don't want to lynch IWAY until MM is gone.
Why you always after me siggy?

What do you think Wilgy?

To be fair, I was slightly after Sloonie first this game. However, I'm more confident in MM being bad then you.
I'm not sure, he has an excuse for being more inactive, but when he is here he doesn't seem to do much I dislike that. I want to keep and eye on him but won't be voting for him tonight.

I'm switching back to MM since the Ika thing didn't take off. However, I look forward to him getting strung up and me being proven right soon. :P

VOTE METALMARSH89

If I had to pick between Golden, IWAY, and Sloonie. I'd need to pick from Sloonie/Matt and IWAY. The main issue I've got with voting for them is that Matt is with me on MM, this could be distancing or I could be wrong about one, but I'm unsure and need to think about it. I don't want to lynch IWAY until MM is gone.

Dyslexicon wrote:Why so many votes on Golden and Sloonei, and so few on IAWY and Ika?

This except I'd say Ika and MM.

I can see both cases on them, but I think they are rather weak. I also think the IAWY case is weak, but would be fine if we split the votes between Ika, MM and even one of the other three. We've got a good chance to catch mafia if we lynch MM/Ika.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
sig wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
sig wrote:Either way vote for Ika he is such obvious mafia and I bet he killed Silver since she can read him, which is what I've been saying for awhile. Then we lynch MM two scum down.

If ika and I are both surely scum, why not leave your vote on me to keep me at 2 votes instead of putting each ika and I at 1 vote?
Oh that's a good point, but Ika is annoying me and you aren't so I wanna see him hang more right now. However, I'd be more then willing to switch to you before EOD.
You remind me of Matt in the GoC, and that guy was scum through and through.

Your insistence that I should switch to you is strange, is Ika a scum power role. :P

Golden what do you think of MM?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
sig wrote:Either way vote for Ika he is such obvious mafia and I bet he killed Silver since she can read him, which is what I've been saying for awhile. Then we lynch MM two scum down.

If ika and I are both surely scum, why not leave your vote on me to keep me at 2 votes instead of putting each ika and I at 1 vote?

Oh that's a good point, but Ika is annoying me and you aren't so I wanna see him hang more right now. However, I'd be more then willing to switch to you before EOD.

Either way vote for Ika he is such obvious mafia and I bet he killed Silver since she can read him, which is what I've been saying for awhile. Then we lynch MM two scum down.

And we've got until 10 tonight, can someone summarize the case on Golden? It seems like people think he is scummy for the frog thing right?

It isn't moot if your arguing I'm mafia so I discounted the vig.

If that is the case then your town play sucks, as town you don't hunt Power roles that is what lets the mafia win. Also why should I believe your meta I shouldn't use other sites as reference

looool nice NO U, your scummy as hell. And probably trying to get yourself lycnhed at this point.

VOTE IKA

He is acting really pingy, role hunting, and trying to set up bandwagons.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:VOTE MATT/SLOONEI

I hope you have more to say today. You managed to vote me, ask a few questions, and take your leave yesterday.

I hate when my scum links don't fall in line.

ika wrote:hey golden, why are you misrepresenting silvers stances? she never voted sonji becasue he didnt post anythign yet. she will go after low content lurkers day1 but not a non-poster, there is a distinct diffrence in that.

not only that but she has fully explained how she thinks MPs interactions, case, and entire play is jsut full of scum motivation.

not only that now, he has said that it is scum vig who did the kill and not considered it to be town vig. sig did the same, the only way this can be is that one of two thing are true

A) they are scum who know its scum vig
B) they are PR where a scum vig is exsiting

Bullshit, you come out of nowhere trying to get me lynched based on the fact I didn't see the a town vig? And that I didn't think town would kill either of them day 1. That is common sense and deductive reasoning. I also don't like those saying we should claim PR roles if we have any. That is painting a big ole target on anyone who claims especially if we are in a set up without a protector/doctor. THIS IS ROLE HUNTING and in a game with so few PRs it isn't something we want done.

ika wrote:MP case:

super defensive and cautious
Constantly discrediting me and silver
weak case on me to try to set me up
info knowledges slip about a scum vig not thinking about the town vig perspective

Sig case:

super zealous compared to how he was in turf
info knowledges slip about a scum vig not thinking about the town vig perspective

Wasn't an info knowledge slip, and actually no I'm not. I was just as zealous if not more so it was just all directed into staying alive and it worked for like five phases. So don't pull that crap when you've only ever played like two games with me, you've got no clue what my meta is even for TS much less for every other site I've played on.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Morning (to those of you even remotely in a similar time zone as me), folks! Afternoon/evening/whatever to the rest of you all.

This post is entirely with regards to my schedule. If you don't care about when I'll be here, skip it.

I've been even busier this morning than anticipated, so site time will inevitably have to wait until either (1) I get home tonight probably around 6:00PM Central (giving me T minus 3 hours until EoD) or (2) sometime in between meetings and such while I'm studying assuming I get bored and can actually justify taking a long break from studying. I'd say don't count on (2), but I know how I am, so it may still happen.

Apologies for the inconvenience! I'll be sure to answer whatever questions and provide input into whatever was posted last night/today as soon as I can.

Also, I wanted to show off my new sockish avatar as a tribute to Phife Dawg (RIP) to complement what I had in my signature; this is even much better.

I thought it was a Butterfly.

ika wrote:
sig wrote: Tell them this on downton they don't believe me. :P
But seriously, this is what I've been saying and I really dislike MM for pushing that Ika must be civ.
about what?

are you thinking im scum?

I've got you as a scum lean, however if MM or you were to flip scum then yeah I think the other is a teammate.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Marco wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Marco wrote:MetalMarsh89, you scum-read Golden, correct? And Golden, you scum-read MM, right?
Correct. I have a light scum-read on Golden.

I don't have anything to say to your suggestion that we are distancing and mafia teammates. It's not the first time I've heard it today, nor do I expect it to be the last.
Who else said it today? I must have missed it.
I know zebra said it here.

I thought sig also acknowledged the possibility, but I can't find it, so perhaps I'm mistaken there.

I think I said you and Sloonie? Can't recall atm.

When does the lynch end?

Dyslexicon wrote:
sig wrote:I like this list, I'd bump sloonie up to null though. I believe Dizzy is town.
I like how I'm town once I agree more with your reads lol.

Yes. :P

MovingPictures07 wrote:Soneji, are you still here? I want to talk about sig. I haven't fully digested your suspicion of him, so I'll take a look at that momentarily as well. Nonetheless, it'd be nice to have a succinct summary of your read on him and the intensity of that read.

I'm very hard to digest might give you heart burn.

The point on Sloonie re Frog was good, very weird for him to do. However, Frog flipped civ it would look worse for Sloonie if Frog had flipped mafia. I'll think on it though.

Dyslexicon wrote:Town: MP, Golden, Marco

Likely town: Zebra, sig, Zexy

Null: PSI (will he be replaced?)

All possible scum: IAWY, Ika, Wilgy, Soneji, MM, Sloonei

This is roughly where I'm at with my reads right now. Taking into consideration interactions and what other people say in my read on Sig. Zexy is not a strong town read, but I still feel it's more likely he is town. Obviously someone in the suspicion group is town.

I like this list, I'd bump sloonie up to null though. I believe Dizzy is town.

and I've responded to his question yet he still hasn't changed his vote.

I'm ready to vote for MM he is most likely mafia. His most recent behavior is very mafish and pingy. I think Dizzy addressed some of them as well as the Ika think, and the fact he has been bandwagoning on me all phase.

VOTE METALMARSH89

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
sig wrote:So first MM tries to get me lynched, then he was trying to say Ika is bad for the Silver kill after saying Ika is civ? It seems like a set up imo.
Do you think that my thought process is flawed or are you tunneling me because you wanted to lynch me yesterday?

If there is something wrong with either of the things you mentioned above, can you please explain why?

I'm tunneling on you since I wanted to lynch you yesterday and my opinion of you hasn't changed. WHat do you think of Sloonie/Matt? And golden wanting to lynch them.

I'll review you over later (I'm starting to sound like GRRM and his book deadlines) and see what I see :P

linki: Wow MM chill.

Ik Golden, why sweet as bro? Is that a NZ thing or supposed to be an american thing.

Since that sounds like West coast lingo and that is even worse then European! Philly slang or no slang at all.

linki: See MM lied only mafia lie hence he is mafia.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
sig wrote:weeee all caught up about to finish my dinner, and watching the great food truck race. Posts will be coming in shortly.
Oh good, so can you answer my question for you?

Linki: Are you even reading my posts sig? I said bollocks first. :P

Oh really.

okay then

MM Bollocks? Wth

Speak American not some European gibbly gloop. Or I'll Or Illl hmmm I'll build a WALL AROUND YOU. :P

Golden wrote:My answer - sloonei and marmot. I think they are on a team together, and I think marmot's case on sloonei was deliberate distancing.

Why are they on the same team?

Golden wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Golden: I didn't like his attitude wert me yesterday. He, like you, was very hesitant to vote for Sloonei, despite acknowledging that Sloonei was a decent candidate for Day 1. Also, responses like this just give me the shivers. An "Oh, of course I meant to do that " instead of an "Aye, good call there, I was wrong".
I wasn't wrong at all, MM. Your case on sloonei was shit, because you hadn't demonstrated any context. I don't have to do your research for you.
Bullshit.

If the case was shit, why did you concede that Sloonei was on your list of "players to lynch" as a result of the case?
Because you then added to the case, after I prompted you to do so. You were quite content to make a flawed case to begin with.

Having said that, then when you DID do the extra work, I was surprised to discover your case actually had merit. Doesn't change the fact that I do not agree that your initial case had merit. It was half-assed and flawed, and looked to me like a case that you were portraying just to get yourself off the bottom.

I don't know why you'd expect me to say "I was wrong" for forcing you to build a fuller case. I was quite satisfied with my work.
See Golden, I'm sorry if I'm wrong but this whole post just seems so fake. You only vocalized the distinction between the initial case and the "extra work" after MM called you out on contradicting yourself. If he hadn't have called you out, would that distinction ever have been made?
Thats bollocks. You were there at the time - you AGREED with me that MM's initial case was flawed. Remember this?

a2thezebra wrote:
Golden wrote:What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.
This also sums up my thoughts on that particular part of MM's case on Sloonei quite nicely.
The only reason I'm having to vocalize the distinction is because MM is acting as though it isn't there. Based on simply reading the thread, it's quite obvious that it was there all along. Why would I need to vocalise it before MM implied that I had agreed with his case all along?

Just go back and read the passage of the thread - I called him on his flaw in the initial case, he did more work, and THEN after he did it I agreed with his case. The two cannot be conflated, and I shouldn't have to point out the truth of it for it to be evidently true.

bollocks? Speak American Golden! Not your savage European tongue. :P

On a more serious note I agree however, I'd rather lynch MM then Sloonie/Matt. However, we still have over a day left so plenty of time for Matt to get acclimated to the thread, if I don't like his play I'd be more willing to lynch him. Though I had a better read on Sloonie then you, by the end of day 1. The beginning I was off about him, but think that might have just been a NO U /poor gut read.

Soneji wrote:
sig wrote: Soneji I didn't switch my vote since nobody else seemed to agree, and I said while it was happening I wanted to lynch MM.Why should I have wasted my vote? This seems like No U.
How were you to know it would be wasted? Maybe if you had shown more confidence in your read and got the ball rolling with a vote on me, people would have followed. Frog had only one vote when I placed my vote, same as the situation would have been with you. You didn't choose to do that, despite how very eager you were to get people to pay attention to your read on me and start a counterwagon. This lack of spine, jumping on me so quickly with vague reasoning and hypocrisy(not liking CFD's but wanting to get one started on me) is why I'm voting you. If you had had the courage of your conviction, I'd be less inclined to think you're mafia.

Maybe they would've maybe they wouldn't have. I was more confident on MM and I didn't want to unbalance the wagons when every vote counted. I think your just No Uing me and are mad I tried to lynch you, and I didn't even try that hard.

ika wrote:I'm on break but anyone who thinks I wouldn't kill silver n1 is being redoicolus.

Ask sonji who I wanted to arrest n1 of turf, he'll ask mp himself and ask who I wanted arrested, ask him
What I was constantly saying in the scum topic

Tell them this on downton they don't believe me. :P
But seriously, this is what I've been saying and I really dislike MM for pushing that Ika must be civ.

weeee all caught up about to finish my dinner, and watching the great food truck race. Posts will be coming in shortly.

We aren't lynching Golden or Zebra they are both town.

I'm curious about the Sloonie/Matt? case. BUT would still like to lynch MM. :P

Dyslexicon wrote:Who is going to keep me sane this game?

Oh baby I'll keep you sane.

for a very small fee. Super tiny you won't even notice it I'm sure. :P

Lots of posts are great when I refresh every ten minutes not so great when I'm gone for half the night

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm going to operate under the assumption that mafia made two nightkills last night (and one of them was a vig). Here's a couple reasons why they would do what they did.

1) The Mafia Vig was under pressure, and wanted to use their kill for fear of being lynched today and losing it.

2) The Mafia has a JoaT, and he/she might only be able to use one ability per night, thus using one last night. I don't know how this works, so could someone educate me on this? I don't see anything in the OP on this.

3) The Mafia thought that either/or Silverwolf and Epignosis were power roles, and wanted them both out pronto.

4) The Mafia thought that Silverwolf might be a good target for jailkeep/protect/bodyguard. I think this is true. Additionally, every scenario in play has an instance of one of these roles except for one. Thus, they utilized two nightkills last night to guarentee her death. Had she been protected from death, mafia could freely kill her tonight (since the protector person couldn't go back on consecutive nights).

JOAT can only use one power per night. So if it was a JOAT who killed someone they can't use another kill and couldn't have used their other powers.

Soneji I didn't switch my vote since nobody else seemed to agree, and I said while it was happening I wanted to lynch MM.Why should I have wasted my vote? This seems like No U.

Soneji wrote:
sig wrote:Ugh that Silver vs Golden vs MP vs Frog got annoying to read after awhile. :P

I'm leaning towards a Psittacitform or Zebra lynch today. I'll go over both of them tomorrow.
Zebra is playing different? Her filler posts to prove a point seemed really unlike her.
Psitt did something that pinged me which I can't recall atm.
Do you remember what pinged you about Psi?

sig wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Sig ISO and thoughts:

First @Sig:

-Why is my argument with Golden TvT to you, can you elaborate on this please?

-You said you don't think zexy is mafia. Elaborate please?

-Why do you not think sloonei is mafia but are null reading him after your interaction with him?

-What was townie about In a words entrance to the thread?

I notice sig makes a lot of comments like this without much explanation so I'm gonna wait for his answers to these questions before I give a read here.
Okay so I'm civ reading both you and Golden. I think your both trying to scum hunt and be genuine. However, your attempting this in different ways and butting heads. I notice this happens alot among the town "alphas" That is what is happening with you two. It looks like you've resolved your disagreement which is good since as I said I think it was TvT. I think it is more likely for scum to be laying low right now.
So you had a civ read on Silver here, yet you're willing to change up your opinion on her later based solely on one comment regarding allowing me to catch up? Your reasoning for doing so, that Silver wasn't willing to do so for IAWY, who unlike me wasn't around is weak. She had actually been pinged by IAWY's posts as she had explained earlier, if she hadn't been pinged by my two posts then she has every reason to give me time to catch up over IAWY. Part of your reasoning for trying to create a CFD on me is that I hadn't posted again after my first two posts, as if I was avoiding posting rather than continuing my read through.

Were you that confident that I am scum, IAWY is town?

sig wrote:Golden
MM
Psittacitform
Soneji
Sloonie

I'm not voting for Golden or Soneji today. If someone gives me a case on Sloonie and it is good I'd consider it, but won't build it myself. I could swing for MM, but again haven't seen a case on him. Psittacitform is the one I'd be most willing to vote for out of this group atm. However, I'm hesitant since he only has two posts. Though we've had 60 hours to make posts and him only making two is a little odd.

The other angle is Frog, could he be mafia trying to push us onto lurkers? Maybe, but I'm not confident in that.

I do really dislike Silver's read on Zebra/MP. I doubt MP is mafia and at the moment I'm thinking Zebra isn't either. However, if I have to pick between Zebra and MP I'd go for Zebra.

@Zebra who would you like to lynch?

linki: Zebra so your saying I should lynhc you since you're mafia attempting a gambit.
:P
I'm somewhat confused as to how that group of 5 was made as seemingly your main lynch choices. Why put Golden in there at all if you're not voting him, why would you claim you would not vote me without seeing what I might post(when I did, you immediately jumped on it for vague reasons)?

I was more confident that IAWY was town, plus I dislike all CFDs, though if we were to CFD I'd have wanted to be in control of it since then I'd have known it wasn't scum lead.

I listed every player who had 1 or 2 votes, notice I also said who among them I wouldn't vote for.
After rereading some stuff and hearing what marco thinks of you, I'd rather not lynch you. MM is still my top mafia read, however I'm going to reread the Frog lynch and see. In theory the CFD could've been done to save a teammate or teammates, espacilly if my MM/IAWY theory is right. I highly doubt it is, but if it was then I'd say we have a Golden/MM/IAWY/Ika team.

Golden wrote:
sig wrote:We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.
C is interesting. C4 says 'Town vigiliante' but F1 says 'town even night vigilante' so I assumed they were different, but I can't see any clarification in the role descriptions.

Town even night vigilante refers to a vig who can only kill on even nights. So if we have two kills tomorrow we can rule out almost all of the possible worlds, we would still need to keep F since it could've been the mafia JOAT (jack of all trades)
If we are just looking at odds it is more likely that we have a 1 shot mafia vig, but I think it will be obvious soon just from NKs

ika wrote:
Marco wrote:
But why did you immediately assume this was a 1-shot mafia vigilante?
hes scum, help me lynch him

Do you mean me? I think I already explained this. Process of elimination wise it is much more likely that it's a mafia role, plus when I first started speculating I didn't notice C, I only saw the even night vig. Though even with a regular vig the chances of it being a vig shot on Epi/Silver is very small. I don't think anyone playing would've killed Silver or Epi. Considering he had just subbed in, there were many other players who looked more mafiaish and he is a strong town player. This means nobody from TS would've killed him and I doubt most the other new players would kill someone who had just subbed in.

So first MM tries to get me lynched, then he was trying to say Ika is bad for the Silver kill after saying Ika is civ? It seems like a set up imo.

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