The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:@Hosts Was Glorfindel's post deleted for an in game reason?
Yes. Glorfindel is silenced. He posted before he read his PM.

Okay thank you.

@Hosts Was Glorfindel's post deleted for an in game reason?

Okay, but I'm not seeing that when I look at his in topic posts? Which is what I was doing to figure out last post.

Having said that nah I don't think the Riddler had anything to do with the lack of killing that is to big of a guess, since we have no idea what he does.

linki: I'm not sure? I honestly can't recall him posting, but it is there and he was online. If he was silenced would they have deleted his post?

Enrique wrote:
Dom wrote:I think this was a good night!
Glorfindel wrote:
sig wrote:Lol Gordon's message is great. I'm glad Harvey got Zebra, but know we don't know who she is.

No mafia night kill though?

Hosts can a blocker block the mafias nightkill?
The Riddler?
This was my thought after reading the night post as well.

Also, I still can't believe Alex wants to be replaced despite having more than 200 plus posts in the thread.
Wait

when did Glorfindel say this?

I don't see it in his ISO unless he said it awhile ago?

eke I see you right know what do you think?

Scratch that about Equivoacte just did something super smart and checked last visit time. He hasn't been on since the 17th.

Glorfindel however was on tonight yet didn't post.

Bass is online right know.

Floyd was online Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:45 am, yet his last post was on the 21.

ekeknat last post was on the 20 yet he has also been on today, in fact he was just on.

I don't know what to think of the last two at all one might have been silenced yet I'm not sure why if neither where silenced why not make a post when they logged on?

Also I'm usually not a fan of time checking people but figured why not for almost no posters. and Glorfindel since I recall seeing him online yet no new posts.

Was there no silence again day 2? I'm trying to figure this out. Do we just have a good amount of no shows or what? Bass and Equivocate didn't post at all yesterday.

Floyd had one post, Glorfindel no posts today but I recall one last night phase. Thoughts on these players?

MovingPictures07 wrote:He's number one!

Awww thanks MP I am pretty great aren't I

Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
sig wrote:If Enrique is mafia he isn't on Nero's team though I don't think he is mafia.
Took you half an hour to forget.
Sig's been forgetful all game. Very noticeable.

There is a possibility he is mafia even if I don't think he is right know enough people seem to believe this. I wouldn't say I've been very forgetful this game.

@DH distancing?

So lets see
1. Player is forced to vote for me (MP)
2. One player who voted for me tried to save Nero and was killed by the vigi (Zebra)
3. The third is Enrique who is tunneling and could be mafia.

linki: So maybe there is but why are you SO sure Freeze didn't target you last night also?

DharmaHelper wrote:
sig wrote:
Enrique wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm sure Enrique is about to bless us with a huge "sig is bad" post that he may or may not go back on two and a half hours before EoD
He is my number one suspect, but I'm considering an MP vote as well. I think the Mr. Freeze plan caught him red handed.
Caught who red handed? And wouldn't it be blue handed?

I still have a baddie gut read on DH his Nero interaction was just off to me.
What Nero interaction? The part where I said "Lets lynch Nero" or what.

You didn't vote for him then after his lynch pointed out how you could have tried to get me lynched instead of nero yet you didn't along with what Mac said it was all very odd.

linki: I can't run until 2032 or 2036 but when I do run make sure to vote for me okay?

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm sure Enrique is about to bless us with a huge "sig is bad" post that he may or may not go back on two and a half hours before EoD
He is my number one suspect, but I'm considering an MP vote as well. I think the Mr. Freeze plan caught him red handed.
Why should we assume MP, and not you or zebra, was the target of Mr Freeze?
It wasn't me because the idea of me being teammates with Nero is still as ridiculous and unfounded as it was when Matt first brought it up... no wait, even more. I did also come up with the plan for Mr. Freeze to do this in the first place.

So?

MovingPictures07 wrote:What's this about Mr. Freeze?

sig my number one suspect.

Didn't I just say this smh MP caught up on who you are pretending to be.

MacDougall wrote:My number one suspect was killed so I have to start over. Lame.

What about DH?

Enrique wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm sure Enrique is about to bless us with a huge "sig is bad" post that he may or may not go back on two and a half hours before EoD
He is my number one suspect, but I'm considering an MP vote as well. I think the Mr. Freeze plan caught him red handed.

Caught who red handed? And wouldn't it be blue handed?

I still have a baddie gut read on DH his Nero interaction was just off to me.

The old Power Puff Girls show is really good.

The person killed by the vig who tried to save Nero by getting me lynched = Enrique tunneling more. Like I said give me a case Enrique A real one stop using shit from day 0/1 which was such a small part of my overall post count.

Enrique listen, turn around 180 degrees. There is a little light from that huge tunnel you entered day 0 start walking out of the tunnel and back into the real world okay?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
sig wrote:I'd be down for an MP lynch right know, just to show you he won't flip as who he is trying to pretend he is.

link: I forgot to RIP zebra hope to play with you again. even though I didn't get to make any Hannibal Lector jokes this game.
Who am I pretending to be, Mr. number one suspect?

Lets see when it comes up.

MovingPictures07
3
DharmaHelper (13), Dom (15), Typhoony (22) 9%

One of these three are Penguin or MP is crazy. Thoughts?

I'd be down for an MP lynch right know, just to show you he won't flip as who he is trying to pretend he is.

link: I forgot to RIP zebra hope to play with you again. even though I didn't get to make any Hannibal Lector jokes this game.

First post addressing the Wilgy thing, and no longer thinking this makes me mafia.

MovingPictures07 wrote:sig, I also wanted to say I apologize if I got too heated when I voted for you yesterday; I was getting increasingly frustrated and knew I'd probably have little time before EoD, and I was very pinged by you in the moment, so I voted for you. I don't regret my vote, but I didn't really have any solid baddie read on anyone else.

Second this one is slightly different here he says he thinks Nero is mafia and not me as an attempt to save nero wouldn't result in lynching me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Based on the momentum of the thread, I don't think someone who wanted to save Nero was going to vote for sig. I think Matt was a much more likely scapegoat, at least until you changed your mind, Enrique. That might have got Nero's teammates panicking, so I'd say they'd be more likely to bus after you did a 180 and kept harping on it.

It's hard to speculate though; it depends on the person. Looking at interactions between Nero and every player would be more illuminating, I think.

Important part is underlined said he didn't have an open mind about my lynch and just got caught up in the moment. So he basically admitted to being wrong and not having an open mind yet this is his reason for lynching me again. HE HAS ANTI TOWN SENTIMENT IF HE IS REALLY TRYING TO LYNCH ME THIS WILL HURT THE TOWN.

It is so important I'll bold underline and caps it. :P

MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:Yippee! We caught a mafia. Good work Matt. Nero, you are a delightful individual and I hope you will play with us some more. Don't let this discourage you.

Thanks to the hosts for cutting some hours out of the night to get us back to a more reasonable hour for the posts!

linki MP, how are people being closed minded?
People are inevitably being closed-minded this game for multiple reasons: (1) due to the setup, in which roughly half of the players have potentially no reason to conventionally baddie hunt; (2) due to the ridiculously high volume of posting, with the actual content of which mostly comprising strenuous back and forths; and (3) players who do not have adequate time to do anything more than intently read and analyze the thread will inevitably make uninformed decisions, and in a game of this magnitude, thus will never be able to properly consider even half of the living players with proper weight of suspicion.

Regarding (3), one that does not have sufficient time cannot properly examine 29 other players, especially in this game due to (2). That means that certain players will be subjected to the microscope more than other players; it's often an inevitable side effect of games this large, as opposed to Heists where it's very difficult to stay out of the spotlight if the town is actively playing the game. Conversely, it also means that town cannot properly evaluate everyone without pouring ridiculous amounts of effort into trying to spend equal time analyzing every player and it just cannot happen for most people playing this game. Therefore, take Dom for example, he can't stop mentioning my name. Ever since I made one post way back on Day 0 (was it? or was it technically Day 1 by that point?) with my first gut read of the game: him. I added a joke after it saying I can't read him so that it means everyone should lynch him instead. It was a joke. Since then, he pressed me and asked the thread multiple times to talk about how I was "setting him up" or "hedging". He won't even listen to my explanations because he's already made up his mind that I was hedging, even though it's absurd that anyone would later use "I'm never wrong about so and so" clearly stated in joke format as a reason to legitimately change one's mind about that player. Dom is far from the only player who is unwilling to actually listen to the player they are suspecting. Hell, even I did it with sig; I got too caught up in the moment and wasn't giving him the chance. Townies should always stay skeptical, yes, but they need to try to actually connect with and understand where the person they're suspecting is coming from, and should always be open to changing their mind. I consistently get the impression that the majority of players in this game aren't willing to do that. That's fine. It's not easy to do, especially when the game's setup has so many potentially anti-town roles in it.

But that's why I feel this way.

@MP the Wilgy thing which you apologized for and said was an over reaction on your part? That you didn't keep an open mind on and wouldn't have voted for me if you hadn't rushed into things that Wilgy thing? So was that post a lie or did you just forget about that post?

juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:sig is my number one suspect.
Can you just do a quick bullet point list on why sig? Maybe I missed it in this wacky night but all the conversation I saw was about TH, Enrique, Zebra and Matt.

juliets there is no "case" agaisnt me which is why neither MP or Enrique are giving you bullet points for all the bad things I've done. Zebra pushed my lynch over Neroa mafia member, and if MP is being serious I know exactly what he is doing and it isn't cool.

MacDougall wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:sig is my number one suspect.
Number 1 Harvey Bullock suspect? Haha.

I'm not Harvey but I am pro-town.

Enrique wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:sig is my number one suspect.

Right know I'm mainly looking at DH, his interaction with Nero didn't look good at all. After him maybe MP.

@Golden why Enrique over DH/MP?

linki: I seem to remember you saying you'd help him fine Renee I'm curious how'd you do this without outing a good townie role.

If Enrique is mafia he isn't on Nero's team though I don't think he is mafia.

linkI: Thanks DH, I was trying to think of something better but couldn't, it was pretty chill of me :P

linki 2: Glorfindel I'm thinking Freeze, another blocking role would be weird. Glorfindel what do you think of Dh, MP, and Enrique?

linki 3: Go ahead MP lets see a case or is it the he mentioned Wilgy again, If so that is kinda boring find a new one please.

Also stop acting so chilly I thought we were friends.

I'll be done with ice puns okay? maybe or maybe not.

Enrique wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Lol well that saves us lynching her at least.

No Mafia kill though?
Mr. Freeze did us a solid

That is cool.
Yeah looks like he did, are you Mr.Freeze?

Lol Gordon's message is great. I'm glad Harvey got Zebra, but know we don't know who she is.

No mafia night kill though?

Hosts can a blocker block the mafias nightkill?

My childhood favorite was Martinson Batman, by far the best.

DharmaHelper wrote:Tim Burton's Batman could kick Chris Nolan's Batman's ass.

Which is the campy one? He is my favorite Batman

Golden wrote:
sig wrote:
Golden wrote:
sig wrote:Are you all drunk and or high?
Not all of us. Juliets is our sober driver.
What about me?
Drunk and or high

Me never, I meant you should let me drive.....who needs a license. right?

Can I be Iron man?

If I die lynch Zebra

Golden wrote:
sig wrote:Are you all drunk and or high?
Not all of us. Juliets is our sober driver.

What about me?

DharmaHelper wrote:I imagine this must be what cocaine is like.

Wise words DH wise words.

Are you all drunk and or high?

Enrique wrote:Turnip Head I get it now.

Well played but now u gotta go

Is it just the why do we fall thing or do you have other reasons to suspect TH?

Wait could some please explain to me what is going on. I've reread this whole portion and am still lost?

Enrique thought TH was Alfrd and he isn't I've got that. BUT Matt is saying TH/Enrique are teammates and Enrique is saying Matt/TH are teammates or no?

Enrique wrote:
sig, there is absolutely no civvie reason to misguide the thread like that. He just went from confirmed civ in my eyes to this smiley ->

Enrique was this at me?

I misread your latest view on MP, you said anti-town sorry about that.

linki: Enrique what do you mean? How did I misguide the thread.

Turnip Head wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:But you never asked it randomly. You always asked it when a significant turn was taken.
Well you see, with a joke, timing is everything.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey sig, whenever you show up, I just remembered something I meant to ask you earlier that I saw when I was catching up. You asked Golden for your opinion on me during Day 2 on two nonconsecutive occasions, as well as other players (from what I recall), after I voted for you. What do you think of me, exactly, and why do you put so much stock in others' opinions of me, particularly Golden?

Hi MP I trust Golden right know and he has repeatedly said he thought you where a civ so I was wondering if his opinion had changed. I did ask other players, I was thinking about lynching you and was wondering what other people thought or if it was just me being paranoid since you voted for me, I also wanted to see if my lynch of you could gain enough to steam to get you lynched over me. However, it was mainly to see if I was just being tunnely or if I had legitimate reasons/case.

linki: So what Enrique you say TH is pretending to be Alfred? How does that change your view of him?

linki 2: To many

Enrique wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think sprityo deserves a looksee tomorrow
I think sabie does. + ofc my bff sig

So I don't see that much on the DH teammate thing, the brief interaction is a ping, as is the fact he is know saying he was pushing Nero over me while he didn't actually vote for Nero nor did he really push him that much. However, that isn't much to go on. His reaction to SVS vote was more based on their past interactions imo.

I really like Mac's case on Zebra. I'll also add that throughout the day especially after Nero was gaining steam she tried to push people to lynch me instead of him.

Enrique mentioning Mr.Freeze is interesting.

Lol why are we talking about Epi's gameplay?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I've been pro-town as well but me not wanting to go after a newcomer (which Mac understandably thinks is unusual for me, though it isn't) does look purdy bad after their flip.
We can be pro-town buddies with terrible-looking d2 votes together then.
I think our votes look fine actually, and I'm still going to be voting for sig tomorrow if no one better comes up. Mac's teammate connection of me and Nero had little to do with my vote and more to do with how waffly we were with each other.
That's a good point.

In fact, if sig was Nero's teammate, that would make a lot of his comments yesterday sensible.

Lol okay, So Zebra who tried to get everyone not to vote for Nero but for me instead, will most likely be bandwagoning me again, and you think that is a good point? After voting for me yesterday during a freakout and then apologizing saying you'd be more open minded about me and regretted your vote, then you're agreeing with a player who has been close minded about me all game? Is Zebra your teammate MP?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I have a prediction:

I will receive the most votes d3. Then zebra will receive the most votes d4. Then the town will mourn because both phases will have been wasting our time.

If you all are truly open-minded, I think you'll lynch MM tomorrow instead.
What about sig?
He'll somehow get away until d6, then he'll die.

I don't understand this are you threatening to NK me or

This whole Enrique vs people thing is getting a little old imo :P
Right know I'm thinking he is wrong about me being anti town, however I don't think he is mafia I wouldn't vote for him tomorrow.

Enrique wrote:if i get lynched today y'all are honestly dumber than the civvies were back then in tree mafia.

i didnt get anything in the thread, matt. i couldve got you lynched and nothing wouldve happened but instead i ruined the whole fucking game for placing any faith in you. seriously you are a horrible civvie matt i dont even care at this point

linki- yup this is the zebra i hosted in of montreal.

hmm is that at me to since I subbed in to Tree mafia calling me stupid is kinda mean since I came in with such an epic post.

OOO Haven't gotten to it but I finally understand what Enrique saw lol that makes me feel much better about him. Nevermind I don't understand this at all. Never mind I just thought TH was making a stupid quote.

So let me get this right Enrique thought TH was Alfred and Matt was Batman which is why he was defending Matt. However, Enrique know thinks TH is a baddie pretending to be Alfred? Or does Zebra think that and Enrique is just confused? Can someone help me here?

ugh so much to catch up on. Why couldn't y'all stop posting after I went to bed last night?

Just popping in to vote and all that good stuff I'll be going to Arkham Asylum.

I like Macs case on Zebra and I'd also like to point out how much more Zebra tried to stop people from lynching nero over me, and pushed my lynch over Nero. I didn't think much of this when I thought Nero would flip third party, however seeing that he flipped mafia I think this looks bad for Zebra.

People where asking about two new players on a team, keep in mind if one of the new players got recruited as a cop that could happen. So if there is a second newbie on the team I'd say they are a flipped cop. This wouldn't be the case right know since tonight the other cop will get recruited, which is something to be on the lookout for.

linki: Don't worry MP since you aren't planning to lynch me I don't think your mafia

Though on a serious note right know I'd rather lynch Zebra then MP I see a bigger connection there and I trust Golden who still thinks MP is townie so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Well I'm surprised I thought he was the Joker, kinda bummed he wasn't, but this is still very good.

This makes Matt looks good I'd say the same for Golden.

I'll be going to bed soon and will have more to say later.

@Mac I'm guessing that must be it.

linki: Nevermind.

For the record I think Nero will flip third party not mafia. Tomorrow I suggest we all look closely at Enrique I think there is a good chance he is mafia.

Enrique wrote:sig you're literally asking me to out a civvie how am i the scummy one

As long as there's ambiguity I doubt he'll be nightkilled.

I'm asking you to give real reasoning, you suddenly switch your views, tell everyone they are scummy if they have or then do vote for Enrique then paint a big KILLL MATT in the thread. How is that not scummy? Plus he still thinks your a baddie.

Also if Zebra agrees with me that means I'm onto something.

I was going to vote for Matt, but I really see no point and am curious as to how Nero will flip so I'll go with him.

Wow nice lol. I know I tried to lynch him, but if you do what i said your bad! I'm not going to tell you why but he is super important. Why are you target painting Matt? Oh wait it wouldn't be good for the thread. okay riiight you mean it wouldn't be good for you? Your hiding something and that is scummy.

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