The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote:How did I get here? This isn't my porn!

G-Man wrote:Been fighting with the numbers this afternoon. I have plenty more work to do, so I had to speed-read the post histories instead of a thorough ISO for everyone. I'll go more in-depth tomorrow during night phase should I survive the lynch poll.

Here's one sentence about everyone left on my list:

sig:
He wasn't afraid to mix it up with a few people, question, and prod, all of which are admirable even though he is a tricksy Hobbit.
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Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think we need to agree on a lynch as a group so we can overcome this abysmal no lynch wagon. I could lynch Vompatti.

Ok, I'm fine with this. He's a worse look to you than Polo? Come is a ball of unraveled yarn being sold at full price on the shelf. Polo is a can of albacore tuna being sold as yellowfin. To me anyway.

sig wrote:Again Wilgy your logic makes no sense and seeing how that was the main scenario talking about me that is the one I mentioned. When I'm mafia it is almost impossible to connect me to my teammates I'd never do something so blatant. I'm curious as to why you're pushing this agenda Wilgy, I suspect you and SVS are mafia.

Also you're not the cop since I know both you and JJJ aren't cops. There is no world were either of you are cops, I do however know what JJJ is doing with saying I was his peek. Or a random villager got a random peek which does happen in some games. Either way JJJ isn't the cop.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Oh yeah, that's right. Nevermind.

You have experience with peeks either way; I'm confident you understand the value of giving them as a townie too.

I also understand the value of the peek game as a baddie. Learned it the hard way.

You wanna learn it too JJJ?

Until today I was the only one to bother. If nobody wants to give me cover then I'll just get killed anyway.

JJJ the fake cop thing is going a wee bit to far. :P


It is clear JJJ is providing cover for the real cop whoever he is, I'm not sure if Wilgy is doing the same or not.

I will most likely vote for Wilgy or SVS today.

Best case scenario is they're both civs, and neither is cop tbh. If one is the cop, that makes the doctor's job that much harder. Yet who the hell knows if we can believe you or INH are actually civ checks until JJJ and Wilgy are lynched?

See, fake claims can be useful..but they can also be quite a clusterfox. I would strongly suggest curtailing the peeks. Anyone does that after this is going to look very fishy to me, even if they ARE the real cop. Them's the breaks

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Oh yeah, that's right. Nevermind.

You have experience with peeks either way; I'm confident you understand the value of giving them as a townie too.

I also understand the value of the peek game as a baddie. Learned it the hard way.

You wanna learn it too JJJ?

Until today I was the only one to bother. If nobody wants to give me cover then I'll just get killed anyway.

Scotty wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Thank you for answering, it seemed genuine. I will move my vote to Vompatti for now. I am not usually one to move my vote around like this. But your response was pleasantly surprising.

Day 1 #8

Do you think JJJ is telling the truth about dog? What's your feeling on JJJ?
Is there anything particularly surprising about sig's response?

I don't know what I missed about "dog", but I have no clue what you're talking about. I mean, I have literally searched for the word "dog" and only see it in your post when you say JJJ peeked dog.

As for my feelings on JJJ. I am not paying too much attention to his claims. I don't think we can put too much weight on it yet. Players claim things all the time (whether it be about themselves or others) that may or may not be true. I'm not too concerned. It could go like this:
1. he is the cop. Yay, he can help us find mafia.
2. he is not the cop, but the real cop is too scared to come forth b/c he might get nightkilled so we keep on thinking he's the cop
3. he's not the cop, but the real cop calls him out on it (but who's to say that the player who calls him out on it is the real cop. maybe the player who calls him out is just concerned that JJJ IS the real cop and is afraid the mafia will kill him, so he claims to be cop as a distraction to the mafia)
4. Maybe there is no damn cop in this game so we all go on thinking JJJ must be the cop.
There is way too much speculation that can happen on this subject, so I say

sig's response was calm and collected. this makes me think he is civ.

@ sig - I am not sure who else I am considering. I think it will partly depend on scotty's response to this post

Lol "sig" always corrects on my phone to "dog" and these days I have a 40% chance to miss the autocorrect. And sometimes I just leave it because I like dogs.

I agree that those are the scenarios for JJJ, but which of 1-4 do you believe JJJ is doing?

As for sig...I keep going back to what he said in a past game: if he appears civ, he is probably bad, so lynch him. When he is obviously bad, he's probably good.

I don't know how that translates to this game, but I'm not pushing it since I'm still playing along with the scenario that JJJ is in fact the cop.

DrWilgy wrote:GTH:
Vompatti and Eloh if JJJ is good. SVS is good. Rabbit bad if JJJ is bad. Sig is bad if Eloh is good. I suppose that would also mean that Rabbit JJJ and Sig could be on a team.

Gman is slightly bad... His scumdoodlin is not reliant on other players yo.

@Sig, how about 2 full grown roosters?

@Rabbit, who's on your team?

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:3J's posts are just getting kind of ridiculous. He says that he wants to encourage conversation, but he tries to shut down anything that doesn't vibe with his view point.

Disagreement is not the same as shutting down. I have been completely successful in getting this game moving thankyouverymuch.

You know, this got me thinking- how do day 1 conversations take off? Someone making a bold statement? Someone disagreeing with principles? It always just seems to flow organically, but I'm never sure of how or why.

This isn't anything new, but it's very intriguing to me. In so many other sites and venues the day 1 is literally random. Like, literally in the sense that in a group, most the time people will vote for someone based on a dream they had, or not liking the name of a person, or what have you. But this site especially has a weird way of dogpiling on someone that has a certain air if suspicion for doing something out of the ordinary. It's always amazing to me that votes on the first day are so justified here. I can't recall the last time I went back to day 1 conversations to get a confirmation of a tonal read on someone. Only to look at votes and who voted for whom, and when.

"Getting the game moving" does not necessarily translate to civ behavior, mind you. I would hope everyone just likes to talk about things having to do with the game. Hell, I have no filter so I just talk about whatever's goin on in my head, regardless of my alignment. Gets me into trouble a lot, but whatever. Until we get to a day 1 flip, I don't think the game has taken off.

Blah blah blah shut up Scotty.

Also this is my 19th post, which is a good number.

rabbit8 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

sig wrote:

sig wrote:@HOST why is there no rule number 3?

Also I'd like to bring attention to this.

5. The Mafia team can only interact in BTSC during the Night phase.

I'm not sure how much this helps us, I know the last game we had with this was the Scrimmag, I was mafia and it did make things more hectic and we had much less planning. However, it also made the links less clear. So I think we should keep in mind the mafia doesn't have day chat.

Any thoughts on this?

Rule number 4 not 3.

This is the only thing to get my attention so far,and as pings go, it's *meh*, so just saying it to say it, basically. It actually could be making me think sig is civ more so than the other way around, but it is hard to say this early. It just stuck out to me.

Sig has obviously read the rules including the on famous rule 10,

10. >>>Players are advised not to end any phase throughout their game with 4, 9, 13 written posts or multiples of those numbers.<<<

There isn't a rule 9, either. This seemed like saying something for the sake of being seen having something to say, BUT like I said, *meh*. This seems like a thread full of people playing it safe so far. So I am liking risk taking more than not.

I was not expecting to be playing, and have a crapton of stuff to do tonight (which is why I stole Ricos thunder and self announced, I only had a limited time to post). Toodles, citizens & Mafioso.

Linki, I hate no lynch. Grrr.

You said something to say something, not unlike sig may have done. Only your something was a quasi accusation with a CYA meh to say "not really". Then you reiterated the point in another say something to say something accusation, clarified with a "but like I said..."

I can't tell if you're accusing Sig or saying hes a civ. It makes your post read ambiguous, which seemed purposeful. Casting shade on Sig while saying you think he's a civ, only to defend with, I was poking to see if someone would accuse sig of trivia? Classic. Say something then hide behind the old, wanted to see what you would do routine.

You threw out something looking for a response. Only if you would have just waited for someone to go after Sig for trivia before you defended with it would have looked more civvie. Throwing out the Sig is always lynched for this behavior only when you're called out on it looks bad, IMO.

Elohcin wrote:

sig wrote:

No it didn't alarm me in that sense, I just found it odd that you'd include me with the other names. I guess I did do well in the Scrimmage with no BTSC, but I still found it pingy, but also flattering so thanks.....I think?

Well, I do think you're a good player. Please tell me why I should move my vote off of you an onto someone else. And, who should that someone else be? I am thinking Vompatti. His craziness this game doesn't seem to follow his norm. What do you think? It's almost as he is half crazy, half trying. Which is odd to me.

rabbit8 wrote:
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@ Sig: Why is it odd to lump you with JJJ and Epig? Do you feel you're not on their mafia level? Is that why Eloh lumping you in with them is odd? Or is there another reason?

Elohcin wrote:

G-Man wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Negative marks to everyone in single digit posts. More likely to be bad than the rest.

Bite me, angry bear boy. You do realize that, as of this post, your comment suggests that 8+1 of us are more likely to be bad than the remaining 5? That's a net so wide it's silly. Why not just say everyone not named JJJ is more likely to be bad? Or were you being cheeky there?


1.02

Thank you for addressing that as I was just about to.

Now, as many have agreed, there is not a lot to go on for a lynch on Day 1. I, however, intend to try and find a baddie instead of picking the no lynch option. I am going to throw sig's name out there. I think it was odd for him to be surprised at me mentioning his name as one of the good players who would be able to work around the fact that this game has baddie BTSC only at night. I am wondering if it alarmed him that I might be looking to him as being a baddie this game. This reaction could mean he actually is.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think rabbit makes valid points. There is a degree of ambiguity in S~V~S's wording which would enable her to move either direction on sig depending upon circumstance.

sig won't be mislynched in this game anyway because he was my n0 town peek.

Scotty wrote:So JJJ says he peeked dog, huh? Well isn't that sumthin? If JJJ is bad cop, we're right screwed. I'm going to choose to believe him right now. Though sig has been noticeably absent. Hmmm

JJJ why are you voting Polo? I know why I was gonna vote Polo, but you've been precariously mum on yours.

I'm voting Vompatti right now. He wants a no-lynch because lulz, and I'm not buying it.

Scotty wrote:

sig wrote:

Scotty wrote:

sig wrote:

Scotty wrote:

sig wrote:I didn't know who that lady was until I googled it so I picked not.

also Hi, been awhile since I played (or it seems like it) so be nice to me. :P

Wait you've seriously never heard of Hilary Swank?

Oh man do I feel old.

I might just vote for you day 1 for making me feel old, dog

But, scotty you are old.


:P

TAKE IT BACK

lol how old do you think I am? I'm not Epi's age, that's for sure.

I was going to cheat and look at your profile, but your age doesn't show up. However, you did say you're younger then Epi so I guess your about fifty two?

Or if that isn't right lets go with 23?

Naw, I'm 26. I'm officially on my own health insurance. Next up is my AARP card, surely!

Elohcin wrote:

sig wrote:

sig wrote:@HOST why is there no rule number 3?



Also I'd like to bring attention to this.

5. The Mafia team can only interact in BTSC during the Night phase.

I'm not sure how much this helps us, I know the last game we had with this was the Scrimmag, I was mafia and it did make things more hectic and we had much less planning. However, it also made the links less clear. So I think we should keep in mind the mafia doesn't have day chat.

Any thoughts on this?

Rule number 4 not 3.

I agree with you here. I, for one, love my chatzy BTSC when I am bad. Not only for planning and scheming, but for chatty fun. I have been bad in a game (or two perhaps, you guys know my memory) where the BTSC only took place in a separate thread and only during the night. It was a little chaotic, disconnected, and planning and scheming was quite difficult imo. I really hated it, honestly. I didn't even really feel as if I was part of a team. That said, I don't think we need to underestimate the mafia b/c of this. We have some really good players in this game - JJJ, Epi, Scotty, YOU...to name a few. I am sure these are some players that will be able to work with what they're given.

S~V~S wrote:

sig wrote:

sig wrote:@HOST why is there no rule number 3?



Also I'd like to bring attention to this.

5. The Mafia team can only interact in BTSC during the Night phase.

I'm not sure how much this helps us, I know the last game we had with this was the Scrimmag, I was mafia and it did make things more hectic and we had much less planning. However, it also made the links less clear. So I think we should keep in mind the mafia doesn't have day chat.

Any thoughts on this?

Rule number 4 not 3.

This is the only thing to get my attention so far,and as pings go, it's *meh*, so just saying it to say it, basically. It actually could be making me think sig is civ more so than the other way around, but it is hard to say this early. It just stuck out to me.

Sig has obviously read the rules including the on famous rule 10,

10. >>>Players are advised not to end any phase throughout their game with 4, 9, 13 written posts or multiples of those numbers.<<<

There isn't a rule 9, either. This seemed like saying something for the sake of being seen having something to say, BUT like I said, *meh*. This seems like a thread full of people playing it safe so far. So I am liking risk taking more than not.

I was not expecting to be playing, and have a crapton of stuff to do tonight (which is why I stole Ricos thunder and self announced, I only had a limited time to post). Toodles, citizens & Mafioso.

Linki, I hate no lynch. Grrr.

Scotty wrote:

sig wrote:

Scotty wrote:

sig wrote:I didn't know who that lady was until I googled it so I picked not.

also Hi, been awhile since I played (or it seems like it) so be nice to me. :P

Wait you've seriously never heard of Hilary Swank?

Oh man do I feel old.

I might just vote for you day 1 for making me feel old, dog

But, scotty you are old.


:P

TAKE IT BACK

lol how old do you think I am? I'm not Epi's age, that's for sure.

I was going to cheat and look at your profile, but your age doesn't show up. However, you did say you're younger then Epi so I guess your about fifty two?

Or if that isn't right lets go with 23?

sig wrote:@HOST why is there no rule number 3?



Also I'd like to bring attention to this.

5. The Mafia team can only interact in BTSC during the Night phase.

I'm not sure how much this helps us, I know the last game we had with this was the Scrimmag, I was mafia and it did make things more hectic and we had much less planning. However, it also made the links less clear. So I think we should keep in mind the mafia doesn't have day chat.

Any thoughts on this?

Scotty wrote:

sig wrote:I didn't know who that lady was until I googled it so I picked not.

also Hi, been awhile since I played (or it seems like it) so be nice to me. :P

Wait you've seriously never heard of Hilary Swank?

Oh man do I feel old.

I might just vote for you day 1 for making me feel old, dog