The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:59 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:35 pm Alrighty let's do something with this day

@S~V~S talk to me about Matahari. She seemed pretty towny to me but I am wondering where your doubts are, if I'm correctly remembering that you scumread her

@DrWilgy talk to me about spacedaisy
I’m not anymore. She addressed my concerns and has been solvey imo. I reread her and I think she’s town.

@DrWilgy both Daisy and dig are skilled players (I started playing in 2008 or 09, and at that time Daisy was an experienced player) and sig just fooled 40 people for days on end. I think 98% is a wee bit of hyperbole.

sog, dig, dog, I think I should report y’all for bullying me

/dead]

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:04 pm And in my 15 years of experience with her it’s not. Going balls to the walls to yeet someone day one is not in Kate’s bad toolbox.

Okay then she’s just wrong,

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:56 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:50 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:26 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:24 pm

Jfc...
Can you explain why it's a bad read?
Can you actually explain how it "feels like I know Sigs alignment"

Because I don't see how. And I am town so I don't know Sigs alignment so it's a bad read
Preemptively deducting results I think is a good indicator of TMI personally.

Again, I didn't think you were wolf based on tone, but the read of preemptively flipping Sig and the results of such is kinda sketchy.

I still very likely just stay on Sig here tbh.
I'm preemptively flipping sig scum cause I thought he was scum and I used that preemptive flip to do nothing so exactly what am I TMIing?

My fucking partner?

Come on Wilgy.
Yeah it feels like that.

W Neon in this situation where you are bussing would be able to know the observers of the above post are town and thus make this post for town to interpret and hopefully change the progression of what they presented.
What benefit do I have to bus my partner in a 2 wolf set up D1?

I bus yes. But I bus for gains. In this set up I gain nothing because by D3 people will be questioning why I'm alive. And I have bussed my only partner.

Bussing here when it's unnecessary is an auto loss. I don't do auto loss.

If we assume neon is also civ it’s very likely there’s one mafia on my wagon and one on hers.

shit maybe my early tin foil on falcon/Wilgy is right

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:00 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:53 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:52 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

I’ll follow this
This feels like flailing.

You town read me but are ok with voting me now rather than working with me to solve you. Nice.

I did, but your reasoning for leaving the wagons as they were isn’t very towny

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:59 pm Wow there’s a shot load of semantics analysis going on here.

Not my favorite thing tbh.

I will have time to catch up to thread after I get home and then tomorrow. Ttfn

The phase ends in 15 minutes

If you cant get caught up which is understandable I’d just vote off any of the 3 wagons vs a blind trust vote D1

Posting rip ;(

I should stop driving and phone mafiaing

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:56 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:49 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:48 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:39 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:37 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:32 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:31 pm

You... were hostile 3P in GoC though.

Not mafia though so the misvote attempt still applies
This logic does not compute.
Yes it 100% does

The reasoning for her attempt was based off a “slip” this slip didn’t exist

She used it as a reaosn to vote me and I wasn’t mafia. Ergo we’ve seen multiple times of mafia using a fake slip as a reason to vote
Will you make up your mind about what my read is based on? It's a totality if circumstances. Stop trying to pick at it piecemeal. It doesn't work that way.

Will you?

Since every time you’re pressured by me you seem to have a. Different reason
I don't mean to burst your bubble, but I don't feel pressured by you at all.

That’s not being reflected in your pairing style

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:57 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:49 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:26 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:27 am
sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:08 am @sig got any reads that don't involve me?
Yes sir

Wilgy, Falcon, you, are solid town. The first two for tone and how their banter came across. Now you might say sig didjt you just say fluff is NAI? Well yes I did but whatever.

Neon and SVS are light town reads. SVS responded well to the push and Neon is posting as she normally does.

Kate is my leading mafia read right now. I think she very opportunistically jumped on my wagon and she always pokes/votes me when I’m mafia.

I’d also bet 100% the other mafia member is a low poster but not in the screenshot she sent over.

You’re welcome I solved the game.
Yeet.
When she’s mafia is obviously what I mean. I blame phone postinh

@S~V~S
Thanks sig. I could see why she thought that. I would have thought that too.

I could also see your explanation, I also get flak for semantics. But the fact that your go to has been, “She’s bad”, hasn’t helped you.

Your reaction to her suspicion, whether valid or not, looks off to me.

My only experience with bad Neon is Holes, and I don’t think she looks anything like that here. Zero.

Join me on the Wilgy wagon.

My wagon has been pushed by Kate who’s tunneling at best and mafia at worst and Mac who doesn’t think I’m mafia now. The other people voted with vague bad reasoning

Neon isn’t a strong mafia read for me she’s firmly null but I think the reentry looks strong.

If we consider a world where Kate is town and we’ve been wasting a thread arguing then the POE is way out of whack for me.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:52 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

I’ll follow this

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:51 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:39 pm Question is whether it really matters.

Can you two get on the same page about a c/w to your wagons? Doesn't seem like you guys agree about anyone in particular both having individual pet scum reads.
Probably not

Let's play a game of would I vote this player

The Players

Dennis - yes
Dr Wigly - yes
falcon45ca - yes
Kate - no
MacDougall - no
Matahari - no
Neon- no
sig - maybe
SixStrings - yes
Spacedaisy - no
S~V~S - not today cause that feels dirty
Svs is civ. I wouldn't vote sixstrings either.

Agreed on six string first phase and his first game wouldn’t go there until we hit rock bottom.

SVS is I’m iffy but rea life is giving her a pass for me today

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:50 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:44 pm That progression between sig and wilgy is in bad faith on Wilgy's part too.

I think Wilgy is my top scumread here tbh.
I agree from a progression stand point. He was a gut town read, but his lack of interaction with me was iffy
I fail to understand how you can be confbiased Kate is mafia and not Wilgy given how they've treated you practically the same while Kate has been a more productive player generally. Why are you townreading Wilgy at all?

I found his initial posts with Falcon to be towny. Since then he hasn’t done much townness which is why I’d move there now.

Do you still think Kate is town?

You also haven’t formed a coherent case or given any other reasons.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:48 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:39 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:37 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:32 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:31 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:25 pm Bottom line? So many mafia make this mistake D1 of trying to vote me off for weak reasoning. Half the time they get caught and half the time I get mislynched.

Sabi trying it in GoC is the most recently example.

That’s what Kates trying to do here.
You... were hostile 3P in GoC though.

Not mafia though so the misvote attempt still applies
This logic does not compute.
Yes it 100% does

The reasoning for her attempt was based off a “slip” this slip didn’t exist

She used it as a reaosn to vote me and I wasn’t mafia. Ergo we’ve seen multiple times of mafia using a fake slip as a reason to vote
Will you make up your mind about what my read is based on? It's a totality if circumstances. Stop trying to pick at it piecemeal. It doesn't work that way.

Will you?

Since every time you’re pressured by me you seem to have a. Different reason

sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:26 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:27 am
sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:08 am @sig got any reads that don't involve me?
Yes sir

Wilgy, Falcon, you, are solid town. The first two for tone and how their banter came across. Now you might say sig didjt you just say fluff is NAI? Well yes I did but whatever.

Neon and SVS are light town reads. SVS responded well to the push and Neon is posting as she normally does.

Kate is my leading mafia read right now. I think she very opportunistically jumped on my wagon and she always pokes/votes me when I’m mafia.

I’d also bet 100% the other mafia member is a low poster but not in the screenshot she sent over.

You’re welcome I solved the game.
Yeet.
When she’s mafia is obviously what I mean. I blame phone postinh

@S~V~S

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:44 pm That progression between sig and wilgy is in bad faith on Wilgy's part too.

I think Wilgy is my top scumread here tbh.

I agree from a progression stand point. He was a gut town read, but his lack of interaction with me was iffy

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:42 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:40 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:37 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:29 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:11 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:04 pm

Since it stopped being a gut read to become a “well it’s since he used a no you” to a “well it was a slip that made it”

So yes

You’re finding fake reasons to Reenforce a fake gut read.
Isn't that just the normal evolution of a gut read?

Gut > Solid > Tinfoil > Solid?
Yes. Sigs gut read not evolving is weirder than Kate's gutread evolving

My read on Kate isn’t a gut read it’s a reaction to her gut read
Where did I say your read on kate was gut?

Wait I might be confused then.

Your post implies our reads on each other are both gut reads.

Kates read evolved (I’d argue it didn’t nor was gut her initial reason anyway but whatever)

While my gut reads haven’t. Which of my gut reads are you referring to then
No you both have gut read on players

Kates just happens to be on you

Kates evolved yours didn't that's all

Except hers hasn’t?

She’s singularly focused on me and just found nit picking reasons it’s that simple

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:37 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:29 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:11 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:04 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:49 am

It’s a tone:gut read
But when I had a gut read it was bullshit?
Since it stopped being a gut read to become a “well it’s since he used a no you” to a “well it was a slip that made it”

So yes

You’re finding fake reasons to Reenforce a fake gut read.
Isn't that just the normal evolution of a gut read?

Gut > Solid > Tinfoil > Solid?
Yes. Sigs gut read not evolving is weirder than Kate's gutread evolving

My read on Kate isn’t a gut read it’s a reaction to her gut read
Where did I say your read on kate was gut?

Wait I might be confused then.

Your post implies our reads on each other are both gut reads.

Kates read evolved (I’d argue it didn’t nor was gut her initial reason anyway but whatever)

While my gut reads haven’t. Which of my gut reads are you referring to then

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:37 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:32 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:31 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:25 pm Bottom line? So many mafia make this mistake D1 of trying to vote me off for weak reasoning. Half the time they get caught and half the time I get mislynched.

Sabi trying it in GoC is the most recently example.

That’s what Kates trying to do here.
You... were hostile 3P in GoC though.

Not mafia though so the misvote attempt still applies
This logic does not compute.

Yes it 100% does

The reasoning for her attempt was based off a “slip” this slip didn’t exist

She used it as a reaosn to vote me and I wasn’t mafia. Ergo we’ve seen multiple times of mafia using a fake slip as a reason to vote

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:31 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:01 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:15 am Hey y'all,

I wanted to let you know I had a death in my family. It was my uncle, and we weren't close, but he was my Dads younger brother and he's pretty broken up, so I'm going to go hang with him today, and probably tomorrow, and will be AFK. I should be back to catch up in the evening so I can make an informed vote.

Thanks for patience.
Love you
Love you too and gonna trust your judgment. You don’t do aggro when you have teammates, in general, especially on day one.

Don’t love a sig vote as he gets miselimmed alot, or used to, but I don’t know what the other case is. Sorry dog if I’m wrong.

I mean even if she’s not mafia she could just be wrong (she is). Join me on the neon wagon instead

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:31 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:25 pm Bottom line? So many mafia make this mistake D1 of trying to vote me off for weak reasoning. Half the time they get caught and half the time I get mislynched.

Sabi trying it in GoC is the most recently example.

That’s what Kates trying to do here.
You... were hostile 3P in GoC though.

Not mafia though so the misvote attempt still applies

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:11 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:04 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:49 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:43 am Still no reason to not vote Sig.

Slip aside, his insisting that Falcon and I were town so early without due cause felt TMI. I don't have a reason to tr like I do the others.
It’s a tone:gut read
But when I had a gut read it was bullshit?
Since it stopped being a gut read to become a “well it’s since he used a no you” to a “well it was a slip that made it”

So yes

You’re finding fake reasons to Reenforce a fake gut read.
Isn't that just the normal evolution of a gut read?

Gut > Solid > Tinfoil > Solid?
Yes. Sigs gut read not evolving is weirder than Kate's gutread evolving

My read on Kate isn’t a gut read it’s a reaction to her gut read

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:25 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:23 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:09 pm @DrWilgy

General thoughts on me vs neon?

And if you could flash onto someone who would it be
Falcon's observation holds weight to the point where I wouldn't feel bad voting either of you.

I would not flash as it stands. I think you/Neon have the most thread weight as well so your flips would be relatively good for town health I think.
Ooo don’t like this answer
Why. My PoE feels pretty thin. You, Neon, Daisy, SixStrings, maybe Matahari, but I've seen players I trust call Mata the pinnacle of towniness so w/e.

Since you aren’t moving off me duh

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:23 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:09 pm @DrWilgy

General thoughts on me vs neon?

And if you could flash onto someone who would it be
Falcon's observation holds weight to the point where I wouldn't feel bad voting either of you.

I would not flash as it stands. I think you/Neon have the most thread weight as well so your flips would be relatively good for town health I think.

Ooo don’t like this answer

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:18 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:16 pm If I left right now for the rest of the day should everyone stop voting me and only vote between Daisy, Kate, Six and Dennis? Since they’re the only active players
No. You were here to answer the accusations. Did you actually think that's what I meant? Come on Sig. Wow.

You’re saying not to vote for someone since they’re not here?

Half the players aren’t in thread right now and most of the time you have people not around for end of day. That’s not logically to say we can’t vote for someone since they aren’t here.

If I left right now for the rest of the day should everyone stop voting me and only vote between Daisy, Kate, Six and Dennis? Since they’re the only active players

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:14 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:11 pm My biggest issue with neon would be she threw out some Sus on Mac but then is voting with him. Also upon a quick reread she’s much less active than what I’d expect from her town game.

I know I’m civ so that’s the preferred wagon, but I’m not married to it.
It's also kind of uncool to pile on her when she said she won't be back. But hey, you do you.

I’m sorry but that’s not how mafia works and you’ve been around long enough to know that?

Like should we never not vote for someone who isn’t around for EOD

My biggest issue with neon would be she threw out some Sus on Mac but then is voting with him. Also upon a quick reread she’s much less active than what I’d expect from her town game.

I know I’m civ so that’s the preferred wagon, but I’m not married to it.

@DrWilgy

General thoughts on me vs neon?

And if you could flash onto someone who would it be

With only what looks like three of us here we can’t do much anyways but if I put aside the Kate read and say maybe I’m tunneling then we’ve got two mafia out there.

I’m quite frankly very unsure of who they could be.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:42 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:38 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:36 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:30 pm The fact the thread is so dead means mafia is totally fine with me being voted off
Yes all TWO of them are being awfully quiet...
Well now one is posting to try and keep my misvote alive I see
Actually my in laws just left and I put the baby down so now I had time to post.

If I was civ whose mafia?

You know what leave it tied let the RNG god decide and if I go over vote off Kate next

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:36 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:30 pm The fact the thread is so dead means mafia is totally fine with me being voted off
Yes all TWO of them are being awfully quiet...

Well now one is posting to try and keep my misvote alive I see

It also probably means neon isn’t mafia either

The fact the thread is so dead means mafia is totally fine with me being voted off

I’m moving to neon not convinced she’s mafia over Kate, but I know I’m civ so I’d rather lessen the POE and not be Misvoted

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:25 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:54 pm
I’ll dig it up this weekend. It involves dried cranberries and orange liqueur to rehydrate the berries. OMFG it’s awesome. She also made it with dried cherries and Cherry Kijafa.
Orange and cranberry are one of my favorite flavor combinations.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:58 pm And what, pray tell, did you have for dessert??
ice cream actually. Mint chocolate Viennetta.

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:17 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:26 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:37 pm Spacedaisy didn't vote either cake OR pie
Alas, I made the dreadful mistake of eating dinner and spending time with my husband before finishing my catch up.
Nevermind spacedaisy is bad for maintaining real life relationships and not putting our poll about cake and pie first
Sound logic. [VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

Matahari wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:58 am Sherry, I’m sorry to hear your news. My condolences to you and your family.
Proud slanker here. I’m usually pretty quiet during the first two days, but by day 3, I never seem to stop talking.
I’ve played maybe 7 games in the last 6 years that are not classic games, and it still blows my mind the way people throw votes out so early on day 1. I understand that sometimes the votes are just a way to engage a player and get them to talk, but sometimes it’s not. So I’m going to ask a question (hypothetical situation, actually) and I would really like to hear ppl’s thoughts about it. I understand though, if you would prefer not to discuss this, as it might interfere with your personal strategy. Ok, here goes:

The hosts post that there has been a lice outbreak in the nursery/playroom, and everyone has to go home for the day so the room can be decontaminated. Everyone has 1 hour to either vote or abstain. What would you do?

I’d really like to hear what people would do, but again, I understand if you prefer to keep your thought private.
I always struggle at the beginning of games and recently find it really difficult to stay engaged in games. It's why I don't play often anymore, so I feel you on the slanker thing. Also, this was the most creative GTH read request I've ever seen and I love it, lol.

I'm leaning sig or Neon atm.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:25 am You okay? Did you get lost during catch up!
Honestly, not all the great. While the situation with the original anxiety is mostly resolved and life isn't bad, there is a general malaise that hangs on at the moment. My hormones are probably being little bitches and fucking with me, honestly. Also, the Friday-Monday time frame tends to be when I am doing the most work. I've been pretty buried in work files the last couple days. So it's a little of this, little of that. But it's not a great excuse, because it's unfair to the other players and hosts. Sorry.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:44 am
See I'll murder Sig.

But the thing is that won't clear me either will it because lol Neon busses.

I'm not shielding sig just because I disagree with your Dennis read.

This reads like she knows sigs flip already
Mind meld on this one.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:52 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:44 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:24 pm
See I'll murder Sig.

But the thing is that won't clear me either will it because lol Neon busses.

I'm not shielding sig just because I disagree with your Dennis read.

This reads like she knows sigs flip already
Hmm... This is a good observation.
Mind meld.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:11 pm
Isn't that just the normal evolution of a gut read?

Gut > Solid > Tinfoil > Solid?
Mind meld.

Ok so...

MacDougall is my only solid town read atm. That thing he pulled where he put out fake reads to see the reactions is a frequent town maneuver that I've noticed him doing.

I didn't think anything of the supposed slip that Kate was talking about. However, I do think what Neon said is sus. This combined with the fact that sig seemed like he was poking around trying to see what would stick. My only fear here is that sig has frequently got yeeted day 1 over the years for being weird. But I'm going to go with my gut here because he's the one I feel the most scum lean on. Instead of scum hunting, it felt like he spent the day throwing spaghetti at the wall and discrediting Kate for what looked to me like a normal read progression.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Kinda rich coming from someone who’s made 1 on topic post.

Bottom line? So many mafia make this mistake D1 of trying to vote me off for weak reasoning. Half the time they get caught and half the time I get mislynched.

Sabi trying it in GoC is the most recently example.

That’s what Kates trying to do here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:11 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:04 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:49 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:43 am Still no reason to not vote Sig.

Slip aside, his insisting that Falcon and I were town so early without due cause felt TMI. I don't have a reason to tr like I do the others.
It’s a tone:gut read
But when I had a gut read it was bullshit?
Since it stopped being a gut read to become a “well it’s since he used a no you” to a “well it was a slip that made it”

So yes

You’re finding fake reasons to Reenforce a fake gut read.
Isn't that just the normal evolution of a gut read?

Gut > Solid > Tinfoil > Solid?

It’s reading to me like TMI + fake reasoning.

Also I’m pretty sure she didn’t even say it was gut to start with. Thinking back it was because I did a jokey no you onto Mac.

She didn’t mention gut until after I pointed out that her reasoning kept shifting

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:10 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:04 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:49 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:43 am Still no reason to not vote Sig.

Slip aside, his insisting that Falcon and I were town so early without due cause felt TMI. I don't have a reason to tr like I do the others.
It’s a tone:gut read
But when I had a gut read it was bullshit?
Since it stopped being a gut read to become a “well it’s since he used a no you” to a “well it was a slip that made it”

So yes

You’re finding fake reasons to Reenforce a fake gut read.
So if you have a reason to look, and then see one more or two more or 5000 more reasons, all subsequent reasons are worthless?

In this case yes. Since you’re discounting the prior reasons to find new ones that are more solid since you have TMI and know I’ll flip civ.

What you’re doing is attempting to avoid any blowback for when I flip civ since I called you out vs the other people on my wagon.

Notice I didn’t no you onto say Falcon or seriously onto Mac. Since there votes didn’t come across as mafia being opportunist meanwhile your vote did.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:49 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:43 am Still no reason to not vote Sig.

Slip aside, his insisting that Falcon and I were town so early without due cause felt TMI. I don't have a reason to tr like I do the others.
It’s a tone:gut read
But when I had a gut read it was bullshit?

Since it stopped being a gut read to become a “well it’s since he used a no you” to a “well it was a slip that made it”

So yes

You’re finding fake reasons to Reenforce a fake gut read.

Assuming Mac doesn’t vote me I’ll probably just sheep him this phase though

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:52 am
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:50 am I’ve not seen a single good reason to vote for me today. So it’s not like I can do anything.

Out of all the votes Kates was the most scummy and the way she went about defending herself was even more scummy she’s still my top choice for today
Ok, but if not Kate then who. How's your PoE looking?

That’s a good question.

I don’t feel like we really have enough yet.

Dennis, Wilgy (you) and Falcon are all playing within your civ meta more than mafia meta. So you’d be town

Mac is a solid town read even though he’s pushing me mainly since town mac always pushes me, then finds a nonsense reason to realize I’m civ.

SVS was looking Civvie at first but post her brush up with Mac I can’t recall anything so that’s kind of a bad sign.

I have to do some quick reskinming for the rest of the player base.

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:39 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:56 pm I'm hoping we can put the list thing to bed. Sig, who I suspected, suddenly wanted to look at low posters. I ss'd the low posters (everyone above who I included had 17+ posts which wasn't low at that point). Of the people on the list, the majority were hosts, non players or first time players. THAT WAS EXACTLY the point I was making. Why did sig want to jump to looking to low posters and to make it worse, there weren't really any low posters to look at...
When Sig first mentioned looking at low posters, I didn’t think anything much about it. I remembered he mentioned low posters early in the anniversary game (game1), so I assumed he was just one of the players who suspects slankers. I went back through the anniversary game and read his posts. He did mention low posters early, but in the negative, he didn’t think it was good to look at them so early in the game.
It didn’t really tell me anything, but I am more open to your pov on Sig now.

It’s very game based for me.

This game only has 12 players if its civ voices attacking each other in thread mafia will be slanking.

A game like this mafia wants to fly under the radar. Which is why I mentioned looking at them.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:56 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:49 pm @MacDougall yeah I think he's town. His tone is that of having fun, which wouldn't exist if they were wolf. Also these two posts seem very much in line with his town modus operandi

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:47 pm Dennis is town, Mac is town.

I'm town.

Almost 1/3rd of the list solved folks

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:45 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:21 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:18 pm Also (and the real reason why I came in here)

I’m betting the entire mafia team (of two lol) isn’t someone actively posting
Here are your "low posters." Discuss.
It's sub-optimal for town to lynch slankers D1
Not explicitly. As long as the day is played out if consensus suggests it with a valid reason it's fine.
I'm sure there are certain circumstances where it's not, nothing is absolute.

I don't think you disagree that as a general rule of thumb, D1 slanker lynches are not ideal. And Kate gave a list of 7?

It's absurd to consider lynching within a pool of 7 slankers D1

I'm hoping we can put the list thing to bed. Sig, who I suspected, suddenly wanted to look at low posters. I ss'd the low posters (everyone above who I included had 17+ posts which wasn't low at that point). Of the people on the list, the majority were hosts, non players or first time players. THAT WAS EXACTLY the point I was making. Why did sig want to jump to looking to low posters and to make it worse, there weren't really any low posters to look at...

No since you’re trying to create a false narrative with the list. We had fluff low posters who had inflated numbers there still low posters.

You’re attempt to poo poo what I’m saying by writing it off is what mafia do

I’ve not seen a single good reason to vote for me today. So it’s not like I can do anything.

Out of all the votes Kates was the most scummy and the way she went about defending herself was even more scummy she’s still my top choice for today

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:43 am Still no reason to not vote Sig.

Slip aside, his insisting that Falcon and I were town so early without due cause felt TMI. I don't have a reason to tr like I do the others.

It’s a tone:gut read

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:56 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:20 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:04 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:16 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:15 pm People are making reads real quick here and I'm struggling to keep up

Anyone could still be bad in my book but SVS is probably my highest town read because she found a way to write 2 paragraphs in a single post already. Mostly gut but shrug emoji
I... what?
See previous post. Where I said "Idk man it's gut. Can't explain it"
Yeah see but that's not gonna cut it
Shrug emoji

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Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:42 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:35 pm I guarantee Kate is mafia.
You are fantastically incorrect.

I am fantastic thanks.

Incorrect we shall see

I guarantee Kate is mafia.

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