The Syndicate

So I was right about Daisy!

It seems like we had about three bad teams I'm guessing?

I'm torn on Bull's as I said I disliked his votes, but it did draw attention to him and I don't see why if he was mafia he'd do that. Also minus his votes I don't see anything bad with him. He is posting good on topic stuff, and I'm not even gut reading him as bad.
I could be tunneling a bit on Quin. However, I don't see myself voting for him today anyways. Daisy and Epi both sound good to me. Why do you think Wilgy is a civ?

@Sorsha who do you plan to vote for tomorrow?

Okay so some quick thoughts before the night ends. Right know I'm reading Llama as a civ he shouldn't be lynched. After reading everything over Bull's does look better though I still dislike his votes. He isn't a good lynch candidate. I've got a slight ping on Sorsha for her vote, but besides that she is null. A few pings from Nero, but not enough to lynch on keep I'll keep my eye on him.
Wilgy is a slight civ lean, again I wouldn't lynch him today.
I've got a slight mafia ping on Quin. Today I'd like to lynch either Epi or SD as I believe one or more likely both of them are mafia members.

One of our most active players who was almost certainly a civ was lynched, because Epi voted for them. Epi would then be able to defend himself using the self preservation argument. However, he could have easily voted for SD and tied it that way but, he didn't. He also waited until the very last second to vote, which is suspicious seeing who he voted for.

I think SD and Epi are both mafia members, this explains why Epi didn't vote for her, but for G-Man instead.

So right know I'd be good with an Epi lynch tomorrow.

I voted for SD, I gave my reasoning before it is partly a gut read and partly her own in thread content and her responses to Gman. I'm not really liking the Epi lynch, but I'm not horribly against it either. I found both Sorsha and Bull's reasons for voting pingy.

Quin wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:

G-Man wrote:My evening itinerary is dinner, bottle, bath time, story, and tuck in. The first two are complete and I'll return after completing the others.

I think I'll change and come back to G-Man. Bubby's take priority, after all.

Sig, your turn.

My turn for what?

'What makes you a bad lynch'?

Why would I be a good lynch? I haven't done anything suspicious I don't think, I've made cases and stated my opinion of people, and have been an active town player.

What makes you a bad lynch?

Quin wrote:

G-Man wrote:My evening itinerary is dinner, bottle, bath time, story, and tuck in. The first two are complete and I'll return after completing the others.

I think I'll change and come back to G-Man. Bubby's take priority, after all.

Sig, your turn.

My turn for what?

I'd prefer Daisy over Epi and Nero today. I really don't have a firm grasp on either of them, but I feel more sure that Daisy is bad. G-man made some good points on her and I really disliked her response to his ISO.

What does everyone think of Quin?

I don't think Llama's reasoning is right in regards to Nero. While I've never hosted I don't think the hosts would be in a bigger rush to replace a mafia member then a civ.

I've got a slight ping from nero, and I am feeling good about Epi's posts directed at him, but he won't be getting my vote today for a few reasons. I don't like what Llama said about him, as off right know Nero seems like an easy lynch button.

I don't like Daisy's response to G-man's ISO. It came off as very defensive and pingy.

@Wilgy, I remember Llama gut reading you as bad so I asked him.

Right know I'm reading G-man as a civ, and Wilgy as null leaning civ. Lots of null reads still and I've got Quin as a scum lean.

@Bulls who do you plan to vote for today and why?

@Llama what do you think about Wilgy voting for Epi with you?

Did a quick ISO on Quin.

Quin wrote:Generally I would go for a Day 1 no lynch, but judging by the polls that doesn't seem to be all that popular a choice here. I'll come back with a vote pretty soon, I guess.

Would rather go for a no lynch then a day 1 lynch this is cultural so this is neutral to me.

Quin wrote:I'll put my vote forward for sig, I guess.

Random vote for me, slightly pingy.

Quin wrote:

G-Man wrote:

Quin wrote:I'll put my vote forward for sig, I guess.

Is there any reasoning for your vote or are you picking randomly?

I don't recall seeing him post yet, if anything. I'd just rather spare the people who will more likely create an active game from being lynched.

So he explains his random vote by saying he hadn't seen any of my post yet. Looking back I find this hard to believe, while I only had five posts, I was the first player to make a post. So this is pingy.

Quin wrote:Nevermind. He has posted. I'll move it to someone who actually hasn't posted yet.

This post was the next one he did, walking back his vote.

Quin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm voting for Quin for wanting to vote for the only option guaranteed to not catch a baddie.

How do you know it's guaranteed not to catch a baddie?

I was referring to the "no lynch" option, for which Quin expressed a preference. If we don't lynch people, it's impossible to catch bad guys.

Yeah, I pretty much always do a no lynch unless the situation demands it. But I never do it past Day 1. I like to backup my votes with role related evidence, so on Day 1 I generally default to a NL.

That's not to say I'm not taking suspicious behaviours into account. I'm definitely doing that.

More about no lynching, not an alignment indicator at all.

Quin wrote:Changing my vote to Bullzeye. A completely random lynch just doesn't make any sense to me, even when there's close to no information to go off of.

Votes for Bulls based around a random vote, this post seems genuine.

Quin wrote:I have mixed feelings on llama right now. I'm inclined to believe he is town, owing to the way he presented his 'rainbow list', and I don't doubt the validity of his role claim, but I don't understand why he would claim it in the first place. I can't think of a single way it benefits him.

I quoted it before but I lost it, but I honestly think SVS missing the vote was an honest mistake, since I thought the day phase was 48 hours as well. But I still acknowledge whoever it was that said he hasn't been saying much with any relevance.

Same thoughts on Llama as earlier, but also what I see as some soft defense of SVS. Minor ping from this post.

Also at some point he mentioned Wilgy's doctor claim, I'm not sure what to make of it but, it gave me a bad gut ping.


This isn't as much as I thought it would be, but right know I'm reading Quin as a scum lean. His interactions with SVS are pingy, and I dislike his random vote for me.


linki: Who do you plan to vote for G-man?

Spacedaisy wrote:I was thinking about the SVS kill last night and I realized something. I fully believe her interaction with llama was her being genuinely upset about something he said. If she had BTSC with him I think that interaction was more likely to take place there than in thread, so I think I've changed my mind on llama.

You don't think it could have been fake?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

sig wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I also need to mention a couple things to you beautiful players.
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Also, there has been chatter about player survivals. As is now evident, this sort of ability is in play in this game. This has been included as a mechanic in this game, and is not viewed as a power role.

I'm confused?

There is a Heist guideline that states that a Heist should have no more than three (3) power roles. I'm stating that I do not consider this mechanic to be a power role.

What is that mechanic and when does it appear?

Quin wrote:

sig wrote:I got nothing from that, not much game interactions or thoughts at all. She had a back and forth with Llama not game related stuff, could this have been cooked up between them?

Then this which I think is a bit better.

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:I have mixed feelings on llama right now. I'm inclined to believe he is town, owing to the way he presented his 'rainbow list', and I don't doubt the validity of his role claim, but I don't understand why he would claim it in the first place. I can't think of a single way it benefits him.

I quoted it before but I lost it, but I honestly think SVS missing the vote was an honest mistake, since I thought the day phase was 48 hours as well. But I still acknowledge whoever it was that said he hasn't been saying much with any relevance.

That is a pretty safe statement since I pretty much missed the entirety of Day One; I think I made one post, and that was a role play attempt. My other game was a harder catch up so I did that first, now I am ready to go here. My apologies for my Day One fail.

Quin's post looks pingy imo.

What about it do you not like? Please elaborate.

You gave some soft defense of SVS in this post, which also seems kind off like cover for an inactive teammate. This also gave SVS an opportunity to answer back and defend herself without outwardly defending herself.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

sig wrote:@hosts can you confirm who killed Sloonie?

Nope. Golden has me strapped to a chair that shocks me if I try to say such things.

Oh kinky I mean you should hold a grudge against him.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I also need to mention a couple things to you beautiful players.
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Also, there has been chatter about player survivals. As is now evident, this sort of ability is in play in this game. This has been included as a mechanic in this game, and is not viewed as a power role.

I'm confused?

I got nothing from that, not much game interactions or thoughts at all. She had a back and forth with Llama not game related stuff, could this have been cooked up between them?

Then this which I think is a bit better.

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:I have mixed feelings on llama right now. I'm inclined to believe he is town, owing to the way he presented his 'rainbow list', and I don't doubt the validity of his role claim, but I don't understand why he would claim it in the first place. I can't think of a single way it benefits him.

I quoted it before but I lost it, but I honestly think SVS missing the vote was an honest mistake, since I thought the day phase was 48 hours as well. But I still acknowledge whoever it was that said he hasn't been saying much with any relevance.

That is a pretty safe statement since I pretty much missed the entirety of Day One; I think I made one post, and that was a role play attempt. My other game was a harder catch up so I did that first, now I am ready to go here. My apologies for my Day One fail.

Quin's post looks pingy imo.

Okay, that is interesting.
So SVS was bad and was NK'd by the vig, then the mafia killed Sloonie who survived but, was then killed by someone else?

@hosts can you confirm who killed Sloonie?

Either way one baddie down, lets see if an ISO of SVS will help catch her mafia buddies, since after all if they are on her team they must be her friends. I wish I had friends, but nobody ever wants to get close to me.



Am I coming across as to emo in my Cancer roleplaying?

Spacedaisy wrote:Uh, point to consider, G-Man survived a lynch and llama is claiming to have the same ability as g-Man. It seems unlikely to me that they would have the same role ability and the same alignment.

I agree with Daisy here, though Llama could be lying about his lynch proof ability?

Interesting, though is that more likely a civ role or mafia role?

DrWilgy wrote:I feel like he contradicted himself while putting a pressure vote on Daisy.

See my ISO Sig

?

Plus yaaa tie lets see who breaks it and I also have trust in Sloonie which helps with my vote.

There is a larger chance Bull's is mafia imo. I'll be switching to him.

I don't like this Gman lynch and don't see where the idea that he is mafia is coming from?

Another site with mafia Rate your music. not that I should tell you since I've got a grudge etc

Voted for Spacedaisy, I don't like her vote for Wilgy at all.

Wilgy always claims doctor regardless of the game and alignment. The other would be Nero he has made a few posts and I think your voting for him already? I've got a slight ping but not vote worthy.

The idea of no lynches is bad imo, it tends to be pushed by mafia since it benefits them the most. So that earns Quin an but I do recognize this is a culture thing. Glorfindel does this every game regardless of alignment in most games I've played with him so it is a slight ping but not always a mafia thing.

linki: good point, but I'm mad at Epi he knows what he did to me and he pretends he didn't and since he did it I won't be voting with him today. Unless he is right which I doubt he would be since he is mean.

G-Man wrote:The opening posts say that ties are broken with a coin flip.

Thanks

@Sorsha I don't remember but I'm a cancer and that is how we roll.
:P

Sorsha wrote:

sig wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'm feeling like this is civ Wilgy this game, he's playful and seems like he's enjoying himself which is not how he is as mafia.

I think I'll trust him and go for a G-man vote.

I don't reaally like this vote, It seems a little bit to early to just trust someone enough to vote with them. Even if Sorsha is right about Wilgy, he might not know what he is talking about.

Who are you voting for wilgy?

I'm unsure of who to vote for, I really don't like Bulls vote. However, I also don't like your vote I could see myself voting for you. Or maybe Quin since I've got a grudge on him.

I'll wait to see what the verdict for tied votes is before placing mine. But, I won't be voting for G-man he seems fine to me.

linki: Maybe still your wording was pinged me a bit.

really*

Sorsha wrote:I'm feeling like this is civ Wilgy this game, he's playful and seems like he's enjoying himself which is not how he is as mafia.

I think I'll trust him and go for a G-man vote.

I don't reaally like this vote, It seems a little bit to early to just trust someone enough to vote with them. Even if Sorsha is right about Wilgy, he might not know what he is talking about.

I don't like Bull's vote for Sorsha, it seems like a good excuse to cast a vote without having to back it up. I especially don't like that this is such a small game and he randomized his vote.

Thoughts on this?

G-Man wrote:I am changing my vote because I've got bigger fish to fry. Spacedaisy has been AWOL and has contributed nothing of substance thus far. It may very well just be that I've forgotten how Spacedaisy plays. Something just seems wrong about her soft posts and general absence though.

Is she usually less active day 1? Also what is her civ vs mafia posting meta? Like does she post more or less?

DrWilgy wrote:Let's play a game!

I'm bad and my teammate is Sig

*Wilgy places the tomato filled fish hat on Sorsha's head*

Looks like a fun game, and hey food is included.

I'm bad and my teammate is Sloonie

DrWilgy wrote:

sig wrote:I'd like to see Quin or Epi lynched at some point they where mean to me and I never forgive or forget.

It's things like this that get you lynched Sig :P

Cancer never forgets slights both real and imaginary.

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:I'd like to see Quin or Epi lynched at some point they where mean to me and I never forgive or forget.

What'd I do this time?

You should know what you did, but if you can't remember then I won't remind you. Obviously Me and my grudge holding Cancer self isn't important enough to you. Hmph

thellama73 wrote:

sig wrote: @Llama I agree with you his reaction has been weird, it is suspicious, though you doing a rainbow list for the first time ever is also strange, what prompted you to do this. However, I rarely commit to agreeing with someone to early you have to earn my trust and so far I don't trust anyone.

I think you answered your own question there.

Did I?

Sloonei wrote:

sig wrote:Got a minor ping on Nero, and I don't like that Wilgy hasn't addressed the votes on him yet that is strange. I'm very confident that I've got a good gut read on G Man though he hasn't posted any memes yet.

@Llama is your post pure gut based or did you take posts into account as well?

@Bull's why did you think Llama's vote was shifty?

I don't see what's strange about it. Is there any evidence that he's even been here since the votes came in? It hasn't been all that long.

Okay true, why are voting for Wilgy right know?

@Bulls okay thanks.


@Llama I agree with you his reaction has been weird, it is suspicious, though you doing a rainbow list for the first time ever is also strange, what prompted you to do this. However, I rarely commit to agreeing with someone to early you have to earn my trust and so far I don't trust anyone.

I'd like to see Quin or Epi lynched at some point they where mean to me and I never forgive or forget.

Got a minor ping on Nero, and I don't like that Wilgy hasn't addressed the votes on him yet that is strange. I'm very confident that I've got a good gut read on G Man though he hasn't posted any memes yet.

@Llama is your post pure gut based or did you take posts into account as well?

@Bull's why did you think Llama's vote was shifty?

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok this thread got weird

Someone in this thread should marry me? If they did I'd be very loyal since that is just the kind off crab I am.
We will have eight kids since I love the sound of little feet padding around the house, I'll be super proud of of my sons and fiercely protective of my daughters and I'm super patience.

speaking of crabs I'm kinda crabby I haven't seen anything weird yet, I'll never get out of my shell if this keeps up.

:O That grudge isn't going anywhere in fact I don't think I'll ever trust you. I've crawled back into the sand and you'll never see me again except for when I come up to pinch you.

Quin wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:I'll put my vote forward for sig, I guess.

You wouldn't understand me since my Sign is much more complex then you so I'm never going to forget that vote and hold a grudge against you forever. (I'm roleplaying )

Time to go all Native on you and back to my mafia roots of RVS. Speaking of which thoughts on it?

I've never been too fond of random voting. Strictly going off of probabilities it doesn't bode well.

and uh..plz 4giv.

Okay I don't know about random voting it makes me nervous to think about. Can I trust you i'd like to trust you but idk I'm awful shy sometimes each time you talk to me I seem different since I'm Cancer.

Golden wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:I'll put my vote forward for sig, I guess.

You wouldn't understand me since my Sign is much more complex then you so I'm never going to forget that vote and hold a grudge against you forever. (I'm roleplaying )

Time to go all Native on you and back to my mafia roots of RVS. Speaking of which thoughts on it?

linki: I'm still holding my grudge on you, if ytou cared enough you'd draw me into the discussion you see it takes a long time to get to know me just like the crab I have a strong shell and if you don't take the time to peel it back you'll never understand me and I won't really care.

Hosts do you get a prize for being the best roleplayer?

What, me personally? I never get a prize, no, because I suck at roleplaying.

Hosts do I get a prize for roleplaying?

Quin wrote:I'll put my vote forward for sig, I guess.

You wouldn't understand me since my Sign is much more complex then you so I'm never going to forget that vote and hold a grudge against you forever. (I'm roleplaying )

Time to go all Native on you and back to my mafia roots of RVS. Speaking of which thoughts on it?

linki: I'm still holding my grudge on you, if ytou cared enough you'd draw me into the discussion you see it takes a long time to get to know me just like the crab I have a strong shell and if you don't take the time to peel it back you'll never understand me and I won't really care.

Hosts do you get a prize for being the best roleplayer?

G-Man wrote:To me, not everyone who attended Woodstock or protested was a hippie. For me, hippies are the morally ambiguous, directionless, drug-using, free sex types. If they became productive members of society, then they're alright by me.

I think you mean libertarians (we can make fun of them since they will never matter in the grand scheme of things.) :P
My aunt is a hippie I like her ergo we should lynch all anti hippie's

DrWilgy wrote:I am taking and accepting both SVS's serious point and the hilarity of that typo.

Permission to wank into threads being the most handsome doctor that I most definitely am?

*Collects splattered tomato remains*

Can I watch?

Sloonei wrote:I'm not content to sit around and wait for Day 1, so I'll get the festivities started with a simple question: 9 vs 3 or 10 vs 2?

If there is a cop 9 v 3 if there isn't a cop 10 v 2 or it could be neither why do you think it is one of those two?