The Syndicate

LoRab wrote:So, Lacey, while you're here...why did you suspect FZ the other day and plan to vote for him?

Elohcin wrote:RIP MP.

I don't think the baddies would be that stupid...to kill someone who was calling them out.

thellama73 wrote:RIP MP

That's a lame kill. He was contributing a lot. Clearly the baddies are scared that he was onto something.

LoRab wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Elohcin - her vote at the end, and the later reasoning to follow.
fingersplints - her Day 1 vote
LoRab - her defence of lacey for being new (though I guess they are friends)
Russtifinko - I don't really know why.
llama - everything

I would also like to hear yours MP.

fingersplints - D1 vote, general lack of posting
LoRab - the defense of Lacey, then agreeing with me on Lacey possibly being mafia when she had no previous inclination, yet reluctant to vote for her
nijuu - I no longer have a GTH mafia read on Blooper
Russ - I can't remember a single opinion he has had yet
Llama - His TinyBubbles suspicion was incredibly weak and struck me as forced/insincere and he could have been saved today
TinyBubbles - DRIVE-BY VOTE, nuff said

I'm not bad, but eye me all you want.

But seriously...yours is the same eplanation that others have parrotted, so I'm going with yours.

I discouraged a lacey lynch day 1/2 to let her have her footing. Because she's a personal friend and she's new. It was only during yesterday that I started becoming suspicious of her--you happened to mention it before I did. She's been playing the newbie card a lot, and some of her questions seem as if they are overly trying to sound civ-friendly.

I'd rather lynch Splints first--I think she's more likely bad. But Lacey no longer has a pass. I'm confident that she likes the game and will return.

Simon wrote:While the birds were on their journey, some pigs were going after them. The birds fought back. It was like an egg war. The pigs were trying to get the eggs.

boo has been killed by Foreman Pig. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

MovingPictures07 wrote:The Game Results:

Click here to access the results spreadsheet.

Analysis and observations:
- All five game participants agreed that Boomslang, DFaraday, and FZ. seem civilian.
- Every participant, except for one, agreed that fingersplints seems mafia.
- It is therefore, VERY interesting, that fingersplints has hardly been discussed today (if at all, really, besides FZ. mentioning her), and only has one vote (which FZ. just cast, after the conclusion of this game).
- In contrast, the players with the two most votes at the moment, with three each, (thellama73 and Spacedaisy) do not have the same degree of perception. 3 out of 5 players believed Llama seemed more mafia, whereas only 1 thought Spacedaisy seemed mafia.

- Blooper seemed hyper-concerned with the fact that her mafia reads outnumbered her civilian reads. She was the only participant to name MORE gun-to-head mafia reads than civilian reads.
- Made named exactly four mafia reads, which is the number of mafia in this game.
- FZ. was the only player who occasionally gave answers that were not clear cut, with the exception of one addendum by Made (when he said he wanted to change his read on Elo to Indy).

- Both FZ. and I changed our minds on several of our reads when we were forced to decide, most notably on Spacedaisy (from mafia to civilian), who could die today, as well as on LoRab (from civilian to mafia). Personally, I would have still read Daisy as mafia if she had not posted what she did during The Game.
- Other than that, I did not notice any drastic shifts in opinion from any other player, but it would be interesting to compare these GTH responses with anything these participants said previously.

What did you all think of this exercise? What do you make of the results?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

lipsticklacey wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

lipsticklacey wrote:
Because it's apparently the key to appearing suspicious, which is kinda ridiculous, but okay, I get it.

Sure, I'm up for a game. I'd like to know what it is first, so I don't end up like Michael Douglas, but okay!

So you're concerned about appearing suspicious?

The game is on, if FZ. and Blooper are willing. Anyone else want in? Quickly.

Only so far as I'd like to keep playing, and appearing suspicious seems to get you lynched.

Also, so glad you got the movie reference.

Do you think civilians have anything to lose though by being lynched?

lipsticklacey wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Last one:

TinyBubbles

mafia

MovingPictures07 wrote:Last one:

TinyBubbles

MovingPictures07 wrote:Spacedaisy

thellama73

MovingPictures07 wrote:nijuukyugou

Russtifinko

MovingPictures07 wrote:Made

MovingPictures07

MovingPictures07 wrote:LoRab

lipsticklacey

MovingPictures07 wrote:New group:

fingersplints

FZ.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Next two:

DFaraday

Elohcin

MovingPictures07 wrote:boo

Boomslang

MovingPictures07 wrote:

lipsticklacey wrote:
Because it's apparently the key to appearing suspicious, which is kinda ridiculous, but okay, I get it.

Sure, I'm up for a game. I'd like to know what it is first, so I don't end up like Michael Douglas, but okay!

So you're concerned about appearing suspicious?

The game is on, if FZ. and Blooper are willing. Anyone else want in? Quickly.

FZ. wrote:Lacey, if we lynch you, will you come back? :P

MovingPictures07 wrote:

lipsticklacey wrote:

LoRab wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

LoRab wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:On a completely different note, I think Lacey may be mafia. She is really playing that newbie card hard.

I agree with that statement. Not ready to lynch her today (I have an overly developed sense of personal guilt), but I am thinking in that direction, as well.

Why not? You gave her D1 at least.

Because I feel like a brand new player needs 3 games, before they realize they love the game and will come back for more. And to also get a grasp. She's one of my closest friends. I have no problem killing her when the time comes, I just need to , personally, give her another day beofre I feel ethically good about doing so.

I think I'm starting to understand/get the hang of it, so I can stop "playing that newbie card hard."

Just finished catching up... what is this game business?

Why do you want to stop playing it now?

It's a game. Want to play? If so, say yes. If I can quickly get one other and FZ. is still willing, we can play.

LoRab wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

LoRab wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:On a completely different note, I think Lacey may be mafia. She is really playing that newbie card hard.

I agree with that statement. Not ready to lynch her today (I have an overly developed sense of personal guilt), but I am thinking in that direction, as well.

Why not? You gave her D1 at least.

Because I feel like a brand new player needs 3 games, before they realize they love the game and will come back for more. And to also get a grasp. She's one of my closest friends. I have no problem killing her when the time comes, I just need to , personally, give her another day beofre I feel ethically good about doing so.

lipsticklacey wrote:

boo wrote:Alright cool.

To expand re:LR: I was getting the feeling Lacey was civ, based on her limited number of posts. I had thought (up until that post from LR), that since she's a first time player, and I am suspicious of almost all hosts (including Epi) that they tend to give new players BTSC (or at least the possibility for it), so I thought maybe, in addition to Scotty, LR (since she's a RL friend of Lacey and I also think that could be a factor, which is increased by what Eloh mentioned about Simon and Epi having let her pick her role) and Lacey were the other two bluebirds.

Then LR made that post, which reads to me like someone who has more insight into the topic, but is trying to mask it. Now, maybe as a bluebird she'd mask it, but I'm not sure more clarification would be given to a civ. That makes me think she might be bad (and by extension, raises concerns about Lacey, since maybe LR just did some of the often-talked-about-but-mostly-imo-made-up coaching of a new player, with two of them being baddies).

Since I was the only person doing much night-talking, I didn't want to post that, in case Mighty Eagle was not inclined to agree with me.

Goodness, I hope it's not the case that more clarification wouldn't be given to a civ. How else would a newbie civ learn about the game? I could be misunderstanding your meaning, though. I'm grateful that people answered my questions about one of the baddies gaining the bluebird's power. That aspect seems crucial, but maybe it doesn't actually come up much?

LoRab wrote:I have no knowledge of Lacey's role.

My post about her was because we were both mentioned. And I feel protective of her because she's an RL friend and I convinced her to play--and would feel bad if she had been lynched for being late to the game, so to speak.

boo wrote:Alright cool.

To expand re:LR: I was getting the feeling Lacey was civ, based on her limited number of posts. I had thought (up until that post from LR), that since she's a first time player, and I am suspicious of almost all hosts (including Epi) that they tend to give new players BTSC (or at least the possibility for it), so I thought maybe, in addition to Scotty, LR (since she's a RL friend of Lacey and I also think that could be a factor, which is increased by what Eloh mentioned about Simon and Epi having let her pick her role) and Lacey were the other two bluebirds.

Then LR made that post, which reads to me like someone who has more insight into the topic, but is trying to mask it. Now, maybe as a bluebird she'd mask it, but I'm not sure more clarification would be given to a civ. That makes me think she might be bad (and by extension, raises concerns about Lacey, since maybe LR just did some of the often-talked-about-but-mostly-imo-made-up coaching of a new player, with two of them being baddies).

Since I was the only person doing much night-talking, I didn't want to post that, in case Mighty Eagle was not inclined to agree with me.

Russtifinko wrote:

boo wrote:It's a bad day for quotes, apparently.

And the lynches. RIP Scotty.

And Lacey, lynch switches or stops usually have to be used before the lynch happens. Which is really tough, because as a civ, the person using them usually doesn't know ahead of time whether they're saving a civ or baddie.

lipsticklacey wrote:Hopefully she posts something though.

Lacey, any thoughts so far? Do see anything suspicious in any players that might indicate they are mafia?

Linki: Oh hi Lacey, you are here. Is it alright if I keep calling you Lacey?

Scotty wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Scotty wrote:

LoRab wrote:voted Scotty. Weak suspicion, but day 1. I thought by pointing out Lacey and I, he was seriously trying to point figures in any direction other than his. Which doesn't seem like a civ tactic. And he knows from the last game that I have quiet days because of life, so...doesn't seem so authentic to point in my direction because I hadn't posted during this RL day. And voting now because I'm exhausted and starting to fall asleep.

If you have followed me at all in any game I play here, my Day 1 is usually centered around looking at people that haven't checked in/posted. My view is if you're in the game, play the game. Why should we keep you around?

Should I not be pointing in directions other than myself? Or should I just vote myself? I'm not sure what constitutes a civ tactic.

Just so you feel better, DFaraday also hasn't posted today.

And hello lipstick! Nice to hear from you, and I hope to get to play with you past Day 1!

I was working from 8-8 and had no chances to check in.

My really quick summary of the posts makes me feel okay about Boo and Scotty. I'm not sure about FZ, specifically going after Boo for his logic angle (which he always plays anyway). I don't feel like trying to scrutinize posts tonight, so I'll go with my feeling and *vote FZ*

It's all good. I know that feeling. I worked a 6am-4am shift a few days ago. I'm currently locked in a bathroom for the next 5 minutes.

I ask all the people that haven't voted not to vote me out on Day 1. Because 2/4 have no real reason to vote me. Lipstick is new, and I wish her well. But man....