The Syndicate

Where did everyone go???

Sheep wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:22 pm Where did everyone go???
They're all frozen and crying in wolfchat.

I knew it!

Hi Sheep

Sheep wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:39 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:30 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:24 pm good to know syn is a useless townie
thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
Nobody in their right mind reads a comment like that and thinks "this is wolf making a perspective slip on town" LMAO
This post confuses me tbh.

Also I've potentially figured out why the game's being so difficult in the first few pages, it's because the game didn't all exit RVS at the same time

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:19 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:07 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:11 am [VOTE: Bereft] aubergine
@Seanzie was the vote on Bereft because Bereft said

Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:09 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:03 am @Bereft what's ur read on me
My read is that you are impatient.
this about your wolfread, lucy??
I don't know why I didn't see this before. No, it was this post:

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:49 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:29 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:26 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:45 pm wigly ur so active, why aren't you with your boyfriend tonight or something?
LMAO ok lucy town

i was cautious about giving u a tr out of respect for u queen but i think ur town
epic, in pre game i discussed the list w mac and ur one of the best villas (with terrible games too), i'll treat you as town today cause i'd never lynch u d1 in this list, ever
This post could have been written without the information that you discussed the playerlist with Mac pregame and we would have lost nothing. So I'm curious, what exactly did Mac contribute and what other tea do you have to spill.
the focus on Lucy mentioning Mac didn't sit well with me. They're saying Mac is irrelevant, but then questioning Lucy further about Mac. Feels less like they're trying to read Lucy and more like they're just trying to look like they're doing something.

Is this read deterministic of Lucy's alignment?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:00 pm @lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu

Lucy: No immediate reason to scumread, however of the high posters is the one I see more likely to be a wolf. Tentatively a "time will tell" read

Wilgy: Glorious Golden Doctor

Cape: Again, nothing immediate to see here in terms of scum equity. I do think Cape feels the most "open to posting " which is generally town AI indicative.

Neon: I need to see reads from this slot that are somewhat sensible soon.

Tutuu: Towny behavior all end all. Pro town in terms of momentum.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:06 am Enter wilgy, 4/4

Wazzup dude?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:11 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:10 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:00 pm @lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu
Lucy: No immediate reason to scumread, however of the high posters is the one I see more likely to be a wolf. Tentatively a "time will tell" read

Wilgy: Glorious Golden Doctor

Cape: Again, nothing immediate to see here in terms of scum equity. I do think Cape feels the most "open to posting " which is generally town AI indicative.

Neon: I need to see reads from this slot that are somewhat sensible soon.

Tutuu: Towny behavior all end all. Pro town in terms of momentum.
oof, wrong answer Dr

Why is this? Or will I see during catch-up?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:12 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:10 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:06 am Enter wilgy, 4/4
Wazzup dude?
Look at this. Look at this professional entrance. Now this. Is glorious wolfing. A+

I am just accusing you of being a wolf. Thats all, how you?

Just sleepy, but wanted to get updated on the game before bed.

UFC was good tonight.

Why am I wolf this time?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:25 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:00 pm @lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu
lucy: I played against scum lucy in Holes mafia, lucy has no wim in that game tho, and I didn't get the impression that scum lucy is normally without wim. however, I'm liking these lucy vibes. tr

wilgy: I cannot read wilgy (atm?) and would rather abstain from commenting on wilgy. tbh I'm gonna unvote wilgy so that's clear since my wilgy vote was a joke anyway

cape: I think I've watched cape get D1'd as town twice now, which would be really funny if it weren't so sad. seems like the same cape that got pushed over those times. tr

neon: I hate the "I'm booooooooooooored" posts. I also hate when Sabi makes them. equally opportunity hating from me. but they're NAI _atm_ for Neon imo. otoh scum neon was with scum lucy in Holes mafia and I got to see that too...so, neon neutral, leaning town

tutuu: self-indulgent to include yourself in this question. neutral, but hard read you're the rolestopper in case I'm right and can claim town credit later

So effectively town, null, town, null slight town and null?

I'm not bashing it, but it is somewhat jarring to have a read list like this out of you so early Pyxxy.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:44 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:33 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:13 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:09 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:05 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 am i was going to vote with my queen lucy but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too it would break my heart to vote him for now so ill vote with cape

(i just clicked on the poll to vote for whoever he's voting and i literally forgot who it is as im writing this but it doesnt matter)
hm? when have I made an impression on you?
are u saying that u perceived my post as me townreading u?
no?

"but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too"

why do you really like me? what makes me the twinkle in your eye? I made like 5 posts or smth at that point, like am I forgetting secretplayerlist interactions or smth?
Also if we think that what I did was wolfy, I might extend an olive branch to these series of posts that seem to ramble on about tutuu calling pyxxy enjoyable to play with when pyxxy acts like tutuu is solely talking just about this game and tries to make a read off tutuu off this interaction when tutuu was talking in general.

It's not scummy but im just saying
....what??

I'm doing the exact opposite, I'm asking about tutuu's opinion of me since it seems to be founded on things outside this game!!!!!!

cape town wtf

Why did this elicit a tr?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: Bereft] aubergine for voting cape @Bereft

This would imply that there was 3 on Bereft and me at the point of this vote correct?

The three on me were Falcon, Pyxxy and Neon.

The three on Bereft are Me, Seanzie and Tutuu.

This post may be needed later in case Bereft or I flip as there may be wolves here.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:04 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:21 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:05 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:02 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:37 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:10 pm

I summon another face down monster in defense position
*Dammit dammit dammit, Neon keeps countering me at every turn... I know... They'll never expect this!*

I summon beaver warrior and pass my turn!
I place toon world on the field sacrifice s face down to summon Toon Dark Magician Girl and use her ability to attack your life points directly

*evil laugh*
*Oh no, how could this happen! My deck of 37 Beaver Warrior and 3 Call of the Haunted should be unbeatable, but I can't get over Neon's Toon Dark Magician Girl's low cut shirt...*

But maybe....

I turn my 5 beaver warriors to defense mode and pass.
I sacrifice my other 2 face down monsters and summon a toon red eyes black dragon than attack your life points directly with both my toon monsters and their effects
*Augh!!*

Damn.... Only 1600 life points remaining....

Though...

Alright, I use two of my Beaver Warriors to XYZ summon Number 101: Silent Honor Arc. Then by detaching both material from Silent Honor Arc I can attach one of your monsters to Silent Honor Arc as material. I choose your red eyes toon dragon!

Then I'll play a beaver warrior and end my turn.
Harmful and dangerous and technically i have no idea how that interaction works for the effects of my toon monsters effects

But I summon toon goblin attack force and use the effects of my toon monsters to attack your life points directly...I think.

Damn... I lost. Good duel Neon. Here's your prize :

Spoiler: show

It's my favorite card. I hope you treasure it as much as I do.

I've gotten to Rondo entering the thread.

Cape and Falcon are quite solidly the town core atm.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:10 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:00 pm @lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu
Lucy: No immediate reason to scumread, however of the high posters is the one I see more likely to be a wolf. Tentatively a "time will tell" read

Wilgy: Glorious Golden Doctor

Cape: Again, nothing immediate to see here in terms of scum equity. I do think Cape feels the most "open to posting " which is generally town AI indicative.

Neon: I need to see reads from this slot that are somewhat sensible soon.

Tutuu: Towny behavior all end all. Pro town in terms of momentum.
Imagine thinking Neon does sensible reads D1

I've seen it before fam

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:13 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:10 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:08 am it is disgustingly bad

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:08 am always one in syn/rondo

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:09 am rondo not finding me/tutuu/cape town is borderline outing
Interesting, keep it coming you are the one I am most confident on. I have receipts to back it up later so keep spewing
i can't tell whether or not you're joking

Why is it a bad list though?

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:16 am
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:13 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:04 am ok I lied about the above, now that lucy is gone (lets be honest she is still watching

Spoiler: show
@Neon
@Bereft
@pyxxy
@Syn
@falcon45ca
@Seanzie
@Porscha
@Le petit poussin
@Sheep
This is also strangely discrediting of the list without data to back up the discredit.
Ordered List
Just town
NANOOKTHEDIMANDBUCKLE - you decide (town)
Neon - town
Bereft - town
pyxxy - town
Syn - town
falcon45ca - town
Seanzie - town - If I could be wrong on one town its Seanzie but you know we will see

Leaning Town

Porscha - Town /
Le petit poussin - town /
Sheep - town /

Scum - one of these are wrong but I will not protect any of them.

Cape90 - scum
DrWilgy - scum
tutuu - scum
lucy - scum

Lucy/tutuu > Tutuu/Lucy > Cape90 > Wilgy > Sheep > LPP > Porscha > Seanzie - wins the game
why was i mentioned for this
Aside fro
I mean I congratulate you if you did manage to solve the game in 500 posts but also I don't really care these reads are going to change by EoD.

Ah, fug.

This is also strangely discrediting of the list without data to back up the discredit.

Was supposed to be under that.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:23 am i dunno whether this is town/scum rondo. on one hand he's egregiously wrong and just doesn't have an argument with 3 guaranteed voters on me falcon/syn/bereft (self pres). on the other he hasn't been able to find me and cape's been obvious town. but i don't know if he'd do this as wolf because it's just so dangerous

It's town Rondo clearly.

The red list without explanation was just bait and I think you've chomped down tbh.

Rondo does that, he fishes. Often if Rondo is town it'll create momentum and if not it'll just get stagnant. This clearly made some momentum lol.

Hell Rondo could've taken the top 4 posters at the time and just saic they were the wolves to see what'd happen. I'm not entirely sure why you jump to thinking like the above instead of asking for more data.

So thoughts.

Two pages left.

Rondo is town and Lucy doesn't look good in the interaction.

I feel slightly better about Bereft, but I'd say it's kinda 50/50. I do however feel worse about Syn. I see Syn agreeing with Rondo's list without really anything. Just kinda "yeah this seems right" without any why. If Lucy flips scum I could probably yeet sheep behind them. Their reaction was also less than stellar.

Rondo, did how Cape interfaced with you following your list actually give you a read on the slot or are you just jabbing that one?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:00 am some more things on DrWigly

► Show Spoiler
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:24 pm good to know syn is a useless townie
thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
Uh... okay? And you didn't just... say something ealrier?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:24 pm good to know syn is a useless townie
thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
why would I interact with a reads list posted less than 2 hours after the game started
Cape did, so did Lucy.
fine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:19 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:17 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:16 pm [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine serious vote
it's taking restraint to not attack you personally
Lucy's a wolf.
Y tho
Vanilla question. DrWigly repeats this when I am suspected by falcon

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:50 pm I AM TOWN!

I dare do all that may become a man; who dares do more is none
What do you think of my readlist?

Also add to that list

Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T
this is still a strange list here

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:50 pm I AM TOWN!

I dare do all that may become a man; who dares do more is none
What do you think of my readlist?

Also add to that list

Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T
How on Earth do you have a reads list?
Mostly TMI and LHF
haha funny openwolf joke haha

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:15 pm Also, Cape is Maf
Why tho

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:01 pm Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:02 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine
towny for wilgy?
Not really. I could reproduce as scum easily.
another funny haha openwolf joke or perhaps "joke"

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:33 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:50 pm I AM TOWN!

I dare do all that may become a man; who dares do more is none
i dont believe there are any falcon readers in this game so this might be a problem
No, I believe it.
what?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:34 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:09 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:03 am @Bereft what's ur read on me
My read is that you are impatient.
[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine
Meh, I could see it as a procrastination thing but I think this reaction is a bit much

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:35 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:37 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:50 pm I AM TOWN!

I dare do all that may become a man; who dares do more is none
What do you think of my readlist?

Also add to that list

Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T
i personally dont get the townreads you are getting off those ppl tbh
Berefts has been revoked.
With this.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:49 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:42 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:15 pm Also, Cape is Maf
I don't get any of your reads and you appear towny this game

oh boy
Have I given many reads? Or really any beyond my read on you?
Yeah, kinda weird plurality cape. Makes it seem like an attempt at shade.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:40 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:53 am I believe that the game is going fine so far. Pretty standard, normal, game of mafia. At least 1 wolf has posted so far, and I know who it is. (Not falcon)
This is a very good take.
okay

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:43 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:04 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:02 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:59 am Cape90, Syn, pyxxy, falcon45ca, Neon

1-2 wolves
do you wolfread syn for his answer to your reaction test?
no, i just don't tr him, and i don't actually tr u

pyxxy/falcon/neon are all impossible to read
Idk, Falcon and Neon always are pretty straight forward to me.
meta sure

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:51 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:24 am The Set up is a lie. We are all doc.

Inb4 doc heals a wolf and dies N1
Aye, honestly this line of thinking makes me think wolfs would be inclined to try ars this game.
try what this game?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:57 pm Ok, I've caught up.

I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.
alright on the first point about bereft. Saying Seanzie is baiting with the votes seems like a stretch but even if so, not sure what makes it a red flag

Yo I'm blind

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:49 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:47 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:23 am i dunno whether this is town/scum rondo. on one hand he's egregiously wrong and just doesn't have an argument with 3 guaranteed voters on me falcon/syn/bereft (self pres). on the other he hasn't been able to find me and cape's been obvious town. but i don't know if he'd do this as wolf because it's just so dangerous
It's town Rondo clearly.

The red list without explanation was just bait and I think you've chomped down tbh.

Rondo does that, he fishes. Often if Rondo is town it'll create momentum and if not it'll just get stagnant. This clearly made some momentum lol.

Hell Rondo could've taken the top 4 posters at the time and just saic they were the wolves to see what'd happen. I'm not entirely sure why you jump to thinking like the above instead of asking for more data.

Hehehehehe

Hahaha, you goomba

I'm caught up.

Rondo, you don't have an actual read on me do you?

So Syn/Lucy feels like a dif check as it stands.

If one of the Reds in Rondo's list flips wolf, shoot Sheep for another pelt.

Pyxxy feels weird (no context to the Rondo blamble) just a general vibe.

I don't think Tutuu is W in spite of potential associations with Lucy as it stands. I think they still have pro town momentum and can legitimately see some of the more recent Tutuu comments towards Lucy coming from a place of not desiring Lucy to be having a bad time... Which I get no one should have a bad time playing fun games with friends.

Tutuu still very much fits in the "time will tell, town for now" bucket.

Falcon, Cape, Rondo are town core.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:15 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:28 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:04 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:21 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:05 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:02 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:54 pm

I place toon world on the field sacrifice s face down to summon Toon Dark Magician Girl and use her ability to attack your life points directly

*evil laugh*
*Oh no, how could this happen! My deck of 37 Beaver Warrior and 3 Call of the Haunted should be unbeatable, but I can't get over Neon's Toon Dark Magician Girl's low cut shirt...*

But maybe....

I turn my 5 beaver warriors to defense mode and pass.
I sacrifice my other 2 face down monsters and summon a toon red eyes black dragon than attack your life points directly with both my toon monsters and their effects
*Augh!!*

Damn.... Only 1600 life points remaining....

Though...

Alright, I use two of my Beaver Warriors to XYZ summon Number 101: Silent Honor Arc. Then by detaching both material from Silent Honor Arc I can attach one of your monsters to Silent Honor Arc as material. I choose your red eyes toon dragon!

Then I'll play a beaver warrior and end my turn.
Harmful and dangerous and technically i have no idea how that interaction works for the effects of my toon monsters effects

But I summon toon goblin attack force and use the effects of my toon monsters to attack your life points directly...I think.
Damn... I lost. Good duel Neon. Here's your prize :
Spoiler: show
It's my favorite card. I hope you treasure it as much as I do.
They finally unbanned my favorite card after like 20 years it was the best day ever for me I've missed using it since I started playing competition

Concern in Yata Garasu?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:17 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:03 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:49 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:47 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:23 am i dunno whether this is town/scum rondo. on one hand he's egregiously wrong and just doesn't have an argument with 3 guaranteed voters on me falcon/syn/bereft (self pres). on the other he hasn't been able to find me and cape's been obvious town. but i don't know if he'd do this as wolf because it's just so dangerous
It's town Rondo clearly.

The red list without explanation was just bait and I think you've chomped down tbh.

Rondo does that, he fishes. Often if Rondo is town it'll create momentum and if not it'll just get stagnant. This clearly made some momentum lol.

Hell Rondo could've taken the top 4 posters at the time and just saic they were the wolves to see what'd happen. I'm not entirely sure why you jump to thinking like the above instead of asking for more data.

Hehehehehe
Hahaha, you goomba
I wouldnt say I picked the 4 highest posters. I did do my due diligence. I am accusing people I believe are wolves with high interaction rates. Lucy and Tutuu are the worst offenders you and cape are the second most. I can only follow my POE from there. So if this is a soft discredit for tomorrow when I am dead good try no dice. If you are just revelling with me at Lucy biting. yeahhhh boiii

If you had to pick wolves with low interaction rates, who then?

I can see the some of the process on the reaction, but it's somewhat obscure still. Perhaps that's why I'm not SRing Tutuu and you are?

I think Cape just had some really good posts that indicated town critical thinking. It was in regard to Porscha I think I'd have to go find it.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:24 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:22 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:17 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:03 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:49 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:47 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:23 am i dunno whether this is town/scum rondo. on one hand he's egregiously wrong and just doesn't have an argument with 3 guaranteed voters on me falcon/syn/bereft (self pres). on the other he hasn't been able to find me and cape's been obvious town. but i don't know if he'd do this as wolf because it's just so dangerous
It's town Rondo clearly.

The red list without explanation was just bait and I think you've chomped down tbh.

Rondo does that, he fishes. Often if Rondo is town it'll create momentum and if not it'll just get stagnant. This clearly made some momentum lol.

Hell Rondo could've taken the top 4 posters at the time and just saic they were the wolves to see what'd happen. I'm not entirely sure why you jump to thinking like the above instead of asking for more data.

Hehehehehe
Hahaha, you goomba
I wouldnt say I picked the 4 highest posters. I did do my due diligence. I am accusing people I believe are wolves with high interaction rates. Lucy and Tutuu are the worst offenders you and cape are the second most. I can only follow my POE from there. So if this is a soft discredit for tomorrow when I am dead good try no dice. If you are just revelling with me at Lucy biting. yeahhhh boiii
If you had to pick wolves with low interaction rates, who then?

I can see the some of the process on the reaction, but it's somewhat obscure still. Perhaps that's why I'm not SRing Tutuu and you are?
You sure are a wily one Wilgy. I knew it would be hardest to pin you down.

I mean at least buy me a drink first.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:08 pm Porscha hasn't done too much this game but I have thoughts on the falcon thing

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:29 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:28 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:27 am Gathered very little from it
do u have a read on me/falcon
Meh gth you're both town for now
Porscha makes this read on lucy and falcon

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:37 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:33 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:30 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:28 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:27 am Gathered very little from it
do u have a read on me/falcon
Why did you ask specifically about yourself and falcon
i’m interested about your perception of me in particular, i can’t read falcon to save my life and u said u could
I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh
And why interested in my perception of you
Then Porscha randomly says they disagree with me that falcon has done anything AI.
This leads me to believe that Porscha sheeped my read or that my read at least had influence in Porscha saying she had gth called falcon town despite saying he has done nothing that is alignment indicative.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:34 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:13 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:37 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:33 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:30 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:28 am

do u have a read on me/falcon
Why did you ask specifically about yourself and falcon
i’m interested about your perception of me in particular, i can’t read falcon to save my life and u said u could
I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh
And why interested in my perception of you
So did you townread falcon just because you townread me?
The best way to explain it would be to say... there is 1-100 in my head. Everyone starts at 50 until I see some ai content. If someone is sitting at 50, which I pretty much consider neutral, they can have gth day 1 tr by posting and hitting 51 instead of 50
But when I asked about this, it kinda just left me with more questions.
Like okay so did for instance falcon's push on me tip the scales for Porscha into town territory? What post made it happen?
Porscha quite literally is in contradiction with what they just said with
I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh
so like

This one.

I read this and kinda think it'd be hard for Mafia to make a post like this, but also not end it with a stance. It's both thinking and showing evidence of middling shit that town just does.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:24 pm good to know syn is a useless townie
thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
You noticed what?
@DrWilgy

Behavior indicative of not solving.

At that point I had felt that I had given the thread at least something in the form of a bullshit reads list. Several tried to interface with it so it was odd when Syn didn't.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:29 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:08 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:05 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:00 am some more things on DrWigly

Spoiler: show
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm

thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
Uh... okay? And you didn't just... say something ealrier?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm

I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
why would I interact with a reads list posted less than 2 hours after the game started
Cape did, so did Lucy.
fine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:19 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:17 pm

it's taking restraint to not attack you personally
Lucy's a wolf.
Y tho
Vanilla question. DrWigly repeats this when I am suspected by falcon

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:50 pm I AM TOWN!

I dare do all that may become a man; who dares do more is none
What do you think of my readlist?

Also add to that list

Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T
this is still a strange list here

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:58 pm

What do you think of my readlist?

Also add to that list

Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T
How on Earth do you have a reads list?
Mostly TMI and LHF
haha funny openwolf joke haha

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:15 pm Also, Cape is Maf
Why tho

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:22 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:01 pm Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:02 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine
towny for wilgy?
Not really. I could reproduce as scum easily.
another funny haha openwolf joke or perhaps "joke"

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:33 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:50 pm I AM TOWN!

I dare do all that may become a man; who dares do more is none
i dont believe there are any falcon readers in this game so this might be a problem
No, I believe it.
what?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:34 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:09 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:03 am @Bereft what's ur read on me
My read is that you are impatient.
[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine
Meh, I could see it as a procrastination thing but I think this reaction is a bit much

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:35 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:37 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:58 pm

What do you think of my readlist?

Also add to that list

Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T
i personally dont get the townreads you are getting off those ppl tbh
Berefts has been revoked.
With this.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:49 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:42 am

I don't get any of your reads and you appear towny this game

oh boy
Have I given many reads? Or really any beyond my read on you?
Yeah, kinda weird plurality cape. Makes it seem like an attempt at shade.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:40 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:53 am I believe that the game is going fine so far. Pretty standard, normal, game of mafia. At least 1 wolf has posted so far, and I know who it is. (Not falcon)
This is a very good take.
okay

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:43 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:04 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:02 am

do you wolfread syn for his answer to your reaction test?
no, i just don't tr him, and i don't actually tr u

pyxxy/falcon/neon are all impossible to read
Idk, Falcon and Neon always are pretty straight forward to me.
meta sure

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:51 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:24 am The Set up is a lie. We are all doc.

Inb4 doc heals a wolf and dies N1
Aye, honestly this line of thinking makes me think wolfs would be inclined to try ars this game.
try what this game?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:57 pm Ok, I've caught up.

I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.
alright on the first point about bereft. Saying Seanzie is baiting with the votes seems like a stretch but even if so, not sure what makes it a red flag

i forgot i could just do this but EBWOP
This does nothing for me (what do u think about each posts). Give me a read and the reason behind it pls?
I will elaborate on some of them as some others I just do not have more to say on

1) Wigly called me/lucy free town very early on into the game and when lucy and I received scumreads from anyone (being Seanzie and falcon respectively) Wigly always asked the same question of why. I am not sure I get a lot out of it, but I could see it being scummy since Wigly is simply asking why and not following that up with... white kngihting per se, like as in reasons why both me and lucy are town and why we were static town. But I also get that not a lot has happened between then and now.

2) Wigly's shade on Syn has felt a bit odd when he was also townreading Syn from earlier, it is noted that dropped off later. He seemed pretty fixated on Syn in early game and i have noted that.

3) Okay I get the second thing I said was openwolfing literally just wasn't but it was more of something I would associate with what a wolf would say there. The TMI and LHF post was fairly odd to me.

4) Didn't respond to
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:49 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:42 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:15 pm Also, Cape is Maf
I don't get any of your reads and you appear towny this game

oh boy
Have I given many reads? Or really any beyond my read on you?
Yeah, kinda weird plurality cape. Makes it seem like an attempt at shade.
on accident, but I do get a queasy feeling about what Wigly has said here since I know I am town and I also townread falcon and I do this due to the push on me he had and how he rethinked that.

That's all I wanted to really add there. I think the post and the one before this at least cut out the fluff that Wigly has produced, which was the point as it is a bit distracting IMO when trying to parse a read on Wigly.

I think Wigly has been okay recently. At least his catch up post felt reasonable

1. I do like to make entry reads if I'm present for that phase of the game, they are normally quite squishy reads though. Very few times has an entry read stuck.

Asking for explanation is out of a pet peeve of mine that derives from "I shouldn't NEED to ask why or for an explanation of a read." Empty reads are mostly useless in nature and I don't like em.

2. See the post above. An early tell is to find who isn't solving. Syn had an opportunity to do so and I felt declined that.

3. Idk why, TMI and LHF are very much just normal aspects of a game.

4. Didn't respond because I felt there was no need to. It made the point moot if true and if you are covering your ass, then good job I believe it.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:40 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:36 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm

thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
You noticed what?
@DrWilgy
Behavior indicative of not solving.

At that point I had felt that I had given the thread at least something in the form of a bullshit reads list. Several tried to interface with it so it was odd when Syn didn't.
Why would he since it was obvious it was BS? I would question the folks who engaged with it lol. But you didn't and were happy to discuss it when it was obviously just rand or TMI.

Beside how is him posting a read about you and explaning it is not indicative of solving? Within the first 2 hours?

RVS has to be broken somehow. The behavior exhibited was contrary to that.

Did Syn do that? If so I have little recollection of it to the point where it may have been moot to me thus leaving me only a negative experience in mind.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:41 am rough rand Wilgy?

Not really. I am enjoying our discussion. Your read on me feels like it's not as developed as it should be, but I should allow time for that.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:48 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:41 am 3. Idk why, TMI and LHF are very much just normal aspects of a game.
i get the LHF thing, but if you were being srs about the TMI thing then what?

Then I'm wolf, duh.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:53 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:40 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:36 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm

i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
You noticed what?
@DrWilgy
Behavior indicative of not solving.

At that point I had felt that I had given the thread at least something in the form of a bullshit reads list. Several tried to interface with it so it was odd when Syn didn't.
Why would he since it was obvious it was BS? I would question the folks who engaged with it lol. But you didn't and were happy to discuss it when it was obviously just rand or TMI.

Beside how is him posting a read about you and explaning it is not indicative of solving? Within the first 2 hours?
your pocket is exactly syn shaped and I am here for it

Be careful Syn, that pocket is full of leftover friend chicken crumbs.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:00 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Wilgy undermining a good read by Syn in replying to a wolf buddy and not to syns original attack #66

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:18 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:17 pm wilgy is way too present to be town tbh
Heheheheheh implying I can be quantified in this manner.

imagine shading me for not reading smh

Oh shit. Syn did provide an earlier read on me that I forgot. I guess I ruled the read as "too meaningless" without realizing it could be a real read. Reading me on presence alone won't be my tell. It's very strictly a life stress vs time to play Mafia thing.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:03 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:58 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Wilgy entry not calling himself a doctor #45 not good
most ppl have opened up this game by not calling themselves doctor. Syn/lucy/me/pyxxy/seanzie/neon... etc. Not sure what point you are making here
this is mostly a joke and a trap for people to call out. Glad you did. Wilgy always enters and says he is a doctor, this game he did not. Not note worthy in and of itself but note worthy enough that he felt he didnt want to open that way. Almost like he wanted to live for a longer time or not have people ask "why are you not dead yet when you have claimed doctor"?????

Just previously I had said something about violence, this my entry felt correct to reference this even if it was just syo myself.

My entry used to follow hard coded laws like 7 years ago, but that has sinced changed. Feel free to check my other games, I think you'd find like 40% "Hello everyone, my name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor" 40% "Hello everyone, my name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely not a doctor." And the remainder to be missing or another equivalent shit post.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:06 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:17 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:15 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:28 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:04 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:21 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:05 am

I sacrifice my other 2 face down monsters and summon a toon red eyes black dragon than attack your life points directly with both my toon monsters and their effects
*Augh!!*

Damn.... Only 1600 life points remaining....

Though...

Alright, I use two of my Beaver Warriors to XYZ summon Number 101: Silent Honor Arc. Then by detaching both material from Silent Honor Arc I can attach one of your monsters to Silent Honor Arc as material. I choose your red eyes toon dragon!

Then I'll play a beaver warrior and end my turn.
Harmful and dangerous and technically i have no idea how that interaction works for the effects of my toon monsters effects

But I summon toon goblin attack force and use the effects of my toon monsters to attack your life points directly...I think.
Damn... I lost. Good duel Neon. Here's your prize :
Spoiler: show
It's my favorite card. I hope you treasure it as much as I do.
They finally unbanned my favorite card after like 20 years it was the best day ever for me I've missed using it since I started playing competition
Concern in Yata Garasu?

Spoiler: show

Ah that makes sense.

M'kay I should sleep now. I'm struggling to get some shit eye, but may need to put my phone down to do so.

Goodnight friends.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:02 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:05 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:19 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:07 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:11 am [VOTE: Bereft] aubergine
@Seanzie was the vote on Bereft because Bereft said

Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:09 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:03 am @Bereft what's ur read on me
My read is that you are impatient.
this about your wolfread, lucy??
I don't know why I didn't see this before. No, it was this post:

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:49 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:29 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:26 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:45 pm wigly ur so active, why aren't you with your boyfriend tonight or something?
LMAO ok lucy town

i was cautious about giving u a tr out of respect for u queen but i think ur town
epic, in pre game i discussed the list w mac and ur one of the best villas (with terrible games too), i'll treat you as town today cause i'd never lynch u d1 in this list, ever
This post could have been written without the information that you discussed the playerlist with Mac pregame and we would have lost nothing. So I'm curious, what exactly did Mac contribute and what other tea do you have to spill.
the focus on Lucy mentioning Mac didn't sit well with me. They're saying Mac is irrelevant, but then questioning Lucy further about Mac. Feels less like they're trying to read Lucy and more like they're just trying to look like they're doing something.
Is this read deterministic of Lucy's alignment?
No, but I'd gth Lucy town for other reasons.

What are these reasons?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:42 am hes a terribad player

not taking rondo seriously when i am just left confused by most of the points he made that are not...

"hey look this person townreads someone i dont like, they are scum"

I don't see why we gotta be like this. Rondo is a good player and analysis upon which he's built can be done in an AI manner and wrong/right genuine or not they add alot to the thread that I at least find fun and interesting.

As it stands I think Rondo is very "Pro Self Reads" and thus a headspace of being correct can't be broken in them. However, this implies that they are AI on the town side of things as they seem at least genuine in how absorbed in trusting their own reads they are.

If you disagree with Rondo's reads, we aren't at lylo yet so Rondo can vote wherever they please, snag the other pelts and break down their reads you disagree with.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:52 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:50 am Jesus christ I dont think I'm getting thru all 8 pages I'm behind on tonight I'll read and respond what I respond to
Hi Porscha talk to me about anything please...I literally don't care if it's game related or not

I'm up to this point.

Neon has convinced me that they are town until further notice.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:57 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:40 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:36 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm

i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
You noticed what?
@DrWilgy
Behavior indicative of not solving.

At that point I had felt that I had given the thread at least something in the form of a bullshit reads list. Several tried to interface with it so it was odd when Syn didn't.
Why would he since it was obvious it was BS? I would question the folks who engaged with it lol. But you didn't and were happy to discuss it when it was obviously just rand or TMI.

Beside how is him posting a read about you and explaning it is not indicative of solving? Within the first 2 hours?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:41 am rough rand Wilgy?
I like the point petit makes about Syn making a read on Wigly's presence to be technically Syn doing something solvy.

I question the colored part though as I am not sure why this automatically incriminates the people who have engaged with the readslist. It's interesting how Wigly calls it a bullshit readslist when it seems Wigly has held a townread on me

Aye, that one hasn't shifted too horribly.

My read on you has evolved like this :
Cape is causing movement In RVS, that's towny enough, also I really don't wanna yeet cape d1 again, it happens too much.

Cape stated some odd plurality, concern.

Cape said it was a misquote, ok.

Oh, Cape is actually thinking about the game critically, I've seen this from town cape before.

That's about it. It's a strong enough read I think to stand by it.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:09 am Sheep is extremely towny i must say

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:29 am I maintain that the bereft wagon is bad unless it's gotten better since last I checked

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:26 am Even without me my plan will win the game so I am pretty much going to no / low post d2 onwards

I should take a page out of your book and solve the game in the first 500 posts next time, never re-evaluating.

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:31 am ok
I'm just going to ignore Rondo and hope he dies. Have fun in your tunnel(s)!!
I think I will just quote these 3 posts for reference. I guarantee you Sheep would NEVER as mafia post that middle quote.

Feels off imo. I see sheep just chain discrediting the Rondo reads without much reason why.

Like there's critical analysis to be made here and that part was skipped it feels.

Is the middle being "un Mafia able" for sheep a meta thing?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:15 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:57 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:40 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:36 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm

I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
You noticed what?
@DrWilgy
Behavior indicative of not solving.

At that point I had felt that I had given the thread at least something in the form of a bullshit reads list. Several tried to interface with it so it was odd when Syn didn't.
Why would he since it was obvious it was BS? I would question the folks who engaged with it lol. But you didn't and were happy to discuss it when it was obviously just rand or TMI.

Beside how is him posting a read about you and explaning it is not indicative of solving? Within the first 2 hours?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:41 am rough rand Wilgy?
I like the point petit makes about Syn making a read on Wigly's presence to be technically Syn doing something solvy.

I question the colored part though as I am not sure why this automatically incriminates the people who have engaged with the readslist. It's interesting how Wigly calls it a bullshit readslist when it seems Wigly has held a townread on me
it doesn't necessarily, it's just the part I would look into. My point was that Wilgy's read wasn't based. Since it was obvious Syn had some solving going on at that point. It's not me locking Syn or whatever, it's just Wilgy's post doesn't make sense from someone guessing Syn, more from someone willing to push there. I want to read more about them though before making a call on the slot though.

I think I can understand this stance alittle. However I do think you put too much into "Wilgy has too much presence as town" as Syn solving.

It shows a presumed meta understanding, but could just as well have been an empty read as meta is a call to pattern recognition not critical thinking.

I suppose that's why I didn't put any weight to it and swiftly forgot about it.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:23 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:17 am Lucy also never self votes as town in this position she thunder domes me which is outing.
On one hand I've definitely watched her vote herself out for no reason other than being dramatic when she was town

But on the other hand it wasnt day 1 either
No I mean, the thread position she took if you look at it as a more strategy based game like chess is that I must be finding her town or I am wolf. If I am pushing her and not letting go ergo I must be wolf. if I am wolf and she is town she would not hesistate to thunderdome me. So she knows I am town and has let it leak by not thunderdoming me which is what Lucy SHOULD have done if she was town. The fact she will not shows she is wolf. (Coupled with a lot of other factors that I have also layed out)

Its less about what she has done and more about what she should have done for her position logically as town.

This is a stance I agree with.

I don't know if T Lucy comes to the immediate conclusion that Rondo must now be wolf and then doesn't go for the pelt if they genuinely believe in that.

I do think W Lucy loses motivation and vibe on a hard suspicion that they can't find a foothold to interact with.

This Rondo's case for T Lucy would be thunderdoming makes sense.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:25 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:01 pm Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:02 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine
towny for wilgy?
how? (like they have history with Neon or something?)

I think I questioned this when it happened, but I'm at the point where I think "if there was a pocket attempt, it was then".

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:30 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:25 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:01 pm Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:02 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine
towny for wilgy?
how? (like they have history with Neon or something?)
Wilgy has a history of murdering me accidentally when I'm town and have the entire solve at my finger tips

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:32 am I love you Wilgy

Ily too Neon, you are a genuine joy to play with.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:48 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:57 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 am DrWigly iso

► Show Spoiler
“Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W
(votes neon)”
Does this on page 1 and pushes neon because she wasn’t partaking in the sexual innuendo fest, which he partakes in himself, and because she was low energy (actually trying to solve and understand neon which is towny)
Laughs off syn shade
Is generally jokey, in line with the established game tone, idk whether it’s natural or intentionally trying to fit in
A bunch of card game posts with neon
And noticed the same thing about weird syn shade, supports my reasoning
Retorts to syn that 2 people have reacted to his readslist (keeping track)
Asks why seanzie thinks im a wolf, trying to understand seanzie
Adds “Also add to that list
Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T”
To his readlist
Is generally joking around and having a good time in the thread, seems natural and not stilted and not pushing an agenda
Responds to a falcon post and asks falcon why cape is scummy
Denies that an action is towny for wigly (very rand scumy)
Bereft calls me impatient and he votes bereft and declines his tr on bereft
“I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.”
More reads, drops syn from his townreads (townie fmpov)
Asks if a seanzie read is reliant on what i flip
Posts sensible reads on me/cape/neon/tutuu which i generally agree with
Questions why pyxxy tr’s cape for what wigly finds as nai (townie and trying to understand reads)
Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview
cape/falcon towncore, i don’t understand falcon but i never have, hard agree with cape
Rondo town/i’m scum and thinks sheep looks bad from the interactions (lacks tmi because he knows i would flip town and he would openly pre push sheep and he gave no justification for that read, rings townie because usually wolves add reasoning to those reads so they don’t forget)
Adds falcon/cape/rondo to towncore and explains general stuff happening during the game and what rondo has been doing, me/syn being a difference check (good read, i’d have done the same as someone not in this mess)
Tries to understand rondo further and townreads cape openly with reasoning in the thread, i strongly believe cape is town so him adding someone else to generally consensus town who is lhf is very pro town
Points out how syn isn’t solving (correct)

townread btw
I will admit that I have a personal problem ever trusting wilgy but I've already had that feeling I had the 1 time I caught him wolfing where its ... it's the sinking feeling that I'm gonna have to take him out back the shed

Like I could be wrong here

And I'm unsure I can put it into words rn

Day 2 I can get on my comp and sit there and force myself to articulate about specific posts or patterns but that wont happen by day 1 due to my time constraints

Would this be a gut fear read on me Porscha?

Your feeling is one that I recall you having in Hott Fuzz where I went out of my way to pocket you. Am I doing the same here or something resembling that?

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:48 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:57 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 am DrWigly iso

► Show Spoiler
“Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W
(votes neon)”
Does this on page 1 and pushes neon because she wasn’t partaking in the sexual innuendo fest, which he partakes in himself, and because she was low energy (actually trying to solve and understand neon which is towny)
Laughs off syn shade
Is generally jokey, in line with the established game tone, idk whether it’s natural or intentionally trying to fit in
A bunch of card game posts with neon
And noticed the same thing about weird syn shade, supports my reasoning
Retorts to syn that 2 people have reacted to his readslist (keeping track)
Asks why seanzie thinks im a wolf, trying to understand seanzie
Adds “Also add to that list
Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T”
To his readlist
Is generally joking around and having a good time in the thread, seems natural and not stilted and not pushing an agenda
Responds to a falcon post and asks falcon why cape is scummy
Denies that an action is towny for wigly (very rand scumy)
Bereft calls me impatient and he votes bereft and declines his tr on bereft
“I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.”
More reads, drops syn from his townreads (townie fmpov)
Asks if a seanzie read is reliant on what i flip
Posts sensible reads on me/cape/neon/tutuu which i generally agree with
Questions why pyxxy tr’s cape for what wigly finds as nai (townie and trying to understand reads)
Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview
cape/falcon towncore, i don’t understand falcon but i never have, hard agree with cape
Rondo town/i’m scum and thinks sheep looks bad from the interactions (lacks tmi because he knows i would flip town and he would openly pre push sheep and he gave no justification for that read, rings townie because usually wolves add reasoning to those reads so they don’t forget)
Adds falcon/cape/rondo to towncore and explains general stuff happening during the game and what rondo has been doing, me/syn being a difference check (good read, i’d have done the same as someone not in this mess)
Tries to understand rondo further and townreads cape openly with reasoning in the thread, i strongly believe cape is town so him adding someone else to generally consensus town who is lhf is very pro town
Points out how syn isn’t solving (correct)

townread btw
I will admit that I have a personal problem ever trusting wilgy but I've already had that feeling I had the 1 time I caught him wolfing where its ... it's the sinking feeling that I'm gonna have to take him out back the shed

Like I could be wrong here

And I'm unsure I can put it into words rn

Day 2 I can get on my comp and sit there and force myself to articulate about specific posts or patterns but that wont happen by day 1 due to my time constraints
But also there was no reason for wilgy to tr me that early
Cape pointed out wilgy called it a fake reads list but seemed to maintain his read in cape as if it was real
I liked the pushback from lpp on wilgy on this page where I responded it was hot
But maybe I'm already confbiasing myself I'll try to keep my mind open but I love wilgy too much that it clouds my ability to see clearly 👁👁 so I am never feeling good about trusting myself when reading him

🫦

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:02 am Falcon's town btw.

We have come to an accord

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