The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:49 pm Max feels like he stopped trying midway yesterday and hasn’t started trying again, right? It’s not just me?

I mean. Seems kinda obvious that he went full tilt.

Do we expect tilted Mac to continue in the same fashion?

No but I’m getting more waffley because I’m fucking lost and Mac is getting more confident with less reasoning?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:49 pm Max feels like he stopped trying midway yesterday and hasn’t started trying again, right? It’s not just me?

I mean. Seems kinda obvious that he went full tilt.

Do we expect tilted Mac to continue in the same fashion?

No but I’m getting more waffley because I’m fucking lost and Mac is getting more confident with less reasoning?

This is a weak shade.

Idk why you brought attention to it if you are just waffling without mentioning that being case.

I said it because it’s a thought on my head.

You think wolf Jack’s easiest misyeet atp is Macdougall? Like say what you mean. What do you think is happening here with my posts?

Yes actually. W! Jack could easily identify that Seanzie VS Mac that's currently going on enables momentum towards either side.

I asked you as I didn't find your intention that of hunting for data on Mac, rather just shading.

I believed this to be implied, forgive me.

Oh, I just wanted you to say it so I could say “I don’t think you really think that” and you’re not allowed to call me defensive.

Get rekt, fuzz ball.

Got me

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:05 pm Here’s another real thought.

Town Creature will complain about how we’re screwed on D1. It’s D4 with no wolf deaths. Why is he not bitching up a storm?

I've observed this one as well and agree.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:49 pm Max feels like he stopped trying midway yesterday and hasn’t started trying again, right? It’s not just me?

I mean. Seems kinda obvious that he went full tilt.

Do we expect tilted Mac to continue in the same fashion?

No but I’m getting more waffley because I’m fucking lost and Mac is getting more confident with less reasoning?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:49 pm Max feels like he stopped trying midway yesterday and hasn’t started trying again, right? It’s not just me?

I mean. Seems kinda obvious that he went full tilt.

Do we expect tilted Mac to continue in the same fashion?

No but I’m getting more waffley because I’m fucking lost and Mac is getting more confident with less reasoning?

This is a weak shade.

Idk why you brought attention to it if you are just waffling without mentioning that being case.

I said it because it’s a thought on my head.

You think wolf Jack’s easiest misyeet atp is Macdougall? Like say what you mean. What do you think is happening here with my posts?

Yes actually. W! Jack could easily identify that Seanzie VS Mac that's currently going on enables momentum towards either side.

I asked you as I didn't find your intention that of hunting for data on Mac, rather just shading.

I believed this to be implied, forgive me.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:56 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:53 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:51 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:44 pm OK reveal is over.

I still think creature is wolf.

One in mac/seanzie is a wolf.

Spf might be wolf because she keeps posting wall posts.

Ig the others are jack and maybe wiggles?

Wiggles doesn't seem hype or full of wim. When I wolfed with him he was miserable. He sounds miserable this game.

I miserable for other reasons this game.

But yes I like this analysis. I don't like wolfing in spite of my performance.

Why one in Mac/Seanzie?

From my pov since d3 they both have been steering the thread in different directions.

They also haven't found each other as town (except when Mac has been wolf) which they usually do so like one has to be scum but idk who.

So you've given like... Slight WR on Creature, Jack, Me and SPF.

A dif check in Mac/Seanzie

How are your other suspicions impacted by the dif check possibilities?

Uh there's a difference check on jack/creature that I have wavering about because their dynamic together doesn't read w/w but also idk it could be theater.

Honestly idk, I am just trying to throw all my scumreads in a soup and kinda hope it makes sense in terms of dynamics but five member wolf teams are just hard to make sense of dynamics wise

True enough. You feel very waffley in that statement re Jack/Creature but it's weird because it's in the context of "I could be wrong about two wolves" Shouldn't a dif check be slightly more confident?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:47 pm Can people just ask me questions because I feel like people are talking about me but never engaging with me.

Hard for me fam as I think you are basically townfirmed based on Kate.

Also why is SPF wallposting wolf indicative?

Because I dealt with wolf spf twice in games (and specced/hosted her numerous times).

Someone on hydra game said something about her views in the game being polarized as wolf. Or something like that.

This at least reassures some minor suspicion that has been suggested at this point?

Have you/can you ISO SPF and let me know what you think?

Like, why ask it in the way you did unless it was purposely to make others think Mac in a negative light FOR you?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:49 pm Max feels like he stopped trying midway yesterday and hasn’t started trying again, right? It’s not just me?

I mean. Seems kinda obvious that he went full tilt.

Do we expect tilted Mac to continue in the same fashion?

No but I’m getting more waffley because I’m fucking lost and Mac is getting more confident with less reasoning?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:49 pm Max feels like he stopped trying midway yesterday and hasn’t started trying again, right? It’s not just me?

I mean. Seems kinda obvious that he went full tilt.

Do we expect tilted Mac to continue in the same fashion?

No but I’m getting more waffley because I’m fucking lost and Mac is getting more confident with less reasoning?

This is a weak shade.

Idk why you brought attention to it if you are just waffling without mentioning that being case.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:53 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:51 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:44 pm OK reveal is over.

I still think creature is wolf.

One in mac/seanzie is a wolf.

Spf might be wolf because she keeps posting wall posts.

Ig the others are jack and maybe wiggles?

Wiggles doesn't seem hype or full of wim. When I wolfed with him he was miserable. He sounds miserable this game.

I miserable for other reasons this game.

But yes I like this analysis. I don't like wolfing in spite of my performance.

Why one in Mac/Seanzie?

From my pov since d3 they both have been steering the thread in different directions.

They also haven't found each other as town (except when Mac has been wolf) which they usually do so like one has to be scum but idk who.

So you've given like... Slight WR on Creature, Jack, Me and SPF.

A dif check in Mac/Seanzie

How are your other suspicions impacted by the dif check possibilities?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:52 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine

Still think this is bad dood.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:49 pm Max feels like he stopped trying midway yesterday and hasn’t started trying again, right? It’s not just me?

I mean. Seems kinda obvious that he went full tilt.

Do we expect tilted Mac to continue in the same fashion?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:47 pm Can people just ask me questions because I feel like people are talking about me but never engaging with me.

Hard for me fam as I think you are basically townfirmed based on Kate.

Also why is SPF wallposting wolf indicative?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:44 pm OK reveal is over.

I still think creature is wolf.

One in mac/seanzie is a wolf.

Spf might be wolf because she keeps posting wall posts.

Ig the others are jack and maybe wiggles?

Wiggles doesn't seem hype or full of wim. When I wolfed with him he was miserable. He sounds miserable this game.

I miserable for other reasons this game.

But yes I like this analysis. I don't like wolfing in spite of my performance.

Why one in Mac/Seanzie?

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:27 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:24 pm How is tutuu being a wolf ignored in all of this.

In what world is tutuu being ignored?

By Wilgy et. al

The Mac/SPF/Bereft thing is getting pretty old. We're not the only deepwolf candidates in the game.

I agree. Catching the deep wolf at this gamestate feels very risky to potential vocal town.

I think I'd just get the town fighting enablist slanker teammates.

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:24 pm How is tutuu being a wolf ignored in all of this.

Is it being ignored?

It's definitely a possibility, but I think it's a gamble I'd be very shaky on.

Tutuu's conviction towards alot of slots could very much be TMI.

The thing that may support this is that all of the slots Tutuu wrs are what I'd think are very *safe* and apply to people that are 1 unfamiliar or 2 often misread.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:19 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:02 pm Kinda want to say Seanzie is my ride or die but I havent seen him as wolf so I will just say town for now

Does Seanzie allow a Rondo NK with a post like this out there?

I don't think so unless Rondo was 100% all in as a teammate.

There are 5 wolves, so no one wolf is going to have a strong veto on NK because of a D1 post. There are better reasons to townread me than this.

Some of the ISO's being fucky if you don't go through the "replies" buttons have me all bugged up here. I was thinking this was a more recent post and was trying to understand.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:02 pm Kinda want to say Seanzie is my ride or die but I havent seen him as wolf so I will just say town for now

Does Seanzie allow a Rondo NK with a post like this out there?

I don't think so unless Rondo was 100% all in as a teammate.

like. Sig could've voted Creature.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:49 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:15 pm changed my mind overnight and dont think sig is mafia anymore. i think sabi/creature/jack contains at least 2.

think the game is being deepwolfed by probably exactly tutuu/one other player but im interested in just voting out a wolf today regardless of anything else

what wonderful means changed your mind?

mostly that im not sure sig would wear his TMI that roxy was going to flip town so brazenly yesterday, and the way he has consistently come off as being jaded and betrayed by the game feels like a nearly identical perspective to the one that roxy projected at the end of yesterday. roxy and sig were linked in my mind in a number of ways and roxy flipping town increased the chances that sig is town too for a number of reasons

it is possible that im clearing sig too easily but yeah

I honestly think the opposite. Sig would very much be like 'wow I was right' as any alignment. I do really think the argument more is the difference between vehemently opposing the Roxy wagon vs letting it be while still ending on the correct side of history.

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:06 pm Sig has been going against the grain by ... shouting at everyone to not follow Alsion's legacy. Did you notice that one?

Aye, but I don't think he actually carried any momentum into that.

If Sig really wanted to make a stink about it they could've.

Just easy enough to say one is right and go 'hey look I was right.' Don't that sound familiar?

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:00 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:35 pm Seanzie/SPF/Falcon does probably in fact contain exactly one wolf was the only thing I gathered overnight.

What generated this list? Again, idk how to catch SPF without a PoE, but if this one is valid we can go from there.

No, we cannot go from there.
The list generated from my brain figuring out that the reason I consider Roxy as town yesterday was because I was missing wolves and therefore that I was probably wrong about some of my townreads.

I see. This makes sense but I agree, not enough to form anything solid that'd lead me to catching SPF at this juncture.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:02 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:57 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:53 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:23 pm I also think that when the game is hard we obviously vote out SPF, but now is not then.

Why SPF? Meta thing? When I've caught SPF before it was due to PoE.

No. *when the game is obviously hard e.g. ive obviously whiffed on most people below SPF*

Why are you voting sig?

Because I'm not confident on you.

Creature is a fine option as well, but I don't think creature is contributing to the theoretical town infighting we are seeing.

Sig can definitely be along for the town in fight ride.

Not contributing to the town infighting literally is what the hypothetical mafia are doing in your hypothetical.

err... Contributing may not have been the correct word. Enabling may be better.

Creature I think has gone against the grain more than Sig.

Don't misinterpret me here, they are both good options and wolfy. I just think the gamestate reflects worse on Sig.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:59 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:49 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:44 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:34 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:29 pm

The game being hard does not automatically mean Bereft/SPF/Mac contains mafia. If us three were dead and Baudib, Alison and Rondo alive you'd probably have the exact same argument with different names.

Keep on powerwolfing man, it's a reasonable thing to do. You're going to have to deal with me all day though.

Okay I'm done with you. I pleaded with you to work with me yesterday and you ignored me. I'm burying you today.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

From my POV, you have not tried to work with me at all. I explained my case on you yesterday and you just called it illogical and then got upset and started AtEing. Since you've used similar AtE on me when you were a wolf in the past, you burned the one "I'mma drop it in case this is real town frustration and not manipulative AtE" card you get. I don't think I've been rude to you, and I get how this game can get heated at times, and I believe your frustration is probably genuine, but I also know you expressing frustration in the thread is NAI, so you can't expect me to just change my reads because of it.

Bury away.

You have given me zero opportunity to explain my mindset to you in a way that could persuade you to change your read. I have been very townie. You have been a town killing machine and accusing me of the opposite. You should actually reevaluate me properly if you are town. I made a day 1 solve you quoted and questioned me on that so far has had 3 town flip from my towncore and 0 mafia. Largely players you've pushed. Either you're a cause or complicit in the destruction of the town wincon in this game imo.

I've suspected town, but I have not killed anyone. Who have I pushed that then got chopped because of it?

You can say my reads are shit, but town killing? no.

Why are you letting town from your towncore flip so easily?

Oh yes I forgot I control every vote in the game.

I literally created a wagon day 1 to try to save them. Fuck off.

mfw this is wolf theater.

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:35 pm Seanzie/SPF/Falcon does probably in fact contain exactly one wolf was the only thing I gathered overnight.

What generated this list? Again, idk how to catch SPF without a PoE, but if this one is valid we can go from there.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:58 pm Jack day 1 buried Alison and he has done nothing since. He's fallen off. He is mafia.

You wanna say I'm the cause of this gamestate. Eat shit.

I find myself in agreement.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:55 pm There's stuff like this all through Tutuu's iso. Tutuu worked double time to ensure day 3 was nothing but a Roxy sleepwalk. Sheeping bad town legacy is a thing town do but I think Tutuu did it egregiously.

I have half the mind to think that the Roxy yeet is still steering us in the correct direction if we read the discourse of last cycle correctly.

I have the other half of mind to be like 'I told you goons Roxy didn't wolf tell.'

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:53 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:23 pm I also think that when the game is hard we obviously vote out SPF, but now is not then.

Why SPF? Meta thing? When I've caught SPF before it was due to PoE.

No. *when the game is obviously hard e.g. ive obviously whiffed on most people below SPF*

Why are you voting sig?

Because I'm not confident on you.

Creature is a fine option as well, but I don't think creature is contributing to the theoretical town infighting we are seeing.

Sig can definitely be along for the town in fight ride.

Porscha too for that matter. I had just the realization that I've forgotten they are in this game.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:20 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:17 pm @Seanzie @Creature talk to be about SPF

If there aren't at least two wolves in SPF/Mac/Bereft, the game makes no sense.

What makes this list possible?

I think that there's one wolf between them, but I'd be very surprised to see 2 in these 3.

I don't see the game going the way it has if that group is mostly town.

I disagree.

I think this game is indicative of in fighting between town more so than deep wolf coaching town to do ill. Maybe one is doing so, but not more so.

Thus Jack/Sig I think need to be dealt with at this juncture.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:52 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:20 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:17 pm @Seanzie @Creature talk to be about SPF

If there aren't at least two wolves in SPF/Mac/Bereft, the game makes no sense.

What makes this list possible?

I think that there's one wolf between them, but I'd be very surprised to see 2 in these 3.

From my perspective it's practically impossible. I'm town and I've seen interactions between them that do not seem w/w. I don't think SPF had mafia partners in this game. I don't think either are mafia though.

I still town read you.

I don't catch SPF as first wolf ever I think. I'm just not good at that.

Bereft, who fucking knows, I recognize my sr on the slot is 80% OMGUS and I need to legitimately re read the slot.

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:23 pm I also think that when the game is hard we obviously vote out SPF, but now is not then.

Why SPF? Meta thing? When I've caught SPF before it was due to PoE.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:50 pm how many mafia in jack/sig/falcon/tutuu?

I really don't think Falcon can be scum still.

Jack/Sig/Tutuu can all contain one so I'd say 2.

Tutuu appears the most towniest, but as they survive and as their read on me is too solid I'd be willing to say possible tmi at this point.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:20 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:17 pm @Seanzie @Creature talk to be about SPF

If there aren't at least two wolves in SPF/Mac/Bereft, the game makes no sense.

What makes this list possible?

I think that there's one wolf between them, but I'd be very surprised to see 2 in these 3.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:15 pm changed my mind overnight and dont think sig is mafia anymore. i think sabi/creature/jack contains at least 2.

think the game is being deepwolfed by probably exactly tutuu/one other player but im interested in just voting out a wolf today regardless of anything else

what wonderful means changed your mind?

Wowee

Anyways it's [VOTE: SIG] aubergine

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:50 pm The post being fascinating had nothing to do with me justifying a wolfread on you.
If you want data, then respond to the fact that you've made barely any posts today like I said.

I've explained why I had to take a leave from the thread. I was put in a space where I couldn't play the game effectively.

I've expressed this several times, along with both asking for others to interact with me and questioning the current mindsets.

So go on. Continue discussing this without actually interacting with my other content along with the other vague tells please. It'll very much help you read me.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:46 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:40 pm My idk read on Bereft has shifted to wolf leaning with that one.

why?

See previous post.

I can understand a singular instance of wolf calling without probable reason OR shading without an actual contextual reason that is sensible to the thread, but at twice it appears to be just a means of discrediting while 'looking' like data is being generated.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:33 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

Sig has produced no coherent content and has made primarily bad votes. In conclusion, he is objectively null but you should get rid of him after you clear the main suspects because once he starts wolfsiding he doesn't stop.

Flipping through Alison data. Gonna just sheep there alittle. How do we feel about sigs slot arm?

My idk read on Bereft has shifted to wolf leaning with that one.

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:53 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:16 am

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:53 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:43 am

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).

Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .


Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game

Is Creature weaving a false narrative in your mind? What's your read on them?

I’d throw creature down as a scum lean, there response to me have been off for most of the game (I guess this falls more into the gut read camp) and he seems to be more actively pushing wagons than civ creature does.

I’d be curious to see if this Roxy flip is current since he’s been pushing it, but if she flips civ he’d be someone I’m eyeing a lot more.

He’s also on my ISO list so I’ll have more infor here soon

This post feels very teammate indicative if Creature flips W.

This is a fascinating post.

I've discovered that Dr. Wigly has been dropping off hard this game.

What does this mean?

You keep making posts that have no meaning towards me and It's kinda silly at this point.

Like I remember skimming you saying "I'm wolfing like you would two years ago" how in the hell would that have any meaning to the thread?

It's at the point where your pushes on me just don't feel genuine. Add data that has meaning purpose or at least some base form of discussable logic to it.

I like Tutuu's list.

However, if there's a slot that's wrong in, I think that'd just imply that there's a loud wolf somewhere as idk how I feel about Jack filling in one of those gaps.

Someone talk to me about Mac (remember townleaning this slot), SPF and Bereft. I don't have any data there.

Dennis still feels very much towny.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:31 am Yeah I still think falcon is town. I guess wolf!falcon tends to display more agenda.

Dude, wolf Falcon isn't this loud ever.

Players that SR Falcon, have we ever seen W Falcon this loud in a game before?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:47 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:43 am

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).

Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .


Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game

Is Creature weaving a false narrative in your mind? What's your read on them?

I couldn't tell you a single narrative, false or otherwise, that Creature is weaving. If you're specific about what narrative you want my opinion on, I'd be happy to take a look though.

Creature I think is not displaying some of the stiltedness I see in his wolf games, and while he isn't as paranoid as I expect town!Creature, I'd still give him a town lean.

I think this is well said, and I think a familiar feeling I have.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:53 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:43 am

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).

Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .


Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game

Is Creature weaving a false narrative in your mind? What's your read on them?

I’d throw creature down as a scum lean, there response to me have been off for most of the game (I guess this falls more into the gut read camp) and he seems to be more actively pushing wagons than civ creature does.

I’d be curious to see if this Roxy flip is current since he’s been pushing it, but if she flips civ he’d be someone I’m eyeing a lot more.

He’s also on my ISO list so I’ll have more infor here soon

This post feels very teammate indicative if Creature flips W.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:19 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:00 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:53 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:45 pm @Seanzie why is your game so much different than secret player list?

You'll have to elaborate on what exactly is different. I don't feel different, except for the obvious differences.

You feel more cautious in your takes.

You were very fire from the hip in secret player list, but in this game you've expressed fear on your read of me and your processes for other players seem to take more time. They are lengthier, thus at least to me, tells of a more cautionary approach to either reading or posting.

I do not fear reading you, I just know I don't know how to.

I do not feel the other things you're saying.

Hmm.....................

@DrWilgy is that it?

Aye for now that's it. I've lost track of the game too much to have anything other than gut reads.

Questioning you on the gut read I thought may help me figure out how I feel further, but ultimately nothing changed. I'll just need to re read the slot and assess if my read was correct eventually. I have very little interest in doing so today though.

Simply put, it was a means for me to focus while exploring wagonomics early game.

I think it still has merit when I think about it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:06 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:56 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:14 pm Where's Wilgy? I feel like he's dipped this RD, and that's somewhat troubling


@DrWilgy Are you now, or have you ever been, a Doctor? Where ya's head at? I don't see you as my town core like I used to

No, I've just been committing fraud for the past few years of my life.

What dropped me out of town core? I needed to take a break from the game and such.

So back to my original postulation that there was a wolf in the early Kate wagon. Likely just [VOTE: creature] aubergine at this point. So I'll vote there before I try to catch up now. Will likely skim and ISO for a few hours this evening.

Not being around.


Refresh me in your Kate wagon theory?

So early on, there was the 4 man Kate wagon that just kinda blooped into place d1.

This consisted of Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend. My theory was such "If Kate is not a wolf, it is very likely that a wolf planted a vote here for both an easy vote drop and a means to get engaged. The game is young enough that this would be a decent way to get momentum, and thus the wagon is likely unpure."

Based on early reads, the two most likely in this group were Baudib and Creature.

Now that the game has progressed, I could potentially think of SPF as the wolf on the boat, but I think it's far less likely than Creature.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:02 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:58 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:54 pm what are worlds where bereft/wigly/seanzie/rondo are town

I'm like 90% sure not everyone calling me Wolf can be wolf, I look forward to them feeling silly when I flip.

to be clear. I think there are worlds where you could be town but at the moment Mac is slightly more town than you and has called you sus (afaik, I need to re-read again but I am at work atm)

Why does Mac have such a say so on my alignment? If you have re-read the slot has Mac shown the actual read/tells for me?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:00 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:53 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:45 pm @Seanzie why is your game so much different than secret player list?

You'll have to elaborate on what exactly is different. I don't feel different, except for the obvious differences.

You feel more cautious in your takes.

You were very fire from the hip in secret player list, but in this game you've expressed fear on your read of me and your processes for other players seem to take more time. They are lengthier, thus at least to me, tells of a more cautionary approach to either reading or posting.

I do not fear reading you, I just know I don't know how to.

I do not feel the other things you're saying.

Aye, I don't know if fear was correct. Uncertainty builds fear, but they are not the same and uncertainty was more likely the word to describe it.

Oh, and I'm still of the argument that Sabi/Kate is VERY unlikely wolf. I think Kate spewed town before the bodyswap happened.

Alison saw it too and I'm thinking that's one I shouldn't reconsider until we have more data.