The Syndicate

Choutas wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Matt F wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Man, I sure would love to vote for Choutas today.
Why? Is his roleclaim false?
I don't know, but I do have some reasons for thinking he may be scummy scummington scummiest scummerino of the sea.

Choutas wrote:
Matt F wrote:I'm outta here for a bit, but I just realized that 3J doesn't have one single vote yet.

To everyone who switched from 3J to seaside last Day Phase - What's up?

Peace out folks bbl

Oh and Choutas - Were you being funny about the "who do you suppose they targeted?" I guess I'll take you off my civvie for sure list.
It was bait.
Why did you think this was a good idea Choutas? sadly my "why" from before was ignored.
It was a good idea. I had suspicions that they would target me at night. Most people didn't respond to me and they look suss for that. The persons who did respond to me look townier to me. Now here comes a question. Why of all the billion stuff that happened that post stroke you as the scummiest? Explain.

Choutas wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Doc, please show me that you have any interest in baddie hunting. Choutas may or may not answer your questions, but there are a bunch of other people in this game and in recent phases you've given us close to nothing.
It's interesting how his ingame behavour could be summarized as focusing on the lesser posters to scumhunt. First it was Bcornet and the guy could get modkilled tonight. He's using the same "reply to my question" to me the same way he did with Bcornet. I believe he might have wanted to distance himself from a Bcornet lynch/modkill and he now has me as the most scummy player despite my name being off the choices for voting. This is scum behaviour if I ever saw one.
My preferences for today's lynch are sig and drwilgy.

is...

is that a NO U?

Also, my question relating to the highlighted was ignored, I asked previous, what makes you think this?

The reason why it stroke me as scummy is because you were off the lynch list. What a better time for a baddie to try to hunt out roles than when they are not able to be lynched for what they do? also there's a strike 2 in the fact that you say people that responded to this seem to be less scummy seems even dirtier. It's as if you were wanting to draw out more answers by putting out some form of reward. Strike three was stating "it was bait" as fast as you did. What was the point of this if you reveal that it was bait so soon? it kills the exercise if it was genuine, and hurts the potential for more information gain. You said that you see players that responded as less scummy, but I don't believe you gave players time to respond if that was your goal. LC did the same thing with the false bea case. What is the point, if you aren't going to maximize information gain? I mean, you didn't even need to defend your actions at that point, you were off the vote list. What was the point?

Chou.

Just look at my in topic posts. I don't have that many.

He got stuck here an extra day due to bad weather.

Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Matt F wrote:This is going to be a strange request...

Can everyone tell Elohcin a joke this day phase? Thanks!
Our sex life.

Would you like me to prove you wrong?[/quote]
*Wilgy's expression doesn't change as he slowly and subtly readies his camera*

Good morn... Er... Evening everyone. My nap has concluded. Choutas plz address the questions I had asked you.

As much as I am always for a healthy Fuzz lynch, I'm going to politely ask everyone to not do that today. He is still out of town, and most likely hasn't read the thread in 3 or so days.

Chou plz..

Got home from work. Gonna nap then post.

In the meantime, If yall have questions for me use DrWilgy in the post so I can ctrl f them and address them when I wake up. I think I saw some stuff from JJJ that needed defining?

After questions I'll address Choutas. Also I think there's potential for Fuzz and Choutas to be on the same team. If y'all want, check thier interactions with me and each other (especially considering Fuzz's existence is based on mine).

Peace doods + Eloh

MM you are all over the place.

Votzee placed on METALMARSH

I'll talk about Chou as soon as possible. I went to go hang out with Fuzz and didn't have time to explain. Do forgive me.

Unsure actually. I'm seeing things that I would like to vote Choutas for, but can't.

I think my order at this point is Choutas >Floyd >JJJ

...or we can lynch Fuzz while he's away... Ufufufufu...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:I just want Chou to respond...
Whether he does or doesn't, you should talk to MM immediately.

Why?

MM, you are my friend. Are you a baddie McBaderston though?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think I wasted a good amount of energy accomplishing nothing last night, so I'm just recalibrating right now.

Wait

One

Fuggin

Second

Oh! Rico, before I forget, my Devin vote was placed on Sorsha's request.

I just want Chou to respond...

bcornett wrote:No I am not scum, when you linked this first time it confused me as the structuring and location was weird and I thought this was directed at Mac. Generally speaking, when I create a rainbow, they consist of two types of reads, gut reads based on content glimpse and interactions I have specifically noticed, these are my gut reads. Rainbow reads that are not gut reads tend to have a reason next to them within the rainbow. I tend to not have a preemptive vote ready, I prefer to look at all of the information collectively before I place a vote.

I somewhat believe this, thank you bcornett.
Wilgy stands on the side of a dim road. Only a slight bit of light breaks through the clouds. It's only enough light to cast shadows, making everything seem dimmer. Wilgy lights his cigar, it's warmth contradicting the cold grey that surrounds him. Across the road, bcornett stands there. Wilgy walks towards bcornett, and a light snow begins to fall. Wilgy meets him and pats him on the shoulder, whispers something and walks past him.

Matt F wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Man, I sure would love to vote for Choutas today.
Why? Is his roleclaim false?

I don't know, but I do have some reasons for thinking he may be scummy scummington scummiest scummerino of the sea.

Choutas wrote:
Matt F wrote:I'm outta here for a bit, but I just realized that 3J doesn't have one single vote yet.

To everyone who switched from 3J to seaside last Day Phase - What's up?

Peace out folks bbl

Oh and Choutas - Were you being funny about the "who do you suppose they targeted?" I guess I'll take you off my civvie for sure list.
It was bait.

Why did you think this was a good idea Choutas? sadly my "why" from before was ignored.

Choutas wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Choutas wrote:
Matt F wrote:I'm outta here for a bit, but I just realized that 3J doesn't have one single vote yet.

To everyone who switched from 3J to seaside last Day Phase - What's up?

Peace out folks bbl

Oh and Choutas - Were you being funny about the "who do you suppose they targeted?" I guess I'll take you off my civvie for sure list.
It was bait.
Anything revealing so far?
The scum would refrain from replying. You look good same with Matt.

Also, what makes you think this?

Matt F wrote:Dr Wilgy, did Floyd ever answer you about his thoughts on Epignosis?

He did not, sadly it became irrelevant though.

Everyone, how much of a priority is the SK?

Man, I sure would love to vote for Choutas today.

Choutas wrote:Question to all. Who do you think both the SK and the scum targeted?

Why?

It's like my brain can't process his existence.

I remeber when the game started, I would see his name, but couldn't associate anything to it. Then I'd have to re read everything. That happened 3 times.

Linki, its concerning, but would mafia coordinate themselves that much? I need to look at this in better detail. I'm currently reading events regarding the seaside lynch, and am catching up.

Why do I always forget strawhenge???

Bcornett, you were 1 of 2 who said BR was good in our gth. Why did you think this?

I leave for afew hours, get ready to sleep, check my phone in bed, all hell breaks loose.

I'll be back in the morning.

Nah,

I think the term that describes my suspicion on JJJ would be most described as uncomfortable. The term that describes my suspicion on bcornett is dodgy.

@MM I'd rather have JJJ

My "I would vote for this person" list for tonight is

Bcornett> Floyd> JJJ> Sleeper Agents

I'm suspicious of JJJ, but between bcornett and JJJ, I'd rather have JJJ. Bcornett is the worse of two evils.

*Wilgy presses the big red button*

Zzzzzz...

Voting bcornett.

bcornett24 wrote:Let's talk about Dr. Wilgy then.

By all means, let's talk about me! Why does someone else need to lead the discussion though?

And your refusal to answer questions excuse is pucky, my question was asked 1 week ago, and you didnt answer till yesterday. I made it very clear for about 3 days that you missed it, and gave you multiple chances to go back and answer it.

When I quoted my own question, you stated something on the lines of "why are we back at sorsha?" If we are "back" at sorsha, how can catching up be relevant? It's clear you had already read through when the question was asked, yet you still blame the size and speed of this game for not responding.

Ok now... Goodnight everyone! Talk t'y'all tomorry!

motel room wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MOTEL ROOM

RADICAL FUZZ

RICOCHET

ROXY

cheap and available

good

good

good

DrWilgy wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:RUSSTIFINKO

SEASIDE

SIG

STRAWHENGE

THEFLOYD73
Good

Good

Good

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Bad

Edit: Missed Strawhenge

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:RUSSTIFINKO

SEASIDE

SIG

STRAWHENGE

THEFLOYD73

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Good

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MOTEL ROOM

RADICAL FUZZ

RICOCHET

ROXY

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FINGERSPLINTS

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY

MATT F

METALMARSH89

Bad

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Bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:DIINY

DRWILGY

ELOHCIN

EPIGNOSIS

Good

Good, and sexy, very sexy...

Good

Good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:BCORNETT24

BLACK ROCK

BULLZEYE

CHOUTAS

Bad

Bad

Good

Good

*Wilgy throws a thumb up indicating his readiness*

K, lemme get ready for bed, then I'll be ready. Gimme 15.

Its the rapid good or bad exercise yes?

I have work in like 6 hours. I really should go to bed... How long will this take?

RadicalFuzz wrote:F me J3. I neeeeeed it.

F for Fuzz!!

You are guilty bro!

Why did Mac say you were town?!?! Hmmmmmmm!!!!

bcornett24 wrote:Why are we back to sorsha, or is this just part of the quote and you randomly asked me if i was bad after?

No I'm not bad are you?

I am not. Why did it take you so long to respond even though I was listed as a sketchy sketch on your rainbow list?

What are your thoughts on what Fuzz said about me?

DrWilgy wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Not tunneling, just asking and pointing out things of importance. Luv ya bruh <3

Ok then, lets set up a chain of events, based on Sorsha crumbs.

When Sorsha flips baddie, who would you vote the following day?

When Sorsha flips civ, who would you vote the following day?

Generating rainbow lists for both if Sorsha is bad or civ would be a good thing as well... Maybe abit much to ask for though.

Bcornett are you bad?

Hey bcornett, feel like answerin my question now?

RadicalFuzz wrote:I replaced Reywas.

I want to see Wilgy burn today, slightly more so after Mac had nothing to say on the topic.

MacDougall wrote:
RadicalFuzz wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Because he is obvscum. Bullzeye is scum. Fuzz is scum. Look to the throwaway votes imo.
You got me excited that you actually thought I was scum, but then you don't list me in your next post. I feel neglected. I also feel annoyed that you asked me to put in work on post analysis and then call the result of that post analysis a throwaway vote. Would you rather me ignore the conclusions I've come to?

You are correct, however, that the inverse is true for you. With so many players pushing your lynch that's a slight indication that you're not scum.
Well it is a throwaway vote in the sense that it was alone. I agree with your analysis of Wilgy though. I was just starting to just name people with few votes on them and then decided to look a bit closer. You town. He scum.

Ugg... It ate my post

RadicalFuzz wrote:Wilgy you, as a Mafia player who understands the game, are aware of something. Information is king. Suspicions, reads, inklings, any game-relevant information helps town (barring extremes like knowing who Medic/UC are), and every civilian should aim to increase the total knowledge base of the town by giving their information as best they can. Your contributions have been raw vote data, trying to get bcornett to answer a question, and now implying you believe I'm dirty. If this is all you have to your name after six days, you are not helping the town win.

I thought my stance on Floyd was clear earlier but I'll reiterate. He looks bad, for the most part completely objectively. The logical conclusion if he looks objectively bad is that he is most likely bad. I will not be voting for him for illogical reasons. The reason I'm not going over any other players for the particularly same reason as you, Wilgy, is because I don't know them. I'm not going to assume that I know what Roxy believes to be good town play. I know that you're aware of your low contribution, but rather than trying to fix the problem you're attempting a No U, and that's not the correct move for town Wilgy here.

Motel, since you're familiar with the series, let's play a game. If I was L, who would Near be?

Epi, I'm trying to stress that ease of lynching is a minimal factor for my decision making process. Blame me for suggesting a Chinese fire drill, as I did, but don't omit that I wanted a Chinese fire drill onto my suspect in Wilgy.

J3, those are my suspicions against him. They're amplified because I know he doesn't believe in playing town like he currently is, however. I don't expect other players to have that coefficient due to familiarity, but I'll offer a substitution. Wilgy stated that he and I play very well off of each other. Has he made attempts to reach out to me in the thread, or has it been me attempting to work with him?

I was trying to get bcornett to answer a question for almost 3 days straight to no avail. Fuzz is only looking at a select group of what I have done and or what I have had to say, and ignoring such interactions.

Then, he says that I have a responsibility, but a post or so before makes an excuse as to why that responsibility doesn't apply to Floyd. What about Roxy? What about bcornett who still hasn't explained his JJJ vote?

RadicalFuzz wrote:I think Wilgy is dirtier than Mac. My preference would be to lynch the player I am most confident in being scum. In addition, Mac is a strange individual that I am unfamiliar with, while I've known Wilgy for years. Speaking for myself, I'd rather lynch Wilgy, because he's aware of the responsibility to play correctly that all civilians have. He hasn't been contributing what he should be contributing as a townie if he is one, and that leads me to believe that he's not. The Mac lynch is more complex, both the case and the player (to me), so I'd rather take the action that I believe to be more correct with the information I have available to me.

Lol explain this responsibility Fuzz. Obviously I'm incorrect somewhere.

Also, you seem to be obsessing with me, while only looking at my interactions with you. Do you have anything to say about my interactions with, bcornett, or mac?

MacDougall wrote:Self pres voting wilgy

RadicalFuzz wrote:Floyd looks bad, no two ways about it. I'm aware that he's had a horrible situation and that's why his contribution is so low, but even the posts he has made have been borderline scumslips. "Do you mean the in-thread text" being the prime example, to me.

Despite that, I'm not going to lynch him on that unless I have to. For a game of this size to be his first, particularly with the bad timing of his IRL situation, he deserves a chance. I'm familiar with at least part of his position, entering into a large game and being overwhelmed, and I'm not going to lynch him for what he's done so far.

I'm aware this is illogical, and likely unpopular. If the time comes that he participates in the thread and says things that I find suspicious, then I will vote him. Until that point, I'm not going to vote for Floyd. I don't condemn any votes against him, it's a perfectly logical move, but I won't join.

So Fuzz... Why aren't you asking him questions? Why aren't you trying to involve him? Instead you dismiss him until he involves himself?

Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Are my thoughts wrong Epi? Do tell.
Triply so.

First, as you've by now realized, you misrepresented what Matt F said.

Second, if I were Psycho Killer and blocked, and someone came into the thread calling me out, would I want that person lynched so everyone can see why he or she was saying that? No. I'd have to take care of that bidness at Night.

Third, there was no mention of a Psycho Killer kill at all in the host post Night 5, meaning there was no attempt made at all.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Matt F wrote:HOSTS - If the Mafia or Serial Killer is prevented from making a kill for whatever reason, do you still show their kill attempt in the Night Post? If the Mafia or Serial Killer simply don't make an attempt, do you completely ignore them in the Night Post?

Thank you
Yes to both questions.

Objection! Killing Mac at night would cause speculation that he was killed for suspecting you. Lynching Mac for his obvious scumnanigans, would at least make you look civvie, keeping the noose away from you.

I want MP to specify these rulings on role blocking...

I thought the ruling was a role blocked player cannot use thier power, meaning a psycho can't submit a kill, and even if they did, the submission of the kill would fail, not the kill itself.

I thought a kill failing, would happen if the kill was submitted without block, and they hapen to run into some sort of immunity. I.e. protection.

Epignosis wrote:

Are my thoughts wrong Epi? Do tell.

My bad Matt, I read that as you believing in Mac's SK claims.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Gonna GTH the whole mafia team without thinking about it a ton (can't at work):

Black Rock
Diiny
Choutas
motel room
Metalmarsh89
Russtifinko (I know this contradicts my prior thing, oh well)

Are you going to say Mac is bad next?

@Epi, I'm back on phone now and don't have time to quote pull. The reason I believe is because role blocks exist in this game. Psycho killer, can't submit a night action if they don't have one.

Mac, stating that you are SK on a night were there is no psycho kill, and him being a scummy scummertston, fufill all the conditions for him to either be baddie roleblocker, or in btsc with baddie roleblocker. Matt's statement of Mac is bad and Epi is SK help confirm my thoughts, and russ stating that you are most likely SK may place him in the btsc with Mac.

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