The Syndicate

I agree with DDL regarding Timmer. DDL, how is Epi bad? I think Marmot suggested that he wouldn't target INH or I, but did target Epi, thus meaning he's immortal or civ.

timmer wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Them odds tho.
That post, tho. I'm sorry, but MM's dead hand is pointing DIRECTLY at you.

A civ with a one-shot kill targeted someone, and they know if they target the wrong guy they will die instead. What do they do? They leave a little nugget in the thread immediately before the night ends, just in case. MM wasn't even trying to be subtle about it. You and Wilgy are willfully ignoring the obvious. YOU got indiglo lynched. WILGY tried to get me lynched. The two of you have led every lynch so far, with B.S. reasons, and now you are trying to move the thread past MM pointing directly at you.

But since clearly MM targeted you and clearly he died, I can't vote you. So I will be voting for Wilgy today, barring an insane change in the available information to me.

And no, I won't tell you what i think of surviving the lynch, Wilgy, I'm not going to hand you that information.

Ok then Timmer, I'm classifying you as a baddie. We are at a point now where we cannot withold any information we have. You are the player who survived, and we have a confirmed kill surviving baddie role.

It makes sense that MM pointed towards Epi, but MM's role suicided on civilian kills as well. You are clearly ignoring the fact that Epi could be a civ, and you are forcing this idea that he has to be the bad one.

Also, what is up with you classifying my vote as BS? I thought we already discussed this. Stop going in circles.

In regards to not witholding information, I'm Louise Thompson, vanilla civ.

The one exception to this can be answered in the following question. Zebra have you lied in any of your host's posts?

Epignosis wrote:Looking for timmer's teammates is all you have to do. He exposed himself worse than Anthony Weiner.

I agree with you for the wrong reason.

Epi who is Timmer's teammate?

Welcome back Daisy.

So I say we lynch Eloh 2.0 on the premise that she is Timmer's teammate.

We have to take into account that MM could've targeted a civ.

Timmer, explain how you survived now that both role claiming and character claiming are allowed. If you do not agree to this, I will mark you down as killgrave until otherwise needed.

Scotty wrote:When I look in the mirror, who is this I see?

It's the sound of silence talking to me.

?

Never fear Scotty, I predict you will die if you aren't bad.

DrWilgy wrote:Marmot, who will die tonight? Me, or INH?

DF, what are your thoughts on the Epi Indiglo voters?

Derp.

Marmot, who will die tonight? Me, or INH?

DF, what are your thoughts on the Epi voters?

@Scotty, to clarify, I did vote for INH. I just moved it to Epi during the night because I could.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Where are you at Wilgysy? Who's gonna get licked this game?

I'm not sure... Though I lost that game, I don't think I'll ever have such a spectacular performance.

@Scotty I think the only difference in final day poll was the fact that I changed from INH to Epi.

What makes you feel good about me Scotty? I'll ask again if you have explained your inh suspicion.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Marmot Friend is INH your teammate?
I don't know. We could both be on indiglo's team. Poor indiglo, I'm so sorry.

Good answer Marmot Friend. Who's your dankest read right now? If they were to flip town, who would you think to be bad?

Epignosis, what are your thoughts on Eloh 2.0, Scotty and DF?

Where is Sriracha?

Marmot Friend is INH your teammate?

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:@INH, so what qualifies as satisfactory? Randoming?
Nope. But I view voting for someone solely because they randomed to be worse than randoming.

You aren't actually reading what I say are you?

In regards to my views on INH's humorous posts that made me suspect him originally, I can sympathize. Humor is needed for life, but too much of anything can be bad. When comparing what had triggered my suspicion vs my own playstyle, I do see similarities, but there's one key difference. When I have things to contribute or a goal to achieve, I make sure that I at least voice it or accomplish my goal after the humor has passed, or even with the humor.

Humor into a random vote does not accomplish this.
Really dude? You, DrWilgy, are criticizing someone for joking around in a mafia game?

Let me see if I understand your argument, because it utterly strains credulity for me. Apparently, Wilgy uses humor to accomplish a goal or accompanies his humor with gameplay. Uh huh.

In his mind, my random D1 vote isn't gameplay, but rather me awkwardly spasming about the thread. It boggles Wilgy's mind to possibly conceive of a goal I could achieve with my utterly inept, pointless, brainless random vote that has no basis in logic or rational thought.

Making me out to be the villain? Inept, pointless, and brainless are words that do nothing but slander me. I never said such things. Can you validate the purpose of your actions from a contributory civ view point?

Let's see how Wilgy uses humor.

Spoiler: show
DrWilgy wrote:1st
IMMEDIATELY AFTER MP ASKS "Can we post?"
DrWilgy wrote:Can't we post?

DrWilgy wrote:U bad MP?

DrWilgy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:U bad MP?
Nope.

You bad, Doctor?
Damn, I wasn't expecting you to ask that back.

I am. You got me.

Take me away officer.

DrWilgy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:U bad MP?
Nope.

You bad, Doctor?
Damn, I wasn't expecting you to ask that back.

I am. You got me.

Take me away officer.
YES, I CAUGHT A BADDIE ON DAY ONE!
Do not sound so happy... My 12 evil brothers and sisters will rise to avenge me...

DrWilgy wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Wilgy, is MM your teammate? I mean, that worked out well for us last time.
MM is always my teammate.

DrWilgy wrote:Ok you are in Eloh, the team is currently Me, DDL/MP, MM, Epi and Eloh.
I honestly see no way in which the above posts are somehow more goal-orientated and on-topic than:

insertnamehere wrote:i'm daredevil everybody.

the ben affleck version, obviously.
But I'm not Wilgy. I don't know the extreme level of thought and care he puts into each jokepost, how each snarky comment is expertly designed to trap the baddies in a web of his own making.

It was for reaction, and discussion promotion. I also pinned together certain people to see if it changed how they reacted. How about your jokes INH?

I guess that's just my own fault, not thinking exactly like Wilgy.

INH, I actually do think we think alike. I think we both enjoy the stories and theatrics that mafia brings out in it's players. Do to this I believe we have a repeated history of both me being read by you poorly, and I reading you poorly. I will not cite if this is true or not, but it is the feel I get from playing with you.

Regardless, I do think you are bad nonetheless.

So DF, i put you at orange for similar reasons to Indiglo. At the time of my rainbow list, you had posted enough to define your presence, but not enough for me to have a notion of you contributing, thus you were classified as potential baddie lurking.

Scotty, did you ever explain your suspicion of INH?

@INH, so what qualifies as satisfactory? Randoming?

In regards to my views on INH's humorous posts that made me suspect him originally, I can sympathize. Humor is needed for life, but too much of anything can be bad. When comparing what had triggered my suspicion vs my own playstyle, I do see similarities, but there's one key difference. When I have things to contribute or a goal to achieve, I make sure that I at least voice it or accomplish my goal after the humor has passed, or even with the humor.

Humor into a random vote does not accomplish this.

Yeah they are ddl. The opening post keeps changing and stated as much.

Ties will be a no lynch today fam. Be prepared. I'm feeling better and will catch up at some point.

We have 1 more day right?

I ended up getting sick and don't wanna use my brain right now -__-

Hey Timmer, what character are you?

Damn. RIP Eloh.

If you are concerned with me taking the game seriously Indiglo, it's due to how I burned out and died horribly in Mad Max.

I'm not content with that. Hopefully I can ammend my play that game here.

Why do people think I'm not civ? At least call me bad...

Sorry, I must've missed the question Scotty. The reason is that INH is willing to say things without purpose.

This exchange:

a2thezebra wrote:Luffy was just in today so he'll be here soon enough. The game begins! Any questions such as whether or not character-claiming is allowed will have to be asked to be answered.

insertnamehere wrote:is character claiming allowed?

insertnamehere wrote:i'm daredevil everybody.

the ben affleck version, obviously.

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Are votes changeable?

Hello INH. Are you classified as a civilian?
Yep.

By the way, the Daredevil thing was a joke. I'm not really him.

OR AM I?

No, I'm really not.

Omitting the response to me, what was the point?

Things have further increased my suspicion, but can I ask of your suspicion before I explain that Scotty?

Zebra, is power-related infodumping allowed?

Interesting. I'm looking forward to Timmer answering INH's question.

Zebra, now that powers are in play, can I have a role/character list?

INH, I stated thus previously, my vote wasn't random. Should I have not broken the tie? Should I have not voted? This "single-handed" meme is dumb, 8 people missed votes and I feel like I'm getting flak for it.

Scotty would you mind explaining why you are suspicious of INH?

Is Zebra OK?

@Everyone let's make sure to ask Zebra questions when they come to mind.

timmer wrote:Oh, lol, I misread the poll, I thought Epig had had a vote against him. Well, there goes everything. Stellar play, Timmer. Really sniffed 'em out. Le sigh. Where's the lynch post...

I see now. Had one of the 4 I declared voteworthy earlier had a vote, I would've voted for them instead of you.

Timmer, I am sorry if I pissed you off.

It was nothing against you or your playstyle. I disagree with random voting, and did what I think will secure us victory.

I felt like I had to at the time due to uncertainty as to how ties were handled.

I'm still confused about the subject as to why Epi and I are teammates. With Eloh it was regarding me stating that I respect him, hbu Timmer?

timmer wrote:I'm going to try not to get pissed off about this, but when someone spends the start of the game goofing off and being all jokey and then decides to single-handedly suddenly become the arbiter of proper play and choose to cull someone who random voted, because THAT isn't helpful, I call B.S.

Jokey? I spent the entirety of day one trying to encourage discussion.

Perhaps if other voices were in play Timmer I wouldn't have had to single-handedly do that.

timmer wrote:So you random voted random voters, Wilgy? How's that high horse?

Did I say that it was random?

Linki - I agree, but I will reserve judgement until we have Timmer's results.

insertnamehere wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Maybe I ought to have been a well-respected, brave player and voted early with no apparent reasons. HAHAHA
This. I don't have any reads right now. There's literally nothing I would base a vote on. Maybe that makes me a nonperceptive player, idk. I don't like that Wilgy wants to force people to vote on D1 for a weak reason instead of randomizing. I also think he did timmer pretty damn dirty here.

DrWilgy wrote:
timmer wrote:Da fuq? My first game back in the saddle in awhile? Et tu, Wilgy?
Sorry Timmer, when everyone random votes/doesn't show up this happens.
Don't blame us for playing differently than you, Wilgy. If you think randomizing on Day 1 is a coward's move, then fine. But don't throw someone under the bus solely because he does so.

If I could change my vote right now, I would.

I don't blame you for playing differently, I blame random voting and non presence for giving us little to work with.

Random voting isn't the way of a coward, and I never said that it was. Random voting however doesn't help the civilian cause. Why shouldn't I cull someone for random voting INH?

Who would you change your vote to INH?

timmer wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
timmer wrote:Da fuq? My first game back in the saddle in awhile? Et tu, Wilgy?
Sorry Timmer, when everyone random votes/doesn't show up this happens.
Or one of your baddie friends was one of the people with a vote and you had to save them?

Damn, Timmer got me!

Also, Zebra will we get punished for breaking rules if they haven't been asked yet?

Zebra, what are the results of Timmer's death?

timmer wrote:Da fuq? My first game back in the saddle in awhile? Et tu, Wilgy?

Sorry Timmer, when everyone random votes/doesn't show up this happens.

To the both of you. Regardless of DST, why wait until the last min to vote.

a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Zebra friend. What is the result of a tie?
A coin toss will dictate who dies. I don't do No Lynch ties, I'm not about that life.

Ty Fam. That's what I thought, but had to be sure.

Voted Timmer to cull a random voter and to prevent ties.

Zebra friend. What is the result of a tie?

Hmm... This is the worst situation for a day one. We have no lead discussion, and random voting that is harder to analyze.

The question is, do we cull the unreadable or do we hunt the hidden?

Elohcin wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:DrWilgy is my top civread.
Why so?

DrWilgy wrote:My question for you Eloh, how is me respecting Epi a cover up when I had said nothing about how I read his alignment?
Listen, I am not trying to jump to conclusions here. Its just when I read your posts, it popped out to me as odd. Normally when someone votes early and states no reason, players are like, "woah dude, you still have time to mull things over. And if you are voting with no reasons to back it up, then " So....I am like...hmm, this is an odd response to an early vote with no reasons to back it up. This is the exact opposite of what I would except. SO....I am pinged. That's all.

DrWilgy wrote:Everyone randoming gives us nothing to work with. Posting low also gives us nothing to work with.

Due to numbers, it's probable that not all low posters and random voters can be bad, but who would like to bet that at least one is?
I agree with this. And, can you agree that Epi's early vote with no reasons attached is just as bad?

Epi, I have asked your for your reasons behind your vote. You have yet to answer. Will you please do so?

@ Wilgy....so you suspect Epi (as per your rainbow list). Why?

I don't believe Epi's vote is as bad as a random due to it giving us a subject of discussion.

Epi's actions just feel similar to what I remember of bad Epi. If his vote was for discussion purposes (which would've been a civ Epi thing) as I first thought, I think he would've raised more discussion following that vote.

Scotty wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:My condolences Indiglo.

Rainbow time:
Scotty
DDL
Sriracha
Daisy
Dom
Timmer
Eloh
Indiglo
DF
Epi
MM
INH

May vote for DF, Epi, MM or INH...
Wow, a rainbow read already and wow, I'm at the top? I don't think I've ever been at the top of a rainbow list. What have I done to deserve such an honor and why is INH at the bottom of your list?

Simply because I feel like you are actually saying something regarding the game when you post. You had a thought, you shared it, you left.

In my sleepy haze I messed up my rainbow abit though. Here's the correct version.
Rainbow time:
Scotty
DDL
Sriracha
Daisy
Dom
Timmer
Eloh
Indiglo
DF
Epi
MM
INH

Everyone randoming gives us nothing to work with. Posting low also gives us nothing to work with.

Due to numbers, it's probable that not all low posters and random voters can be bad, but who would like to bet that at least one is?

My condolences Indiglo.

Rainbow time:
Scotty
Daisy
DDL
Sriracha
Dom
Timmer
Eloh
Indiglo
DF
Epi
MM
INH

May vote for DF, Epi, MM or INH...

Really now Eloh? I see it as courageous, but simply due to the nature of mafia.

As an early voter you subject yourself to potential manipulation if you are civ, ot the eyes of others if you are bad. You also give up the ability to vote in self preservation when votes aren't changeable.

My question for you Eloh, how is me respecting Epi a cover up when I had said nothing about how I read his alignment?

On that note. Zebra, may we have a player list? Also, nay you tell me who is bad?

Elohcin wrote:well, no. But I am surprised you are just taking that without asking for a reason.

He showed courage with placing the first vote and answered a question I had. It's also day 1, and thus I don't expect super concrete reasons for voting.

Sorsha wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Hello Sriracha friend! Are you bad, or have any like alignment with Scotty?
Hi Wilgy! I'm good. Not sure about Scotty though.

I'm in an airport right now waiting on my flight to Orlando which is where I will be for the next 9 days

Woo! I hope you have fun!

Elohcin wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I believe indiglo is bad. Voting indiglo.
Epi are votes changeable?
Nope. And I'm happy with my vote.
I respect you.
??? This is weird. Epi voted Ind and states no reason. And Wilgy respects that?

Should I disrespect him?

Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I believe indiglo is bad. Voting indiglo.
Epi are votes changeable?
Nope. And I'm happy with my vote.

I respect you.

Epignosis wrote:I believe indiglo is bad. Voting indiglo.

Epi are votes changeable?

Are votes changeable?

Hello INH. Are you classified as a civilian?

Ok you are in Eloh, the team is currently Me, DDL/MP, MM, Epi and Eloh.

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