The Syndicate

Lol, thanks Zebra. Thanks for the game Drac! It was fun.

I'm going to vote for Bullzeye. I don't think I could normally choose between my teammates, they both played exceptionally, but Bullzeye had so many games of baddie in a row, I think it's time for him to take the MVP for this win.

Don't hate yourself Quin. Just eat humans with us!

Good job my friends!

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:you're welcome
A fitting end for us I guess...
got killed at the same time in both of my games

the mafia gods aren't smiling down on me today

Sorry my friend, GG tho.

insertnamehere wrote:you're welcome

A fitting end for us I guess...

Lol, both Bullzeye and MM missed the vote when the three way tie happened.

insertnamehere wrote:DrWilgy starts out the game casual and jokey with ika/silver:

DrWilgy wrote:
sig wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
sig wrote:

You bad this game Wilgy?
Yee! hbu?
Let me check my role card brb..........

quick question though, the Titans they're the civs right?

Spoiler: show
Maybe

DrWilgy wrote:
ika wrote:read lsit
so metalmarsh can be town
sig is obvious scum right now
MP i would lynch as well.

to do list
silver needs to eb sorted soon.
figure out names meta, relookign its null
Fight me Ika! Sig and I are team titans! I'll eat you before you lynch my Sig!
And then flips once public opinion turns against them:

DrWilgy wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
DrWilgy wrote: @Silver, are you and Ika both good or both bad? Also... I see you skipped my question from previous...
Stop grouping us together. I don't speak for ika.

I didn't skip shit. I probably missed it. I have half the game lining up to scumread/question me for fucking playstyle shit ika and I get every time we play together.
Well, pardon me Silver, but here's the reason why we can't stop grouping you together.

ika wrote:I'm on break but if people are thinking silver is scum I will bet you right fucking now she's town. If anyone is gonna fight me on that I will bet right now. I'm mobile so I'll speak later proeper
along with
Silver wrote:Also, if everyone is gonna start pairing ika and I up again, I'm gonna get irate. Just because we know each other IRL and are very good at figuring each other out in these games does not mean we are the same person. Read us differently.
So why do you get upset when we read you together? based on the theory hat you read each other very well, we can assume if you two aren't doubting on one another, then you are on the same team.

Here's something else that's off, we aren't saying you are the same person, we are saying that you share alignment based on the above. Do you think this is true or false?

This all boils down to "I don't want people to read us together" but "we aren't opposing forces" and "Ika states that I'm civ", and that doesn't fit together.

Also, in regards to my question, it was a mindset type question. I hope that others answer it as well.

@Ika has Silver gotten past you as scum in any other games?
Then Wilgy starts doing his signature move: Asking people for their opinion on something while voting for them until he gets an answer. He used it first on me, and then tried it out on Quin 1.0. The possible scum benefits of using this as a trap are very apparent. He manages to use it to justify two civ lynches.

DrWilgy wrote:Quin, could you resolve this for me?
DrWilgy wrote:This all boils down to "I don't want people to read us together" but "we aren't opposing forces" and "Ika states that I'm civ", and that doesn't fit together.
I do like the way votes are spread though, we are on the right path.

Linki - Well you haven't tried too hard to read me then Gleam, because I've contributed more. I'll help you settle your frustration when you (if you) answer any questions that I've asked the group and stop saying that I don't do anything.

DrWilgy wrote:Guess I'm voting Quin.

After this point, leetic starts suspecting and talking about Wilgy. Here's Wilgy's response:

DrWilgy wrote:There was no "illusion" of wanting to give Quin a chance. I wanted to give Quin a chance and even stated so, but only because of my dislike of voting replacements. I asked a question hoping for resolution, but then had to vote for someone before time was up. Would you rather me random vote or not vote at all?
When leetic doesn't answer this rhetorical question, Wilgy starts to whine and talk about voting for him:

DrWilgy wrote:Voted Gleam for 7 way tie memes, and for not acknowledging me. If it wouldn't break the tie and had 2 votes, I'd vote Leetic as well. If Marmot was my dad I'd be DrWarmot, most definitely a Marmot Doctor.

DrWilgy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Voting Wilgy because he doesn't exist.

Zebra, would you ignore me?
What are you talking about? I don't understand any of this post.
Yay! Zebra doesn't hate me! *eyes sparkle as he leaps towards Zebra with open arms*

Gleam and Leetic hate me...

DrWilgy wrote:Leeeeeeeeeeeeeetic!

wanna respond to me now?

DrWilgy wrote:
Serge wrote:What posts, leetic have I not responded to? Go ahead, shoot.
I don't think leetic is qualified to give judgement based on lack of responses.

DrWilgy wrote:#votingleetictillhesdead

DrWilgy wrote:
leetic wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Ok. I analyzed Leetic as scum. Not civ minded. Manipulative with a thrown together art of ethos.

Tell me Leetic, why should Zebra keep that in mind in case Sig flips scum? Or are you going to dodge my question for another 48 hours?
Wow, trying to "analyze" me without giving any evidence. Nice.

Also, we should, since that is possible scummbuddying.
Evidence: You told everyone to apologize to Quin, emphasizing a "I didn't do anything wrong" attitude. Then when I responded to your analysis that had a question in it, you dodged the question for 48 hours. So 1. You inappropriately appealed which put yourself in a higher light and 2. You only read and respond to things that assist you rather than others.

You still have yet to answer that question from 48 hours ago.
This has to be one of the most aggressively irreverent NO U's I've seen in a while.

Of course, after leetic flips civ, Wilgy disappears from the thread for four days and doesn't ever reference leetic, or his feud with him ever again. huh.

Day 4: Wilgy is the last one to vote, and does so when the numbers are 2 to 6 in favor of lynching Serge. I think he knew Serge would flip civ, and voted MM to try and shift some blame away from himself by throwing away his vote.

He also never mentions MM as a potential lynch target before this, nor does he speak in favor of Serge. His decision in this lynch comes out of the blue.

Day 5: Wilgy decides early on to agree with Zebra's train against MM and vote him in the most verbose supportive way he could:

DrWilgy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I have just a tiny amount of doubt with my baddie read of sig, but that amount is still too big for me to not advocate Metalmarsh89 instead. That being said, I won't oppose a sig lynch or a Bullzeye lynch. Any other lynch I will strongly oppose.
K.
_______________________________________

To summarize, DrWilgy has voted to lynch civs with deliberately flimsy motives twice, one of which a clear NO U, while being sure to craftily insulate himself from any possible repercussions. He seems to float from poorly put-together train to poorly put-together train, and his one vote that goes against that was more or less a throw-away designed to score some free cred.

He's crafty, evasive as all hell, and the most suspicious person in the game.

Please at least consider him before you all go back to your tidy little lynch mobs and get rid of another civilian.

Sore wa chigao yo!

You are misreading me INH, and here's where:
So you get a 50% here. My game plan was to force questions that would get me involved with questioned player, but I didn't I used it to justify civ lynches. My votes were always on suspicion, for I would ask questions to those who are suspicious. Players I have questioned this game in regards to suspicion are you, Silver, Quin, Gleam, and Leetic... That's all I can remember off the top of my head. Players that I have received a response from were Leetic and you. While Leetic responded, he didn't respond to the question I was most concerned about that would've determined the root of my suspicion, also... I wasn't able to get on, reply and change my vote in time. I probably would've switched back to voting for Gleam, since it seemed that Leetic was making an effort to resolve my suspicion.

There's a difference between whining and seeking answers (I was doing both

). I'm unsure why you thought this question was rhetorical. This mirrors your questioning of me asking Rabbit his alignment. I think there's a lot you can take from a question like this. How they respond, do they respond directly, do they dodge the question? These things can be learned from these questions, that I think you fail to see the value of.

If shifting attention off me was the purpose then it didn't work. INH, would you say that what Serge had argued before he died didn't make sense?

Flimsy motive... probably once. Which one was the NO U? In regards to trusting Zebra. If someone you are hard civ reading gives a confident "I will oppose all other lynches" deeming them as stupid, isn't that worth putting some trust into?

I'm going to bed now

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:...
Sore wa chigau yo!

...

Is what I would've stated before the thread lock ate my post.
I'll redo it later, my head hurts now...
Is that a Danganronpa reference? I'm halfway through the first game and I'm in constant shock that it exists.
Yee.
It's like all of my disturbing suspicions of Teddy from Persona 4 were all proved grotesquely right.

I can't stop playing and I don't know why

because it's fun! Upupupupu!!

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:...
Sore wa chigau yo!

...

Is what I would've stated before the thread lock ate my post.
I'll redo it later, my head hurts now...
Is that a Danganronpa reference? I'm halfway through the first game and I'm in constant shock that it exists.

Yee.

insertnamehere wrote:...

Sore wa chigau yo!

...

Is what I would've stated before the thread lock ate my post.

I'll redo it later, my head hurts now...

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Quin wrote:INH, considering this is our last chance to lynch a baddie, it's about time you stopped debating what would and wouldn't convince you to vote someone and started advocate for your biggest scum read.

Who dat? y?
Right now, DrWilgy. His hardcore lobbying against Leetic combined with his screwy vote for Quin 1.0 combined with him jumping on the Metalmarsh bandwagon which is the most convenient option for him combined with his general in-thread flakiness makes him my biggest scum read right now.
Is... is this a NO U?
Nope. It'd be a NO U if my provided reason for voting you was simply because you voted me and that therefore made you suspicious. Instead, I listed four other reasons, and you haven't voted for me. You talking about me in the thread is incidental to my opinion of you, and try not to invalidate my argument because of it.
Well, then how about you back up the reasons provided here, I'm reading "I don't like what Wilgy did so he must be scum".
Do you want an ISO?

Because that's how you get an ISO.

(give me a little bit)

Yes please!

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Quin wrote:INH, considering this is our last chance to lynch a baddie, it's about time you stopped debating what would and wouldn't convince you to vote someone and started advocate for your biggest scum read.

Who dat? y?
Right now, DrWilgy. His hardcore lobbying against Leetic combined with his screwy vote for Quin 1.0 combined with him jumping on the Metalmarsh bandwagon which is the most convenient option for him combined with his general in-thread flakiness makes him my biggest scum read right now.
Is... is this a NO U?
Nope. It'd be a NO U if my provided reason for voting you was simply because you voted me and that therefore made you suspicious. Instead, I listed four other reasons, and you haven't voted for me. You talking about me in the thread is incidental to my opinion of you, and try not to invalidate my argument because of it.

Well, then how about you back up the reasons provided here, I'm reading "I don't like what Wilgy did so he must be scum".

insertnamehere wrote:
Quin wrote:INH, considering this is our last chance to lynch a baddie, it's about time you stopped debating what would and wouldn't convince you to vote someone and started advocate for your biggest scum read.

Who dat? y?
Right now, DrWilgy. His hardcore lobbying against Leetic combined with his screwy vote for Quin 1.0 combined with him jumping on the Metalmarsh bandwagon which is the most convenient option for him combined with his general in-thread flakiness makes him my biggest scum read right now.

Is... is this a NO U?

Hello Marmot friend.

Tell me what you think of INH. I'd like to either vote you or him.

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:INH, why did you tell Zeebs "K"?
Cause that's the only response I have for her.

Who are you thinkin bput voting?

INH, why did you tell Zeebs "K"?

Who subbed in for Goldy?

Out of living players, Marmot interacted with me, possibly Goldy's sub, INH, Bullzeye and Zeebs. Because Marmot friend is a crafty turnip, I can't tell if they are teammate interactions or not.

a2thezebra wrote:I have just a tiny amount of doubt with my baddie read of sig, but that amount is still too big for me to not advocate Metalmarsh89 instead. That being said, I won't oppose a sig lynch or a Bullzeye lynch. Any other lynch I will strongly oppose.

K.

Quin wrote:this wouldn't have happened if we lynched sig

Or me... But no one ever listens to Wilgy.

Aww... Potato girl...

Serge wrote:I just want to point out that before the day ends that if the number of votes for one person almost reaches the remaining townie population then there is probably something wrong. Well, good luck town.

I agree with this #saveserge

sig wrote:Wilgy has also been kind off fluffy, he does get more serious when someone leans on him though which might be good, but could also be a scummy move. I agree with whoever said we should watch him.

I have to go and do some college stuff, but I should be back on before the deadline.I'll finish my skims tomorrow when I don't have so much to do.

I'll watch you (if you know what I mean).

Sig I'm always serious

insertnamehere wrote:Sorry that my posts haven't made your brain release "civ-feeling" endorphins in your brain that make you want to not lynch me, unlike Zebra apparently who you want to protect due to past games you've played.

I've never played with you before Wilgy. You don't really have a civ and scum baseline to judge me with, so I honestly find your vote kind of incomprehensible.

I forgive you.

Rabbit, why do you dislike my vote? It's interesting that you would say this.

Serge... Why rabbit and I? I think I'm much more likely to be on a team with Vompatti and MM.

rabbit8 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:I feel that a Quin or INH lynch would reflect heavily on the other.
Could you elaborate on why you think that? I honestly don't know if you think we're teammates or on opposite teams.
Nah.

Rabbit, I don't think voting Zebra is beuno right now. Perhaps we vote INH together?
Why?

I could get down with voting INH. I had a feeling he might be bad early. Maybe the damn town we are fraking up is shtick?

Zebras playing too tame to be mafia. At least for now, I say we wait on her judegment.

I had the same feeling, and I'm getting it again. I'll vote INH.

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:I feel that a Quin or INH lynch would reflect heavily on the other.
Could you elaborate on why you think that? I honestly don't know if you think we're teammates or on opposite teams.

Nah.

Rabbit, I don't think voting Zebra is beuno right now. Perhaps we vote INH together?

I feel that a Quin or INH lynch would reflect heavily on the other.

Zebra, Rabbit, what do you think of INH?

Quin wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Let's lynch Metalmarsh89 already.
This is exactly what I mean when I said this:

insertnamehere wrote:aaaand we've learned nothing
We need to actually get back into the habit of discussing who we want to vote for instead of just tunnel-vision'ing one specific person. This shit is how scum wins games.
I'm all for that. Let's discuss things. Tell me who you think is bad and why. You're saying a lot of 'everyone stop the tunnel vision and analyse things!' but frankly, it feels to me like you're calling tunnel vision just because we aren't voting who you want us to vote for.

I'd like to contribute the idea that sig didn't vote yesterday and didn't address that when he returned. Kind of seems to me like he just didn't want the attention at EoD. He's got some pretty detailed scum reads on Serge, which I think is going to reflect on one another's alignment depending on who flips first.

So you think these two are on opposing teams?

insertnamehere wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Rabbit. You civ?
What answer are you honestly expecting?

Either a short or long one. Maybe a question within a question. How bout you?

Rabbit. You civ?

leetic wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Ok. I analyzed Leetic as scum. Not civ minded. Manipulative with a thrown together art of ethos.

Tell me Leetic, why should Zebra keep that in mind in case Sig flips scum? Or are you going to dodge my question for another 48 hours?
Wow, trying to "analyze" me without giving any evidence. Nice.

Also, we should, since that is possible scummbuddying.

Evidence: You told everyone to apologize to Quin, emphasizing a "I didn't do anything wrong" attitude. Then when I responded to your analysis that had a question in it, you dodged the question for 48 hours. So 1. You inappropriately appealed which put yourself in a higher light and 2. You only read and respond to things that assist you rather than others.

You still have yet to answer that question from 48 hours ago.

Ok. I analyzed Leetic as scum. Not civ minded. Manipulative with a thrown together art of ethos.

Tell me Leetic, why should Zebra keep that in mind in case Sig flips scum? Or are you going to dodge my question for another 48 hours?

a2thezebra wrote:Wilgy is civ.

Why?

I don't known how I missed your answer in linki.

a2thezebra wrote:I also think that sig is bad but I've been wrong about sig too many times to put my vote there...for now.

Zebra, how are you reading me currently?

leetic wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:#votingleetictillhesdead
What's your problem?

Definitely not this:

DrWilgy wrote:
leetic wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Yo MP!

What caused your townread on leetic? What caused your townread on Ikanosis?
Actually it was mostly the conversation that leetic and Epi had regarding policy lynches; they both seemed genuinely interested in town's best interests with their viewpoints. It's tentative though and heavily gut-based until I have voting data and such.
Thanks, I'm torn between voting Quin for the points I raised earlier with Silver and giving Quin another chance. (I just realized that I don't like killing those who sub in. I wonder why?)

Quin, could you resolve this for me?

...Okay. Why the hell would you ask Quin that? She’d obviously say that she wouldn’t want to be lynched (and in fact had said that previously) and this post just feels like an excuse not to vote.

DrWilgy wrote:Guess I'm voting Quin.
...Although he did end up voting Quin. He changed his opinion in light of the fact that there was very little time left in the phase (keep in mind Quin made no posts between these two). So why the above post? Maybe he wanted to present the illusion of giving Quin a chance, but was hasty after there was little time. DrWilgy is looking scummy.

At least snip my quotes correctly. I wasn't asking Quin to say "yeah go ahead and lynch me" or not, what I stated was this:
DrWilgy wrote:Quin, could you resolve this for me?
DrWilgy wrote:This all boils down to "I don't want people to read us together" but "we aren't opposing forces" and "Ika states that I'm civ", and that doesn't fit together.

There was no "illusion" of wanting to give Quin a chance. I wanted to give Quin a chance and even stated so, but only because of my dislike of voting replacements. I asked a question hoping for resolution, but then had to vote for someone before time was up. Would you rather me random vote or not vote at all?

DrWilgy wrote:Voted Gleam for 7 way tie memes, and for not acknowledging me. If it wouldn't break the tie and had 2 votes, I'd vote Leetic as well. If Marmot was my dad I'd be DrWarmot, most definitely a Marmot Doctor.

DrWilgy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Voting Wilgy because he doesn't exist.

Zebra, would you ignore me?
What are you talking about? I don't understand any of this post.
Yay! Zebra doesn't hate me! *eyes sparkle as he leaps towards Zebra with open arms*

Gleam and Leetic hate me...

DrWilgy wrote:Leeeeeeeeeeeeeetic!

wanna respond to me now?

DrWilgy wrote:
Serge wrote:What posts, leetic have I not responded to? Go ahead, shoot.
I don't think leetic is qualified to give judgement based on lack of responses.

Vote registered for Leetic

#votingleetictillhesdead

Serge wrote:What posts, leetic have I not responded to? Go ahead, shoot.

I don't think leetic is qualified to give judgement based on lack of responses.

Leeeeeeeeeeeeeetic!

wanna respond to me now?

rabbit8 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I'll switch my vote to agleaminranks then, just for you.

Odd....

*chews on rabbit's foot for good luck*

a2thezebra wrote:I'll switch my vote to agleaminranks then, just for you.

Yay! Maybe Gleam will respond to me now.

a2thezebra wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Voting Wilgy because he doesn't exist.

Zebra, would you ignore me?
What are you talking about? I don't understand any of this post.

Yay! Zebra doesn't hate me! *eyes sparkle as he leaps towards Zebra with open arms*

Gleam and Leetic hate me...

Voting Wilgy because he doesn't exist.

Zebra, would you ignore me?

Voted Gleam for 7 way tie memes, and for not acknowledging me. If it wouldn't break the tie and had 2 votes, I'd vote Leetic as well. If Marmot was my dad I'd be DrWarmot, most definitely a Marmot Doctor.

leetic wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Yo MP!

What caused your townread on leetic? What caused your townread on Ikanosis?
Actually it was mostly the conversation that leetic and Epi had regarding policy lynches; they both seemed genuinely interested in town's best interests with their viewpoints. It's tentative though and heavily gut-based until I have voting data and such.
Thanks, I'm torn between voting Quin for the points I raised earlier with Silver and giving Quin another chance. (I just realized that I don't like killing those who sub in. I wonder why?)

Quin, could you resolve this for me?

...Okay. Why the hell would you ask Quin that? She’d obviously say that she wouldn’t want to be lynched (and in fact had said that previously) and this post just feels like an excuse not to vote.

DrWilgy wrote:Guess I'm voting Quin.
...Although he did end up voting Quin. He changed his opinion in light of the fact that there was very little time left in the phase (keep in mind Quin made no posts between these two). So why the above post? Maybe he wanted to present the illusion of giving Quin a chance, but was hasty after there was little time. DrWilgy is looking scummy.

At least snip my quotes correctly. I wasn't asking Quin to say "yeah go ahead and lynch me" or not, what I stated was this:

DrWilgy wrote:Quin, could you resolve this for me?
DrWilgy wrote:This all boils down to "I don't want people to read us together" but "we aren't opposing forces" and "Ika states that I'm civ", and that doesn't fit together.

There was no "illusion" of wanting to give Quin a chance. I wanted to give Quin a chance and even stated so, but only because of my dislike of voting replacements. I asked a question hoping for resolution, but then had to vote for someone before time was up. Would you rather me random vote or not vote at all?

agleaminranks wrote:I don't know if I feel comfortable voting Quin. I didn't feel incredibly pinged by what I could read of Silverwolf's defensiveness. It sounded more character oriented than role.

Voting leetic.

@Gleam

DrWilgy wrote:Well you haven't tried too hard to read me then Gleam, because I've contributed more. I'll help you settle your frustration when you (if you) answer any questions that I've asked the group and stop saying that I don't do anything.

Guess I'm voting Quin.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Yo MP!

What caused your townread on leetic? What caused your townread on Ikanosis?
Actually it was mostly the conversation that leetic and Epi had regarding policy lynches; they both seemed genuinely interested in town's best interests with their viewpoints. It's tentative though and heavily gut-based until I have voting data and such.

Thanks, I'm torn between voting Quin for the points I raised earlier with Silver and giving Quin another chance. (I just realized that I don't like killing those who sub in. I wonder why?)

Quin, could you resolve this for me?

DrWilgy wrote:This all boils down to "I don't want people to read us together" but "we aren't opposing forces" and "Ika states that I'm civ", and that doesn't fit together.

I do like the way votes are spread though, we are on the right path.

Linki - Well you haven't tried too hard to read me then Gleam, because I've contributed more. I'll help you settle your frustration when you (if you) answer any questions that I've asked the group and stop saying that I don't do anything.

I'm like... 90% with Marmot friend.

Yo MP!

What caused your townread on leetic? What caused your townread on Ikanosis?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
sig wrote:
Quin wrote:Points of interest - pardon me for not drawing quotes, I can't be assed with that right now.

There's some fluff conversation between sig and wilgy early on. Wilgy joking about being scum isn't surprising, but I haven't seen that sort of thing from sig before. ika (Epi) picked up on sig too, but his reasoning just comes down to guts so it's credibility is something to be desired. Although, if sig ever flipped bad I think that would favour Epi somewhat.

Placing a resting vote on sig, because why not.

This all goes up to about page 5, but I've got to stop for a minute. I'll come back.
NO U
Quin

On a more serious note, I've joked around about being bad before. It was very early day 0 fluff there was no meaning behind it what so ever. I find it strange you're trying to give it a meaning when it was clearly fluffyness.
Is this a serious accusation? Or just bullshit NO U voted me, I'm voting you?

It's hard to tell since you guys, girls (some gender neutral nonsense here) just throw your votes around like their meaningless.
My vote is worth the same as everyone's, so I think it's meaningful.

Lucky. Mines -1.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:I'm fluffy...
Or you, in fact marshmallow?

I'm too full for marshmallow...

"Plz eat me Marmot Senpai. I know you are full, but I believe!" - Stale Marshmallow

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