The Syndicate

Lol, I should've skipped the NK night 8. Didn't think about the numbers until it was too late.

Gg, sorry the holidays kept me from voting on time.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I am considering voting DrWilgy. Based on his subtitution timing and activity since then, he's a less than ideal player to have in LYLO (no offense Wilgy).

I just wished we could have lynched him earlier.

I disagree but respect this notion.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well, regardless of whether Epignosis and Boomslang had BTSC or not, we still have these two rainbows from Quin/LoRab.

Quin wrote:Mafia Dawn Thoughts:

Epi
LoRab

Wilgy
Dom
3J
MM
sig

And they both listed Epignosis as civilian. Considering they're probably M=F and had a rolecheck, that's a read I can believe.

So you think JJJ and I are the remaining baddies still?

If BTSC is not the case then IDK again.

Marmot, in light of this what do you think of Epi?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:It let's me foresee cause and effect. If I can predict the effect before EOD it'll get me in the mindset where I can see entire plays.

Y'know those suspicions I can never explain? That's what those are. Me trying to read plays as a whole.

I see you as mafia baddie or SK. Based on current interactions I don't believe Epi to be bad.

Marmot would be the other unknown baddie.

Please tell me how you arrived at all three of those reads.

Can I tomorrow?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:In the situation where Marmot is a lone baddie after this day cycle. He wouldn't submit a kill, this would prevent a 1v1 end game coin flip. It'd probably end up 2v1 in Marmots favor.

I understand that mindset in a world where the 1v1 is a coin flip. It usually wouldn't be; indeed the game would end in any scenario where there aren't extra votes in play. Why do you assign this mindset specifically to Marmot?

I didn't tho. Epi wouLd probably be the same, but I think he would vote to kill Marmot instead of me.

When you project these future circumstances as you are, what is the purpose of that? What insight does it provide you about everyone else?

What is your read on me?

It let's me foresee cause and effect. If I can predict the effect before EOD it'll get me in the mindset where I can see entire plays.

Y'know those suspicions I can never explain? That's what those are. Me trying to read plays as a whole.

I see you as mafia baddie or SK. Based on current interactions I don't believe Epi to be bad.

Marmot would be the other unknown baddie.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:In the situation where Marmot is a lone baddie after this day cycle. He wouldn't submit a kill, this would prevent a 1v1 end game coin flip. It'd probably end up 2v1 in Marmots favor.

I understand that mindset in a world where the 1v1 is a coin flip. It usually wouldn't be; indeed the game would end in any scenario where there aren't extra votes in play. Why do you assign this mindset specifically to Marmot?

I didn't tho. Epi wouLd probably be the same, but I think he would vote to kill Marmot instead of me.

In the situation where Marmot is a lone baddie after this day cycle. He wouldn't submit a kill, this would prevent a 1v1 end game coin flip. It'd probably end up 2v1 in Marmots favor.

Do we know if SK can be NK'd

So here's what is up. All I have to go by is what may happen at this point. I've tried, but I can't go through 3000 posts.

Assuming both 1 baddie and SK are still alive, at least one of Marmot or EPI are bad.

If it's Marmot, and JJJ gets lynched at this point, I doubt he would take the kill. He would wager on Epi voting for me with him.

If it's Epi, I think the same would apply, but he may wager on me teaming with him to lynch Marmot.

I can't predict what'll happen if both.

So who of these 2 are bad? My gut is telling me that Marmot put himself in a good position if him being bad is the case.

I'm tinfoiling everyone at this point it seems.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epignosis: I'm left agreeing with MM's perspective of you after reviewing all the other combinations and isolating Golden as a likely Gasoline/Sunshine role. So I need you to listen to me. The civilian faction will lose the game if I am lynched whether you believe me or not.

Ask yourself one core question, please:

Why do I as a killing role stroll into a final phase with you alive, knowing full well that you've wanted me dead for much of the game? Why also do I decide to turn the crosshairs against you, the most difficult lynch on the board, unless it's what I really believe in?

Counter question. What would prompt you to kill Sig instead of Epi?

You admitted to not paying attention last night. Is that why you killed sig?

No, I just misspelled Epi's name

Why did you not submit a NK Marmot?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epignosis: I'm left agreeing with MM's perspective of you after reviewing all the other combinations and isolating Golden as a likely Gasoline/Sunshine role. So I need you to listen to me. The civilian faction will lose the game if I am lynched whether you believe me or not.

Ask yourself one core question, please:

Why do I as a killing role stroll into a final phase with you alive, knowing full well that you've wanted me dead for much of the game? Why also do I decide to turn the crosshairs against you, the most difficult lynch on the board, unless it's what I really believe in?

Counter question. What would prompt you to kill Sig instead of Epi?

I see... nvm then. Rip Golden.

Hmm... now that I thunk about it. SK and Mafia probably just targeted the same person.

JJJ did you consider this possibility?

Linki- Sorry Epi, I must've missed that.

Epi what do you think of marmot friend?

JJJ, if you had to vote to save yourself right now who would you vote?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy: thoughts on all three please.

Marmot - Civ, I don't see him PoE-ing Epi at this point if he were bad.

You and Epi may be both bad if there SK isn't dead. If the SK is dead, I think you are more likely to be bad JJJ, but this is purely tin foil at this point.

Linki - but I wanna go to beeeeed.

I plan on personally reviewing Dom tomorrow but for now I sleep.

I'd like for everyone to answer why they are alive.

I'm probably alive because I still don't know what is going on.

When was this simultaneous read made?

We're Quins's and LoRab's interactions indicative of being btsc buddies?

I didn't realize how close the game was to coming to a close when I subbed in lol.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Where's the accusation? Do you admit that you might win with an anti-civilian role? I think you did!

You implied BWT and/or I are going to defeat you, and unless you're calling yourself a baddie that implies an accusation.

BWT is ded tho...

So I reviewed BWT's day 4 posts and I don't understand where his suspicion of marmot friend came from.

Oh well.

I saw that he had thought vomps was bad. After re reading the roles, I'm unsure why he thought this as well.

Oh well.

I'm gonna look at votes next, but am stuck on mobile.

Voting 48h!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Um, I just want to lynch drwilgy, jay, and sig kthanks.

Y me tho

Yo, sorry. I thought I had another day

Would've voted Sig from what I read.

sig wrote:Also there comes a point where if we have to lynch silenced/insaneified people then that is what we have to do. Especially if the mafia is doing it to their own.

Where is there evidence of this?

Dom wrote:There are three players in contention for my vote today:

DrWilgy
Wilgy replaced BWT, my top suspect. I want to give the Doc a chance, but jeez, BWT looked bad to me. Prove me wrong, Doc.

Perhaps you could let me know why before I prove anything?

Hello everyone, my name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor.

I'm back from the dead and just checking in. I haven't read the thread since I died though.

That is fair Niju, but as I didn't even realise that's what he was doing it does make me inclined to think that you may be bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Yo Wilgy! Throw some reads at me, bud.

Later. A log in requirement just ate my gth on everyone...

Golden Friend I almost missed you! <33 it wasn't on purpose.

Oh! Hello Sock Friend and Skelator Friend!!

Linki - Hi boomslang too!

But bloops... I don't have time to read the thread and am only seeing bits and pieces.

I'm not going to pretend that I've read all of Epi's posts, but what I have read I gut read as bad.

Blooper Friend gth me.

Who would kill Vomps?

A day of mourning is required ;__;

#lynchepi is still a thing.

#lynchEpi

And that's fine, I'm not asking because I need you to tell me. I'm asking because I don't have the time to read and make an informed vote.

Thus I would like you to direct me to your best cases.

Linki- TY Timmer. As I don't believe this to be the same Jessica Jones Timmer, I'll vote trustin my gut with you.

Linki linki - no

Timmer, I'm glad you aren't rando voting lol.

Whom do you think I should vote?

Fight me bwt.

I'm as active and decisive as I can be right now.

What is your opinion on whom I should vote.

Quick vote dropping on Scotty. MP won my heart.

And no unfortunately. I haven't had a good baddie game in awhile. Getting murked day 1 in Epi's game put a damper on that.

Dom what do you think of my ability to read you?

Because I remembered seeing you. I didn't know if I had seen bloops this game, or if I was confusing games in my head.

Sig I remember seeing. As far as I did read, his opinion on PoE is similar to mine and I don't know how I feel about that.

I didn't know Epi was here.

I didn't quote Sloonei because I had no need to. The short posts Sloon provided had no questionable meat, so the question I asked followed suit.

What do you think of Sloon, Epi and Sig Boomslang?

Linki - Dom are you bad?

Why are there so many posts already? Someone engage with me so I can form reads or I'll eat Marmot's prized turnip.

Is Ninja bloopa here?!?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:No beef, mostly tofu

You see, I'm on a special diet of only civs and you aren't on the menu

Okay.

Why don't I satisfy your diet?

Because you are actually antlantian.

Good morning everyone!

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:You could've just stated that you don't know.

Sure, I suppose I could have, but I'm naturally notoriously verbose when I speak and type, and I apparently intend on keeping it that way.

Staaaaaahp

It makes me baddie read you.

It's too early in the game for my gut to be whispering sweet nothings.

@MP, your read and understanding is accurate. I would like to bring to attention the underlined regarding the matter.

This doesn't change my gut read of you, but in regards to voting for you, you have convinced me that I want to keep you alive... With scrutiny...

Goodnight beautiful people. I hope you have plesent lives while I rest my weary eyes.

I love you all.

That's exactly what a baddie would say.

Eh, I guess it was the mannerisms were just subject of my thoughts at the moment, but you are correct. This defined PoE playstyle is what has my feathers rustled. Your argument that it produces content doesn't settle my stomachache either as I know you have the potential to out tons of posts as a baddie just as you do while civvie.

Sloonei, are you bad?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I lost interest after reading PoE 3 times

JJJ and MP, are you teammates again?

If MP is town we are.

#redefiningteam #notonlybaddiesworktogether

Do you have a reason to suspect we're bad together?

Not so much suspect, more so concerned, ptsd from former games and all. Though I'm pretty sure it's mixed up in my head which game is causing it.

Linki @MP - idk. I think it's the PoE discussion along with your mannerisms. Declaring PoE as your playstyle gives you a means to stick to something and have at least have that method of play be true. Your mannerisms make it hard to read you in general.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:You could've just stated that you don't know.

Sure, I suppose I could have, but I'm naturally notoriously verbose when I speak and type, and I apparently intend on keeping it that way.

Staaaaaahp

It makes me baddie read you.

It's too early in the game for my gut to be whispering sweet nothings.

You could've just stated that you don't know.

I lost interest after reading PoE 3 times

JJJ and MP, are you teammates again?