The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:12 pm Just gonna throw this out there as I'm still reading up from 15 pages ago, the fact that Sloonei and I are still both alive at the same time would indicate to me that one of us was saved during the blamberfuckfest day 1.

I basically stopped talking after this post because it was completely on the money and any point I tried to raise against it would just look silly.

Lol, and I guess I didn't mind dying for it but you would.

Gg all.

I'll take my correct read of Sloonei as a small victory to forget this was a loss.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:00 am Wait were there really 3 people trying to no lynch... on day 3!?

I'm gonna need a real good explanation for that.

112, Soneji. It's time to form mechatroll. Wilgy gonna get a bullet tonight and us three are gonna melt faces k?

I believe in you

So the remaining baddies include Scirrus and MP.

Scirrus saved Sloonei day one, then bus voted sloonei today and hopped off the last second.

MP's record is harder to pin point but he's just as bad.

They had to kill epi yesterday as he had them pin pointed. Don't let his sacrifice to to waste.

Also this is excellent.

Now I get shot and don't have to continue my catchup.

Boom. We kill MP next.

Just gonna throw this out there as I'm still reading up from 15 pages ago, the fact that Sloonei and I are still both alive at the same time would indicate to me that one of us was saved during the blamberfuckfest day 1.

Also just looked towards voting pattern and I don't like Scirrus.

I'm back. No longer as stressed but still dealing with some medical testing so we'll see how conscious I am.

What did I miss? Anything anyone wants to point out?

Voting Sloonei.

Not in the right headspace to catch up and play right now. Will try to be back tomorrow.

Kill me if you want but kill sloonei and mp after.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:37 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:36 pm Ok legacy post because I'm dying for no reason it seems.

Epi's read of sloon early was accurate. Slooneis lines don't lead to solving the game here. Fuck "he's busy", I know he has better lines and hooks when he's civ. Sloonei is scum.

MP is also scum. His efforts feel pushed towards a narrative that he prefers. Please ISO reading him from both a forced narrative perspective and a townie one and ask which one makes sense.

TSP is being froggy and sketchy as hell. Jack may be bad.

Epi is good if sloon bad.

LC is good if MP bad.

I can't imagine you sincerely believe that

Right you won't beleive what doesn't serve you.

How the fuck could you get that interpretation from my posts?

Because you push angles and don't make them yourself!

Jesus fuck. First time in a year I try to genuinely super town.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:36 pm Ok legacy post because I'm dying for no reason it seems.

Epi's read of sloon early was accurate. Slooneis lines don't lead to solving the game here. Fuck "he's busy", I know he has better lines and hooks when he's civ. Sloonei is scum.

MP is also scum. His efforts feel pushed towards a narrative that he prefers. Please ISO reading him from both a forced narrative perspective and a townie one and ask which one makes sense.

TSP is being froggy and sketchy as hell. Jack may be bad.

Epi is good if sloon bad.

LC is good if MP bad.

I can't imagine you sincerely believe that

Right you won't beleive what doesn't serve you.

Nanook is also sketchy as hell but idk if he's bad with MP.

Ok legacy post because I'm dying for no reason it seems.

Epi's read of sloon early was accurate. Slooneis lines don't lead to solving the game here. Fuck "he's busy", I know he has better lines and hooks when he's civ. Sloonei is scum.

MP is also scum. His efforts feel pushed towards a narrative that he prefers. Please ISO reading him from both a forced narrative perspective and a townie one and ask which one makes sense.

TSP is being froggy and sketchy as hell. Jack may be bad.

Epi is good if sloon bad.

LC is good if MP bad.

What the hell?

This is 100% a scum save play

Ok why?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:48 pm MP, I'm starting to dislike your lines here.

I feel that you are drawing and encouraging lines of agreement and suspicion that aren't necessarily your own, but more so assist a narrative that is in your favor. I.e. you leave me in the null stating you don't know how you feel but at the same time leaving me at would lynch.

Your LC vote also piggy backing off Nanook.

I don't understand, what's the scum strategy I'm employing exactly?

Not sure if there's a term for it, but the encouragement of genuine town thoughts that give a scum benefit.

Linki: I think he's right re sloonei and his suspicion feels genuine.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:03 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:50 pm I would love to hear some impressions or leans or whatever you're comfortable with at this point. I don't have any impression of you right now except I like you and Jack is funny. Please give me something to work with.

You are good.
112 is good but I'm not as sure as I'm not used to them.
Sloonei is likely bad and in contrast Epi is likely good.
I'm open to Dad being added to my list of nicknames.
Jack being mia is nbd for the moment.
Nanook is somewhat sketchy.
I'm not going to pretend that I can ever read LC.

Does this satisfy you Jules or do you have any questions. Do my thoughts raise any questions?

Linki: M Plus 7 probably Nanook.

Yes, that helps me understand what you're thinking, thank you. My only question is what does "nbd" mean?

no big deal.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:53 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:32 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:07 am my meta of jack is that he doesn't lowpost. could anyone with more experience with him chime in?

In most of the games I have played with him he is not a low poster though I seem to recall sometimes he doesn't go all out right at the beginning. I would not say high posting is AI for him - my memory is he was posting up a storm to keep me from suspecting him leading up to our F3 with Lexi in Inception where he was bad and he also posts a lot as town.

Not excusing him, but there's a world where jack hosting the jack of jacking off has him jacking around too much to post today and there's also the jack attack that happened in corrupt that may have jack jack back from the lines of attack that we normally see as whack.

But Jack's game is not going yet so he's not yet hosting unless he's hosting somewhere else or I'm mistaken. What was the "jack attack" that happened in Corrupt that might have changed his play style? I don't have a firm opinion on him yet but it does seem odd that he's not posting more.

I didn't know if he was doing something behind the scenes or anything. Just recalled that I had signed up to jack off not too long ago.

The Jack attack I'm referring to is the Jack vs. nanook tangent that happened in corrupt... BUT I'm unsure if that would show impact here either.

The jist of what I'm saying, is that if there's one person I'd like to see more of before I form meta based opinions it's [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:49 pm The issue in not lynching Dys is that we don't know what his wincon is. That's the problem whenever someone claims 3P: they can lie about what they need to do to win, and so I don't think it's intelligent to wait until endgame to sort them. He might only be able to solo-victory.

I agree.

Theoretically we can wait to see if there's a gamestate danger of Dizzy existing, but there's even more confusion there.

This entire discussion highlights the loss of clarity claiming 3p causes that I had complained about previously.

Crackshot baddie list: Sloonei, MP, and Jack

Delimiters of this would be LC, Nanook and Epi.

MP, I'm starting to dislike your lines here.

I feel that you are drawing and encouraging lines of agreement and suspicion that aren't necessarily your own, but more so assist a narrative that is in your favor. I.e. you leave me in the null stating you don't know how you feel but at the same time leaving me at would lynch.

Your LC vote also piggy backing off Nanook.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:56 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:49 am

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:41 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:37 am

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:19 pm

No. I'm literally claiming third party. Or "independent" as you maybe call it here.

Ugh. I hate this post. Dammit Dizzy.

I hate this post.

Oho ho ho! Oh do tell me why?

It reads like you're faking emotion

Interesting as this does derive from a true conflict. Why would I desire to prevent Dizzy from winning vs clearing all variables necessary for victory.

Why would you say you hate my post instead of being upfront about the perceived fake emotion?

I don't understand your first question. I don't think all posts have to be read with intention behind them, and I don't think there was any intention readily discernible from that post. Sometimes scum are just trying to fill in their posts/up their involvement without doing anything additional to that.

And I like gauging responses. Your Santa Clause post read the same way as the first one to me. Now I have two artificial-feeling posts to read.

You mean "Why would I desire to prevent Dizzy from winning?" I'm assuming if we attempt to lynch Dizzy if they are 3p they can no longer win. If they can win along side civ, why would I not preffer that?

This is in contrast to what would be clearing all variables. Does the conflict make sense now?

Also this is fair. I'm believing that you are genuine here but incorrect.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:47 am I would vote Dizzy over Sloonei, but that's not saying much. I'd rather pressure some other folks before we lynch Dizzy if we're going to do that.

Why is it between the two here?

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:41 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:37 am

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:19 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:16 pmIt's perhaps that you're in your own head a bit too much here.

No. I'm literally claiming third party. Or "independent" as you maybe call it here.

Ugh. I hate this post. Dammit Dizzy.

I hate this post.

Oho ho ho! Oh do tell me why?

It reads like you're faking emotion

Interesting as this does derive from a true conflict. Why would I desire to prevent Dizzy from winning vs clearing all variables necessary for victory.

Why would you say you hate my post instead of being upfront about the perceived fake emotion?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:34 am I like Wilgy as Civ. I don't think Wolf Wilgy would jab at 3P-claimed Dizzy.

Why do we think this? It would be an easy move.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:19 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:16 pmIt's perhaps that you're in your own head a bit too much here.

No. I'm literally claiming third party. Or "independent" as you maybe call it here.

Ugh. I hate this post. Dammit Dizzy.

I hate this post.

Oho ho ho! Oh do tell me why?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:19 am

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:02 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:40 am @Scirrus besides them apparently being sort by post count, do you have actual objections to my no kill list? Do you think I have someone in the list that shouldn’t be?

If this is for D1, I'm actually fine with everyone in your list, except Sloonei. Like a lot of people think Sloonei is playing to his scum meta. So that qualifies them as a good lynch candidate at least imo. I wouldn't be super upset about lynching Dizzy either but there's the chance of his claim about not dying until N3 could be telling the truth?

I wouldn't like...hard clear most people in your giant list, because the chance of a misclear isn't that low when we're working with so many actives. But it's a good place to start

I mean yeah, it’s a D1 starting point, I’m not hard locking and never reconsidering, but you gotta start somewhere!

I pretty firmly believe in keeping sloonei alive until D3 at least

I somewhat agree with this. A scumloonbread would likely be outed by then.

What causes pause is the info we can gain on a correct d1 baddie lynch, how poorly I feel about sloonei being town, and the potential two mislynches before getting there.

I'd rather be right than passive seems to be the argument against this.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:08 am Just woke up, have read some of what was posted since I ducked out yesterday.

The culture on my homesite is to always lynch claimed 3Ps. Is it different here? I'd lynch Dys right now and it's not really close.

Not sure if there's a developed culture that reflects that here, but I think it's necessary for civ clear headed-ness, POE and successful scum hunting.

But I don't want to be that guy.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:14 am Wilgy didn’t say he’s a doctor? I know where my vote is starting

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:19 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:16 pmIt's perhaps that you're in your own head a bit too much here.

No. I'm literally claiming third party. Or "independent" as you maybe call it here.

Ugh. I hate this post. Dammit Dizzy.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:01 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:00 pm FG lives in Minneapolis so she gets a pass for the day imo

Oh fuck that's good to know. I hope you're doing OK and safe, @Funnygurl555

This. I hope for the best.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 pm

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.

Tell me a little bit about Sloonei

Does he have trouble keeping a town mindset as scum?

I agree that not wanting solid reads is not really a pro-town thing to say

But I feel like experienced scum would try to avoid saying things like that, because they would look bad. And he strikes me as an experienced player

I wouldn't say he does, maybe a bit. scum!Sloonei is a slightly hollow shell of town!Sloonei. I say if by a critical point in the game he is still alive and he hasn't Tonberry'd anyone (I'm describing it this way from now on, but basically he asks questions in a pester-y way especially when he gets answers he doesn't like, and then eventually STAB), then he's scum.

I like this. Not the plan but the term. I'm wearing my tonberry shirt right now actually.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:06 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 pm Who is the towniest player on day 1 I need to sheep them. Sorry I overstocked on games.

Probably epi or Jules.

Long Con Nanook if feelin frisky.

Hey I should be the towniest player.

yeah but sheeping you would be a nightmare lmao

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:49 pm

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:42 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:30 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:27 am Good morning all and welcome Scirrus!

So those tildes under Powers. Back in the old, old, old days that represented text that we were supposed to try and fill in to discover what was being said (in this case what powers are in the game). Anyone else remember the tilde exercises? I think I'll ask G-Man what the deal is and ask him to respond in the thread.

This post feels a bit wordier than it needs to be. Stressing that she’s going to ask G-man feels like she’s going out of her way to demonstrate her forward-thinkingness. But that’s more of a mild ping for juliets than it would be for others.

I was just trying to explain it clearly because I knew most people wouldn't be familiar with it. I'm not sure what you are saying about forward thinkingness but that's ok. You can explain later if you still have issues with it.

Like "I'm going to ask the host so that he can explain it to us, Fellow Townies."

There's not much you could say about this anyway. I'm more interested in hearing whether or not you've got any reads at this stage.

No. Just no. You no better than this.

What do you mean?

I'm assuming you are on the side of Sloonei and not Epi/Jules in this interaction?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:04 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:03 am

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:50 pm I would love to hear some impressions or leans or whatever you're comfortable with at this point. I don't have any impression of you right now except I like you and Jack is funny. Please give me something to work with.

You are good.
112 is good but I'm not as sure as I'm not used to them.
Sloonei is likely bad and in contrast Epi is likely good.
I'm open to Dad being added to my list of nicknames.
Jack being mia is nbd for the moment.
Nanook is somewhat sketchy.
I'm not going to pretend that I can ever read LC.

Does this satisfy you Jules or do you have any questions. Do my thoughts raise any questions?

Linki: @M Plus 7 probably Nanook.

elaborate on the Nanook read if you don’t mind?

But I do mind... Was just trying to lightly bus.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 pm Who is the towniest player on day 1 I need to sheep them. Sorry I overstocked on games.

Probably epi or Jules.

Long Con Nanook if feelin frisky.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:50 pm I would love to hear some impressions or leans or whatever you're comfortable with at this point. I don't have any impression of you right now except I like you and Jack is funny. Please give me something to work with.

You are good.
112 is good but I'm not as sure as I'm not used to them.
Sloonei is likely bad and in contrast Epi is likely good.
I'm open to Dad being added to my list of nicknames.
Jack being mia is nbd for the moment.
Nanook is somewhat sketchy.
I'm not going to pretend that I can ever read LC.

Does this satisfy you Jules or do you have any questions. Do my thoughts raise any questions?

Linki: [mention]M Plus 7[/mention] probably Nanook.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:45 amHey Wilgy!

Oh! Hey dude!

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:23 pm Good news, guys: I made a friend irl. gonna visit them later this week. it's good times here.

Excellent. I hope you enjoy yourself.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:29 pm Is Soneji always this quiet? It's been so long since I played with him I can't remember.

Si.

If I recall correctly Ji tends to big post between longer periods of break.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:32 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:07 am my meta of jack is that he doesn't lowpost. could anyone with more experience with him chime in?

In most of the games I have played with him he is not a low poster though I seem to recall sometimes he doesn't go all out right at the beginning. I would not say high posting is AI for him - my memory is he was posting up a storm to keep me from suspecting him leading up to our F3 with Lexi in Inception where he was bad and he also posts a lot as town.

Not excusing him, but there's a world where jack hosting the jack of jacking off has him jacking around too much to post today and there's also the jack attack that happened in corrupt that may have jack jack back from the lines of attack that we normally see as whack.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:50 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 am Regarding Sloonei, I can see him as a wolf personally. His questions don't seem to go anywhere

Everyone says this about me the first time we play together. A question on Day 1 can be valuable on Day 3.

I agree with this, but I've also seen your lines that actually lead places and haven't felt any of those yet.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.

I agree with this.

His lines felt fluffy. Good questions that lead nowhere or serve no purpose.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:40 pm Last time wilgy said he was a doctor and he was scum, this time he didn’t so he must be town.

SOLVED IT

Clearly.

How are you Nanook?

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:32 pm Dad where have you been all these years

Milk and cigs was a hell of a trip.

I have read 2 pages and Sloonbread is a baddum.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:28 pm Hello all. My name is DrWilgy and I AM YOUR FATHER.

Pleasure to meat you

i am both scared and excited to play with you again

As one should be! I look forward to this game with you as well.

Hello all. My name is DrWilgy and I AM YOUR FATHER.

Pleasure to meat you