The Syndicate

GG.

You played me into a corner Jay well done. I wish I had the stamina EoD 4 to have actually played out my vote on you.

Also half of me thinks was the open wolf hint now and my tinfoil won't let me stray from it tbh.

Like, how silly, but for real tho. The foresight.

Like, Sabi's claim that it was a pocket and that it was bad for being so, only cam after the flip.

Sabi in the post where Sparkles pocket begins was actually speaking good on Sparkles how I read it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:41 am What do you make of the idea that Sparkles tried pretty hard to pocket Sabi? That’s a significant driver of my town read.

I think Sabi's response to it is awkward. When I was rereading it last night Sabi doesn't really speak negatively about it in the moment. That's what made me think it's meh.

I think a good point of comparison would be like how I was with Nook and actively opposed the blind sheeping. I didn't see that from Sabi, and that's what I'd think I'd see a town do if they are actually opposed to a presumed pocket?

I'm dying and should probably just lay back down.

Give it the whole "fukkiiiiiiiit" treatment.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:16 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:02 am I'm changing my vote to [VOTE: Sabi ] aubergine and setting an alarm.

Got one shot for mom's spaghetti I guess.

I know Sabi is traveling, but I don't know if Sabi autos this much f3. Plus my re-reads really weakened my town read on Sab while also weakening my W read on Jay.

I can now see that there is a scenario, where EoD Jay becomes so wrapped up in my vote shift where MAYBE he can beleive that he spooked me out of a snipe. I still think that's ridiculous, but MAYBE there's room for Jay to believe it. Especially if he's emotionally invested in fighting against the jay f3 paranoia which he keeps bringing up.

I'll think about this and wake up in 5 or so hours I suppose.

What do you mean by “autos”

I just feel a lack of engagement, but Sabi did say they'd be gone so the point is relatively moot and more of a "I don't like it, I guess we lose" type thing?

If she's W she just doesn't need to show up, if she's V it's because of the timing so w/e.

@Sabiplz, I'd like your brain plz. May I consume it?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:12 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:47 am Ugh,

Further reading of Jay's actual posts regarding the EoD, and maybe he is just paranoid town.

Emphasis on "I hate that" perhaps suggests that he legitimately believed I was trying to snipe him, and in him believing that maybe, just maybe he also believes that I was spooked off him.

Jay, even when sleepy, and I cannot iterate this louder. I take the 50/50 with Nook if possible 100% of the time.

I think the current alignment would leave mafia you with something resembling a 50/50. Sabi voiced paranoia about me before this phase. They and I also represent players who take some amount of care and listen, while both Nanook and falcon shoot from the hip.

I think that's just wrong. A 50/50 does not get made when you are alive with Sabi, your T read on them the day prior and Sabi's general tone towards you I think implies that this f3 before anything else was a 70/30 at start.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:08 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:23 am I just went through Sabi on Esooa again.

idk, I just don't think it's Sabi. I really don't see that case coming from wolf. I could be wrong, but rn the effort that went into that push when it happened at least feels like it's from a town mindset.

This is one of my sticking points. This is a read that could use some expansion, and it’s critical to this final 3. Even if you have since changed your mind, I need to better understand what led you here while you were here.

What was it exactly about the “effort” and the timing of Sabi’s Esooa case that had compelled you? What distinguished them from any instance of any player giving an effort?

I'm not sure what you want here?

Like, the tone and request to yeet Esooa seem like they are coming from someone who believes they are correct as opposed to someone who is looking for a push. There is urgency on Sabi during Esooa yeet that I don't think would be present in wolf.

I'm changing my vote to [VOTE: Sabi ] aubergine and setting an alarm.

Got one shot for mom's spaghetti I guess.

I know Sabi is traveling, but I don't know if Sabi autos this much f3. Plus my re-reads really weakened my town read on Sab while also weakening my W read on Jay.

I can now see that there is a scenario, where EoD Jay becomes so wrapped up in my vote shift where MAYBE he can beleive that he spooked me out of a snipe. I still think that's ridiculous, but MAYBE there's room for Jay to believe it. Especially if he's emotionally invested in fighting against the jay f3 paranoia which he keeps bringing up.

I'll think about this and wake up in 5 or so hours I suppose.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:03 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:07 pm I don't think it satisfied wolf wincon in the moment. I.e. a wolf's timing on that push is awkward.

If Sabi was wolf, the Esooa push would've happened after nook yeet.

That seems like a very generous interpretation. They’re both town. Chopping them in any order is great, especially if Esooa (a player who is often aggressive) can be silenced first.

These are snap reads that can make some sense earlier in the game, but now is final 3. It feels like you’re trying to justify a read (Sabi town) instead of truly explore it.

Why do you imply these are snap reads? I've had Sabi as town most of the game. Just however this comes to mind when comparing who's trying to wolf wincon.

Also you disparage the read as snap, but technically we are currently with the most information possible. Shouldn't now the peices of the puzzle be coming together?

That’s precisely what I mean. Sabi has been a town read for most people all game long. And yet they’re right here with us. That demands some kind of exploration, and to default right to “town read” again without doing that is similar to making a “snap read” (not exactly like something on Day 1, but the spiritual equivalent in this game state). I have thought Sabi is town this game too, but there has to be some inkling of doubt. I don’t know how you can so easily make that judgment right now, and the rationale is questionable.

But it's not a snap read. We are down to you two? I have you and Sabi to compare to and right now I think the best thing to hunt by is who is executing for a strictly mafia based win condition? Who's manipulated and who's pushed?

I don't think W Sabi leaves you alive in addition to the Esooa push.

I do think you leave Sabi alive who has had the firm 'he's not so towny' stance, and you haven't had any play that indicates that you aren't shooting for the wolf win this cycle.

I've decided that this was false during my quick catchup. Sabi leaving you alive seems like an easy play now that I've re read most of your posts day 4.

Now I ask myself, am I smarter than multiple dead townies?

Ugh,

Further reading of Jay's actual posts regarding the EoD, and maybe he is just paranoid town.

Emphasis on "I hate that" perhaps suggests that he legitimately believed I was trying to snipe him, and in him believing that maybe, just maybe he also believes that I was spooked off him.

Jay, even when sleepy, and I cannot iterate this louder. I take the 50/50 with Nook if possible 100% of the time.

Damn, I re-read Jay with a ctrl f on sparkles and I saw the same shit that made me take him out of PoE earlier.

Definitely would be a SUPER hard bus if Jay took that route.

Also while it's on the mind, my towncase is this:
I don't leave JJJ alive while Falcon was voting him yesterday if possible.

I don't kill Falcon going into f3. I think if I were wolf I'd kill Sabi and let Falcon pick between Nook who would've been alive and me 99% of the time. That's just the easiest line and I don't see a scenario where I never play to that line.

I did hark a suspicion for Sparkles day 1, even if I wished to encourage other discussion around them and landed on OW, I do think I explained that quite thoroughly and also expressed that Sparkles was just as much on the chopping block.

Moving onto a quick reread of Jay's stuff. idk, I'm pretty sold on it being Jay so it'll honestly be hard for me to find sway to the latter, but I'll attempt to read it with that in mind at least.

Also just wanted to apologize to town if the fact that about now is the only real time every other day I've been able to look at the thread for any extended amount of time is about to lose us the game.

I just went through Sabi on Esooa again.

idk, I just don't think it's Sabi. I really don't see that case coming from wolf. I could be wrong, but rn the effort that went into that push when it happened at least feels like it's from a town mindset.

I guess Sabi kinda ignoring my last response rubs me the wrong way. Like they expressed their concerns with me, voted and peace'd out in spite of posting after I had responded to junk.

Esooa wanted Jay.
Nook wanted Jay.
Falcon wanted Jay.

I don't know how it's not Jay when I think about that.

They could be wrong? I'm continuing my Sabi assessment now.

Just running through Sabi and JJJ one more time in reference to Sparkes to see what I think.

Will try to look at Sabi's push on Esooa again. Honestly not that it matters, pretty sure we are locked at this point but alas.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:07 pm I'm kinda meh on sparkles. It feels too easy. I have zero meta on her so I will sheep yall.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:09 pm @MissSparkles to save everyone a giant wallpost of quotes:

whats your take on me? tbh i dont know why i quoted this so rather then make the effort of backspacing ill ask u a questionn.

I currently didn't have a solid opinion with your early start. I have heard before this game that you were coming out of retirement and wanted games so I guess the rust played a part with the awkwardness.

I kinda did share a kinship over playing with a lot of emotions.

I do like your posts since you came back the game. Feels a bit pockety but whatever. I'm easy.

×××

Do you feel the same way about Alison? I felt ALISON EXAGGERATED IN RESPONSE HERE AND CAME OFF QUITE DEFENSIVE.

Yes but also that's NAI for Alison. She is very policy heavy in terms how she plays. Not my play style but it's hers.

×××

Do you also consider me LHF? So yea this is why im mindmelding and liking your takes, im calling you town on mindmeld.

Idk I haven't played with you but I know others have said you were good and tend to do a lot as a player. You don't have arep of being a slank so I guess I don't view you as a lhf

Meh, it's actually worse than I thought. In previous review I stated sparkles spewed Sabi, but looking just at Sabi, there's not much to warrant Sabi's not a teammate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:41 am Hiya hes, shes, and theys

mfw Sabi put sparkles here because they are teammates.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:33 pm Him "thinking" that fear of backlash got me off him last cycle is still an absolutely preposterous claim.

No it isn't. You placed a vote in the middle of the night, and I wasn't supposed to be there to fight it. That creates a unique situation, and I don't think the explanation you're shoving down my throat is the one that has to be true or even makes the most sense.

There are other things about you that I find suspicious. You can continue to harp on this, but it's unlikely to change my mind. I need to see you talk about Sabi in a meaningful way.

If I wanted to snipe you, why did our interaction happen hours before EoD? In the middle of the night isn't a moment before EoD, so if I was sniping, why did it come with room for you to respond? Hell, setting an alarm isn't hard, if sniping you was my goal I 100% just do it before EoD. Your argument doesn't make sense Jay.

If it's a snipe, why do it with time before EoD?

If it's a snipe, why didn't I commit?

Again, there's no saving you if Falcon wasn't around. Does a Wolf Wilgy ever choose to enter last day with Nook over you?

And I will continue to harp on this, this is critical for understanding and explanation. You can't answer those questions honestly and I think it's because you know I was just doing what I thought to do in the moment without much real thought otherwise.

The deadline is at the crack of dawn. Both of us have to sleep. You’re not going to hang around literally all night waiting to snipe, and doing it unannounced right at the deadline creates suspicions of its own. These are not compelling questions. If I am literally unconscious, then it’s functionally the same thing at 3:30am or at 8:30am.

You can keep yelling about this. There is a whole game behind you.

I don’t think your Sabi read today looks real.

I think you fit with Sparkles by association.

I think your engagement with the game tanked commensurate to the mafia win outlook.

I think you’re out of your town meta.

you assume I know when you are and are not conscious. If you legitimately believe your arguments based on me making sleep schedule assumptions you will lose this game.

4 hours is literally wild amount of time.

How is my Sabi read fake? You want me to somehow W read both you and Sabi?

How do I fit with Sparkles by association? I'm pretty sure you yourself said that I had decent cred against sparkles based on my assessment of threadstates super early d1.

Yes, I went through surgery and still feel like shit. I've still supplied what data I can.

Since when do I have a town meta? I used to be a very consistent misyeet, and still think I am for the most part.

Also @Sabiplz, energy will literally never be a tell for me.

Feel free to iso my other games.

The rate that I play is strictly related to IRL and potential time allocation.

I would like your thoughts on the other two points I made previously though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:33 pm Him "thinking" that fear of backlash got me off him last cycle is still an absolutely preposterous claim.

No it isn't. You placed a vote in the middle of the night, and I wasn't supposed to be there to fight it. That creates a unique situation, and I don't think the explanation you're shoving down my throat is the one that has to be true or even makes the most sense.

There are other things about you that I find suspicious. You can continue to harp on this, but it's unlikely to change my mind. I need to see you talk about Sabi in a meaningful way.

If I wanted to snipe you, why did our interaction happen hours before EoD? In the middle of the night isn't a moment before EoD, so if I was sniping, why did it come with room for you to respond? Hell, setting an alarm isn't hard, if sniping you was my goal I 100% just do it before EoD. Your argument doesn't make sense Jay.

If it's a snipe, why do it with time before EoD?

If it's a snipe, why didn't I commit?

Again, there's no saving you if Falcon wasn't around. Does a Wolf Wilgy ever choose to enter last day with Nook over you?

And I will continue to harp on this, this is critical for understanding and explanation. You can't answer those questions honestly and I think it's because you know I was just doing what I thought to do in the moment without much real thought otherwise.

Him "thinking" that fear of backlash got me off him last cycle is still an absolutely preposterous claim.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:15 pm I just can't stop overlooking Wilgz high energy D1 and then fall off (yes he had surgery but also wim falls when ur maf partner dies D1).

He voted Nook for not a solid reason D1 to try to counter sparkles after the lucy wagon died.

His tr on me doesn't have his own opinion. It's just facts and he hasn't questioned me or anything.

Idk if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

But I'm voting Wilgz.

Ask me anything

Noon was blind sheeping me all day, why would I not vote there to discourage the behavior?

I have In fact questioned you. I even threw out a potential scum read after Alison and Outed we're yeeted. We engaged and I revoked the read because I didn't think it any further.

Right now I town read you because I don't think Jay's play this cycle and being alive are town indicative for him.

Yeah, I'll try to take an unbiased look at you and sabi in a moment as I gotta double check.

I just don't think I'm wrong here though.

I don't see how a town Jay doesn't come to the same conclusion that I would've just day yeeted him had I been wolf.

Actually, I think I may have been one of the last people to give Sabi a hint of 'you might be w' and that happened when like Esooa was alive?

Yeah, Sabi aint it. If Sabi was wolf I don't know if Falcon dies before me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:17 pm Alright, and again, why would I move back if I'm wolf? You fail to acknowledge that my best shot for wining would've been right there if I was wolf and I chose to toss it away.

I’m saying that if you’re mafia, you don’t intend to move back. But then I show up out of the blue, make a stink, and scare you back to the Nanook wagon. If I am dead and everyone sees my town flip, my words carry weight in final 3. It was unexpected that I’d even have the chance to leave that legacy that late at night. It breaks the strategy, or at least it can.

Then I have a 1v1 with Nook and let Sabi pick between us. Sweet.

Why would I EVER keep you alive. What would I have to be afraid of? Nook would still be alive.

And maybe I'm wrong, sabi's the wolf and you are presenting a completely practical read of me that's just incorrect. I'm like 75% though on that not being the case.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:07 pm I don't think it satisfied wolf wincon in the moment. I.e. a wolf's timing on that push is awkward.

If Sabi was wolf, the Esooa push would've happened after nook yeet.

That seems like a very generous interpretation. They’re both town. Chopping them in any order is great, especially if Esooa (a player who is often aggressive) can be silenced first.

These are snap reads that can make some sense earlier in the game, but now is final 3. It feels like you’re trying to justify a read (Sabi town) instead of truly explore it.

Why do you imply these are snap reads? I've had Sabi as town most of the game. Just however this comes to mind when comparing who's trying to wolf wincon.

Also you disparage the read as snap, but technically we are currently with the most information possible. Shouldn't now the peices of the puzzle be coming together?

That’s precisely what I mean. Sabi has been a town read for most people all game long. And yet they’re right here with us. That demands some kind of exploration, and to default right to “town read” again without doing that is similar to making a “snap read” (not exactly like something on Day 1, but the spiritual equivalent in this game state). I have thought Sabi is town this game too, but there has to be some inkling of doubt. I don’t know how you can so easily make that judgment right now, and the rationale is questionable.

But it's not a snap read. We are down to you two? I have you and Sabi to compare to and right now I think the best thing to hunt by is who is executing for a strictly mafia based win condition? Who's manipulated and who's pushed?

I don't think W Sabi leaves you alive in addition to the Esooa push.

I do think you leave Sabi alive who has had the firm 'he's not so towny' stance, and you haven't had any play that indicates that you aren't shooting for the wolf win this cycle.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:11 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:05 pm So answer me this, if I'm wolf, what incentive did I have to move back? Falcon was still on you right?

Feels like that not trying for that yeet would've been a massive misplay in the context of me being wolf as you had already said the PoE was Nook and I.

If you’re mafia then the play didn’t work. My roommate’s dog was literally keeping me awake, so I hopped in and happened to see it. Then I broadcast exactly what the motive would be. Moving back is, in that world, an abort mission.

Your vote was already on the counter wagon. It would've been up to Falcon and Nook to be up and to shift. Why would've I aborted for YOU specifically?

I'd understand this argument if it was Falcon saying 'nah' but that didn't happen.

The point is that, if you’re mafia, that wasn’t a reaction test and you probably didn’t expect me to show up and say anything about it.

Alright, and again, why would I move back if I'm wolf? You fail to acknowledge that my best shot for wining would've been right there if I was wolf and I chose to toss it away.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:07 pm I don't think it satisfied wolf wincon in the moment. I.e. a wolf's timing on that push is awkward.

If Sabi was wolf, the Esooa push would've happened after nook yeet.

That seems like a very generous interpretation. They’re both town. Chopping them in any order is great, especially if Esooa (a player who is often aggressive) can be silenced first.

These are snap reads that can make some sense earlier in the game, but now is final 3. It feels like you’re trying to justify a read (Sabi town) instead of truly explore it.

Why do you imply these are snap reads? I've had Sabi as town most of the game. Just however this comes to mind when comparing who's trying to wolf wincon.

Also you disparage the read as snap, but technically we are currently with the most information possible. Shouldn't now the peices of the puzzle be coming together?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:05 pm So answer me this, if I'm wolf, what incentive did I have to move back? Falcon was still on you right?

Feels like that not trying for that yeet would've been a massive misplay in the context of me being wolf as you had already said the PoE was Nook and I.

If you’re mafia then the play didn’t work. My roommate’s dog was literally keeping me awake, so I hopped in and happened to see it. Then I broadcast exactly what the motive would be. Moving back is, in that world, an abort mission.

Your vote was already on the counter wagon. It would've been up to Falcon and Nook to be up and to shift. Why would've I aborted for YOU specifically?

I'd understand this argument if it was Falcon saying 'nah' but that didn't happen.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:06 pm It is kind of hard to believe that was a reaction test at what would have been 2:30am for you.

Depends on if you think I put thought into the reaction test. If I didn't get a response, I'd have either 1. Accidentally fallen asleep or 2. Changed it back after digesting nook thoughts.

The other half of me doing that was to see how I felt about it. Visualization and such.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:05 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:03 pm I think the way I see this game is simply this:
Jay hasn't done anything that would imply he's not playing a wolf win con.

Sabie's efforts on Esooa, didn't satisfy a wolf wincon. W Sabi I don't think cases and foils a towny that hard.

So [VOTE: Jay] aubergine.

Advise me as to why I'm wrong before we lose the game here.

How does casing and chopping town (Esooa) not satisfy the mafia win condition?

It doesn’t have to make Sabi mafia, but I don’t see how you discard the possibility.

I don't think it satisfied wolf wincon in the moment. I.e. a wolf's timing on that push is awkward.

If Sabi was wolf, the Esooa push would've happened after nook yeet.

So answer me this, if I'm wolf, what incentive did I have to move back? Falcon was still on you right?

Feels like that not trying for that yeet would've been a massive misplay in the context of me being wolf as you had already said the PoE was Nook and I.

I think the way I see this game is simply this:
Jay hasn't done anything that would imply he's not playing a wolf win con.

Sabie's efforts on Esooa, didn't satisfy a wolf wincon. W Sabi I don't think cases and foils a towny that hard.

So [VOTE: Jay] aubergine.

Advise me as to why I'm wrong before we lose the game here.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:52 pm @DrWilgy you were doing a reaction test in the middle of the night? It’s frankly a miracle I was even awake. It was quite literally 3:30am in Ohio. What is your time zone?

Central.

And yes. Just to see if anyone would respond. Kinda a late night can't sleep let's look at the thread.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:46 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:36 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:30 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:28 am My top town read is Sabi. falcon follows. Wilgy’s mafia prospects increase if he kills me here and walks into final 3 with Nanook. The two of them would need to be thoroughly examined and made to answer for themselves. No matter who is there though, give due scrutiny. I don’t want to see “I’d rather lose to X than Y” or any such thing. Play to win, no matter who.

Calm down. Explain this one.

If you’re mafia, then Nanook is town and the agenda would be apparent. Killing any town here other than Nanook leaves a wide ass open door to close it out in the next cycle.

Mafia can wifom that with their kill, but I really don’t care. In that scenario I want to ensure you are forced to answer for yourself. Why did you move your vote back?

Reiterating this question for Wilgy.

I do think your response of it's agenda ish is kinda bullshit.

I keep trying to go through and think it, but it feels as if that one is just wrong.

Yes I moved back because I knew I wasn't at capacity to assess, but when I was in the edge of realizing Nook wasn't it, suddenly that's an agenda as opposed to going through the process of changing PoE?

And I say it's kinda bullshit because I don't know if T Jay would actually think it's an agenda or not.

Town Jay claims agenda play, but that would imply that he's hardstuck to his PoE? I don't think town Jay gets stuck in his PoE.

Wolf Jay claims agenda play in effort to validate that the nook yeet was right in spite of it being town?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:59 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:13 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:09 am Yes

thots

My thots are that idk Wilgz had changed his vote? I need him to talk about the eod from his perspective first.

@DrWilgy

I was starting to grow uneasy at Nook yeet.

Like I said earlier it didn't feel like they were playing to win. I don't know if a wolf doesn't play for a win con there.

Moved to JJJ to put some pressure and see how he'd react. I got a response and changed the vote back because I was afraid that I'd fall asleep with the vote there before I could critically assess.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:00 pm Is Wilgz frozen and crying in wolf chat

Help I need to be thawed.

No, I feel like shit still and I'm starting to just be really bummed about not being able to do normal things.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:28 am My top town read is Sabi. falcon follows. Wilgy’s mafia prospects increase if he kills me here and walks into final 3 with Nanook. The two of them would need to be thoroughly examined and made to answer for themselves. No matter who is there though, give due scrutiny. I don’t want to see “I’d rather lose to X than Y” or any such thing. Play to win, no matter who.

Calm down. Explain this one.

oki

I choose chaos

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:17 pm I hope this is right

idk if it was the Esooa flip, but I'm now filled with doubt.

Has it been made known what happens in the advent of a tie?

@MacDougall

I have obtained more painkillers so we'll see if I'm in a state of being able to critically think in a few hours.

I'm just hung on the thought, is Nook playing to a Mafia wincon?

I suppose so? Maybe he was just locked into this line after day 1. This line ultimately is NAI.

So in my skim I've found that I've been added to PoE.

Falcon I understand. I read this as a tinfoil and his theory (while generally too big brain for me I'd say in meta) contradicts in the fact that if I am Mafia I would've 100% bussed sparkles had my goal laid in some awareness of how out of it I'd be post op.

Sabi I understand. Sabi's always left me open as an option, not necessarily believing the d1 effort to be a town spew.

JJJ, I find your addition of me to the PoE concerning. When comparing the analysis you provided of me to Falcon, what I saw in your Falcon review was that you had to look at much granular information to find town arguments and that there were few arguments for finding me in scum range. Why do I feel that there is a contradiction here as you add me to PoE and not Falcon?

Nook, you are a wombat.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:33 am @DrWilgy I hope your head feels better dude.

I think it's side effect of me running out of painkillers. I'm still out of it tbh.