The Syndicate

Damn, I didn't realize that we had been in this dead day hell for over 48 hours now.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:51 am tbh wilgy i'm just paranoid after the last time you wolfed against me lol but I think what you've posted today was town so I'm trying very hard to not tinfoil myself but also like the poe is small and idk what i'm doing

idk what i'm doing maybe I'd be okay with just going neon tomorrow cuz idk how to sort her this game

I feel that a fixation on me is normal as I am purposely hard to read from game to game, however a fixation should be judged equally against other game aspects.

Why Neon exactly? What did you think on Neon's position towards your slot?

But also, post count aside, I think Porscha has plenty of AI data.

I really only think LHF would apply to those who don't have a lot of AI information. At this point in the game, I think there's plenty of AI data on most players.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:20 pm Aye, so level 1, what makes Porscha LHF? You being LHF I think I'd agree with, Neon would be the other LHF I think, but not Porscha.

level 2, Rico did at least detail and isolate a means to put people in different tiers of PoE. It never felt like they just went after the easiest option.
Afaik shes not spoken much?

Has more posts than me

DeeZees wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:14 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:28 pm What's the immediate opposition to the Deezees/Porscha team?
I mean you aee pushing it as the team

So

It is the most lhf team

How does me, questioning this as a team make it the lhf?

Aye, so level 1, what makes Porscha LHF? You being LHF I think I'd agree with, Neon would be the other LHF I think, but not Porscha.

level 2, Rico did at least detail and isolate a means to put people in different tiers of PoE. It never felt like they just went after the easiest option.

It's honestly more so how you went about it.

You felt inclined to staple the "Rico's PoE is LHF" to a suspension that didn't have very much data. An excuse to vote there when none was needed. I even agreed that Rico was probably a fine lunch based on momentum.

The LHF argument was both uneeded and I think just false.

And like, I get it.

Misinterpretation can happen. Like where you were at asking about my proposed Deezees/Porscha team. I didn't mean to imply that was THE team. Only a possibility based on current PoE. I just haven't done the dig on that one yet.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:10 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:04 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:51 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:34 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:28 pm What's the immediate opposition to the Deezees/Porscha team?
I never said I opposed it at all?
"I’ll be completely honest that none of these pairings are really grabbing me and making much sense"

This is just a gut feeling then?
No, none of the pairings really make sense, Porscha/Neon is moreso a “Porscha and Neon individually look the worst so then as a pairing makes the most sense in that respect”

Also, me saying that no teams make sense =/= “I am opposing a Zeus/Porscha team”, that is a very bad-faith push
I see. Misinterpretation.
In all honesty, how could you misinterpret it that badly?

Feels abit rude but ok.

I would think that a pairing not making sense I think implies greatly you don't see the team combo.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:09 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:49 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:24 am Speculative teams for Deezees would be
Deezees/Porscha
Deezees/Iawy

I don't think it's Deezees/Neon as within a few posts yesterday there was a theoretical chop Rico chop Neon proposed. I don't think a teammate throws that out there like that.
What pairs Zeus together with Porscha or myself FYPOV?
I've not yet assessed Porscha and Deezees connection. I'm afraid that I'm too far biased on Porscha as it stands so I'm taking a temporary step back. I raised the subject as I do not recall anything that is invalidating it.

You, however, have several posts that are Null to looking good, to outed wolf over the past few cycles.
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:47 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:37 pm I understand, thanks for your explanation

What do you think about Neon and Zeus?
I did talk about them above, but TL;DR Zeus is probably the most null for me atm, but slightly townie-leaning. Neon has been getting away with not doing a whole lot, and when finally called out on it last night, they spent more time being defensive and blaming others for ‘not letting them show that they’re town’ than actually showing others that they’re town

It came across to me like “stop pushing me and then I will solve”, and when you’ve been getting a free pass since the Lily vote to do exactly that and have produced barely anything except a string of tunnels on flipped townies/NPCs and zero mafia, it doesn’t sit right with me for obvious reasons

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:42 pm Zeus looks good from Vivax spew in the matter’s ISO. It’s beginning to mean less and less as the number dwindle and Zeus is called upon to actively contribute reasons to be townie alongside it, but is still a really valid thing to consider

Which makes me wonder why Zeus is even an attempted wagon option today

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:06 pm Zeus, are you being heavily sarcastic with all these agreements, or are you basically outing yourself?
Ultimately your progression can be teammate indicative.
You’re gonna have to manually draw the lines between these three specific dots

My going back and forth on a Zeus read all day is well-documented and explained multiple times. RE: the second post, I have consistently stated that I think Zeus looks good from Vivax spew, but you didn’t quote the posts where I explained RE: the first post that the biggest part of my read on Zeus is the spew, which means less and less as the game goes on, which is why he ended up as a NLT. RE: the third post, quoting just my post misses the context of Zeus’ posts I was responding to

I don't see what lines there are to draw there? Your lines of thinking on Deezees shifted over the course of some thinking you had, Deezees responded to the thinking, then you implied that "maybe he's open wolfing?"

Yes it's well documented, I grabbed the ones that I thought were key as they had a form of conclusive thoughts, and put them for reference? Even with the other quotes I don't see anything that invalidates the you/Zeus team combo.

I don't see how the third post misses context. You imply that you have a thought of Zeus to be open wolfing based on his responses that you can reference by clicking on the quote. The more I think about it, it being prompted in a question makes it slightly more hedgey. Like you weren't willing to outright say you thought he was open wolfing.

I don't think vote sleep and afk is a winning strat. Game is starting to fill me with dread.

Man, the hell is everyone else though? Games super dead.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:51 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:34 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:28 pm What's the immediate opposition to the Deezees/Porscha team?
I never said I opposed it at all?
"I’ll be completely honest that none of these pairings are really grabbing me and making much sense"

This is just a gut feeling then?
No, none of the pairings really make sense, Porscha/Neon is moreso a “Porscha and Neon individually look the worst so then as a pairing makes the most sense in that respect”

Also, me saying that no teams make sense =/= “I am opposing a Zeus/Porscha team”, that is a very bad-faith push

I see. Misinterpretation.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:34 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:28 pm What's the immediate opposition to the Deezees/Porscha team?
I never said I opposed it at all?

"I’ll be completely honest that none of these pairings are really grabbing me and making much sense"

This is just a gut feeling then?

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:24 am Speculative teams for Deezees would be
Deezees/Porscha
Deezees/Iawy

I don't think it's Deezees/Neon as within a few posts yesterday there was a theoretical chop Rico chop Neon proposed. I don't think a teammate throws that out there like that.
What pairs Zeus together with Porscha or myself FYPOV?

I've not yet assessed Porscha and Deezees connection. I'm afraid that I'm too far biased on Porscha as it stands so I'm taking a temporary step back. I raised the subject as I do not recall anything that is invalidating it.

You, however, have several posts that are Null to looking good, to outed wolf over the past few cycles.

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:47 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:37 pm I understand, thanks for your explanation

What do you think about Neon and Zeus?
I did talk about them above, but TL;DR Zeus is probably the most null for me atm, but slightly townie-leaning. Neon has been getting away with not doing a whole lot, and when finally called out on it last night, they spent more time being defensive and blaming others for ‘not letting them show that they’re town’ than actually showing others that they’re town

It came across to me like “stop pushing me and then I will solve”, and when you’ve been getting a free pass since the Lily vote to do exactly that and have produced barely anything except a string of tunnels on flipped townies/NPCs and zero mafia, it doesn’t sit right with me for obvious reasons

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:42 pm Zeus looks good from Vivax spew in the matter’s ISO. It’s beginning to mean less and less as the number dwindle and Zeus is called upon to actively contribute reasons to be townie alongside it, but is still a really valid thing to consider

Which makes me wonder why Zeus is even an attempted wagon option today

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:06 pm Zeus, are you being heavily sarcastic with all these agreements, or are you basically outing yourself?

Ultimately your progression can be teammate indicative.

What's the immediate opposition to the Deezees/Porscha team?

@Porscha nothing regarding our back and forth last cycle?

Sad

Speculative teams for Deezees would be
Deezees/Porscha
Deezees/Iawy

I don't think it's Deezees/Neon as within a few posts yesterday there was a theoretical chop Rico chop Neon proposed. I don't think a teammate throws that out there like that.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:17 pm Hi

Ricochets poe is the lhf lets kill him pew pew pew

This is what made me pause before EoD last night. Rico had suspicion on even Iawy during the day phase when Deezees posted this. Rico broke that down and you felt the need to say LHF?

Me don't think Deezees actually assessed Rico's slot at all.

Deezees pop in got me feeling something tbh.

Back from the vet.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:35 pm Did this get a day extension or does the day end in like 25 mins

Both, day was supposed to end yesterday I think. We got like 9 min after extension.

I just realized I'll likely not be around for EoD. Vet appt in an hour.

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:50 pm I've caught up. Here's some thinks:

@DeeZees: This is the slot I've decided that I'm most scared of being wrong about. I've seen the arguments that the Vivax interactions were heavy handed then fell off, but I also see that there was some legitimate momentum gain towards a potential Vivax yeet when Deezees voted that I think makes them not W/W

@DrWilgy: Beautiful. Absolutely gorgeous. Wonderful thing. Deserves some hugs and cheese cake.

@Hally: I still TR. Reviewed the Falcon EoD and find that Hally having to choose between Nutella and Falcon would've had me doing the same thing I think.

@ilario: Cleared by lack of CC. Wish we had more involvement from the slot beyond that, but we take what we can get I suppose.

@Inawordyes: I mostly TR. I find myself agreeing with most lines of thinking. At first I had felt that there was an obscure lack of conclusions being drawn in spite of the thoughts and questions put out there, but after catching up and seeing some ends i.e. the thoughts on Neon and Hally, I read this as a mostly T voice.

@Neon: I want to SR but I think I don't. I find myself in agreement with iawy's take. Neon's persistence and frustration feels real, but also I don't see Neon playing to a game winning objective.

@Porscha: The way Porscha has come gunz blazing at me after most of my town core has been yeeted feels calculated. I agree with Neon that the AtE didn't make me feel good about the slot but I think now that the push on me makes for an easy way to yeet mostly town voices and get Porscha back in the game after being away for most of it.

@Ricochet: I agree with Hally that the wallpost shouldn't be town read. Feels very much manipulative to have that post and hold it until the npc's are gone. It's also not like any other slot who at least contributed in minor pre purge.
What makes DZ’s slot so important for what ultimately amounts to a hedgy both-coins read?

Can you go more in-depth on what you mean by “obscure lack of conclusions”?

How much of your read on Porscha is ‘legitimate’ and how much of it is OMGUS and what ultimately amounts to thirdhand downstream echoes? (considering part of the reason you mention for your read is based on agreeing with Neon’s read of Porscha, and part of the reason for your read on Neon is based on agreeing with me, so it’s like this disjointed follow-through)

Put more simply, you townread me, okay. You townread Neon in part because you put stock in my read of Neon, okay. But you scumread Porscha in part because you put stock in Neon’s read of Porscha, which unlike the Neon read isn’t grounded in a trust for its own sake but like a weaker piggyback off of what’s already a secondhand read, if that makes any sense

Doubt on my own read. Deezees came into the thread and pushed hard for Vivax between me becoming a wagon and ran becoming a wagon. It feels like a genuine shot at forming a counter wagon. However, I did think Deezees being willing to play the npc game is weird and Rico's recent analysis doesn't help. It gives Deezees more w tension than I think they should have and this I'm doubting my own read.

Early game, all I remember from your slot was a TR on Porscha and quite afew posts that didn't result in a solid read out of you, mostly ideas on certain NAI subjects and questions that didn't go anywhere. It wasn't until more recently you started putting out data that lets me get a better grasp on where your head is at. It feels like a footing thing.

Other players voicing opinions on players build tension towards W or T. I don't think it's invalid to weigh data out in by both you and Neon when forming my Porscha read. I think I detailed some information on Porscha further not too long ago that seems relevant to this question.

My read on Neon is impacted by you, yes, but also because I don't see the objective based gameplay I expect from W Neon.

My read on Porscha is impacted by Neon, yes, but also because I both don't really believe that their suspicion on me is genuine and also that the responses under Seanzies pressure were towny. I do wish for Porscha to respond to me though as I think it's important.

@Neon, why exactly are you voting me?

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 6:25 am Ok lemme try to tldr. No I didnt ISO you and my point was only that I believe, from the posts I have seen from you, that you could still be well within your wolf range. I also did not like your catch up post in regards to me, your stance on me felt omgus but with some lovingly and craftily made reasons, it feels a bit shallow when I feel like a town wilgy is pretty good at sparsing the town and wolves among those who apply pressure onto or sr him

Also yes, I made that comment due to your interaction with falcon. In fact Falcons post about how you feel overly invested in sus on yourself is a lot of what I'm feeling right now. I also feel the tone of your posts in that interaction is overly serious

Aye, what is my wolf range exactly Porscha? Like, that argument against me still feels off. In anniversary 1 I had sniped 2 wolves and people were still arguing I was in my wolf range, so I don't get it anymore.

Not really sure that it's wrong even if it's OMGUS though. You just decided to wr me and there's not much info for me to even tell if you genuinely believe that read or not. "Wilgys in his wolf range" alright define my WR. "Wilgy didn't respond to my 'Sorry for the Rand'" I didn't see it and responded when you thought to raise it again after 3 day cycles. It's like you decided "Wilgy can be W" without doing any of the legwork to actually get there.

And don't get me wrong, I can see this coming from a gut reaction to me. I just don't see that being presented here.

The other reasons being crafted or shallow I'd need for you to detail to me how you disagree with them.

Hally's observation of "players that know Porscha tr the slot" recently also stood out to me as I thought it was mostly contrary to that being true. Seanzie Nut and Michelle all wolf read your slot and are gone.

Re overly serious, I think you are correct. Did start to feel some decent frustration when Nut and Falcon flipped and I get how that's not like me. This game is lasting too long I think.

Hope everyone had a good day yesterday.

Er... Neon specific In game posts...

Everytime I step my foot out of the syndicate I feel like a lost child.

On MU the button for Multi ISO and filtering to Neon is how that works to get in game posts from the game thread?

I suppose you are correct.

When Neon and I were teammates, Neon had no issues making posts indicative of frustration. Suppose that can be NAI...

But then where's Neon's goal here? W Neon was VERY objective oriented in Hot Fuzz.

The void is bright and blinds my mortal eyes. To be unable to grasp infinity within this shell is life's sickest prank. (Hally I think the link is broke)

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:20 pm yeah i dunno, i could be clearing porscha too easily

i don’t think her posts are amazing but i’ve seen enough villagery flashes still and don’t really see her absence as AI

i skimmed her iso in her last wolf game (anni G3) and her posts this game seem way better?

also, she’s been strongly town read at various points this game by people with more direct experience with her, which i’m inclined to put stock into because it fits my perception that she does seem to have a pretty clear meta gap

idk

Idk. I wrote off Porscha as a town sided npc pretty early until Seanzie came to knock down the doors.

The responses I saw in that moment made me reconsider and maybe I'm latching onto that.

Further thoughts on Neon:
My back and forth on Neon gives me such pause. I remember after the Vivax ISO that there were things that made me want to go back to review the slot, but hell if I remember what gave me that impression.

Neon reading Porscha's AtE wolfy I mostly agree with, and Iawy pointing out that the frustration feels genuine I also agree with.

Neon's self vote however feels off to me. I thought Neon was very much a player that doesn't approve of that.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:50 pm I've caught up. Here's some thinks:

@DeeZees: This is the slot I've decided that I'm most scared of being wrong about. I've seen the arguments that the Vivax interactions were heavy handed then fell off, but I also see that there was some legitimate momentum gain towards a potential Vivax yeet when Deezees voted that I think makes them not W/W

@DrWilgy: Beautiful. Absolutely gorgeous. Wonderful thing. Deserves some hugs and cheese cake.

@Hally: I still TR. Reviewed the Falcon EoD and find that Hally having to choose between Nutella and Falcon would've had me doing the same thing I think.

@ilario: Cleared by lack of CC. Wish we had more involvement from the slot beyond that, but we take what we can get I suppose.

@Inawordyes: I mostly TR. I find myself agreeing with most lines of thinking. At first I had felt that there was an obscure lack of conclusions being drawn in spite of the thoughts and questions put out there, but after catching up and seeing some ends i.e. the thoughts on Neon and Hally, I read this as a mostly T voice.

@Neon: I want to SR but I think I don't. I find myself in agreement with iawy's take. Neon's persistence and frustration feels real, but also I don't see Neon playing to a game winning objective.

@Porscha: The way Porscha has come gunz blazing at me after most of my town core has been yeeted feels calculated. I agree with Neon that the AtE didn't make me feel good about the slot but I think now that the push on me makes for an easy way to yeet mostly town voices and get Porscha back in the game after being away for most of it.

@Ricochet: I agree with Hally that the wallpost shouldn't be town read. Feels very much manipulative to have that post and hold it until the npc's are gone. It's also not like any other slot who at least contributed in minor pre purge.
so from this, your two wolves would be rico and porscha?

hrmph

Eh, team Is plausible. I'd say that they are more so lower PoE while Neon and Deezees are higher PoE.

Deezees feels like more of a tinfoil thing though.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:04 pm honestly rico’s posts today are more so just not villagery as opposed to wolfy

or maybe they are actually wolfy

or maybe i’m just telling myself that because i don’t want him to flip town

i dunno

I think they are pretty wolfy... Idk. Feels like Rico could've done his Vivax review at any point and just chose not to. Vivax had been dead for awhile, not like *NEW* info is going to appear making waiting on the NPC's being gone a good thing.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:50 pm Like it's possible he is town and I would need to ISO on comp later but it seems there has been literally no conceptions he may not be town but from the posts I've seen from him... idk.... he could be wolfing lol

I responded to one of wilgy posts where he was talking with falcon earlier in the game and told wilgy "sorry for the rand" but he didnt respond to it I dont think lol but I was kind of not entirely joking when I said it lmfaoo

Porscha did you ever actually ISO me? The entire first paragraph was "he may be town" but he "may not be town"

Re: Sorry for the rand. I didn't see this at first. You referring to this post?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:57 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:27 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:14 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:21 pm So what here is the argument for me?

I've seen a few votes.
Wilgy here showing an unusual amount of concern for the sus on his slot.

It is not uncommon for Wilgy to get heat, as he is a tricky read, and usually he cares very little.
It was a good means for me to actually get involved. I was pretty uninvolved at the start of the game, so examining who was being truthful in their suspicion of me vs who was chasing the lhf helped me get my footing.

How about you? You seem not concerned about the sus on you. What do you think of my takes on your slot?
Sorry for the rand wilgy

So like, am I supposed to make anything of this? Did you we me for how I responded to Falcon's inquiry? I don't follow.

I've caught up. Here's some thinks:

@DeeZees: This is the slot I've decided that I'm most scared of being wrong about. I've seen the arguments that the Vivax interactions were heavy handed then fell off, but I also see that there was some legitimate momentum gain towards a potential Vivax yeet when Deezees voted that I think makes them not W/W

@DrWilgy: Beautiful. Absolutely gorgeous. Wonderful thing. Deserves some hugs and cheese cake.

@Hally: I still TR. Reviewed the Falcon EoD and find that Hally having to choose between Nutella and Falcon would've had me doing the same thing I think.

@ilario: Cleared by lack of CC. Wish we had more involvement from the slot beyond that, but we take what we can get I suppose.

@Inawordyes: I mostly TR. I find myself agreeing with most lines of thinking. At first I had felt that there was an obscure lack of conclusions being drawn in spite of the thoughts and questions put out there, but after catching up and seeing some ends i.e. the thoughts on Neon and Hally, I read this as a mostly T voice.

@Neon: I want to SR but I think I don't. I find myself in agreement with iawy's take. Neon's persistence and frustration feels real, but also I don't see Neon playing to a game winning objective.

@Porscha: The way Porscha has come gunz blazing at me after most of my town core has been yeeted feels calculated. I agree with Neon that the AtE didn't make me feel good about the slot but I think now that the push on me makes for an easy way to yeet mostly town voices and get Porscha back in the game after being away for most of it.

@Ricochet: I agree with Hally that the wallpost shouldn't be town read. Feels very much manipulative to have that post and hold it until the npc's are gone. It's also not like any other slot who at least contributed in minor pre purge.

Hello everyone.

Sorry been away, Holiday closure and that consuming my life had me pretty much no capacity lately.

What have I missed?

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:46 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:40 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:39 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:36 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:06 pm zeus is a wolf who has no WIM because he randed wolf again and his team is rico and schia who don’t wanna do anything except larp as NPCs
Who is Zeus?
deezees
If DZ is a wolf after the Vivax tomfoolery, I'll eat my shoe.

Like I think there's one scenario where this is wrong and we'll evaluate that when we get there
i thought it was more unlikely yesterday but i’m not so sure anymore

mostly cuz bussing and distancing unnecessarily is very much in dz’s wolf range

and also their interactions with each other are just sooo over the top and out of nowhere

neither of them have that kind of interaction with anyone else, it goes from 0 to 60 so fast, and then the next days it seems like they don’t even really talk about each other anymore

it’s weird enough that imo it’s possible they were like “let’s have a big fight itt to seem not w/w”

wouldn’t be the first time it’s happened

but i’m open to other ideas, i just wanted to pressure someone other than neon tbh

I mean. I think it's a solid pursuit.

How did you feel on Porscha after the debacle?

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah

The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario

At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY

I think its time to murderize schia
@Hally
@Michelle
@pyxxy
@DrWilgy
@Porscha
@Neon
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Inawordyes

@ilario
@Jackofhearts2005
@DeeZees
@pyxxy

Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.

Schia absolutely never is going to be allowed to live after a purge, and so right now is the time to chop it - if you hit an NPC, great, you're on correct parity. If you hit a town, well you were going to hit that town eventually anyway. If you hit a wolf, perfect.

Vote Schia today or I will shame you after the game for being bad B)

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine this is literally one of like 4 that should've been yeeted yesterday.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:59 am @Porscha
@Schiavetto
@Michelle
@DeeZees
@Hally
@Neon
@ilario
@Jackofhearts2005
@DrWilgy
@Manny
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Inawordyes
@pyxxy
@Ricochet

This is the raw list above. And below my first GTH attempt to sort. I am going to read Vivax' Iso and share thoughts and I need everyone in the village or NPC villa hearted to help town toDay.
Pinged myself to find the post in alerts and I am aware I pinged the wolves as well, but if anyone has a chance to clear themselves, toDay is the momenr to do so. Please ping me with your solve

Mich
Wilgy
Hally
Illario
Jack
DZ
Lumi
Pyxxy
Iawy
Nook
Porscha
Neon
Ricochet
Schia

Mich T/PC
Wilgy
Hally T/PC
Illario T/PC
Jack T/NPC
DZ T/PC
Lumi W/NPC
Pyxxy W/NPC
Iawy T/PC
Nook W/NPC
Porscha W/PC
Neon W/PC
Ricochet W/NPC
Schia W/NPC

And that's just the top of my head. I still need to reassess Neon and Porscha. I've had an awkward W vibe towards Neon for a minute, but it's so far behind everything else I haven't snooped to validate. Porscha kinda too, but that's a reaction to what I saw of last cycle. Nut being T kinda makes me thing the Porscha W was accurate.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:39 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:36 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:06 pm zeus is a wolf who has no WIM because he randed wolf again and his team is rico and schia who don’t wanna do anything except larp as NPCs
Who is Zeus?
deezees

If DZ is a wolf after the Vivax tomfoolery, I'll eat my shoe.

Like I think there's one scenario where this is wrong and we'll evaluate that when we get there

DeeZees wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:19 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:09 pm
DeeZees wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:57 am
Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:35 am Day 7 Vote Count
SoD: #7748 EoD: #0

Not Voting (4): MacDougall (3), Jackofhearts2005 (13), Ricochet (1), ilario (1)
schiavetto (3): Lumi (35), Inawordyes (8), Manny (50)
neon (3): Michelle (57), pyxxy (5), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (7)
deezees (2): Neon (54), Hally (82)
ahhh ppl are trying to kill me ahhhh
What do you think about them?
might be wolves

but I think I should be cleared by:
- vivax back and forth
- complete lack of involvement in game
- towny posting
- gimmick

not my wolf game yooooooo

I agree with the Vivax ISO argument.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:06 pm zeus is a wolf who has no WIM because he randed wolf again and his team is rico and schia who don’t wanna do anything except larp as NPCs

Who is Zeus?

Man, I keep trying to read the past 6 pages to see what happened leading up to the Falcon yeet. Can't focus for shit today though.

Nut being modkilled and the Falcon yeet got me pretty discouraged tbh.

What's the current VC and discussion?

Why the hell is Falcon gone when we have both Schia and Pyxxy still? Hell, even Nook still being around is frightening.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:07 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:06 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:01 pm Skimmed the Porscha wolfening.

I can see it.

But you know what's better?

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
No. you agreed to the terms and conditions.

Terms and conditions:
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Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted.

Current hardclaim list:
Spoiler: show
Claimed player:
falcon45ca
Michelle
Seanzie
nutella
Hally
Inawordyes
Lumi
DrWilgy

Claimed NPC:
Manny
pyxxy

No claims:
DeeZees
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Ricochet
Schiavetto
sprityo

I've literally wanted 1 thing for 4 cycles now.

plz.
Pyxxy has agreed to be turbo'd first after the culling. Your wish will be granted if they are not an NPC.
uh I explicitly asked that Schia go before me if she's still around

See this is the shit I was talking about. I don't think we have the time to play "queue up and chop down the npcs that are still around" and that's the exact game that Pyxxy is proposing.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:01 pm Skimmed the Porscha wolfening.

I can see it.

But you know what's better?

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine
No. you agreed to the terms and conditions.

Terms and conditions:
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Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted.

Current hardclaim list:
Spoiler: show
Claimed player:
falcon45ca
Michelle
Seanzie
nutella
Hally
Inawordyes
Lumi
DrWilgy

Claimed NPC:
Manny
pyxxy

No claims:
DeeZees
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Ricochet
Schiavetto
sprityo

I've literally wanted 1 thing for 4 cycles now.

plz.

Skimmed the Porscha wolfening.

I can see it.

But you know what's better?

[VOTE: Pyxxy] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:33 pm Those I've @'d in this post, please read the terms and conditions here:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:23 pm I thought about it, and I decided as town leader that there are two new thread rules.

Thread Rule 1: Everyone must claim either player or NPC. If you claim NPC and are alive after the culling, you are insta-killed. NPCs can claim player though (how could we stop them?) If someone claims NPC, they are NOT allowed to be voted.

Thread Rule 2: If @Schiavetto doesn't claim either player or NPC, they are to be yeeted today.
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME please claim player or NPC.

@iaafr please claim player or NPC.

@DrWilgy please claim player or NPC.

@Lumi please claim player or NPC.

@Manny please claim player or NPC.

I am in fact still a player.

Damn EoD is soon eh? I keep getting thrown off by AU date.

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