The Syndicate

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:05 pm Effectively we are looking at at least 1 in Dennis/Nate, at least 1 in Seanzie/Miranda920, and lastly at least 1 in the Falcon/Zenge/Santy.

I have Zenge all but locked town, Santy as a town lean, and you have Falcon locked town. Hmm.
I'm confused where you deduced at least 1 in Seanzie/miranda?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:13 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:53 pm Votecount as of end of day 1

Scotty 8 - (Marmot, dyachei/lawpy, mightyrunner7, SportPonies, Neon, Creature, Sloonei, potentialsheltervet)
Creature 5 - (Mayo the Mayo, Kate, S~V~S, falcon45ca, DrWilgy)
Dennis 3 - (Animal Midwife, Scotty, NateTheLesser)
SportPonies 3 - (Seanzie, miranda920, pyxxy)
Falcon45ca 2 - (Zenge, santygrass)
pyxxy 1 - (genny)
Marmot 1 - (Dennis)

Did not vote 1 - (SARdoghandler)

Notes:

The mafia shooting Animal Midwife on night 1 after Scotty goes over, quite blatantly spews the Dennis wagon. Almost too blatantly. I am very confident there is a strong difference check between Dennis and NateTheLesser at this time.

I personally view Creature as a probable hit. He is not his towny self and has no enthusiasm. He keeps talking about his lack of energy/engagement which I have seen him do as mafia because he genuinely does not enjoy wolfing. I think Creature does need to be resolved to help town make heads or tails of the gamestate. I also don't trust Marmot at all and observed Marmot defend Creature during day 1 in a really questionable way. His reasons for ending up voting Scotty felt like he was trying to reach for justifications to be voting town, if Creature was town he wouldn't need to make said justifications.

Obviously if Creature and Dennis are both mafia, the Scotty wagon is very likely to contain multiple mafia. I'd be particularly interested in those who are more familiar with Scotty coming under fire, especially because after reading his ISO he felt like very basic Scotty, who is an A++ town player especially mid to late game. I would expect the likes of Marmot, Neon and Sloonei to be disinclined from killing Scotty day 1 over Creature when comparing their two isos.

@Sloonei, @Neon, @Marmot why did you end up voting out Scotty over Creature?

Oh shit, Good job, I like this and was about to review here.

Quick mention of something I noticed. There's likely one in Seanzie/Miranda920 as well.

Effectively we are looking at at least 1 in Dennis/Nate, at least 1 in Seanzie/Miranda920, and lastly at least 1 in the Falcon/Zenge/Santy.
Is the 'Scotty wagon is very likely to contain multiple mafia' impacted by the multiple factions in your read at all?

No I am not factoring in multiple factions, and I have Falcon more likely different to Mightyrunner7 than Zedge. Zedge is just town, and in the event Falcon is town I don't think that changes it, if anything it makes it more likely because wolves rarely go hard in the paint to kill a random town the way Zedge would be doing. Why do you think Falcon and Santy contains one?

Explain the Seanzie/Miranda analysis?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:14 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:08 pm Scotty (8) - Marmot , Dyachei , Mighty , Sporty , Neon , Creature , Sloonei , Psv
Creature (5) - Mayo , Kate , SVS , falcon , wilgy
Dennis (3) - AM , Scotty , Nate
Sporty (3) - Seanzie , Miranda , Pyxxy
Falcon (2) - Zenge , Santygrass
Marmot (1) - Dennis
Pyxxy (1) - genny
Unvote (1) - SAR

Question for people who have had read the game.

Dennis vote here is weird if I want to envision a W/W world with Creature ? Maybe I should look into context but its easier if someone talks to me about unpairing reads that Creature or Dennis might have with other people .

Also, I kinda sus SAR but wpuld trust PSV vibe read more than mine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:53 pm Votecount as of end of day 1

Scotty 8 - (Marmot, dyachei/lawpy, mightyrunner7, SportPonies, Neon, Creature, Sloonei, potentialsheltervet)
Creature 5 - (Mayo the Mayo, Kate, S~V~S, falcon45ca, DrWilgy)
Dennis 3 - (Animal Midwife, Scotty, NateTheLesser)
SportPonies 3 - (Seanzie, miranda920, pyxxy)
Falcon45ca 2 - (Zenge, santygrass)
pyxxy 1 - (genny)
Marmot 1 - (Dennis)

Did not vote 1 - (SARdoghandler)

Notes:

The mafia shooting Animal Midwife on night 1 after Scotty goes over, quite blatantly spews the Dennis wagon. Almost too blatantly. I am very confident there is a strong difference check between Dennis and NateTheLesser at this time.

I personally view Creature as a probable hit. He is not his towny self and has no enthusiasm. He keeps talking about his lack of energy/engagement which I have seen him do as mafia because he genuinely does not enjoy wolfing. I think Creature does need to be resolved to help town make heads or tails of the gamestate. I also don't trust Marmot at all and observed Marmot defend Creature during day 1 in a really questionable way. His reasons for ending up voting Scotty felt like he was trying to reach for justifications to be voting town, if Creature was town he wouldn't need to make said justifications.

Obviously if Creature and Dennis are both mafia, the Scotty wagon is very likely to contain multiple mafia. I'd be particularly interested in those who are more familiar with Scotty coming under fire, especially because after reading his ISO he felt like very basic Scotty, who is an A++ town player especially mid to late game. I would expect the likes of Marmot, Neon and Sloonei to be disinclined from killing Scotty day 1 over Creature when comparing their two isos.

@Sloonei, @Neon, @Marmot why did you end up voting out Scotty over Creature?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:43 pm Votecount as at this post

falcon45ca 3 - (mightyrunner7, potentialsheltervet, Zenge)

Creature 2 - (santygrass, falcon45ca)
Dennis 2 - (Neon, NateTheLesser)
NateTheLesser 2 - (Marmot, MacDougall)

Marmot 1 - (sloonei)
santygrass 1 - (creature)
SARdoghandler 1 - (Seanzie)

DrWilgy 0
dyachei/lawpy 0
genny 0
Kate/Mac 0
Mayo the Mayo 0
mightyrunner7 0
miranda920 0
Neon 0
potentialsheltervet 0
Seanzie 0
S~V~S 0
Sloonei 0
Zenge 0

Sleep / No Elimination 0

Not voting (@SARdoghandler, @Dennis, @santygrass, @DrWilgy, @Lawpy, @genny, @Mayo the Mayo, @miranda920, @S~V~S)

Notes: The Falcon wagon quickly got to 3 and has not moved any further. There is probably 1 wolf between the 4 (inclusive of Falcon) based on wagonomics, rarely 0. Zenge and PSV feel quite town just on solving energy, so in my view there is a likely wolf between Falcon and Mightyrunner7.

I am not a fan of the amount of people presently not voting. We need to pressure wolves, so if you are town in there, please start voting. If you don't have any good ideas of who to vote for, start communicating with your top town and just work with them. It's okay to be wrong. It's not okay to not try.

DrWilgy has been representing a "he's an obvious town" read on Falcon since day 1 but seems untroubled by the pressure Falcon is under. I don't like this.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:46 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:39 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:34 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:32 pm @DrWilgy Hi
Why TR falcon?

Falcon is very easy to tell as town. Is he solving instead of laying low? That's T Falcon.

Also based on how Meta Mafia went (game that just ended) I can believe the fire in his belly being heavily town indicative.

That's just not what others have said about his meta so this is curious.

The only time I've been wrong on Falcon was due to being too distracted by his teammate and by not being able to make it to them and then once when I deliberately messed with him to the point of obscuring my own read.

I had in my solve that game that Falcon was a likely possibility, really one of two options. We just needed to yeet the teammate first. That never happens and I was yeeted in lylo instead.

The Falcon we see here is T Falcon.

Bro you were wrong about him in the game you were literally just playing. I understand you can't talk about ongoing games which it was at the time but you are straight up lying in this post instead of talking around it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:26 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:34 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:32 pm @DrWilgy Hi
Why TR falcon?

Falcon is very easy to tell as town. Is he solving instead of laying low? That's T Falcon.

Also based on how Meta Mafia went (game that just ended) I can believe the fire in his belly being heavily town indicative.

What is different from him in this game compared to the Hotdog Fingers game?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:34 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:32 pm @DrWilgy Hi
Why TR falcon?

Falcon is very easy to tell as town. Is he solving instead of laying low? That's T Falcon.

Also based on how Meta Mafia went (game that just ended) I can believe the fire in his belly being heavily town indicative.

That's just not what others have said about his meta so this is curious.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:33 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:32 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:07 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:01 pm @DrWilgy Wherefore art thou?

Dead.

Have only read your ISO tbh. I think you are town and will sheep you until I can obtain more data to make a read.

Sheep me on Creature then


[VOTE: creature] aubergine

Sure thing boss.

Also I do intend on catching up come next cycle. Stuff came up specifically these past two days that took my soul.

Ah rough day mate, dementors get ahold of ya?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:32 pm @DrWilgy Hi
Why TR falcon?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:07 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:01 pm @DrWilgy Wherefore art thou?

Dead.

Have only read your ISO tbh. I think you are town and will sheep you until I can obtain more data to make a read.

Sheep me on Creature then


[VOTE: creature] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:01 pm @DrWilgy Wherefore art thou?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:02 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm Game Fast.

14 pages.

Haven't read.

ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?

@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?

ISO me baby

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm Game Fast.

14 pages.

Haven't read.

ANYWAYS @Neon you meme voting Dennis?

@falcon45ca/@NateTheLesser please iterate on why Zenge?

No it's a real vote

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:06 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:05 pm Ah! I have been slapped!

That's what you get for licking everyone in the GoC.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:18 pm Hey look a wolfy opportunistic 3rd vote on the lead wagon.

[VOTE: Miranda] aubergine

Where have I seen this before?

Implying that Miranda is town I see. How'd ya arrive at that conclusion?

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:19 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:45 am Good hello everyone. My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor.

Pleasure to play with you today.

Hey Doc I've been having this problem


You see... it hurts all the time everything

What do I do doc?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:17 pm The human race is in shambles

Consideiring that I think the mafia in this game are the were-versions of their animal, which translates to man-animal.... this is a very townie take. The more human anyone is in this game, the more likely they're bad.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:48 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:45 am Good hello everyone. My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor.

Pleasure to play with you today.

But are you a student doctor?