The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:58 pm GGs!

Amazing effort Roxy, I apologize for my gameplay in this and leaving you out to dry.

Dude, you gave us such little info lmao. You were an excellent wolf and have nothing to apologize for!

Excellent job Roxy! The bus was very well executed.

Ty for the game @Syn, ty for modding @Seanzie!

We did it!

I'm not a bug!

Host is asleep, quick, post images of frogs, the direct enemy of insects.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:11 am I realise Wilgy won regardless alignament.

Good game, sir!

Would W Michelle give me false hope?

These are the real questions.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:59 am Where is the poll?

How do I vote?

Just tagamarags [VOTE: ] aubergine

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:57 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:54 am Sad.

But Michelle did really well to bamboozle me. Good job if that's the case.
I really thought we had this one buddy <3

always a next time

Sad.

But Michelle did really well to bamboozle me. Good job if that's the case.

D5 begins. It is LYLO! Votes are locked and hammer is enabled. There is no poll for this, so only posts in thread count. Please use the vote tag so it's easily noticed.

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:49 am @DrWilgy and @Michelle did you both vote me?

but but I love you <3

I don't think either you or Michelle have voted yet.

Ily too! Now please be wolf!

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:27 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:12 am I think love is shared inside and outside the game.

I will, however, yeet a loved one.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

I hope I'm correct. I brewed over it all night. Michelle reviewing me last cycle was far too townie for me to be swayed otherwise
Everyone has been shouting Michelle T this entire game and I also don't think they are incorrect.

I've seen *enough* wolf signs of Roxy to at least place this vote, where I see like... 1 in Michelle that should ultimately be nai.
what were you "brewing" exactly? People *need* to know.

Some mead and silliness, for that is all I need in life.

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:26 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:12 am Ho boi, did I mess it up?
yep, you messed it up, thanks Wigly

Yeesh. I don't wanna wait.

Imma sit here quietly.

Ho boi, did I mess it up?

I think love is shared inside and outside the game.

I will, however, yeet a loved one.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

I hope I'm correct. I brewed over it all night. Michelle reviewing me last cycle was far too townie for me to be swayed otherwise
Everyone has been shouting Michelle T this entire game and I also don't think they are incorrect.

I've seen *enough* wolf signs of Roxy to at least place this vote, where I see like... 1 in Michelle that should ultimately be nai.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:37 pm I have to sleep, share your thoughts please

Still annoyed around EoD to be honest.

Probably going to vote Roxy, but I'll wait for everyone to show up before I do so.

Why couldn't you have just killed me.

I don't wanna be in f3.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:56 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:55 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:53 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:52 pm My bug is beautiful btw
Mine is very small
Mine isn't even a bug...
I bet that must have been bugging you

I've been jumping at the chance to question this

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:53 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:52 pm My bug is beautiful btw
Mine is very small

Mine isn't even a bug...

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:50 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:49 pm If Ex flips town then I'd almost always vote Roxy tomorrow.

If the wolf is outside of those two names then you can blame me and I'll take full accountability for the loss.
If the wolf is outside of those two names then you can blame me and I'll take full accountability for the win.
New brand of Wilgy EoD trolling Wiml smh.

I just thought it was funny because a W can say the exact same thing and change 1 word.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:49 pm If Ex flips town then I'd almost always vote Roxy tomorrow.

If the wolf is outside of those two names then you can blame me and I'll take full accountability for the loss.

If the wolf is outside of those two names then you can blame me and I'll take full accountability for the win.

We are in agreement.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:42 pm Anyone else here?

I'm here and I'm not in the mood for shenanigans. Probably gonna just leave my vote as is.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:02 pm Wigly calm yourself I probs took too many bong hits. I just decided to roll with my gut.

I could use some...

[VOTE: Ex] aubergine

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:50 pm My posts are fluffy
I only vote late when it doesn't matter
I have no reads

After reading that I lost my wim

I'm trying to find it. Not feeling it at all.

Wiml I meant 60% town wigly 100% town

Roxy, you are truly a fantastic human and I enjoy playing mafia with you.

You thinking I'm 100% town freaks me the fuck out lol

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:45 pmBah
Got a solid preference for who you think the wolf is or still deciding?

The Ex thing is looming over me like a dark cloud. Making it VERY hard to decide what to do.

Pretty sure I'd go with Ex this cycle based on NKA, but bah.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:57 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:01 pm I don't like this.
Alignment-wise?
No, just game in general wise. I feel that if we don't toss Ex over now it's a danger. I feel that I shouldn't NEED to feel this way suddenly based on something that has nothing to do with my solve.
Yeah, I agree with that.

I'm kind of stuck with what to do there tbh.

Yup, to the point where I'm hesitant to even discuss it.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:01 pm You know what? The game is easy if Wilgy and Wiml are town and we are in agreement we are the town core.

Thoughts?

With how today has developed I don't think there's much of a choice. If there's a W in either you or Wiml T loses.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:32 pm @DrWilgy just to check, I am correct that you've come off a triple wolf rand streak and this would be your fourth wolf rand in a row if you were wolfing, right?

I was T in Don't Starve that happened at the same time yes, but didn't get my feet down there and was misyeeted early. So effectively yes.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:01 pm I don't like this.
Alignment-wise?

No, just game in general wise. I feel that if we don't toss Ex over now it's a danger. I feel that I shouldn't NEED to feel this way suddenly based on something that has nothing to do with my solve.

I don't like this.

_ExLight wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:49 pm as if you werent gonna vote me on F3 anyway lmfao anything i day you all just ignore

I mean, it's quite literally a combination of your suspicion and Wiml's meta finding that broke me away from my firm Roxy tr. I'm sorry that you feel you are being ignored, but I really do appreciate the effort you've put into the game.

While I can appreciate that effort, I can also find at the same time things that are alignment indicative that are unrelated.

Yo, we are just trying to solve a game of mafia.

I also think one of the most odd things is Falcon dying before JJJ.

I don't think either Roxy OR Kate wouldn't shoot there without hesitation. So Falc dying HAS to be important.

Kate had more reason to do so, BUT Roxy D2 posted this:

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:25 pm Wow. Weird nk is weird.

I cannot read Quin so i will iso tonight along with a couple of others I had in mind.

I have Ariya so just a pop in.

Also thanks for the d 1 elim wiml. <3

As if we were supposed to focus on it, without saying much more.

Kate has more reason to nk Falcon than Roxy did.

Kate had more reason to nk JJJ than Roxy did.

Ex had more reason to nk Abigail than Roxy did.

Like, ALL of the kills point towards Ex I think and that's just really hard for me to find a counter argument for.

(that was sarcasm by the way, I don't want anyone to think I'm blaming anyone including myself for a good bamboozlement)

Aye, everyone has said Michelle/Wiml town. I'll stop questioning those thinks now. It's no longer worth the energy and if a W is in there then I'll blame everyone who's dead because it was CLEARLY not my fault a good bus and good towny voice worked so well.

Lookin for da correct loogacy:

Epi had Michelle/Wiml as TR.
Everyone else is yeetable.

Abigail TR'd Kate's exit.
Abigail had Town Core on Me/Roxy/Wiml/Michelle.

JJJ had PoE to Epi > Kate > Me.
Had reasons to argue for Michelle/Roxy as T.
Wiml not W/W with LC.

Quin had just me D1.

Falcon had sus on Epi and Kate.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:26 pm But nah in all seriousness I think most likely fhe game has been hard because we've miscleared (w-Roxy) or because it wasn't hard to begin with and we've just been kicking the can because of shenanigans (w-Kate/Ex).

I concur.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:44 am I veto an ex kill for a day

Also I reviewed the Abigail view that Ex spoke about. Abigail saying Ex gets a day, then Ex saying that Abigail wouldn't have sr'd them 'this game' kinda comes across as bad faith.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:31 pm A silly gamestate is 9 times out of 10 a pro T gamestate. See champs 2023 game 1 d1. We went full silly.

Just gonna iterate. The reason the game is so hard now is because we didn't go full silly d1.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:30 am Wilgy, what was your read on Lime Coke during D1?

Particularly during later D1 when you had a more informed opinion.

Pretty sure I iterated this but I had no read. LC wasn't around, but players I trusted had their vote there so I figured it was fine.

I don't remember back skimming LC either, but I may have done so without drawing anything substantial.

Abigail/Kate had most of my attention and tension between you/Roxy had my attention. I was aware that the tension between you/Roxy COULD be resolved against LC, which was another reason I figured it was fine.

Further you/me/jjj/lc was an early grouping that I thought we could solve within resulting in a dif between you/lc that I thought was substantial enough.

LC posted once while I was around, to which I popcorn gif'd.

So my read was 'this yeet is fine I guess. I don't think we get alot of data from it, but it is in fact fine.' and then LC flipped to my response of 'Neat, anyways...'

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:20 am Meh ok maybe there was a point where me/JJJ/Wilgy/Abigail/Falcon were all voting there and Roxy was 6th, I'll have to fact check.

Pretty sure I was on Quin already by that point.

I think I'm noticing something.

In Roxy's play this game, it almost feels as if there's more internal reasoning coming through than cyberpunk.

Hard to gauge if this is reflective of time allowed in thread (how busy one is) or alignment though.

Quote from cyberpunk when Roxy sheeped me:

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:49 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:47 pm Wilg made a very good case on me, based on d1, I look really bad. On d2 I was willing to lynch HK tho and tried to get the attention back to him. I hope Porscha is wolf and we lynch here.
I am at the point to do something I have never done in a game - sheeping.
I am going to sheep Wigly this day until I can feel this game again.

This actually does have contrast to how we saw Roxy respond to your LC case. Roxy didn't go out of their way to attempt to explain stance, but just kinda sheeped and did it.

Think think.

So the hard part when comparing the two, Roxy went out of their way to hard bus Vivax it looks like. It feels almost as if W Roxy felt they needed to 'convince the bus wasn't a bus' and I don't see that here.

In how Roxy approached the LC suspicion/bus

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:40 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:13 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:53 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:44 am I don't think that a potential wolf-Lime Coke just gives up under pressure if one of his initial strong pushers (JJJ) is actually a wolf bussing him.
so you think Limey has just given up?

I cannot guage them so your input would be so farout.
Yeah, he's somebody who doesn't enjoy wolfing and tends to have serious motivation issues as a wolf. I think he got scumcased by two very vocal villagers who he respects (at least one of them, me, having a historically accurate read on him with something like 20 games played together) and felt demoralised over it and / or that he couldn't recover from the situation and / or that his team wasn't in a winnable position and so just stopped posting full stop.

The only time he's posted since he initially left the thread after getting scumread has been once to post that tweet / copypasta earlier. Since he initially left, he hasn't put any attempt into solving people, answering questions asked to him, addressing the wagon on him or just playing the game: he just posted one off-topic meme in a way that looks more like he's lolcatting than anything (not really sure if that term is used on this site but lolcatting is when an outed mafia member posts blatantly off topic things to avoid spewing the identity of their partners and is generally an admission of guilt).

This is very uncharacteristic of his town play but not something I'd consider unexpected from his wolf play. He's generally very strong, active and obvious (to me at least) villager who I have a lot of respect for so I'm having a lot of difficulty reconciling that with his behaviour this game after getting cased and I think the reasons he was cased in the first place are still solid as well.
wow thanks so much for this. I am afraid it will no doubt impact my vibe of them as I really have none on them.

This was the only part that stood out for me. The glow feels more pockety in nature than an actual explanation of stance. I'll peak at cyberpunk again and see if T Roxy does this.

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:44 am (This is pocketing)

Stinky

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