The Syndicate

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:53 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:51 pm All cool, I think with the legacy set up those of us with info roles kind of needed to die to advance town. I lucked out since Cape left that Marmor.or.LC legacy lol, but that would only go so far.
I realized that but I was pretty sure if I advocated for killing people who were PRs during the day, someone would try to kill me too lol. I knew Abbi and Boq were PRs from Wilgy's check (I assume he had to find X number of vanilla players to win) and Robyn was vanilla.

Oh, no.

I completely made that up.

GG!

That's it. Thems my thoughts.

I think D3 EoD and SVS Legacy out a lot of the game pieces in a solvable state.

I think PoE after Ender is gone is just Nook.

Nooks push on me feels bad. That's kinda it. I will need to go through and reread Nook and see if there's a chance I made a mistake on my clears though. There's also a chance that maybe the "there are no more threats" button becomes the correct answer after Ender.

My reasoning for reading Bereft is probably the most flimsy. I noticed previously that Bereft would choose to not push me even when I was inactive, so that and a general tone read made me think they were town. I do think W would at least try to push afk Wilgy a little bit there?

Outside of myself though, Robyn is likely town and vouches with near certainty on Bereft being townie. I think my flimsy read and Robyns read are a good enough argument as to why Bereft is town.

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:53 pm patiently awaiting ur read on me wigly

I think it's pretty straightforward. D3 EoD, if you were wolf you played way way way riskier than a w would.

The only argument against this is a bad one because it means ANOTHER w also played way way way riskier than needed as well.

This is still the best reason I have for a tr on Robyn.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:09 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:32 am
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:30 am now get off me and play the game, or i will chop you

last time we did this i had a 3/4 solve and you disagreed with me every step of the way, don’t be like this
Please do I'm voting you every single day till I die
fwiw, near EoD Robyn did instruct for an SVS vote/wagon. I see no reason W Robyn would do that while at risk of being voted out being a lead wagon alongside me.

Like, there would've been no reason W robyn doesn't just go 'buddies vote wilgy' and that didn't happen.

And further thinking on it, even if 1 of Ender/Bereft was Robyns teammate and was listening to the instructions for an SVS push because of that, W Robyn AND W Ender/Bereft would both be risking Robyn and me just voting there. I really don't think W's take that chance, I think even less likely that two wolves take that chance.

Clearly I'm asking for elaboration on your thoughts and I'm unsure why you argue against me asking for that.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:03 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Still strongly believe he's mafia

Pretty confident ender is town

Still need to do in depth pairings wowee
Alright, so I get it d3, but there comes a point where you gotta explain why when you say I'm scum back to back.
I mean if you get it d3 then you get it d4
Not how this works homie.
I mean it is its literally the same reasons

And also you didn't get it yesterday either lol

Which tbf its about you, why would you get it

This conversation is pointless is really the takeaway

What were those reasons?

I thought it was that I was basically a null slot and you thought to trim the fruit.

Am I mistaken?

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:46 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:44 pm Gamestate thoughts, probably will spread these over a few posts to get my sweet number up.

WWA and LC are town cleared based on SVS Legacy.

Inclined to believe the legacy based on SVS's play. The only detractor from this being true is if the team is LC/SVS as the WWA/SVS interactions I detailed above don't exist for LC/SVS.
SVS/WWA are not W/W and SVS gave the clear to WWA
LC/SVS can be W/W and SVS gave the clear to LC.

These both are just stipulations and I don't think to be true. If SVS's legacy is actually a fabrication then I just kinda lose to it.
lc isn’t a wolf, he’s not been doing anything for the past couple cycles and is riding on the fact i’m mafia. since i’m not then lc kinda has 0 standing in thread (as he does now)

I agree, the exercise was more so to point out where I could be wrong in clearing.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:32 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:12 pm She doesn't need to say that if she knows there's a janitor;
This is actually better than even the 'quick vote + no agenda seen.'

I don't think Abi is actually ever W.

Also this. This is pretty much as close to clearing I think I can provide on a read.

Abigail is very much townie.

I do not see a single angle that Abigail has been playing to if wolf. W Abigail does not quickfire votes the way they've been going about it.

Gamestate thoughts, probably will spread these over a few posts to get my sweet number up.

WWA and LC are town cleared based on SVS Legacy.

Inclined to believe the legacy based on SVS's play. The only detractor from this being true is if the team is LC/SVS as the WWA/SVS interactions I detailed above don't exist for LC/SVS.
SVS/WWA are not W/W and SVS gave the clear to WWA
LC/SVS can be W/W and SVS gave the clear to LC.

These both are just stipulations and I don't think to be true. If SVS's legacy is actually a fabrication then I just kinda lose to it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:03 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Still strongly believe he's mafia

Pretty confident ender is town

Still need to do in depth pairings wowee
Alright, so I get it d3, but there comes a point where you gotta explain why when you say I'm scum back to back.
I mean if you get it d3 then you get it d4

Not how this works homie.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:17 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:14 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:24 pm I'm confused, wtf happened while I was out
I see people voting ender and boq is dead
Which is pretty unfortunate, bleh
Should I vote yet? I'm going to sleep, I just got home and I'm exhausted but I don't want to not vote. If you don't want me to hammer I'll stick a vote on someone else who isn't a wagon just so I don't face any consequences.
What was it you did that you couldn't do as a wolf? Try telling me without referring to alignments we don't know. You got SVS lynched, that's something, right?
Didn't WWA and you have a pass based on SVS Legacy?
If you believe everything you read in a legacy, yes.

I mean, it's contradictory for WWA to vote SVS over while at the same time SVS is a W teammate lying to clear WWA.

We'd have to live in a wild world for that to be the case, I think.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:14 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:24 pm I'm confused, wtf happened while I was out
I see people voting ender and boq is dead
Which is pretty unfortunate, bleh
Should I vote yet? I'm going to sleep, I just got home and I'm exhausted but I don't want to not vote. If you don't want me to hammer I'll stick a vote on someone else who isn't a wagon just so I don't face any consequences.
What was it you did that you couldn't do as a wolf? Try telling me without referring to alignments we don't know. You got SVS lynched, that's something, right?

Didn't WWA and you have a pass based on SVS Legacy?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:03 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Still strongly believe he's mafia

Pretty confident ender is town

Still need to do in depth pairings wowee

Alright, so I get it d3, but there comes a point where you gotta explain why when you say I'm scum back to back.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:24 pm I'm sorry what, why is ender being wagoned??

I'm only here for a bit then going back to sleep but

Why?

How was like "it's ender" then died. Ender is also generally scummy.

2 away from hammer.

I'm not opposed to it, but figured we should be mindful.

SVS being able to alignment confirm via legacy only reinforced it as an interaction between Marmot/Ender.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:13 pm PoE feels like Boq, Ender, Nook.

Will sort further later.
Why Ender? Curious to know what the case on him is. On D1 pretty much everyone said he was towny, but as of D3 I've seen reads on him trending down, so I'm wondering why.

I saw it during Ender's D2 "here's my spread reads on everyone" it felt kinda wolfy, but, further, Ender remembering Marmot but not me when we were effectively two null slots stood out to me as likely teammate interaction. That's why I brought it up in the first place.

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

I like when my PoE is correct.

Rip Boq.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:49 am I think I still really want to kill wilgy tbh

PoE feels like Boq, Ender, Nook.

Will sort further later.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:32 am
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:30 am now get off me and play the game, or i will chop you

last time we did this i had a 3/4 solve and you disagreed with me every step of the way, don’t be like this
Please do I'm voting you every single day till I die

fwiw, near EoD Robyn did instruct for an SVS vote/wagon. I see no reason W Robyn would do that while at risk of being voted out being a lead wagon alongside me.

Like, there would've been no reason W robyn doesn't just go 'buddies vote wilgy' and that didn't happen.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:09 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:58 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:55 am (Not finished work yet)

Why is Robyn being voted???
Think LC is voting Robyn for the same reason as D2.

Not entirely sure why Abigail voted there.
Lily

ty

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:06 am Well
Who wants a cookie tonight?

[VOTE: WWA] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:34 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:30 am
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:23 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:24 am "Limited Parity Checker": The way S~V~S is claiming the role works is extremely strong?

I would certainly not expect Hat and Boot to mean the same thing across nights.

Sigh. I appreciate the info but no, I'm not exactly happy.
cheer up, i am very happy, i always trade 1 town for 1 mafia and 2 clears very single time

not to say that it was planned or that i didn't brutally kill a town or anything, but the way it turned out was great
Why are you so sure she was actually town?

I'm not arguing against it I'm more looking to assuage my own doubt lol
cause it fits her play and it fits my worldview, i had wwa and long con as town, mech tells us that, i change nothing except increase in confidence

and as town with mech on marmot and unable to do anything else with limited time i reckon that simply pushing marmot is optimal and like the legacy is a bit convoluted to be faked + day legacies usually never get altered

just everything makes sense

This kinda matches my thoughts on the subject.

The fact that SVS felt hung up on Marmot is what drove the sr. Me being wrong for the right reasons per SVS's legacy makes sense to me, and thus is likely true.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:10 am Her all-day push on marmot makes so much more sense with that context

Yeah, kinda wish we went with Marmot and gave SVS time now.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:05 am

There was something to be found in S~V~S' shoe

Legacy Day 3: Legacy Day Three SVS: I’m town, I’m a limited parity checker. I never had this kind of role before and I was looking forward to using it, but figured the jokes on me! Parity checking in a closed set up with no flips won’t tell me much, plus I only choose one target, the second person is random. I have three shots, Night One I chose Long Con, and Random. org chose Marmot ... and they came back two different alignments! LC as Hat, Marmot as Boot. I didn't know which was which though. Night Two though, I got lucky. I checked Windward cause I was pretty sure she was town, and she came back Hat! Same as LC. Random. org picked ME!! And I came back Hat too. So WWA and LC are town, since I am, too. Marmot is NOT town. He's a boot, a bad boot. So let's see who pushes back the hardest to save the boot!

A thorough search of Marmot's body turns up no sign of any legacy.

Ah, this makes sense now.

[VOTE: svs] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:20 am wigly's life hangs in the balance, cause wwa and schweppes don't vote me

If it's really that important that I go over, that's fine, but I really do think there's better options as it stands. Dying before those options feels bad-ish?

There is benefits to a Marmot yeet, mostly in the fact that I'd like SVS to be able to see and respond to my sr.

I inquired on their thoughts previously thinking that'd be enough, but I was mistaken.

However then we may just be burning a cycle. Dunno.

I'm chillin seeing if SVS will become an option before I need to drop a vote.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:55 am (Not finished work yet)

Why is Robyn being voted???

Think LC is voting Robyn for the same reason as D2.

Not entirely sure why Abigail voted there.

I think the townier side of the equation is
Bereft < Nook < Robyn < LC < WWA < Abigail

Vote order if I go over:
Marmot (hopefully not needed after today) > SVS > Ender > Boc

mefinks this is correct.

Are they even here to vote lol?

oh well

Kinda a shitty situation.

Like, even a Boc vote is probably better than a Robyn vote, but that options even more locked that Marmot.

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:06 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:05 am I'd back an SVS wagon if it appears.
do u trust me to get bereft and ender to chop svs if i give my blessing?

Unfortunately not, and I feel that we are running out of time. I'd definitely vote Marmot/SVS before voting you if there was a means to put them over, but letting myself go over when I'm not sure on your slot feels like it'd be a disservice.

I'd back an SVS wagon if it appears.

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:47 am @DrWilgy bereft and ender are both followers of my cult, your solving matters and i can bring their votes on someone, just ftr

I think as it stands I'd prefer a vote in SVS/Ender, lingering scumfeels on both of these. Marmot's another option, but only due to the risk of them not being killed for afk.

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:49 pm I think any votes on marmot wasted due to their impending death in all likelihood.

I am abivalent wrt to both S~V~S and Wilgy's alignment. They both are playing as if they don't know much about what is going on, but I'm not confident in saying either is town.

I'm somewhat getting into it at this point.

Players that are still kinda off my radar, or at least I don't have any solid points of towny/wolfy are Robyn, Boc, and you. I just don't really know what to read from your slots as I've read.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:50 pm Shadow vote on drwilgy

I'm like...reasonably confident in this? He makes sense wjth just about everyone and he's independently kinda scummy, so I think I just want to kill him today

Please elaborate on me making sense with everyone? That feels kinda like either a shrug take or an easy push to make.

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:34 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:31 am Why do I have 2 lol?

Also why is it Robyn and I when Marmot is still around?
marmot gets whacked when he doesn’t post by tonight and i sr svs sorta

I have a slight sr there.

I don't know what SVS feels outside of Marmot, who's not here. That feels kinda icky. Town SVS is also somewhat snappy, and that was only mildy present n0.

I'm trying to digest what they said about the dead players and tonewise, I want to believe it? I just struggle to see T SVS where the only push is Marmot.

That's all me nootifoots.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:32 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:31 am Why do I have 2 lol?

Also why is it Robyn and I when Marmot is still around?
Marmot is bait, you're the real mafia

Damn foiled again.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:12 pm She doesn't need to say that if she knows there's a janitor;

This is actually better than even the 'quick vote + no agenda seen.'

I don't think Abi is actually ever W.

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