FALCON
Falcon leads with some fluff and a comment on how a Rondo post was dirty.
First post of value below. Within the fluff magic 8 ball says 'it is certain on 112 or MR being scum.' followed by an explanation on the magic 8 ball results. I don't think I'd have seen this as anything other than fluff if it wasn't for the explanation. Did Falcon feel the need to explain away knowing MR certainly being scum?
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:41 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:32 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:30 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:28 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:26 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:23 am
@112 @Master Radishes @falcon45ca
odds all of us are town? low I think
Hold on, I shall consult my Magic 8 Ball..."As I see it, yes". WTF?
Interesting. Falcon you scum?
Hold on, I shall once again consult my Magic 8 Ball..."My reply is no."
Kk.
!
Then there's a wolf in 112 or MR yes?
The question itself makes me think that KZA isn't the one.
Hold on, I shall...you guessed it! consult my Magic 8 Ball once more! "It is certain."
BTW, I don't actually have a Magic 8 Ball, but the internet does
https://www.magicball8.com/response
Falcon's progression on DK seems fair:
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:50 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:40 pm
"you are using a lot of AtE" - NAI, useless point
"avoiding posting about your reads" - misrep, I do post reads, I just dont like readlists because they are largely useless content on demand.
"using mac's read to remove pressure" - my guy that is ~not~ a good reason to fos me. i only mentioned it once in passing and you are treating me like I continuously shove it in people's face.
The first part I disagree.
The second, fine if that's how you play, I'll accept that.
The third part, do you stand behind Mac's read on you as a reason to town read you?
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:08 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:56 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:50 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:40 pm
"you are using a lot of AtE" - NAI, useless point
"avoiding posting about your reads" - misrep, I do post reads, I just dont like readlists because they are largely useless content on demand.
"using mac's read to remove pressure" - my guy that is ~not~ a good reason to fos me. i only mentioned it once in passing and you are treating me like I continuously shove it in people's face.
The first part I disagree.
The second, fine if that's how you play, I'll accept that.
The third part, do you stand behind Mac's read on you as a reason to town read you?
prove that AtE is scum indicative for me.
Well, let's see your flip!
What's the answer to my question re: Mac's read on you? Do you feel you should be town read because he does?
yes, because an IC of his level should have their townreads respected. you should perhaps actually read the game instead of just clicking notifs because I did post this in a recent post.
Yeah, I'm fine voting for you.
Piggy backing off Mac's town status isn't towny IMO.
A notable interaction with 112. Slightly sheeping MAC while providing own input. Interesting that if Scum, Falcon wouldn't have know 112's 3p color and likely would've expected a green.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:09 pm
I believe 112 is town tbh. What you are pushing him for is town indicative for 112.
Do you not think that metas can be faked if you know your meta?
112s a better wolf than that. What are you pushing him for is NAI from her
Falcon rule of 3'd here:
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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:15 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:33 am
@falcon45ca who do you think is mafia?
Fucked if I know.
I'm fine with lynching DK, MR, Ender right now
at this point, Falcon had not interacted with MR or Ender, and rather fluffposted. The only real chain of progression we had seen from Falcon was DK.
Falcon shade towards MR but left open ended:
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:47 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:43 pm
The no kill is nice but I am currently doubting everything I think I know.
Spicy. What new ideas inspire you?
Cuz this kind of attitude isn't what I normally expect from towny MR...you mention BK, any other takes?
Day 3, Falcon put some energy into the MR counter wagon
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:59 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:24 pm
Okay I gave up reading Ender's wall.
As far as I can tell @EnderWiggin you don't like I'm hedgey. Well...too bad? Like I'm not a Mac or Tutuu who confidently and abrasively overstates reads. I hesitate on everything because I always find counterarguments to myself.
You pulled up one game of meta to compare and not only did it contain equally hedgey posts which you seem to ignore or underweigh, but that's a small sample size. I can link you games of other town games of mine if you want and you can see the same thing.
You also point out I don't show progression on reads, like Scotty I think it was. Again, yeah, no, I don't. Not D1 anyway. Like sometimes I will of course, if I find a strong town or scumread. But I don't play D1s very seriously and mostly just let things unfold in their own right and let my impressions swirl together in my head. I don't state everything in thread.
A lot of this is predicated on my activity/presence level imo, even if you don't outright state it is. I struggled to get into this game because it was so active and I just...don't have time in my life to dedicate to such a high intensity game. I work, I have a wife who needs attention and feeding, I have things to do. I play in snippets, like 30 mins in the morning, 30 mins after work before I make dinner, an hour after my wife falls asleep, etc. (The one exception was Tuesday, and you'll notice my activity spike in my iso then I bet.) I can't keep up right now in a game like this, not properly anyway. I can't read everything and everyone and make solid reads and give insightful takes. I do best when I'm in sync with the threadstate and outside of one moment D2 where I felt like I was finally vibing with a few people, I'm still finding this roster too large to get a firm grasp of everything going on.
D3, now, for instance - this is the first moment in 24 hours since the round began I've been able to devote time to it. I've missed 800 posts and now am playing catch up. And as soon as I am done this post I'm going to get ready for bed, do some other stuff I need to do (flavour on MU; for integrity reasons won't say more), and watch a show with my wife. And I'll wake up tomorrow and again be behind and then go to work etc.
This turned into a bit of a rant and I should probably edit that down but don't have time to. Basically I think your concerns about me are steeped more or less in 'he's not here/doing enough/showing his every thought' and yeah, no, I'm not. That does not make me scum.
Do you & the missus watch Downton Abbey? I just started and now that's how I hear your posts.
[VOTE:
UNVOTE] aubergine
I'll give you some space for now.
Day 4 was nothing but fluff and a Rondo Vote
Day 5 we actually got momentum out of him, but most of it was picking up on the Epi case, and shading me for shading him.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:55 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:28 am
Back on
[VOTE:
DrWilgy] aubergine.
That's the correct answer today.
If I die, I lose. Sucks, but I'll put a notch in my belt if the civilians win this one. Please kill Wilgy. He called me innocent and I'm independent. That's bullshit. What host does that?
Oh snap!
[VOTE:
Wilgy] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:57 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:54 pm
Some explain where Falcon's civ equity comes from?
Since you've been calling me scum for quite awhile now, I find it interesting you haven't investigated me
I don't believe I've called you scum. More so a portion of the POE I think would be best to deal with. I do not have the energy to read your ISO at the moment, so inquiry with others is how I must proceed.
You've been calling for my lynch and voting for me since August dude. Why are you hedging on calling me scum? Do you usually vote for player's you think are town?
Hedging because I'm not 100% on you being scum. It's more like a 67%. References to you in the past was me hoping to gain insight and to see why in spite of PoE, there never seemed to be a strong push towards your yeet.
No one would bring up the Falcon placements in my PoE plus it feels like you are perpetually a small blip on everyone's radar. Not big enough to attract attention, but there. Why is this the case?
Wait, so you said you haven't called me scum, but you're also 67% sure I'm scum and you've been voting for me for several RDs....now you want me to tell you why I'm a small blip on other people's radar...
Again, if I'm a part of your POE, I find it very hard to believe you've not bothered to investigate me. Or cared to find out from the host how your ability works with 3Ps.
Yeah, I'm fine with your flip today
I'm ending here as there's not much else.
So something to note at this point, the only opinions that I've found of Falcon thinking someone is wolf are DK, a fickle MR vote, Me and Rondo. Falcon believed 112 to be civ.
There's nothing else. Questions that lead nowhere. Fluffy fluff galore. Plus in spite of the MR vote, they moved off it when MR was actually gaining traction.
Falcon via MR
Not much, MR had a 'scum read' on Falcon, but it was so wishy washy that I'm unable to tell genuine shade or not:
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:21 am
Falcon may be scum. That last post did not sit well with me.
But uh huge grain of salt here. I've mis-read him twice in a row this month. (Or to be clear the second time I was mafia so it wasn't a misread, but he was being conventionally wolfy and other town chopped him with little help needed from me except voicing my support. I definitely would've misread him had I been town.) I think he's not really been tryharding much in games lately and it's leading him to do standard scummy stuff even as town because he's just not really paying attention or something.
Sorry if this is insulting Falc.
Conclusion, Falcon yeet is fine. I feel like there'd be more to work with here if Falcon was pro town. The move off of MR doesn't sit right, and the hard opinions and opposition towards me only picking up once I start actually eyeballing the bird screams somethin, not sure what though. Can see team interactions with MR, but they aren't screaming or anything.
The questions leading no where constantly gets me. A look of questioning is nice, but where are the conclusions? I think this is why I'm often misyeeted, so I get it, but perhaps I'll be the misyeeter this time? Not sure. Seems scummy, like wanting the appearance of trying to deduce.