The Syndicate

Ron Swanson wrote:Ann is dropping out of my radar as well. Her contribution to Day 2 turned out to be empty, since she never made it back to change anything. I'd inquire if she can sum up her suspects for right now, since I don't remember much of her stance upon perusing the posts. On the hand, I also felt that she had been bitting my ass because she's uncomfortable with the roleplay ratio. Nothing I can do about that, however, woman. I'm Ron ***ing Swanson. But at least it's good to get on the same page of all that messy exchange.

Ann Perkins wrote:I find it interesting that 2 of the people I am suspecting, Donna & Craig, voted to tie up to the vote on Leslie. But... Mafia wouldn't all vote to save Leslie, right? Has Donna/Craig/Leslie even communicated with eachother in this game?? I mean, if Mafia has a day chat, they might forget to talk in THIS day chat.
In any case, I'm going to start the day with a vote on Leslie. I wouldn't mind a Chris lynch today either.

Sorry I wasn't able to check in at the end of the day, was out with the fam. There was no "unvote" option yesterday, so I couldn't unvote Ron; Ron definitely has stepped it up yesterday, in my eyes, in towniness. I know other players always thought he was town, but I'm just not used to players roleplaying x.x throws me off. Ron questioning me, and accepting some answers but not others to things I have said/done really helped me getting over my tunnelvision on the guy. Sorry Ron
ps. you DID claim Citizen twice :P

Chris, can you give us a read on Leslie & Donna?
Donna, can you give a read on Chris & Leslie?
Leslie...? Same thing.

Ron Swanson wrote:Back in the saddle, for most of the remaining hours.

The tally for Chris is a bit trigger happy at the moment to give me full comfort in there being no tension in this voting process. That being said, I have yet to be dissuaded from my Chris vote, as I find him putting the most elaborate show of posts bleeding out words and attempts to catch up on previous suspects. Which he didn't bother with, in the alledged spur of the moment of his late vote last phase, going instead for a "ping" on Jamm. Day 2 and voting on a ping, good Lord! I don't find anything in his explanations to make his vote any less sidelining and/or messing up with the overall tally. You know what going with the gut is, Chris? Seeing one of your three suspects to be leading (not by a wide margin at that) - which you yourself acknowledge to have seen - and placing the vote there to call it a day, in case you had any real convinction.

I find it clear that Newport was either wipped by his dad to start taking this seriously or switched with a new replica. For the moment, I am not sure how to validate his contribution. The "vote me" stuff could be mafia throwing it in our faces just as much as civilian saying stupid stuff.

Jerry's vote couldn't be more lackluster, Chris fits his "high posters" old agenda, so he's acting like he might as well take a phase off to work on his fart symphony.

I want to believe Leslie is town, even for a bit of sentimental value. The sheer thought of having worked with a traitor all these years... Going back to what made me second doubt the Leslie lynch, for a bit, there's her having kept her in the lead (although it wasn't that big and sacrificial of a lead) and, while I don't give any kind of serious value to these things, her plead that she's town does not reek of fakery and is instead couple with efforts to keep herself afloat. Unfortunately, however, that is it. She's in a position of gaining suspicion across the board. I disagree with Andrew and feel the Jamm phrasing angle on suspecting her is pure semantics. Self-preservation is self-preservations. Civilians would do it. Mafia would do it. The person who wouldn't do it is Ron Swanson. Because he laughs at death.

I will be far more pissed if Andy turns out mafia, because it's mostly (ok Andrew let's say 80%) roleplay and drumming to the extent of getting lucky that he never ends on the burner for it.

Ben had a lukewarm Day 2 and his Jerry case gave me just a tiny bit vibe of steering, especially since he got Leslie (suspicious) and April (not so much) on board for a while. Then again, I agree with everything he has written in this post. I can only mark him as a possible deepwolf, but that isn't saying much. Defeat will probably await us if what Ben is doing is sheeping.

Ann is dropping out of my radar as well. Her contribution to Day 2 turned out to be empty, since she never made it back to change anything. I'd inquire if she can sum up her suspects for right now, since I don't remember much of her stance upon perusing the posts. On the hand, I also felt that she had been bitting my ass because she's uncomfortable with the roleplay ratio. Nothing I can do about that, however, woman. I'm Ron ***ing Swanson. But at least it's good to get on the same page of all that messy exchange.

Everyone else should be ashamed, if civilian. If not, enjoy your free "I won as mafia without doing shit" tax deduction coupon, at the end of all this. If anyone has any pertinent ideas about Joke-Ringo, Tom or Donna, I'm all ears.

Ron Swanson wrote:Back in the saddle, for most of the remaining hours.

The tally for Chris is a bit trigger happy at the moment to give me full comfort in there being no tension in this voting process. That being said, I have yet to be dissuaded from my Chris vote, as I find him putting the most elaborate show of posts bleeding out words and attempts to catch up on previous suspects. Which he didn't bother with, in the alledged spur of the moment of his late vote last phase, going instead for a "ping" on Jamm. Day 2 and voting on a ping, good Lord! I don't find anything in his explanations to make his vote any less sidelining and/or messing up with the overall tally. You know what going with the gut is, Chris? Seeing one of your three suspects to be leading (not by a wide margin at that) - which you yourself acknowledge to have seen - and placing the vote there to call it a day, in case you had any real convinction.

I find it clear that Newport was either wipped by his dad to start taking this seriously or switched with a new replica. For the moment, I am not sure how to validate his contribution. The "vote me" stuff could be mafia throwing it in our faces just as much as civilian saying stupid stuff.

Jerry's vote couldn't be more lackluster, Chris fits his "high posters" old agenda, so he's acting like he might as well take a phase off to work on his fart symphony.

I want to believe Leslie is town, even for a bit of sentimental value. The sheer thought of having worked with a traitor all these years... Going back to what made me second doubt the Leslie lynch, for a bit, there's her having kept her in the lead (although it wasn't that big and sacrificial of a lead) and, while I don't give any kind of serious value to these things, her plead that she's town does not reek of fakery and is instead couple with efforts to keep herself afloat. Unfortunately, however, that is it. She's in a position of gaining suspicion across the board. I disagree with Andrew and feel the Jamm phrasing angle on suspecting her is pure semantics. Self-preservation is self-preservations. Civilians would do it. Mafia would do it. The person who wouldn't do it is Ron Swanson. Because he laughs at death.

I will be far more pissed if Andy turns out mafia, because it's mostly (ok Andrew let's say 80%) roleplay and drumming to the extent of getting lucky that he never ends on the burner for it.

Ben had a lukewarm Day 2 and his Jerry case gave me just a tiny bit vibe of steering, especially since he got Leslie (suspicious) and April (not so much) on board for a while. Then again, I agree with everything he has written in this post. I can only mark him as a possible deepwolf, but that isn't saying much. Defeat will probably await us if what Ben is doing is sheeping.

Ann is dropping out of my radar as well. Her contribution to Day 2 turned out to be empty, since she never made it back to change anything. I'd inquire if she can sum up her suspects for right now, since I don't remember much of her stance upon perusing the posts. On the hand, I also felt that she had been bitting my ass because she's uncomfortable with the roleplay ratio. Nothing I can do about that, however, woman. I'm Ron ***ing Swanson. But at least it's good to get on the same page of all that messy exchange.

Everyone else should be ashamed, if civilian. If not, enjoy your free "I won as mafia without doing shit" tax deduction coupon, at the end of all this. If anyone has any pertinent ideas about Joke-Ringo, Tom or Donna, I'm all ears.

Chris Traeger wrote:Ann Perkins! You don't have to be defensive towards me, after reading your ISO I feel like I am finally understanding you. And I feel comfortable with your alignment at this point. Would you mind answering my question regarding you change of heart about Ron, what makes you feel more comfortable with him now? As far as you saying I am hypersensitive about it. I would not characterize it that way. I am addressing it because twice now you have linked me with people erroneously based entirely upon my lack of interaction with them. I think that is a mistaken logic.

My ISO of myself is not a real ISO in the traditional sense. I know I am town, I don't need to analyze my own posts to figure that out. And I would not expect you or anyone else to simply take my word on it. I do however, think it is only fair if people are going to accuse me of doing nothing but roleplay that they justify it after looking at the reality. It is a baseless accusation. Well, that's not entirely true, it's based in Ron's imagination and his repetition of it. So if you or anyone is going to use that argument I think they should have to first face the reality, as highlighted in those posts.

Regarding Leslie, I don't think inaccurate = town. I do think her particular inaccuracies only seem to jive with a civilian mind set. I explained it pretty clearly I think. Letting her vote for me change your mind is silly, teammates bus all the time. We are not on a baddie team together though, she is not bussing me. I believe she is town, and misguided town at that. But it's ok, I still think she's literally the best person I know!

Ron... oh Ron. I voted based on my gut. I went with Jamm because his post seemed so much more blatantly bad. I am not going to explain it again. I didn't do an ISO on Jerry during Day 2 because I was swamped with work! Being a city manager is quite taxing. We can't all sit in our offices all day whittling recorders for the worshippers of Zorp. I don't know if it would have changed things for me yesterday if I had done one, it doesn't matter now. I voted my gut. Either get over it, or lynch me. I don't care. I'm too zen to care.

Linki: There he is again, just in time to toss in a vote with a lackluster reason. You can always count on Jerry!

Jerry Gergich wrote:Hey gang! Sorry I've been away, but I accidentally ran over myself with my car. I'm okay though, just bruises mostly. I have always though Chris' enthusiasm seemed phony, and I am happy to vote for him today.

Ben Wyatt wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:I find it kind of strange how 2 active players, Craig & Ben, haven't interacted at all the entire game so far. Maybe they have another day chat they can communicate in ho-hummm

HEY CRAIG, HOW'S IT GOING? I'M DOING GOOD.

Chris Traeger wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:I find it interesting that 2 of the people I am suspecting, Donna & Craig, voted to tie up to the vote on Leslie. But... Mafia wouldn't all vote to save Leslie, right? Has Donna/Craig/Leslie even communicated with eachother in this game?? I mean, if Mafia has a day chat, they might forget to talk in THIS day chat.
In any case, I'm going to start the day with a vote on Leslie. I wouldn't mind a Chris lynch today either.

Sorry I wasn't able to check in at the end of the day, was out with the fam. There was no "unvote" option yesterday, so I couldn't unvote Ron; Ron definitely has stepped it up yesterday, in my eyes, in towniness. I know other players always thought he was town, but I'm just not used to players roleplaying x.x throws me off. Ron questioning me, and accepting some answers but not others to things I have said/done really helped me getting over my tunnelvision on the guy. Sorry Ron
ps. you DID claim Citizen twice :P



Chris, can you give us a read on Leslie & Donna?
Donna, can you give a read on Chris & Leslie?
Leslie...? Same thing.

Ann Perkins wrote:I find it interesting that 2 of the people I am suspecting, Donna & Craig, voted to tie up to the vote on Leslie. But... Mafia wouldn't all vote to save Leslie, right? Has Donna/Craig/Leslie even communicated with eachother in this game?? I mean, if Mafia has a day chat, they might forget to talk in THIS day chat.
In any case, I'm going to start the day with a vote on Leslie. I wouldn't mind a Chris lynch today either.

Sorry I wasn't able to check in at the end of the day, was out with the fam. There was no "unvote" option yesterday, so I couldn't unvote Ron; Ron definitely has stepped it up yesterday, in my eyes, in towniness. I know other players always thought he was town, but I'm just not used to players roleplaying x.x throws me off. Ron questioning me, and accepting some answers but not others to things I have said/done really helped me getting over my tunnelvision on the guy. Sorry Ron
ps. you DID claim Citizen twice :P



Chris, can you give us a read on Leslie & Donna?
Donna, can you give a read on Chris & Leslie?
Leslie...? Same thing.

Ann Perkins! I love you, but I don't trust you. At all. Your idea that if someone hasn't spoken to someone else directly they are therefore immediately bad together is a ridiculous assessment. Also, I'm the father of your baby, and you can't remember my name. I'm not sure how I feel about that. No, I am sure. I don't like it. I did not vote in coordination with anyone. While I do have superior coordination and control of my body, I barely had any coordination of my vote with myself. In fact, I had someone distracting me at the last minute of the vote here in my home and it caused a fight. I don't like heated confrontation, it makes me very nervous. So no, I am not on a team with Donna and Leslie and I did not vote to save Leslie. I did not even know my vote caused a tie.

As far as Donna Meagle is concerned, she is an exemplary Parks Employee, but her performance this game has been lacking and I don't like that such a low poster came in and called me blendy. It seems too easy considering that Ron and April were very outspoken in their inaccurate accusations that I have only been role playing and not contributing anything to the game. More on that in a bit.

Leslie's accusations have seemed to be too blatantly inaccurate for me to think she actually is mafia. With her activity in the thread, if she were bad I would expect her accusations to be something that could gain more traction. I mean clearly April was civ, her comments about it being a stretch to call her a confirmed civ were either an attempt to protect April from the inevitable night kill or just plain being obtuse. Either way, I don't see a case for her being a member of the mafia team.

Wow everyone is piling votes on me right now, aren't I just Mr. Popular? Well, yes I actually am, but that's not the point right now.

According to Ron and all, I am not putting anything game relevant into the thread, but only role play. I invited someone to ISO me and no one took me up on it. Just proves that the more you repeat a lie, the more people believe it to be true. So, I'll do an ISO on myself for you all! I do the best ISO's anyway, they really are so much fun!

Ron, you are presenting the only "if" situation, but that is literally what happened. I was doing a catch p, but I did not have enough time. I got to the post from Jeremy Jamm that bothered me and it outweighed me previous concerns with Ann and Jerry at that moment. I had something like six minutes in which left to vote, O I went with my gut. Yes, I think it was Jerry that was far in the lead and I don't know if Jamm even had any votes when I looked at it before I started trying to catch up. But if I am ok with Jerry being in the lead then why does it matter if I put my vote on someone who genuinely raised my suspicion? I voted in hte moment where i was most suspicious. I cast my vote and went straight to writing my explanation because I think had like four minutes and I had problems with my internet. I only discovered the tie and the posts from you all about my vote looking bad after the vote was closed because I had to pee. Even I have to pee sometimes. No more often than is healthy, of course. I can't make this stuff up folks, this is real life. Once I saw my post was going through I walked away. But if you choose to continue to believe the narrative you're spinning, you go right ahead. You are wrong and it will be evident when I get lynched.

Now, I did an ISO on myself to prove how false this idea that I am not contributing actually is... Look forward for that one coming up next!

Ann Perkins wrote:I find it kind of strange how 2 active players, Chris & Ben, haven't interacted at all the entire game so far. Maybe they have another day chat they can communicate in ho-hummm

That being said, Donna does look really bad. Not sure if helpless Civ or unhelpful Mafia trying to lay low.
Tom is another person who I don't see much of, and when I do I am not impressed at all.

April Ludgate wrote:Ann, what changed between here:

Ann Perkins wrote:Basically the only reason I'm keeping my vote off April atm. Her lynch does offer valuable information, but a better lynch may present itself.

and here:

Ann Perkins wrote:OK April, because I believe your claim and respect your opinion because of that, I have read back on Ron.

?

Ann Perkins wrote:I'm sorry, but it's the opposite. I may have spoken against her, but I have said more to her benefit. Even discouraging a lynch on her.
You're right, that I did state that lynching her will reduce the setup to 2 possibilities. But I stated after that mafia already has that knowledge and wouldn't risk sacrificing themselves in order to share that knowledge with us. Even if it does possibly out them a power role, it just wouldn't be worth it for them.

Ron Swanson wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:I am not as pleased as April with Ann's vote, due to the progression that shows up in her appreciation of Bill, which is:

-- No signs of suspicion in early chatter with Bill over April's claim.
-- No issues whatsoever with Bill's claim, in fact takes it as "confirmation on her [April's] claim" based on zero substance. Besides, a reminder that, for the same format of claim, she deemed me suspicious.
-- Wants a case "presented to her" when April prods her for an opinion on Bill.
-- Ben analyses his posts and, all of a sudden, Ann is content with the points made, "can understand the votes" on Bill and joins the party.

1) I had no suspicion of Bill earlier because I didn't find him to be suspicious. It truly is that simple.
2) I don't know when this happened. Please clarify which post you're talking about so I can address it, because you're misinterpreting. I believe April's claim because it could backfire on Mafia SO easily. Had nothing to do with Bill.
3) See point 1. I did not have any suspicion on Bill at that point, so I asked April (who has my high town read) for her point of view of the subject. They way she laid it out to me change my thinking into someone who was very insincere, and looked like planning went into every post he said (I guess role-playing does that, too) which I sometimes read as a player making sure nothing they say is taken wrong.
4) my post coming after Bens is pure coincidence, and my change in vote was purely on April's presentation and that I saw nothing pro-town from him when I went back to reread. But even so, I don't see a problem with having additional reads on a person, so Bens ISO was appreciated, even though I hate ISOs.

Ron Swanson wrote:Regarding 2, I have no idea what this is, then.

Ann Perkins wrote:

Bill Dexhart wrote:

Ben Wyatt wrote:And I can say that my role definitely is in both 1 and C.

Thanks for the confirmation on her claim.
I can't say whether or not I agree with her at this moment.

Ron Swanson wrote:Regarding 3, I have no way of discerning from your posts where and when exactly you had April as your "high town read". Quite the opposite, because here you said:

Ann Perkins wrote:

Bill Dexhart wrote:Why make the claim when you have no way of proving otherwise? I still think a mafia member is the one most likely to make that claim. Especially given they are the only ones who know what the current setup is.

And a vote for me too? Do I get a gold star if I win this electi...oh wait. This isn't an election.

Because Mafia already has the game narrowed to 2 different setups. If a counter claim gets made, it informs us what the setup actually is.

Would that not take the Mafia's advantage away in a setup like this?

Basically the only reason I'm keeping my vote off April atm. Her lynch does offer valuable information, but a better lynch may present itself.

Ron Swanson wrote:Regarding 4, it appears indeed that I have mistaken you for reacting to Ben's review of Bill, not April's. Hmm.

Ann Perkins wrote: So, to sum it up for you:
- person who I am most interested in lynching (Ron) is a town read to most players, and no one will join on a d1 lynch on him or pressure him.
- my strongest town read (not really a read I guess, but you understand) lays out a logical argument about a player.
- I cross reference her points against his posts, and find that he doesn't really appear to be attempting to help town too much.
- Bill appears to be an OK lynch, but not my #1 choice. I look at vote count and understand my vote is obviously more useful to us in a different position, especially with only a few day hours left where I'd be online.
Therefore, my vote was moved from Ron to Bill.

Ron Swanson wrote:I can acknowledge this interpretation, but surely you can understand that "I wanted my vote to be more useful by joining the wagon party" is not an absolving statement. Guess who can pile on a wagon just as well, on pretense of "utility". The mafia.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Looking at these files all day, I have to say that I think the killer is someone who posts a lot, and that it's very likely that at least one voter for Bill was bad. Cross referencing the two leads me to Ben, Ann, Chris, or Ron. Ron is just such a great guy, and after reading some more of his posts, I think I have to trust him for now.

That means I think we should lynch Ben, Ann, or Chris. Ann used the word "interesting" in her second post of the game, which to me always seems like a fluff word that doesn't say anything but appears to say something, so she is definitely on my radar.

Ann Perkins wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Hullo how's it going friends

Aren't you paying attention, woman? This is the worst day since Charles Mulligan's Steakhouse was shut down. Show some damn respect!

I can't ask how my friends are doing during this tragedy? Interesting...

Anyone else have thoughts on these three? I'm so lucky to work with such smart people.

Ron Swanson wrote:I am not as pleased as April with Ann's vote, due to the progression that shows up in her appreciation of Bill, which is:

-- No signs of suspicion in early chatter with Bill over April's claim.
-- No issues whatsoever with Bill's claim, in fact takes it as "confirmation on her [April's] claim" based on zero substance. Besides, a reminder that, for the same format of claim, she deemed me suspicious.
-- Wants a case "presented to her" when April prods her for an opinion on Bill.
-- Ben analyses his posts and, all of a sudden, Ann is content with the points made, "can understand the votes" on Bill and joins the party.

Jerry Gergich wrote:Oh geez, I can't believe Craig is dead. That's so sad! You know, when I'm feeling a little down, my beautiful wife and daughters always cheer me up. But right now all I really want to do is find the killer. Ben was awful quick to get in here after the kill. I wonder if he was expecting it.

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Sure, he hasn't done anything exceptionally scummy in the game, but neither has anyone else.

Have you met Bill?

Would be nice if you presented a case against me, so I can see your POV.

I don't think you're bad Ann. Just gross.

I think Bill is bad.

Bill Dexhart wrote:

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Hullo how's it going friends

Aren't you paying attention, woman? This is the worst day since Charles Mulligan's Steakhouse was shut down. Show some damn respect!

I can't ask how my friends are doing during this tragedy? Interesting...

Don't try to bond with me.

I'm the miller. If the cop investigates me it'll come back mafia even though I'm town. So, cop... don't investigate me. It's a waste. We can eliminate 6 of the 8 setups in the table, it's either [1] or [C]. The baddies know exactly the setup now. I think it's a good enough trade. People can believe me or not I don't really care. I passed up a gay Halloween party to be here. Do you know how much fun gay Halloween parties are?

What do we have to trust you on this info?

Obviously no answer to this question, it's pointless.

Bill Dexhart wrote:Why make the claim when you have no way of proving otherwise? I still think a mafia member is the one most likely to make that claim. Especially given they are the only ones who know what the current setup is.

And a vote for me too? Do I get a gold star if I win this electi...oh wait. This isn't an election.

It doesn't look like he's thinking his accusations through.

Bill Dexhart wrote:

April Ludgate wrote:

Ben Wyatt wrote:Well, now you know that we know that your role claim could easily be faked, you know? The possibility of you being a despicable liar face shouldn't be ignored. It's like in Game of Thrones, when Littlefinger tells Ned Stark that "Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done since you climbed off your horse."

Don't you have some Star Trek fan fiction to be writing or something?

Bill's response to my claim was weird. He acted like I should be able to support my claim other than just saying it. I wonder how his intestines taste.

It was more a response that you would come out and say it with no other way for you to back your claim up, outside of simply saying that not stating such a claim would be worse in the long run.

I have a big, firm eye on you for that though. Especially since you were willing to vote me so early.

Again it's supposed to matter that I can't back my claim up on Day 1. Of course I can't, nobody can back anything up on Day 1. He took the reason I provided for my claim (the problem that not stating my miller claim does more damage in the long run), threw it aside, and then acted like my vote for him was suspicious.

Bill Dexhart wrote:

April Ludgate wrote:Here I'll make it simple. I'm either the miller, or I'm a baddie who claimed miller to lure out all the power roles at my own sacrifice. Make up your minds on that and move forward.

That's why I'm waiting for others to respond. Because the second is the kind of badass risk I could see several players on this site trying to make.

At the same time, it's also incredibly risky to pull such a move on Day 1, so I would think the first outcome is most likely.

I would just feel better hearing from more people on the matter before I make my mind up.

Then, only after arguments about why my claim being fake would be stupid, did he turn around and say it'd be "incredibly risky to pull such a move on Day 1". He didn't seem to think it was too risky when he was accusing me.

It all looks disingenuous to me.

Ann Perkins wrote:

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Sure, he hasn't done anything exceptionally scummy in the game, but neither has anyone else.

Have you met Bill?

Would be nice if you presented a case against me, so I can see your POV.

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Sure, he hasn't done anything exceptionally scummy in the game, but neither has anyone else.

Have you met Bill?

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:

Andy Dwyer wrote:Ann, I'm like super bad at math, but like I think Ron only has 24 posts.

What about the point of the post, though? Do you agree or not that Ron has basically made one or two posts. Not much scum hunting, especially when he calls out knopes for something similar in his read of her.

I count nine or ten posts that matter before you said this, not one or two. There is filler, but not nearly as much as you say there is. Ron also made it obvious twice that he had his eye on you, so the No U accusation fits.

What did Andy ever see in you? You're the absolute worst Ann. Go date Jerry.

Ron Swanson wrote:I've read more graceful OMGUSs in my life, but I guess you can't expect much from someone who works in healthcare, where they'll just rip you off for so much as a sneeze.

Andy Dwyer wrote:Ann, I'm like super bad at math, but like I think Ron only has 24 posts.

Andy Dwyer wrote:Ann, I'm like super bad at math, but like I think Ron only has 24 posts.

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm bored and going home, so here are my thoughts till tomorrow.

April's claim still requires a counter, either via night power results that could prove contradictory to the miller setups or via counterclaims from others. I'm inclined to trust her until it bounces, she's proven herself to be a clever girl in the past. Also, while not clear if mafia have contact during the Day (Host?), let's assume they don't, in which case a fake claim from April should mean: a) she's aware of the possible setup and it means she's either the JOAT or the Godfather, the latter which can be easily debunked if the cop checks her and survives; b) she's unaware of the setup and a goon, in which case her bluff is even more blind and foolish. Balls to the walls tactic aside, does this sound like sane mafia gambit to any of you?

Ben seems to be his usual dumbass self, but I cannot say I disliked his prodding initiatives, so far. This concludes my slight townreads for this phase.

I don't like Bill. He used hokey logic to argue that only the mafia would have serious knowledge of the current setup. His contribution to the claim game in regards to April has been utterly banal.

Ann is annoying, what's new. She has pounced on people like April, but was then peachy with other statements, like Bill's. She also called me knowledgeable in killing horses, which is just disgusting.

Knope is underwhelming thus far in solid hunting initiatives.

Andrew has a bold idea on the table, which I'm not sure how I feel about just yet, still I feel the rest of his game so far is sprawling underneath the act. Man up, son.

Chris will prove a tough challenge, if he's rotten, because he's deeper into his roleplay than I can reach inside my cattle during an anal probing.

Jean-Ralphio still proves as useless as the hyphen between his first names. Or the French themselves throught history.

Jerry still didn't show up. If nothing works, let's just lynch Jerry.

If your name doesn't show up above, you've either done nothing to annoy me or nothing to impress me.

Good night and good luck.

Chris Traeger wrote:

Andy Dwyer wrote:and i'm not sure how i feel about chris yet. Sometimes he talks the coolests sentences though

Andy! That is literally the kindest thing you've ever said about me. I really like you too! but I also feel like you are a little bit all over the place. Might I suggest you cut back on processed sugars?

Ron Swanson wrote:Chris will prove a tough challenge, if he's rotten, because he's deeper into his roleplay than I can reach inside my cattle during an anal probing.

I am simultaneously flattered and disgusted. You always keep me on my toes Ron Swanson! Also, I was processing the paperwork for your new position and discovered that you've never been through the Chris Traeger Management Training Seminar yet! I'm so excited for you! You are going to be CTMTSed!

Ann Perkins! I still am really not getting what you were saying in the following post, can you please reword it? I really want to understand your thought processes inside and out since we are spending the rest of our lives together. Also, I love you.

Ann Perkins wrote:Funny how the person who would be willing (and has the know how) to murder a horse, defends the girl who would be willing to murder a horse's claim whose lynch would provide us with invaluable information - 50% chance of which setup we are in. Why would we be inviting town powers to reveal to counter claim, when absolutely no protective exists.

Is there anyone who has not come to work yet today? Or has everyone already clocked in? It's very important to me to stay connected with all the staff member that I oversee.

Leslie, I appreciate your initiative in putting forward the idea of the no lynch option. But I have to disagree. If we don't lynch someone, we simply turn our Day 1 situation into Day 2. And we have let the mafia have a kill without any effort whatsoever to catch one of them. I have to admit that I find you a little suspicious, but keep that energy flowing, I'm loving it!

Bobby Newport! You don't say very much do you? Are you the strong silent type? Or are you hiding some evil schemes for Pawnee?

Andy Dwyer wrote:THEORY TIME

leslie has been kidnapped and this is evil imposter leslie who says a lot of words but id ont' think they mean much.

Chris Traeger wrote: I'll go first. I think that my lovely Ann Perkins suggesting we should lynch April just to confirm the set up we are in seems a little unsavory. She is beautiful and will be a wonderful mother for our baby, but she might also be evil. Isn't this game invigorating!

Bill Dexhart wrote:

Ben Wyatt wrote:And I can say that my role definitely is in both 1 and C.

Ben Wyatt wrote:

Bill Dexhart wrote:

April Ludgate wrote:

Ben Wyatt wrote:Well, now you know that we know that your role claim could easily be faked, you know? The possibility of you being a despicable liar face shouldn't be ignored. It's like in Game of Thrones, when Littlefinger tells Ned Stark that "Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done since you climbed off your horse."

Don't you have some Star Trek fan fiction to be writing or something?

Bill's response to my claim was weird. He acted like I should be able to support my claim other than just saying it. I wonder how his intestines taste.

It was more a response that you would come out and say it with no other way for you to back your claim up, outside of simply saying that not stating such a claim would be worse in the long run.

I have a big, firm eye on you for that though. Especially since you were willing to vote me so early.

If nobody else can say definitively that we aren't in Setup 1 or C, and nobody else comes forward and says, "Hey! I'm the Miller instead of April!", her roleclaim is pretty much proven, and she's a confirmed civilian.

I'm inclined to go innocent until proven guilty on this one.

Bill Dexhart wrote:Why make the claim when you have no way of proving otherwise? I still think a mafia member is the one most likely to make that claim. Especially given they are the only ones who know what the current setup is.

And a vote for me too? Do I get a gold star if I win this electi...oh wait. This isn't an election.

Ron Swanson wrote:

Chris Traeger wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:April's reveal would invite a counter-claimif false, correct? Bit shortsighted for her to pull such a prank on us, but I'll await further development on that.

That's a great point Ron! I wonder though, if it would invite a counter claim if there is not actually a miller in the set up at all? Just considering the possibilities. Isn't this game fun?

If we happen to be outside the 1 or C range, town roles from any other setup would therefore exist to completely invalidate April's claim.

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:But us girls need to stick together.

Halloween has passed. If that part is untrue, should I trust the first part?

Do you like my nails?

Ben Wyatt wrote:

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Hullo how's it going friends

Aren't you paying attention, woman? This is the worst day since Charles Mulligan's Steakhouse was shut down. Show some damn respect!

I can't ask how my friends are doing during this tragedy? Interesting...

Don't try to bond with me.

I'm the miller. If the cop investigates me it'll come back mafia even though I'm town. So, cop... don't investigate me. It's a waste. We can eliminate 6 of the 8 setups in the table, it's either [1] or [C]. The baddies know exactly the setup now. I think it's a good enough trade. People can believe me or not I don't really care. I passed up a gay Halloween party to be here. Do you know how much fun gay Halloween parties are?

So, if anyone checks you, you'll show up as mafia. That's awfully convenient. In fact, you know, theoretically, if I were mafia, that's the exact role that I'd claim to be. Now you have the perfect cover.

Just throwing out some calzones for thought.

April Ludgate wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:

Ron Swanson wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Hullo how's it going friends

Aren't you paying attention, woman? This is the worst day since Charles Mulligan's Steakhouse was shut down. Show some damn respect!

I can't ask how my friends are doing during this tragedy? Interesting...

Don't try to bond with me.

I'm the miller. If the cop investigates me it'll come back mafia even though I'm town. So, cop... don't investigate me. It's a waste. We can eliminate 6 of the 8 setups in the table, it's either [1] or [C]. The baddies know exactly the setup now. I think it's a good enough trade. People can believe me or not I don't really care. I passed up a gay Halloween party to be here. Do you know how much fun gay Halloween parties are?

Ron Swanson wrote:

Ann Perkins wrote:Hullo how's it going friends

Aren't you paying attention, woman? This is the worst day since Charles Mulligan's Steakhouse was shut down. Show some damn respect!