The Syndicate

Diiny wrote:

motel room wrote:So one of the three players he's been going on about (espers, jjj, diiny) have vote manipulation powers? I don't get why he was so adamant there was a scum in there and he never bothered to explain. Are there no town vote manipulation roles?

Unsure when vote manipulation comes into this, am I being completely stupid?

It was seaside's role to see through vote manipulation once, he was town so no reason to make shit up, so must've been the reason he was harping on about the three of them.

But then if Drugs is the sole scum vote manipulator its not a direct link. Can't Drugs drug a guy and vote a different way the next lynch?

So one of the three players he's been going on about (espers, jjj, diiny) have vote manipulation powers? I don't get why he was so adamant there was a scum in there and he never bothered to explain. Are there no town vote manipulation roles?

Alright going back to this

Russtifinko wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:I actually wouldn't be opposed to a seaside lynch if there's time - dude's been acting weird since D1. However, motel room voted for him, and motel room just took a big jump up my suspect list.

I'd definitely be down to try to pull votes onto motel room.

Why?

Mainly, he's throwing out totally unsupported opinions, every so often and saying we should believe them just because.

He was on Rico for days for being bad, and then suddenly N5 he thought Rico was good "despite really wanting you to be scum".

Since D3 he's been saying JJJ, espers, Diiny, and Zebra were bad, for no other reason than that they voted Rico on D3. (He later retracted his suspicion of Zebra upon learning Zebra was a dead civ when he posted this, and he's since back off of also-dead-civ espers.) This post in particular reeks:

seaside wrote:anyway, i reakon there is a strong chance one of those three are scum
i'm not saying those three are my most suspicious (or suspicious at all) but i think 1 of the 3 could be scum

He hasn't offered even a modicum of a case against any of them, but is trying like hell to get people to join him in a lynch just because. He even tried to use JJJ's move away from Mac yesterday to get Diiny.

Today, though, he's all about the easy JJJ lynch. He has precisely one point of evidence: he's been going on about JJJ's Mac connection all day, despite the fact that everyone is perfectly clear on it. I think he's trying to lock up the lynch without making it look like he is. Which actually makes me wonder if my vote should be on Floyd after all. If there has been a save attempt in the thread so far, this is the one. It's just subtle enough that people might miss it, and just unsubstantiated enough that he might be able to laugh it off.

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:motel room for now. Come join! It's a nice big room, and we have free HBO and a continental breakfast.

It isn't free. It's included in the price of the room.

Some economist.

rekt

Linki: Oh wow, big push toward seaside here. Holy cow. That's a bit nerve-wracking.

motel room, my suspicion of Mac arose because he was willing to lynch civs for no good reason. I've suspected people for less. I'll read you in full by tomorrow, but since you won't be lynched today and I'm short on time it's not worth the bother. As it stands now, I consider you a major suspect. I see you voted me for most of the day - what do you find suspicious about me?

Just so its clear, cos I dont think it's clear, your answers to Epi are regarding seaside right? Cos I didn't do any of that stuff but you're talking about both of us in the "Why?" post Epi asked about.

I found you suspicious from the way Mac treated you and how his "suspicions" of you never panned out. That and how you seem to pop in just to drop a vote and then vanish. But now I also have your actions this end of day to read and figure out how I feel.

Oh and Choutas I also had my vote on Russti for most of today and very willing to go back there if anything develops, so grab a macchiato or something.

Russtifinko wrote:I actually wouldn't be opposed to a seaside lynch if there's time - dude's been acting weird since D1. However, motel room voted for him, and motel room just took a big jump up my suspect list.

I'd definitely be down to try to pull votes onto motel room.

I didn't see anything in Floyd's history that makes me really want him dead. I think the scum slip theories are overblown, and beyond that there's just not much there.

You've never even mentioned me before and now you're willing to create a bandwagon against me? How do I fit into the rest of the events and the confirmed scum and the bandwagons? - Go.

Russtifinko wrote:To be more precise: esplain the part where you think JJJ will flip town, but you're happy to remove the doubt by lynching him. I recall Mac saying something very similar, I think about Sorsha. (Would quote, but have you seen that dude's post history?)

Nah you should quote it cos I don't like you dropping into the thread after no content and trying to drum up shit without context.

I'm not sure how I can further explain it. I think JJJ may be town and made the same mistaken judgement on mac as I did. I'm not confident enough to fight his lynch and can see benefit from him as a lynch contender being removed from further chatter. He has even said the same thing himself. Why is me thinking this so suspicious to you, specifically?

Choutas wrote:I'm not twisting shit please point out where do you disagree with me.
Not once have you called me a townie within game. Every single day you've voiced your suspicion about me. How the fuck am I your lynch to go guy and you voted for seaside? I mean seriously what the fuck.

Because I am suspicious of a few players, you included. I've voiced suspicion of seaside too. Maybe I have my vote on him for a reason. And there's still time for anything to happen vote-wise.

So I think you "mean seriously what the fuck" but don't actually mean it cos that's an overreaction.

Russtifinko wrote:

motel room wrote:I'm happy to see JJJ lynched to remove the doubt but I think he did the same thing I did w/r/t mac.

motel room wrote:I actually feel like JJJ and Floyd will flip town.

Please esplain.

Which part? I wont be surprised if they were both town, but I'm not sold so hard as to defend them and they are both potential distractions now at this point and if not lynched now will probably ride on as lynch contenders until the end of the game is all.

Choutas wrote:

motel room wrote:

Choutas wrote:

motel room wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

motel room wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Zzzzzz...

Voting bcornett.

What about the top lynch contenders?

Right back at you.

I wouldn't mind lynching seaside, but I still believe Jay is mafia.

I'm not sure yet who to pick between JJJ and Floyd when push comes to shove but I would much rather lynch seaside.

Removing either of them has its benefits.

MR can you give us your reads? Apparently me, JJJ, floyd and seaside, who else?

linki: worse of two evils? Does that make sense? Do you know their roles or something :o ?

No these are just of the names on the table at the moment. I actually feel like JJJ and Floyd will flip town.

Woah there stranger. So only seaside is a worthwhile lynch? Is that what you're saying? You've labeled me as scum more times than you seaside. Townie points deducted.

Woah nelly yourself. I would vote you, no sweat. My vote is on seaside right now is all. Have a gander at my GTH scum reads too if you're interested in who I'm suspicious of before you start twisting shit.

Choutas wrote:

motel room wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

motel room wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Zzzzzz...

Voting bcornett.

What about the top lynch contenders?

Right back at you.

I wouldn't mind lynching seaside, but I still believe Jay is mafia.

I'm not sure yet who to pick between JJJ and Floyd when push comes to shove but I would much rather lynch seaside.

Removing either of them has its benefits.

MR can you give us your reads? Apparently me, JJJ, floyd and seaside, who else?

linki: worse of two evils? Does that make sense? Do you know their roles or something :o ?

No these are just of the names on the table at the moment. I actually feel like JJJ and Floyd will flip town.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

motel room wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Zzzzzz...

Voting bcornett.

What about the top lynch contenders?

Right back at you.

I wouldn't mind lynching seaside, but I still believe Jay is mafia.

I'm not sure yet who to pick between JJJ and Floyd when push comes to shove but I would much rather lynch seaside.

Removing either of them has its benefits.

DrWilgy wrote:Zzzzzz...

Voting bcornett.

What about the top lynch contenders?

I guess we still have a last second Russtifinko vote to expect again.

seaside

are you still around?

I'm happy to vote seaside or Choutas. I'm happy to see JJJ lynched to remove the doubt but I think he did the same thing I did w/r/t mac. I'm not confident about Floyd because of his lack of content but my gut says he'd flip town.

That's where my head's at just now.

seaside wrote:Is epi doing for jjj, what jjj tried to do 4 Mac yesterday?

Epi and mac went at it pretty hard, this would be you suggesting that they are on the same team. So you tell us, what do you make of this suggestion.

seaside wrote:

Diiny wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I understand players won't read my whole thing on seaside, but I would like responses on the bit with the eyes and the spoiled quote below it.

I don't think seaside, as bad as he looks, had a read on me that was dependant on the scumminess of espers or anything so I'm not understanding how we're divining from his comments an expectance of espers to flip town when he's nk'd. Am I misreading?

My theory is that at least 1 out of you three is scum.
It is possible 4 u both to be though.

I don't see the point in wasting a lynch on someone who was gonna die anyway.

I looked through your posts and your big mega reason for isolating these three names and apparently never considering anyone else seriously was from a vote wagon way back in the game. Why? Have your reads not changed based on further events since then? Is there a role (whether its yours or you want us to think it is) that would make you so narrow minded to only consider these names? Or are you just fixating on something to make you look interested enough to disinvolve you from current shit in the thread?

I do not get it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Diiny also has zero votes today. The wagon on him yesterday looks that much more insincere.

Yes maybe but also remember he was very absent until either late that day or after Mac was lynched from memory.

metalmarsh did you see my question to you about your Russ read?

RadicalFuzz wrote:Also I'm not getting enough flak for suggesting a Chinese fire drill at end of day yesterday. That looks objectively horrible, but I'm a town read across the board in our little experiment. Epi, I believe, was the only one to even mention it.

On who? Wilgy?

Ricochet wrote:

Strawhenge wrote: Ricochet ★★½

bro...

I cannot possibly have the same rating that Fear of Music deserves.

Also, metalmarsh what's the story with your read on Russtifinko?

You voted him Day 1. Had some cases. Said he was bad later still.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:DrWilgy! I have a response for you. These 6 players are bad.

• Devin the Omniscient
  MacDougal
  Russtifinko
  seaside
  Strawhenge
  TheFloyd73

Then he was on your list of Don't Lynch.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Anyway, I'm mafia'd out tonight, but I may peek back in later.

Tomorrow I'll finish my response to your BR ISO, Jay. Then I'll look at your bcornett ISO. Then I'll read the second half of Rico's novel. Just reminding myself what I plan to do here.

Also, my list of Don'tLynches

Bullzeye
Elohcin
JaggedJimmyJay
Matt F
Metalmarsh89
RadicalFuzz
Ricochet
Russtifinko

And now he's bad again in the GTH exercise. I'm trying to figure him out, what's made you change your mind at these points?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

motel room wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Thanks.

Curious that I am almost a unanimous baddie read.

How would you describe you as scum in your own words? Cos you were surprised earlier when someone thought this was you as scum, so if we're talking behaviour what is scum metalmarsh like?

Good question.

Last game I was mafia, I did jackshit the whole game, just teasing people and having fun. A Gentleman's Guide to Mafia

The time before that, after doing shenanigans on Day 1, I was the most vocal scumhunty player in the game (after MP was nightkilled). I wasn't a great "civilian", but I was the most active. Angry Birds Mafia

I was also mafia in Recruitment Mafia, but I was recruited to the mafia team Night 5, and the game doesn't really describe one's "mafia style" like a normal game would. But we still had to eliminate the other mafia team, and we were successful.

Looking back, our teams did win all three of those games, and they happened to be 3 of the last 4 games I've played here.

Dunno if that tells you much. My style in some ways stays consistent, but in some ways changes drastically from game-to-game, and also depending on the game size and location.

So why would you be so surprised that someone might find your play in this game scummy? You don't seem too vocal scumhunty this game, maybe more like your first example, but if you're good at switching masks as scum why act like its confusing why we should think this particular mask is scummy?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Thanks.

Curious that I am almost a unanimous baddie read.

How would you describe you as scum in your own words? Cos you were surprised earlier when someone thought this was you as scum, so if we're talking behaviour what is scum metalmarsh like?

Strawhenge wrote: hard as fuhhhh to read.

you can say fuck. its already in your signature.

RadicalFuzz wrote:I'm headed out, I was thoroughly disgusted by everyone's town reads of me.

You seem town is all. Why does that disgust you?

DrWilgy wrote:

motel room wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MOTEL ROOM

RADICAL FUZZ

RICOCHET

ROXY

cheap and available

good

good

good

all are welcome

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:RUSSTIFINKO

SEASIDE

SIG

STRAWHENGE

THEFLOYD73

bad

bad

good

good

good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MOTEL ROOM

RADICAL FUZZ

RICOCHET

ROXY

cheap and available

good

good

good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FINGERSPLINTS

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY

MATT F

METALMARSH89

good

good

good

bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:DIINY

DRWILGY

ELOHCIN

EPIGNOSIS

good

good

good

good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:BCORNETT24

BLACK ROCK

BULLZEYE

CHOUTAS

good

bad

bad

bad

Present.

In. Keen. Ready.

I could gun to head, yep.

Matt F wrote:Linki - Motel Room, I appreciate you addressing my points, and I will respond to you soon. It's going to be a LOOOOONG day phase and I'm tired at the moment.

What do you think of my read on 3J so far?

I don't know, it took me ages to edit in all the quote tags and junk. I still have a town read on jjj, fingers crossed pretty much. But I am definitely no longer confident enough and will be reading through.

seaside wrote:JJJ strikes me as scum, there is just something bit different in his tone to normal. Combined with my early theory.

If JJJ was scum I'm the lone goat suckered by mac legit, which I'd rather not believe to be true. But also, man you are just phoning this in. Why did you just pick three players to engage with? Where did those three names come from?

Matt F wrote:Switching my vote to motel room for now.

For those of you who don't like to ISO players yourselves, here's some fun times with motel room lovin' him some MacDougall.

motel room wrote:well ok i voted Mac and Dr Wilgy cos whatever I guess

^---Dusk 0 Vote

motel room wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

motel room wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about this MacDougal character.

Seems genuine to me so far. What about him makes you feel otherwise?

His overall hostility requires evaluation. I'm not sure I think he's malevolent, but he's someone I definitely want to watch.

I hope a bit of friendly hostility isn't an alignment indicator over here.

Okey dokey

motel room wrote:Matt F's theory is sketchy and I don't why he's so confident about it.

Mac's theory on epi seems more likely and more based in evidence...

>SNIP<

Mac himself has mostly seemed towny to me, up until he jumped off his Sorsha wagon and started pursuing Matt F over what started as a mild ping or whatever he called it. After that it seemed like mac was in chaos mode and was less about "who is scum" and more about "what can I get away with". But I say "was" because I like how he responded to Matt F's accusation - I read some others are using this as evidence against but I see it as positive evidence.

My theory was sketchy (to be fair, it was) but I'm more interested in "Mac's maybe bad but no but maybe and oh yeah a few days later I will do my damndest to get Strawhenge to save Mac and then say I was trying to get him to slip up" ?!?!

This is going to be me defending myself but basically I'm being as transparent as I can in the post I wrote. I thought Mac was town and the only point where I doubted that was when he switched off the Sorsha wagon he was fighting for to jump on you which didnt feel genuine. But then the way he responded made comfortable again that he was just being fiery rather than seeing what he could get away with. I was wrong.

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:So reading all of this about how Long Con set up this big ol bus seems so far fetched to me. Remembering back to the day he was lynched, he was a contender but not the contender. I'm fairly sure that my return vote on him put him back in the lead and I know I did that from a genuine suspicion of him so I can't really get behind any of these "strategy" scenarios. He may have wanted out and told teammates not to fight it too hard but I really doubt it was a planned bus. My two cents, for the guy who is pretty sure Mac is scum cos of that idea. I still think mac is town.

Second theory in a row that makes Mac look bad that Motel Room says "NOPE NOT HAVIN' IT"

Towards the end of the Day Phase, Motel Room and 3J try their hardest to get Strawhenge to change his vote to save Mac. Later after lynch says he was tryinig to get Strawhenge to "slip up". Bogus. Bogus bogus bogus.

Yes I defended Mac again, and yes I was pressuring Straw to see what he'd do but I dont see how they're related here?

Matt F wrote:Day 2 Lynch Phase (Long Con Lynch)

motel room wrote:in fact yep Long Con for now

motel room wrote:

FZ. wrote:How is it, that not one regular syndicater voted for LC? How is it, that none of the Rym players don't take that into consideration? Are we missing something here?

I think he's suss but that translated into a vote from me because he kept being mentioned as suss back on day 1 but he was never a lynch contender, which is a thing that I feel scum can then point back at their posts and say "i thought he was suss, see". Anyway I had a vote on him for a good portion of today and he hasn't flinched or questioned it or brought it up, not sure what that says. And now he's lead lynchguy, there's even an unexplained vote from Choutas on him (or well, I havent seen him mention his vote in thread).

So like, I dunno are we missing something here?

At this point, has a conversation with Epi about the Long Con lynch. Epi doesn't want to lynch Long Con, motel room asks why, Epi explains, motel room does this...

motel room wrote:Alright, switching to Choutas, hi

What's hilarious about this, is after the lynch period is over, motel room immediately sets his sights on Sorsha (a civilian) and Epignosis...even though he was quite easily swayed by Epignosis to change his vote. motel room just comes off real bad here IMO. But no matter, eventually when people aren't feeling the Choutas lynch, motel room does this before Day 2 ends...

I was swayed by the amount of vouching for Long Con that was coming from the Syndicate camp. It wasn't just Epignosis. It was the reverse of what just happened with RYMers and Mac. So later, I guess the hilarious part?, I was ok with a Sorsha lynch because it was generated by ppl I kinda trusted, and Epi was my own read still. This was after like 3 real life days of not being online also bear in mind.

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:getting back on Long Con for now. Not feeling the bcornett lynch, i believed his post just then I guess. Llama, yeah maybe.

Well, at least he got his vote back on Long Con and can look civvie for it.

I liked him better of the options and figured what the hey to the people vouching for him.

Matt F wrote:Miscellaneous

motel room wrote:

Sorsha wrote:For the sake of putting the "Where did they get that Zebra=keterman" questions to rest, this is the post where Zebra acknowledges his previous names on other sites.... its down in the green text by the coffee cup emoticon:

yeah he outright said it. No one reading these posts? Everyone just skimming for their own name?

This is back when Sorsha pointed out my mistake in thinking Roxy and Zebra were on the baddie team together. What's interesting, is before this, motel room doesn't bother to tell anyone "yeah he outright said it", only waits until a civvie lets people know. It is important to note that motel room does previous say "oh Keterman = RBZ" but never stops me from making accusations at Roxy or RBZ because of it...not until Sorsha does anyway.

This is weak, I dont get this. What are you saying?

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:

Diiny wrote:Not the time, I know, but it's annoying me. What's the floyd's deal? He's posting regularly on OT as far as I can tell so he's not exactly short on time. Even if he was it's in nobody's best interest to post one off topic thing. Probably some stupid gambit.

I get the feeling he's in a bit over his head, our Floyd.

Nice defense of baddie Floyd.

He's new. He's like 16 I think and he's only just discovering that people can be fake and manipulative (judging by a thread he started over in RYM). Forgive me if I don't hammer his balls for saying odd things according to the way we play this. He may well be scum but I've seen new town say things they dont understand the connotations of before in innocence.

How do you know he's scum? Heavy accentuation on the word K N O W.

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:

Strawhenge wrote:The thing about Sorsha is the second most pingy one. He was asked directly by another player, and gave a really dodgy response.

truthfact

Lookie there, teamies Strawhenge and motel room bullying poor innocent Sorsha (AGAIN TO BE FAIR I VOTED SORSHA LIKE HALF THE GAME)

motel room wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

motel room wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Guys, my vote is all alone at the bottom of the poll.

why were you keen on a Straw vote? I may have missed it.

It's an OMGUS vote.

might be why its all alone then.

Defending teamie Strawhenge

Not a teammate. Trying to challenge a potential weak lynch attempt by metalmarsh.

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:

TheFloyd73 wrote:

motel room wrote:

TheFloyd73 wrote:My first lack of inclusion was genuinely from stuff going on in my life that was messing with my head. And I will say AGAIN that if you wish to discuss this further, please PM me.

Has anyone PMed you?

No, not about that topic anyway. would you like to be the first?

Oh ok, like just from teammates?

I hope your head's ok now man.

Doesn't pursue this at all. Says later he "felt bad".



I don't like this.

Already answered on Floyd. And here's a thing, but you can try and paint it as defence of a teammate or whatever you want but I got a PM from Roxy, non-game related, about some interrogation room thing for this site. Now I don't believe people on the internet are real so I rarely engage but perhaps Floyd did?

Or perhaps not, maybe he's a scum that slipped. I don't know because I'm not in a position to know.

Strawhenge wrote:You did fine. What's wrong with that post?

Have you seen Caddyshack? There's a scene where Rodney Dangerfield is driving his yacht all crazy and mowing down rich folk in smaller boats and one guy looks over, looks away, then does a double look with his eyes all HUGE before jumping into the water seconds before his boat gets crushed. This reads like you're acting that guy's scene out for office colleagues in the kitchenette, in that it feels like you're describing your confusion over the top.

At least I'm pretty sure that's Caddyshack.

And on that flowery post I'm out for a bit. Work's over.

Strawhenge wrote:And Matt, I see where you're coming from, wert scummy behavior. If I were you I'd think the same thing. Pretty much, whether for nefarious reasons or not, Jay and mo-ro put me in a rough posish.

Linki mo-ro: Alright, that answered my question. Thanks.

Great. Now how did I do under your pressuring right then?

Cos I'm less than impressed with this blubbering post here and it's oscar-worthy spit-take

Strawhenge wrote:Wai-wai-wait, so you just wanted me to make a mistake? Why?

You're not making any sense to me right now.

brb work or something

Strawhenge wrote:You're dodging the question. What mistake did you want me to make, and if you didn't have a specific mistake, why did you want me to make a mistake?

Are you kidding mate? Because I thought you were staying away from the lynch intentionally. Because I wanted to force your hand and if you were scum you would already know how the lynches would result so would have to think about how you would appear on the other side and could then read that in your nervousness or your gung-ho-ness or your indecision or your misdirection. You stood your ground and did nothing. You didn't disappear from the thread, I think that's a good thing. You made some leaps in logic, like Matt pointed out, I think that's bad.

The only thing I wasn't counting on was Mac being scum. That screwed with my read.

Strawhenge wrote:Wai-wai-wait, so you just wanted me to make a mistake? Why?

You're not making any sense to me right now.

brb work or something

Dont overuse the not-confident\being confused card. That's why anyone pressures anyone. So we can read how they reacted.

Strawhenge wrote:

motel room wrote:

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:

Matt F wrote:G2H on full Mafia team (assuming there are 5 left)...

Strawhenge
Floyd
Motel Room
MetalMarsh
JJJ

how does that work when we were pressuring Strawhenge to slip up?

Wait WHAT? What does this sentence mean? I thought you and Jay were simply trying to get Straw to save Mac. What do you mean you and Jay were trying to get him to "slip up" ? I'm not following.

No, I can't speak for jjj but all I wanted was to get him to move his vote from "nowhere" to "somewhere" (either Diiny or Mac). The pressure was because if he were scum being all safe over on metalmarsh he might do something he'd regret under pressure, so when he did nothing the safe option I was all ready to finger point.

This doesn't explain why you used the phrase 'slip up.' That denotes you were trying to make me make a mistake.

Which is, you know...

Spoiler: show

Well yeah. From the perspective of you being safe-voting-scum, if there was a mistake for you to make I wanted you to either make it or overthink so hard that you made it anyway.

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:

Matt F wrote:G2H on full Mafia team (assuming there are 5 left)...

Strawhenge
Floyd
Motel Room
MetalMarsh
JJJ

how does that work when we were pressuring Strawhenge to slip up?

Wait WHAT? What does this sentence mean? I thought you and Jay were simply trying to get Straw to save Mac. What do you mean you and Jay were trying to get him to "slip up" ? I'm not following.

No, I can't speak for jjj but all I wanted was to get him to move his vote from "nowhere" to "somewhere" (either Diiny or Mac). The pressure was because if he were scum being all safe over on metalmarsh he might do something he'd regret under pressure, so when he did nothing the safe option I was all ready to finger point.

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:

Matt F wrote:G2H on full Mafia team (assuming there are 5 left)...

Strawhenge
Floyd
Motel Room
MetalMarsh
JJJ

how does that work when we were pressuring Strawhenge to slip up?

Well, 3J said that Mac was one of his strongest town reads because it was MacD who originally went after Long Con for his Bea gambit.

Anything is possible.

I think it's more likely that you and Straw are Floyd's teammates, however, I'm not ruling JJJ out.

You're right anything is possible. I'm not in there though.

How are you so certain about Floyd?

Matt F wrote:G2H on full Mafia team (assuming there are 5 left)...

Strawhenge
Floyd
Motel Room
MetalMarsh
JJJ

how does that work when we were pressuring Strawhenge to slip up?

Matt F wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

TheFloyd73 wrote:Also, Strawhenge, I find it amusing that we're rivals on here but kinda friendly on RYM.

What. The. Fuck.

How do you know you are rivals?

Does a WTF to Floyd, but rest of game wants people to back off of him. Also, since MacD was scum himself, you'd think he'd use this post of Floyd's to completely go after him. Afterwards, he could simply say "Well you saw what he said about being rivals!!" But no, doesn't go after him.

Other people who have lightly questioned Floyd for his MULTIPLE scum slips in the game but never went after him:

Strawhenge
Motel Room

i did that thing about asking about his PMs and he fell for it but every time I try and do a trap like that in RYM I only get townies who just didnt get what i was insinuating. Also I felt bad after.

RadicalFuzz wrote:Who is "keej/mojiki?" motel?

me. I'm "aokiji" over in RYM but wanted a change.

Matt F wrote:

motel room wrote:

Matt F wrote:Later Mac! I'm going to miss the penis jokes

JJJ - I enjoy the way you play, and whether you are civ or scum, hope you continue to play as you want. If the rest of the players can't keep up, personally I believe that's on them.

JJJ - What are your thoughts on Strawhenge and Motel Room? This post during the frantic end of night phase pinged the shit out of me...

Strawhenge wrote:Jay, keej, it's quite noble that you're trying to save your scumbuddy right now, but I'm not buying it.

So check it out. Strawhenge doesn't want to vote for Diiny or Mac because he doesn't have a strong read on either, and yet he is going to accuse a few players of trying to get him to save their "scum buddy". If Straw really wasn't "buying it", and thought you all were trying to get him to save your "scum buddy", then why didn't he simply vote for Mac?



Btw, anyone besides JJJ, including Strawhenge, can tell me what you think about this.

I was ready to bring down wrath for not voting someone because I feel like staying away from potential trouble is scum m.o. but I was expecting mac to flip town and so now i think Straw, if he were scum, could've made something of the situation by voting either of them really. Diiny to potentially save mac and wear the shame with rest of us if mac died in the 50/50, or voted mac and got some glory.
Am I misreading?

I think he avoided voting for either because...

a) If he voted Diiny but Mac was lynched, that looks bad.

b) If he voted Mac and Mac was lynched, people could say "Well that's interesting that you finally voted Mac last minute".

I personally believe him sticking with his vote was perfect. However, what I'm questioning, is why he would call Mac a scum by accusing you and Jay of trying to save your "scum buddy", but not vote for him. That makes ZERO sense. If he thought Mac was your scum buddy, then why not vote for him over Diiny? Why?

In his ratings at the time he felt that Diiny was scummier than mac too, so I'll def agree there's very little logic here.

Matt F wrote:Later Mac! I'm going to miss the penis jokes

JJJ - I enjoy the way you play, and whether you are civ or scum, hope you continue to play as you want. If the rest of the players can't keep up, personally I believe that's on them.

JJJ - What are your thoughts on Strawhenge and Motel Room? This post during the frantic end of night phase pinged the shit out of me...

Strawhenge wrote:Jay, keej, it's quite noble that you're trying to save your scumbuddy right now, but I'm not buying it.

So check it out. Strawhenge doesn't want to vote for Diiny or Mac because he doesn't have a strong read on either, and yet he is going to accuse a few players of trying to get him to save their "scum buddy". If Straw really wasn't "buying it", and thought you all were trying to get him to save your "scum buddy", then why didn't he simply vote for Mac?



Btw, anyone besides JJJ, including Strawhenge, can tell me what you think about this.

I was ready to bring down wrath for not voting someone because I feel like staying away from potential trouble is scum m.o. but I was expecting mac to flip town and so now i think Straw, if he were scum, could've made something of the situation by voting either of them really. Diiny to potentially save mac and wear the shame with rest of us if mac died in the 50/50, or voted mac and got some glory.
Am I misreading?