The Syndicate

oh and voting Choutas

grabbing a coffee, dealing with monday morning waste of time catch up meetings, and reading through what ive missed over the weekend.

Epignosis wrote:

motel room wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Not surprised with any of that.

Two SK kills, no nightkill?

You heard me.

still don't how to feel about this.

RadicalFuzz wrote:Also a post got eaten. I agree that drawing the immediate conclusion of "that extra tab increases the likelihood that he is Mafia" is illogical. I have a tab on the first page of any game I'm actively posting in. At the moment I also have two open for the sock game that recently concluded as well. Tab count, similar to post count, does not a Mafia make.

Motel, he already did. He was penalized for non-participation, and in the rules it states that players in that category can't win the game.

Ahh I see.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Yes I did.

I PM'd the hosts about it, and the benevolent sockfaces said that since it was unavoidable and I gave prior warning to my absence, my non-participation will not be counted as such.

So if my alignment wins, I will still win.

Righty-o.

That kinda brings up a cultural diff I've noticed. Over here you guys pile all kinds of info into your posts so they're these massive walls that fire reads and replies everywhere, where as (not always though) in RYM i feel like if someone puts two separate cases or points in a single post I'm suspicious of them because I feel like they're trying to slip a fake one through with a good one or that there's some kind of misdirection going down. Give a real thought its due and give it its own space to breathe.

To culture -

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Wait, can I even win this game?

Did you explain what prompted this? cos it has to have been posted for a reason.

haha

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Who should we make dead, aokiji?

espers or epi.
To a slightly lesser extent, Diiny or Devin.

You asked before about roxy, fingersplints and black rock? I might make it my business, fluffing around at work this Fri arvo, to figure out what the difference between them is cos I have no reads there at all.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

motel room wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Guys, my vote is all alone at the bottom of the poll.

why were you keen on a Straw vote? I may have missed it.

It's an OMGUS vote.

might be why its all alone then.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Guys, my vote is all alone at the bottom of the poll.

why were you keen on a Straw vote? I may have missed it.

MacDougall wrote:linki: please remind me I cannot remember that

#60
https://rateyourmusic.com/board_message ... msg5004603
always makes me laugh.

MacDougall wrote:I can assure you that "chaos posting" was a result of the fact that I was losing interest without having people engaging me thinking I was scum. It was boring me.

I just always remember chaos mac in Sloonei's pirate game where you tried to get everyone to lynch the mod and then announced your nightkill in the thread and declared it the next day. that was a fun game lol.

Separately, voting espers for now.

ok after the whole Sorsha vs Devin thing from Day 4 and all the lynch-lining up that was discussed, there's a shitload less Devin being talked about now

what else has been going on?

This site is so much more an obvious non-work forum when I'm trying to post things at work and there's a bunch of smilies gyrating over there

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

The order i would lynch them is espers > diiny > jjj. I'm reading jjj as jenuine atm.

Please expand.

The level that Diiny has slipped to, I feel like espers has been there all game. He's a total unknown quantity to me and that worries me so at the time I would have been cooler with an espers lynch than a Diiny lynch.

However, that non-vote Diiny put in at the end of the last Day that was so off-bandwagon that it was blinding probably puts him over espers atm if I were to rewrite that order.

And you're streets behind those two.

Matt F's theory is sketchy and I don't why he's so confident about it.

Mac's theory on epi seems more likely and more based in evidence but still just a theory. I'm not comfortable with epi - the Syndicaters are defending his style still but when he was under some attention earlier he came out and did just enough leg work to let it blow over and has returned to sitting pretty. Dunno about the SK but I have no probs voting epi.

Mac himself has mostly seemed towny to me, up until he jumped off his Sorsha wagon and started pursuing Matt F over what started as a mild ping or whatever he called it. After that it seemed like mac was in chaos mode and was less about "who is scum" and more about "what can I get away with". But I say "was" because I like how he responded to Matt F's accusation - I read some others are using this as evidence against but I see it as positive evidence.

One thing I may have missed in catch up - mac, why though are you less concerned with Matt? He's not even in your top 6 thingy atm.

Epignosis wrote:Not surprised with any of that.

Two SK kills, no nightkill?

top shelf, that

Bullzeye wrote:

motel room wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

motel room wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:So can anyone else see the possible save attempt? Thinking we'll find baddies among the Sorsha voters for sure, especially if Devin was their endangered teammate. Probably going to vote Devin tomorrow. Espers and Russti also have my eye.

Who is saving who in this scenario? Devin was always behind the major Sorsha bandwagon, so what do you mean how do you see it?

Toward the end, as Devin started to catch Sorsha up and looked like he might be in danger, Sorsha started to gain even more votes in order to keep her ahead.

Ok fair. But yeah it only works if Devin is scum which maybe not.

Well, yeah. Hence my description of a save attempt as "possible" and not "definite". I already thought he could be, and then someone else I suspect (Russ) broke a tie to save Devin and lynch Sorsha. You can see why I'd find that concerning, no?

Yeah I get what you're saying now.

MacDougall wrote:

motel room wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

motel room wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:So can anyone else see the possible save attempt? Thinking we'll find baddies among the Sorsha voters for sure, especially if Devin was their endangered teammate. Probably going to vote Devin tomorrow. Espers and Russti also have my eye.

Who is saving who in this scenario? Devin was always behind the major Sorsha bandwagon, so what do you mean how do you see it?

Toward the end, as Devin started to catch Sorsha up and looked like he might be in danger, Sorsha started to gain even more votes in order to keep her ahead.

Ok fair. But yeah it only works if Devin is scum which maybe not.

So to summarise, Devin may or may not be scum.

Thanks for playing.

hi mac i'm selling these fine leather jackets.

Bullzeye wrote:

motel room wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:So can anyone else see the possible save attempt? Thinking we'll find baddies among the Sorsha voters for sure, especially if Devin was their endangered teammate. Probably going to vote Devin tomorrow. Espers and Russti also have my eye.

Who is saving who in this scenario? Devin was always behind the major Sorsha bandwagon, so what do you mean how do you see it?

Toward the end, as Devin started to catch Sorsha up and looked like he might be in danger, Sorsha started to gain even more votes in order to keep her ahead.

Ok fair. But yeah it only works if Devin is scum which maybe not.

Bullzeye wrote:So can anyone else see the possible save attempt? Thinking we'll find baddies among the Sorsha voters for sure, especially if Devin was their endangered teammate. Probably going to vote Devin tomorrow. Espers and Russti also have my eye.

Who is saving who in this scenario? Devin was always behind the major Sorsha bandwagon, so what do you mean how do you see it?

Diiny wrote:yeah, this isn't informed but I don't want to get penalised. Golden because he's obviously scum guys

off the grid

espers wrote:

motel room wrote:

espers wrote:hello. voted aokiji/motel room and Long Con.

this has been nagging me a bit. espers, why did you vote me here for CEO or whatever it was way back at the start?

do you have any theory about what the reason was?

linki @bullzeye: i was thinking of br and epi.

I think if you are town it was random-ish and if you're scum then it was to look random-ish. I don't know why you would pick me in particular and then with the Long Con flip i've had an issue with it.

But turning it back to me to answer isnt an answer.

MacDougall wrote:

motel room wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.

I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.

I switched to MattF to get a reaction out of him mate. Sorsha looks safely lynched so I'm pretty much free to throw my vote around to scare scum.

Unvote MattF, vote motel room.

See.

Sorsha isnt safely lynched anymore btw.

MacDougall wrote:

motel room wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.

I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.

I switched to MattF to get a reaction out of him mate. Sorsha looks safely lynched so I'm pretty much free to throw my vote around to scare scum.

Unvote MattF, vote motel room.

See.

Well like

Now you're just hopping to muddy your intentions even further. Do you think Sorsha is scum or not?

MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.

I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.

seaside wrote:What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

The order i would lynch them is espers > diiny > jjj. I'm reading jjj as jenuine atm.

Matt F wrote:

Roxy wrote:No.

Its not that I dont like you you its that you blatted on about me poss having illegal BTSC by PM during an ongoing game that has upset me most and made me not really want to play.

Dude, I'm sorry you feel that way, but you are the only one. I never intended to mean that you had illegal btsc. I even posted this earlier, which you never responded to...

Matt F wrote:

Roxy wrote:I do read the thread and will honestly say when I don't. I just proved that *you* do *not* read the thread like you claim to in your latest post to MacD. I know what you posted but it was still inferring illegal BTSC which I do not like the insinuation.

This right here is precisely why I continue to get pings from you despite my initial suspicion being invalidated. You continue to make shit up to make me look bad.

Roxy, let me clear this up.

I was DEFENDING you (from myself, admittedly) when I said "Maybe Rbz PM'd Roxy to talk about old Piano days." Furthermore, I was NOT inferring illegal BTSC. Is it ILLEGAL to PM an old friend from a different message board even if you two are playing a game together? I don't think so! I don't think anyone else thinks so, either. So, like I said to you before, in fact I'll just quote what I told you before...

Matt F wrote:If you are civvie, you need to stop making stuff up like that.

Again, I was not inferring that you had illegal BTSC. I do not think it is considered illegal to Private Message an old friend, even if you are playing in a game with them. If I am wrong on that count, my apologies, I did not realize, but I do not think I am wrong.

Roxy - I know in the past we've had these little battles, but I do think you're swell.

If you are really unhappy with my play after seeing this post, let's take it to PM with SVS or MP.

How long has this misunderstanding gone on between you guys? Feels like before my weekend at least. Cos it's a lot of banter but not exactly progressing anything. Linking you guys in a "friendly" way that there's no way scum would make connections that obvious right

espers wrote:hello. voted aokiji/motel room and Long Con.

this has been nagging me a bit. espers, why did you vote me here for CEO or whatever it was way back at the start?

still reading through but i'm putting a vote on Sorsha so that I can see where the votes currently are cos otherwise it's just radio buttons.

Matt F wrote:Choutas - I see on Day 2, Choutas was the first to vote for Long Con on the day he was lynched. It's late and I have 20+ players left to go...based on this, overall gut check - CIVVIE

He was actually the second, behind me but I swapped off Long Con for a bit. It was an unexplained vote too which I'm still curious about although its so far in the past i might be beating-off a dead horse. Just want to know if it makes a difference to your read at all?

hello i'm alive. Had a three day weekend hanging out with my brother and many-a-

I was writing up a three scenario liklihood ranking in my opinion for Long Con\Bea just then and as I typed this I realised it made no sense --
"Long Con (scum) playfully voted Bea (scum) and backpedalled from pressure"

so it's down to only

Long Con (scum) voted Bea (town) and backpedalled from pressure > Long Con (scum) playfully voted Bea (scum) and "backpedalled" from pressure so that he would be a lynch target in a scum designed gambit.

Golden wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:My case on LC was 100% correct

So it was. Imagine that!

sarcasm ejaculation.

Strawhenge wrote:The thing about Sorsha is the second most pingy one. He was asked directly by another player, and gave a really dodgy response.

truthfact

oh ok. we have a bit of that over in RYM but its unreliable so it never holds water.

Matt F wrote:

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:17 fucking guests lmao

LOL

One of those might be me. Are hidden members counted as guests?

Why would you go hidden?

I noticed jay had that setting too, pretty sure.

Golden wrote:Wait for the RM regulars to come in they will know me for what I am.

what's RM?

Long Con
8
Choutas (12), sig (16), seaside (17), DrWilgy (18), motel room (31), bcornett24 (32), JaggedJimmyJay (34), Russtifinko (35) 21%

I still want to hear why Choutas voted Long Con.
I think sig was genuine and worked this case.
If it wasnt weekend time I would check the circumstances of seaside's vote.
I can read an entire post by DrWilgy and somehow not register.
I'm a top bloke.
bcornett was saving himself so he's town - he could've gone with llama that hadn't lost steam yet i dont think, why bus LC when he has the "saving himself" get out of jail vote.
JJJ will be discussed a fair bit I guess.
Russtifinko just came out of nowhere an plopped a vote on huh.

Golden wrote:I encourage that today, there are only two lynch candidates on the table.

One is me, one is Jay. Vote with your feet. Jay for you think it was a bus. Me for you think Jay is a town hero.

why are you suggesting we narrow our focus?

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:For those not convinced, this might help:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: The most important thing is this I think: I enacted this strategy while under zero pressure personally. I had no need to escape any manner of pressure or redirect attention -- I just came up with an idea and went for it.

Out of everything that JJJ had to say with the reveal post of his, why is the most important thing the thing that defends his town position? Not the reads, not the lynch, it is the fact that he wants everyone to think that he is town that is most important.

i think he's just a bit proud of himself.

ok.

These two trying to save Long Con were the dodgiest to me, from my interactions --

Epignosis wrote:

motel room wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Again, five votes from people who don't know Long Con and aren't from around here.

This is starting to look cliquish.

Commentary. "cliquish" isnt game related. Is it a bad lynch?

I don't like it, so I'd say yes, it's a bad lynch. You catch a Long Con through petty things he does that he himself isn't aware that he's doing, not through calling him out Day 1 by pretending to set up bea to garner reactions.

Another stupid lynch, I say.

Sorsha wrote:

motel room wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

motel room wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

motel room wrote:Alright, switching to Choutas, hi

Based on what?

I want to know why he voted long con and a reaction. And i'll be here from now til end of day so my vote is my weapon.

But you were sus of LC too right? So you changed your vote once Choutas voted for the same player as you? Why?

Yeah I still am and might switch back but I can't ignore the amount of players outright vouching for him.

Look who it is though... people who actually know him. And look at who is voting for him... people who don't know him.

Gonna drop a vote on Epi before the weekend hits and birthdays and brother-in-town and beers distract me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:~~~

The most important thing is this I think: I enacted this strategy while under zero pressure personally. I had no need to escape any manner of pressure or redirect attention -- I just came up with an idea and went for it.

this is true. You weren't a lynch contender until you did this to yourself. Interesting.

I'm not sure if this is a statement against me, for me, or neither, but I guess it's true.

its neutral-positive.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:~~~

The most important thing is this I think: I enacted this strategy while under zero pressure personally. I had no need to escape any manner of pressure or redirect attention -- I just came up with an idea and went for it.

this is true. You weren't a lynch contender until you did this to yourself. Interesting.

haha i sort of like having to go back to the first post to use as an index when someone gets lynched.

6 mins left and its at 6-6 llama v long con

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

Golden wrote:I'm completely willing to help flip this lynch to JJJ. I don't trust him in the least. Anyone else on board?

considering

Cool! What do you think of my most recent contributions, aokiji?

i think you're leaning into that wifom that people cant help but double-think.

Are you being this guy right now to benefit town or to screw with us\your meta?

I hope it'll benefit town. The intentions are honest at least.

what are the intentions?

getting back on Long Con for now. Not feeling the bcornett lynch, i believed his post just then I guess. Llama, yeah maybe.