The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:06 pm Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I am so entirely down with this plan.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:06 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:04 pm FWIW I will of course adjust Alison’s wolf equity in my head up slightly but only based on the universal increase that occurs when a VT is yeeted.

It’s not like Alison caused the lynch to happen. The people who voted for Fingers were entirely people who were widely townread and not voting for her.

So anyone pushing the narrative that since we had a town flip, we must kill Alison should be treated with much suspicion.
If you disagree with this and are voting Alison tell us who the wolves are on the fingers wagon.

Spoken like someone who is acutely aware the Fingersplints wagon was nearly entirely pure lol.

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."

I've played this game before. I know how it ends already lol.

So Alison was scum and it was probably with Roxy and/or Kate. She reevaluated on Jack at EOD to make it look like it was Jack, but it was Roxy all along. Baudib is probably still a patsy town, as is obviously Lucy. Some nerd like Sig is mafia and then probably something derpy like Falcon.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:07 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:06 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:04 pm FWIW I will of course adjust Alison’s wolf equity in my head up slightly but only based on the universal increase that occurs when a VT is yeeted.

It’s not like Alison caused the lynch to happen. The people who voted for Fingers were entirely people who were widely townread and not voting for her.

So anyone pushing the narrative that since we had a town flip, we must kill Alison should be treated with much suspicion.
If you disagree with this and are voting Alison tell us who the wolves are on the fingers wagon.
Spoken like someone who is acutely aware the Fingersplints wagon was nearly entirely pure lol.
The game stats is essentially exactly the same except we have one fewer town.

I’m not sure why you think this should flip out worldviews.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:09 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."
I've played this game before. I know how it ends already lol.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:10 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:06 pm Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
How about sheeping my legacy if you're going to do that

Sure what is it

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:10 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."
MacDougall’s self-doubt started creeping in after the flip.

No it's because I'm mafia and by doing this I get to bury town Alison but in the exact way she expects me to do so as town, so I get to kill her for free. It's a real dream come true.

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."
There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.

I think the proposed strategy is logical.

See what I mean? She's letting me kill her for free. I'm not even one of the people outed. It's beautiful.

Does anyone have the final poll?

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:15 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:10 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:06 pm Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
If alison is mafia im adding neon to this

If shes town neon is still cool
Seanzie too despite my townread on him and neon

If alison is mafia this will be rly spicy and lots of fun to solve

If shes town it will be a standard game, so im hoping mafia for more fun lol

Ya know whether she flips mafia or not, most of the same people are outed. Weird how logic works sometimes lol.

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:16 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."
There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.

I think the proposed strategy is logical.
If you're sure

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:15 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
If you had wagoned Roxy the game would already be over

Roxy pocketed me with the sick sig shade.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:18 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:11 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:10 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:06 pm Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
How about sheeping my legacy if you're going to do that
Sure what is it
Roxy > Neon > Creature in that order, probably Sig after (not as high confidence on him but he's an honorary wolf if town so who cares).

I think Jack less likely to be wolf than all these, but you are welcome to policy him for inting if he keeps making dramatically bad reads.

Jesus christ lol

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:15 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.

Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.

Tutuu was like my strongest townread butthead.

I am pretty sure Alison is mafia and is spewing Jack town so hard that it's designed to make us think she's reevaluated off of him as a partner. That is the level to which Mac thinks. It's tiring being me.

The correct thing for me to have done day 1 would have been to yolo vote out Alison tbh.

Because we're partners and I'd have been allowed to endgame gifposting fart gifs obviously. Now I have to be held accountable when she flips mafia and deal with the tinfoil of the town such as *reads notes* Falcon and Seanzie.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:23 pm Alright who can be added to the town bin?

I have:

lucy
baudib1
tutuu

I am really vibing with spf

I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town

Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh

WHY DON'T YOU TOWNREAD ME ANYMORE YOU WERE TOWNREADING ME

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:26 pm i really hope that a wolf did that.

I am not sure this is a real thought.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:28 pm @lucy -

i think it's possible that this might be the same situation as d3 in da bois invitational but this time alison is you

and im in the same position too, but lacking confidence to assert the position on the chance that im wrong

do you get what im saying?

Knew it, ur fucken mafia.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:30 pm You guys should policy Mac if he doesn't produce pelts soon by the way since he's wrong on both fingersplints and me which is pretty out of form for him.

Shit I need to bus someone. Um, ah. Fuck um.

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

I have decided I am not playing this day. See you day 3.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:04 pm I saw Mac and Jack eating a shortstack of flapjacks in wolf chat so we kill that.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

you did what?

The Tower - Sudden Change, Chaos, Upheaval, Revelation, Awakening. This card may only be used once in the game. The player who draws this card may choose to randomize all night targets.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:04 pm Howdy ladies and theys

I read the first two pages. Can someone give me the tl;dr of what happened and who should I iso?

Hello Sabi.

Day 1 came down to a tvt between Alison and Fingersplints. Alison's main suspects were Roxy and Kate ie. you. Fingersplints largely got pushed to a counterwagon of Alison by me and SPF. I thoughy FS was very wolfy and also slanky.

Neon seems to have been randomly killed due to the tower.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:04 pm I saw Mac and Jack eating a shortstack of flapjacks in wolf chat so we kill that.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine
you did what?
I saw Mac and Jack eating a shortstack of flapjacks in wolf chat so we kill that.

Well this is an out and out lie

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:04 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:54 pm SPF:
The other wagons most of D1 were me and Creature and there was incredibly strong resistance to voting anyone else until Mac voted for Splints.
See, I actually liked Mac's reasoning on fingers slot, and was starting to TR him more and more...

And then he posted that he finds me scummy as I do not have a rational approach to the game...I'm paraphrasing, but that's the gist.

And that's fuxkin ridiculous, nobody ever TRs me for being a rational player. Total BS, and there's more than 1 player currently alive who can attest to this fact

I am awfully confused why you are flagrantly misrepresenting my read on you

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:06 pm if creature roxy sig and jack contains more than one villager then this game is probably a loss

this is nonsense

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:23 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:16 pm Hello everyone.

EoD seemed like a clusterfuck.

Splints was a bad wagon, there was literally no data to gain from that last min wagon.
Wrong. Splints was a perfectly cromulent wagon. Allison was a bad wagon.
Dude, fingers was def LHF. Fo sho.

Alison was not LHF, but I wonder...did wolves push the wagon and then flip their Moon, or did town do the heavy lifting and scum sat and Mooned?

you literally just said you liked my reasons for suspecting her

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:06 pm if creature roxy sig and jack contains more than one villager then this game is probably a loss
this is nonsense
why

it's blatantly untrue that town can't win unless all 3 are mafia and there's no reason to feel that way much less say it

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:34 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:29 pm i am oracle, i have no idea why i'm facing so much opposition, what do you guys think about me being openly opposed and not listened to?

is it towny? is it scummy? what purpose does it serve?
Yeah the amazing Alison-endorsed baudib1-endorsed Creature-endorsed lucy-endorsed wagon on Roxy has been repeatedly neglected for two days now.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

Noting that the Baudib creature lucy endorsed roxy wagon has Mac and Dennis voting for it and nobody else.

Creature
roxy
sig
jack

have to be 3 of 4 mafia for town to win?

please explain how this is a valid thought?

Alison's legacy on these 4 is 2 town, 1 null, 1 wolf btw.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:34 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:06 pm if creature roxy sig and jack contains more than one villager then this game is probably a loss
this is nonsense
why
it's blatantly untrue that town can't win unless all 3 are mafia and there's no reason to feel that way much less say it
your perception of the gamestate is very different from mine if you think that but okay

explain how it's true please

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:51 pm Here have some reads from one of my alters lol.

Alison (she/her) - I have tinfoil but both my head and my gut say she is town in this game. There are just too many question marks I have towards basically all of her voters/detractors. Her play in and of itself has been kind of null for her so my read on her is mostly a read based on her treatment not her play.

Baudib1 (he/him) - Quite different. My feeling towards Baudib has been that I've largely agreed with most of everything he's said. His play has been a beacon of towniness. But when I do preflip wagonomics with my reads (yes, a bad idea), there is a lot more credibility for those who've been pushing him, than those who have been pushing Alison. It is quite possible that Baudib is a deepwolf who townsides as this is the first time I've played with him. Which would mean that he's shielding town (Creature, Alison) with TMI and the Alison pushers are actually working overtime to stop him from dying in spite of this. This is a bit far fetched. I do townread him and I think he believes his posts.

Bereft (he/him) - Seanzie has the right of it when he says bereft has kind of flown under the radar. They do seem to be appearing on the right side of matters, but they haven't really been a force in the game at all. I really didn't like the way they justified their Fingersplints vote.

Creature (he/him) - He's continued to have direct and confident reads which has been the basis for SPF's meta based scumread. The most recent was the "Baudib wagon is trash" read. Maybe there is something there. Baudib shielded Creature in a way that I did not like. I don't really understand anything Creature is doing in this game.

Dennis (he/him) - Continues to just feel like an island boy, just tryna make it.

DrWilgy (he/him) - Yes, it troubles me that his focus points have been misaligned to mine. Yes, his reads have felt wolfsiding. But the way he has reacted to me has been towny. Wilgy's frustration is palpable. He has town entitlement.

falcon45ca (he/him) - I do not really vibe with any of Falcon's reads. I have humoured him as town for some level 1 reasons, but upon reflection Falcon is more than capable of doing the things I've been townpinged on as mafia. It's mostly just been the moments where he has been aggressive in defending his perspectives, but really those moments have been kinda basic. What I usually like to look for from Falcon is ... rational behaviour. He doesn't post much, and as town he's just like ... pretty standard town. He catches a lot of flak for being sort of slanky as town, but there's never really any basis for it. I'm not really seeing town Falcon.

fingersplints (she/her) - I am very sure this is a hit. I reread their ISO several times. None of their reads feel real. They haven't explained any of their reads. They are townreading most of the sussiest slots in the game.

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) - I really don't know. I don't agree with anything he's said really. I cannot make sense of him. He feels like he has to be mafia if Baudib and Alison are town? But ... what is the actual gameplan as mafia in just furiously pushing Alison?

Kate (she/her) - I don't really think Kate has been towny but I also kinda just gut townread her. There is a sincerity to the way they have self read themselves as town in this game. I can't really say anything substantial aside from this.

lucy (she/her) - Probably just the real Oracle. Lucy is being treated poorly in this game by at least a few town (and probably all of the mafia).

MacDougall (he/him) - A very obvious mafia. Should be wagoned.

Neon (she/her) - I have summarised how I feel this Neon differs from usual town Neon. I didn't actually answer her when she asked whether I think that this newfound confidence might stem from her doing well in an MU game because it feels like ... well no it shouldn't but I guess it can? I think she is town now though. Just ... it's also that I don't. *sigh*

Porscha (she/her) - Will need scrutiny day 2. The conversation about Porscha being polarised hasn't really been had, and that's probably a good thing cuz I'm sick of having it every single god damn day 1. Porscha will become obvious on day 2 imo. They have set a day 1 benchmark that they will drop off from if they are mafia, and leap forward from if they are town. So if I die, do keep an eye on that. It's all about the effort level.

RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) - I am highly suspicious. Fingersplints might have spewed Rondo mafia, and his Oracle play is fucking weird. All his play is weird actually. Kinda think he voted FS before as a pre-emptive bus.

Roxy (she/her) - I actually really think Roxy is town lol. Lucy made a case earlier that I think makes sense to listen to and trust. But I really loved the shade she just directed at Sig. That was really towny. Roxy just feels like a town that has kind of ... been accidentally scummy in Alison's perspectives.

Seanzie (he/him or they/them) - Quite towny. Has not been appeasing but he's also been scrunitising things in a believable way. He doesn't really feel like he has an agenda aside from discovery.

sig (he/him) - I thought sig was super scummy early on but then he kinda pocketed me with his snark. Then he kinda just kept making play that kinda didn't resonate, all fucking day. Then he ended up sort of sneakily being on the Alison wagon despite not being an exponent. Then he defended Fingersplints in the scummiest way possible lol. Also FS townread him early on for nothing.

staypositivefriend (she/her) - I townread SPF, but like it's pretty well known at this point my SPF read is super hot garbage so should never been trusted. Especially don't let SPF cite my read as legacy please. Like @staypositivefriend if you do you are outed, don't do it. Don't even mention it. That said, SPF has felt like a force for good. I haven't had any pings which is kinda cool lol.

tutuu (any) - Probably one of my stronger townreads. I really loved their readslist with the funny nicknames haha. It reminded me of the way I do readslists sometimes. I vibe with a lot of their thots.

Good luck town and god speed. @Mafia, ur shit.
Flagrantly misrepresenting?

That is grade A baloney, and I happen to know they don't have baloney in Australia due to hatred of Italian processed meat.

You sir are either on some kick ass drugs, or you're Maf.

There may be a 3rd option, but I doubt it

read the first sentence

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:35 pm Noting that the Baudib creature lucy endorsed roxy wagon has Mac and Dennis voting for it and nobody else.
Thoughts on the following?

Bereft
Denise
falcon45ca

town
town
mafia

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:38 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:35 pm Noting that the Baudib creature lucy endorsed roxy wagon has Mac and Dennis voting for it and nobody else.
Thoughts on the following?

Bereft
Denise
falcon45ca
town
town
mafia
You've lost your Macradar on my slot, and it saddens me..like a Spandau Ballet song

perspective slip

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm Creature
roxy
sig
jack

have to be 3 of 4 mafia for town to win?

please explain how this is a valid thought?

Alison's legacy on these 4 is 2 town, 1 null, 1 wolf btw.
alison's legacy doesn't really matter - the point is that all of these players have wolfsided so aggressively and posted so disingenuously that it is difficult for me to get to a world where:

A. i don't want to murder them

B. the rest of the game doesn't want to murder them either

but youre right that i am just venting frustration about the way the first 2 days played out more than making real gamestate analysis

Explain how Creature has done what you're saying here and Falcon and Wilgy have not?

I would kill sig for sure though. I'm sure I had a solve at some point in this game I'm gonna retro myself and find it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:51 pm Here have some reads from one of my alters lol.

Alison (she/her) - I have tinfoil but both my head and my gut say she is town in this game. There are just too many question marks I have towards basically all of her voters/detractors. Her play in and of itself has been kind of null for her so my read on her is mostly a read based on her treatment not her play.

Baudib1 (he/him) - Quite different. My feeling towards Baudib has been that I've largely agreed with most of everything he's said. His play has been a beacon of towniness. But when I do preflip wagonomics with my reads (yes, a bad idea), there is a lot more credibility for those who've been pushing him, than those who have been pushing Alison. It is quite possible that Baudib is a deepwolf who townsides as this is the first time I've played with him. Which would mean that he's shielding town (Creature, Alison) with TMI and the Alison pushers are actually working overtime to stop him from dying in spite of this. This is a bit far fetched. I do townread him and I think he believes his posts.

Bereft (he/him) - Seanzie has the right of it when he says bereft has kind of flown under the radar. They do seem to be appearing on the right side of matters, but they haven't really been a force in the game at all. I really didn't like the way they justified their Fingersplints vote.

Creature (he/him) - He's continued to have direct and confident reads which has been the basis for SPF's meta based scumread. The most recent was the "Baudib wagon is trash" read. Maybe there is something there. Baudib shielded Creature in a way that I did not like. I don't really understand anything Creature is doing in this game.

Dennis (he/him) - Continues to just feel like an island boy, just tryna make it.

DrWilgy (he/him) - Yes, it troubles me that his focus points have been misaligned to mine. Yes, his reads have felt wolfsiding. But the way he has reacted to me has been towny. Wilgy's frustration is palpable. He has town entitlement.

falcon45ca (he/him) - I do not really vibe with any of Falcon's reads. I have humoured him as town for some level 1 reasons, but upon reflection Falcon is more than capable of doing the things I've been townpinged on as mafia. It's mostly just been the moments where he has been aggressive in defending his perspectives, but really those moments have been kinda basic. What I usually like to look for from Falcon is ... rational behaviour. He doesn't post much, and as town he's just like ... pretty standard town. He catches a lot of flak for being sort of slanky as town, but there's never really any basis for it. I'm not really seeing town Falcon.

fingersplints (she/her) - I am very sure this is a hit. I reread their ISO several times. None of their reads feel real. They haven't explained any of their reads. They are townreading most of the sussiest slots in the game.

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him) - I really don't know. I don't agree with anything he's said really. I cannot make sense of him. He feels like he has to be mafia if Baudib and Alison are town? But ... what is the actual gameplan as mafia in just furiously pushing Alison?

Kate (she/her) - I don't really think Kate has been towny but I also kinda just gut townread her. There is a sincerity to the way they have self read themselves as town in this game. I can't really say anything substantial aside from this.

lucy (she/her) - Probably just the real Oracle. Lucy is being treated poorly in this game by at least a few town (and probably all of the mafia).

MacDougall (he/him) - A very obvious mafia. Should be wagoned.

Neon (she/her) - I have summarised how I feel this Neon differs from usual town Neon. I didn't actually answer her when she asked whether I think that this newfound confidence might stem from her doing well in an MU game because it feels like ... well no it shouldn't but I guess it can? I think she is town now though. Just ... it's also that I don't. *sigh*

Porscha (she/her) - Will need scrutiny day 2. The conversation about Porscha being polarised hasn't really been had, and that's probably a good thing cuz I'm sick of having it every single god damn day 1. Porscha will become obvious on day 2 imo. They have set a day 1 benchmark that they will drop off from if they are mafia, and leap forward from if they are town. So if I die, do keep an eye on that. It's all about the effort level.

RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo) - I am highly suspicious. Fingersplints might have spewed Rondo mafia, and his Oracle play is fucking weird. All his play is weird actually. Kinda think he voted FS before as a pre-emptive bus.

Roxy (she/her) - I actually really think Roxy is town lol. Lucy made a case earlier that I think makes sense to listen to and trust. But I really loved the shade she just directed at Sig. That was really towny. Roxy just feels like a town that has kind of ... been accidentally scummy in Alison's perspectives.

Seanzie (he/him or they/them) - Quite towny. Has not been appeasing but he's also been scrunitising things in a believable way. He doesn't really feel like he has an agenda aside from discovery.

sig (he/him) - I thought sig was super scummy early on but then he kinda pocketed me with his snark. Then he kinda just kept making play that kinda didn't resonate, all fucking day. Then he ended up sort of sneakily being on the Alison wagon despite not being an exponent. Then he defended Fingersplints in the scummiest way possible lol. Also FS townread him early on for nothing.

staypositivefriend (she/her) - I townread SPF, but like it's pretty well known at this point my SPF read is super hot garbage so should never been trusted. Especially don't let SPF cite my read as legacy please. Like @staypositivefriend if you do you are outed, don't do it. Don't even mention it. That said, SPF has felt like a force for good. I haven't had any pings which is kinda cool lol.

tutuu (any) - Probably one of my stronger townreads. I really loved their readslist with the funny nicknames haha. It reminded me of the way I do readslists sometimes. I vibe with a lot of their thots.

Good luck town and god speed. @Mafia, ur shit.
Flagrantly misrepresenting?

That is grade A baloney, and I happen to know they don't have baloney in Australia due to hatred of Italian processed meat.

You sir are either on some kick ass drugs, or you're Maf.

There may be a 3rd option, but I doubt it
read the first sentence
I do not vibe with his reads, and I don't find falcon rational are so so so not the same.

Is it LSD? DMT? MDMA? CIA?

the first sentence of the whole post...

can you please show me what your solve looks like if I'm town?

D1

Alison: 6
falcon45ca
fingersplints
Jackofhearts2005
Neon
Roxy
sig

Day 2

Alison
6
40%
Voters: falcon45ca, Neon, Jackofhearts2005, tutuu, sig, Dennis

I wish to kill sig and Falcon badly.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:43 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:12 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:50 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:44 pm Ok so @Seanzie I guess we would like you to clarify. Do you have mechanical information that indicate Mac and Jack are wolves?
no bro, don't you know that if I did I couldn't say it but hey it isn't the case anyway, so sit down and just drown in the fact that "Mac and Jack ate a shortstack of flapjacks in wolf chat" is a fact that I deduced by being a sleuth, reading the thread, using my head. No cards jarred these facts that I spread.
Are you able to elaborate on what lead you to that conclusion then pls
This post:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:56 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:52 pm If alison is mafia i feel like 2 or maybe 3 of the people vehemently pushing her are also mafia

Looking at jack and sig

A possible explanation for the behavior "alison maf, i aint moving, nu-uh, nothing else exists i put my hands on my ears lalalalala" is an orchestrated bus, maybe alison has exams or something she always has exams :P

(I still have an unconfident townread on her, just exploring an option)
Aww darn you got me but I guess I’ll double down and hope for the best. Maybe reverse psychology will keep you from yeeting Alison, who is wolves with me.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine
Is a wolf who is saying "Haha, you're pairing me with a townie, you think you've caught me but you're right for the wrong reasons and it will fall apart when Alison flips". Jack HAS been got, just not for the reasons Tutuu is putting out.

I don't remember the specifics behind Mac, but I'm sure they were breathtakingly convincing, and could stand alone without considering that Mac is eating villagers for breakfast left and right.

Seanzie how the fucking fuck can you say that last sentence. I've literally killed ONE WOLFY SLANKER to try to save the town that HALF THE GAME KILLED. Fucking fuck fucker.

FUCKFKKANFGBBANJ4JKIDIJ2N

Kill Sig
Kill Falcon
Kill Jack
Kill Wilgy
Kill Sabi
Kill Porscha

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:46 pm D1

Alison: 6
falcon45ca
fingersplints
Jackofhearts2005
Neon
Roxy
sig

Day 2

Alison
6
40%
Voters: falcon45ca, Neon, Jackofhearts2005, tutuu, sig, Dennis

I wish to kill sig and Falcon badly.
What does your solve look like when I flip town?

And I will. Bank it.

For someone who has demonstrably hard wolfsided you seem insistent on continuing to do so.

the mafia clearly rushed an Alison wagon so they could play the card...

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:49 pm I have a readslist I'll post in a second that I wrote up before Neon's flip but I'll just post it anyway because not much has changed based on posting today. I'll ignore various softs and stuff and reiterate that night targets were randomized.

Like Sean is obviously softing something but Jack is a wolf for a lot of other reasons so like, fine. His comment on Mac eating villagers left and right is...interesting and it's technically not incorrect.

This game isn't really ideal for me because I make reads by interacting with people and I like to point out small details in posts and I can't really do that here; ideally I'd need like 500 posts in a 48-hour phase but oh well. The worldwide Mafia recession has hit everyone hard.

it is very incorrect... I am responsible for one villager death as a counterwagon to a stronger villager. its a dumb fucking stupid horsehit infuriating comment and ur a fucker

all of u can suck my balls

especially you porscha

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