The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:23 pm If i was going to score people based on the quantity and quality of their solving I would have Esooa and Ender at the top. Alexa and Ilario thereish. Maybe this is just how I need to read this game.
I think you know this is usually a bad way to read the game

If the standard of solving is awful and low it is, but in mountainous it's optimal and requires enforcing higher standard. Otherwise the game is just a rand idiotic mess.

right, awesome.

If i was going to score people based on the quantity and quality of their solving I would have Esooa and Ender at the top. Alexa and Ilario thereish. Maybe this is just how I need to read this game.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:18 pm why though, what are YOU seeing?
Pure. Unadulterated. Towniness.

You aren't going to give any specific references to things that you consider outside your wolf range even though it should be super obvious?

The easiest way to win games like this is to force people to live up to a standard of solving that they plausibly can't maintain as mafia. Questioning people to explore their mindset. Offering naked townreads for bad reasons in a high standard mountainous game is how to lose.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:19 pm How dumb of a read would it be to say that lime is town cause he's using large font and bold and he didn't do that in the joat game iirc

I'm desperately trying to improve the standard of play right now so very

why though, what are YOU seeing?

correct

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:52 pm @Wiml generally speaking how do you intend to deal with the nanook slot given he is determined to make zero alignment indicative posts?
If my poe gets flipped I'll have a bunch of AI posts

I said that before i actually read your posts in fairness. I just assumed it was as lacking as usual but I can actually see wheels turning for you in this game. I particularly liked that you called a wiml POE insane, and also when you told him that his POE contained 3-4 town.

It's funny how much my tone and playstyle changes when I am on a computer with a keyboard though.

I can kinda see the progression Nanook has and it's pretty reasonable. Like he snap scumread Ilario for what appears to be outing a pretty bad read on Alexa who he was townreading from the get-go and kinda shielding. Wiml defended ilario and Nanook didn't like that so he's content to see Wiml punished for it.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME if you think Ilario is a wolf what is your plan to actually resolve him given he's read town by practically everyone?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:54 pm This IS starting to feel more like Town Mac.

I don't know what to think about that.

I personally am a little bit confused how I am mafia in any of the worlds you are building anyway. Your suspects by and large are people I've tried to bury in ways that I don't think you would be reading team aligned if you bothered to check.

Like you of all people here should probably actually be town reading me on play.

Nanook's ISO is actually pretty townie I think. Dare I...

@Lime Coke do you think that you are actually out of your wolf meta in this game? if yes what exactly have you done that's unlike your wolf game?

@Wiml generally speaking how do you intend to deal with the nanook slot given he is determined to make zero alignment indicative posts?

@EnderWiggin I still think the most strictly wolfy thing that I have seen in this game so far was the TSP fake derptell. Has your TSP read updated?

@Esooa do you think that wiml would find it difficult to find the correct words to push you off correctly wolf reading him?

@alexa correct me if I am wrong but your read on LC isn't lock level is it?

@ilario same question?

It'd be pretty annoying if we had two games in a row where LC was a wolf being hard shielded by his friends incorrectly. I dunno how i feel about that honestly.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:40 pm surely the best lime coke game for meta purposes would be the wolf game he just played on this site with half the same players? why are we deep diving into his entire backstory?
Because one-game of meta isn't always listened to?

But anyway, I think he's kinda similar to that game. Main meta-shield, no outing of thought for reasoning, and then fading into the background.

ie. Alexa is Honey yes I had that thought. His day 1 was tonally different early on but the pattern does vibe. It probably is relevant too that someone from that game that wolfed with him and someone who caught him as town both align here. I also think Alison scumread him lightly and she also wolfed with him.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:14 pm Plus you're noticing my reads are off, that's because my reads have BEEN off.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... IA-WINS%29

This game on my main my legacy reads at the end were "SPF AND CHELSEA TOWN" and hard shielded them.
SPF was town, Chelsea was maf.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... bed-a-Bank
This game I was on Mystery Player, my legacy reads were "SPF AND DUNYA TOWN" and hard shielded them, including me saying I'd bingewatch a show of Dunya's choosing if she was mafia.
SPF was town, Dunya was mafia and I'm watching Elite on Netflix now.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... f-the-Rift
This game my legacy reads and my hard shield was on Neopest and I was holding people at gunpoint to townread Katze .
NEO TOWN, KATZE MAF

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Experiment
This (shitty) game I had both Alexa and Neo town as my legacy reads.
Alexa was town, Neo was maf.

You understand why I'm being so cautious about my reads right now? Any time I spout multiple legacy reads, I've been dead wrong on some of them.

I'm usually right on one player, but the second player I end up being totally wrong and I fuck the town over by hardshielding a wolf.

this is why i never hard shield anyone ever lol

townread sure, but i'm never gonna yell at people to sheep my townreads. anyone has the potential to make you look dumb on a good day and to me there is nothing worse than stopping a fellow townie from pushing a good read because you're a pocketed noob.

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:40 pm i mean me getting emotional does probably happen more so as town but in general should not be why you read me town

I don't like making reads like this but they are just usually accurate.

surely the best lime coke game for meta purposes would be the wolf game he just played on this site with half the same players? why are we deep diving into his entire backstory?

Is reading Alexa town for getting super upset (I'm crying etc.) a fair read or does she actually have that in her wolf-range? @ilario @Lime Coke

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:21 pm damn when did i become #1

when you and wiml had a flare up

The way LC deals with Wiml is actually a bit weird.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:23 pm READLIIIIIIST:

Town:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Alison
Illario
Wiml
Mac
Nanook
TSP
Transcend
Maf:

The bottom 3 are more POE.

At this point in the game he has him pretty low. Hasn't engaged with him, tried to figure him out or anything.

Next mention of Wiml he sheeps Alexa townreading him.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:38 pm Wiml just feels like solid town to me
Same.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:49 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:44 pm Going in here are some disassociations I have.

Alexa - Esooa, Lime Coke, Wiml, Ilario
Ender - nobody?
Esooa - Alexa
ilario - Alexa, Nanook
Lime Coke - Alexa
Nanook - Wiml, Ilario
TSP - Nobody
Wiml - Nanook, Alexa
I'm an idiot, what is this pointing out?
Players that are not teamed from my perspective
I'm mean I'm pretty sure you can add Wiml to Esooa's list because she's literally been pushing him since Day 1.

Conscious of who has been pushing Wiml.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:15 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:49 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:44 pm Going in here are some disassociations I have.

Alexa - Esooa, Lime Coke, Wiml, Ilario
Ender - nobody?
Esooa - Alexa
ilario - Alexa, Nanook
Lime Coke - Alexa
Nanook - Wiml, Ilario
TSP - Nobody
Wiml - Nanook, Alexa
I'm an idiot, what is this pointing out?
Players that are not teamed from my perspective
I'm mean I'm pretty sure you can add Wiml to Esooa's list because she's literally been pushing him since Day 1.
Nah its in their teammate range. Especially given Esooa was a little bit hedgey about it d1 and Wiml was never at actual risk.
Wasn't he a wagon at EOD?

The one you were on before you switched to Transcend after getting him on said wagon for some reason?

And again.

alexa

Esooa
ilario

EnderWiggin

TonyStarkPrime
Nanook

Lime Coke

Wiml

[VOTE: wiml] aubergine

not vibin

@Wiml do you really scumread me for trying to project towniness from inside the POE? Is that really your best read?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:44 pm this poop im doing is not going well for me
Try singing lullabies I've always found that helps

I'll give this a shot next time

this poop im doing is not going well for me

@JaggedJimmyJay Evanescence good?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:31 pm Wakin up inside
can't wake up
It's freezing right now. Don't want to wake up
...

saaaave me!
Yes I intentionally didn't keep the lyrics going lol

towny tbh

today we take a few hours off from the hostility to regale one another with humour and tomfoolery

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:31 pm Wakin up inside
can't wake up
It's freezing right now. Don't want to wake up

...

saaaave me!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:46 am ilario why is nanook a better slanker chop than tsp?

ironically theyre both townreading me and literally nobody else
I'm townreading a lot more than just you lolol

Alexa, ender, esooa

bruh why do ppl misread my post

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:33 pm that's not even about you

bro code bruh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:09 pm mac got upset when esooa unvoted

don't talk about me behind my back bruh

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:31 pm Wakin up inside

can't wake up

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:21 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:17 am
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:53 am
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:52 am If I am misreading someone It is likely mac, but this is my own personal pet read that nobody is obliged to follow.
Your read on me is unwelcome and I dismiss it. Go back to scumreading me if your conviction on it is like this. You may as well.
i have conviction on the read, but im not gonna drown everyone out and tell them my opinion>theirs and they have to listen to it.
that is not what the post I quoted was doing in the slightest
i get tthat, but u think my tr on u lacks conviction, but it doesnt. im like 95% sure ur just town, like i would put u on vvv of my list. the disclaimer "If I am misreading someone It is likely mac" is added because majority of the lobby doesnt feel the same way, so if everyone is against me it could simply be that i am wrong and tunneled to think my tr on u is correct.

if you need to randomly point out under no pressure that its your worst read it doesn't sound like 95% unless you have the solve

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:53 am
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:52 am If I am misreading someone It is likely mac, but this is my own personal pet read that nobody is obliged to follow.
Your read on me is unwelcome and I dismiss it. Go back to scumreading me if your conviction on it is like this. You may as well.
i have conviction on the read, but im not gonna drown everyone out and tell them my opinion>theirs and they have to listen to it.

that is not what the post I quoted was doing in the slightest

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:05 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:04 am Anyone who wants to chat with me has like, thirty minutes of delirious Ender
why do I play this game?
For the brief moments when you're right and you feel the rush of endorphins that make your life make sense for a little while.

Then the rest of it is chasing those brief moments.

there are surely better ways

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:04 am Anyone who wants to chat with me has like, thirty minutes of delirious Ender

why do I play this game?

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:02 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:29 am
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:24 am
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:21 am [VOTE: mac] aubergine

the fact that he has 0 votes and LC has 2 still feels off.
so you vote people for reasons like this and then get mad when they disagree. okay.
i think your vote on LC felt opportunistic
I was voting LC most of the day and only moved to Nanook when Ilario cased him. Please stop tunneling me.
whats ur read on me mac

@EnderWiggin thanks for the effort in ur dive, ill read ur case in a sec, just tryna catch upto the thread

hard to scumread you dude

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:59 am
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:57 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:54 am
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:53 am Mac I haven't even been on you for this whole day though? I told you in the beginning of the day not to self vote if you're town and that I wanted to kill a wolf, and then when I voted someone else you called that wolfy because killing you was "pro-town"
You told me that and then used the fact that I followed your instructions to scumread me about 9 minutes ago.
you can explain to me that your vote on LC was not opportunistic without insulting me. if you explained it then i would say "ah okay Mac, I missed where you were pushing on him all day" (which is very reasonable considering i back-read from my phone half-asleep and i miss things). i'm not taking every line you say and dumpstering on you for it
where did I insult you for it?

if I did I apologise but I have fended off about 4000 separate accusations today and I've had a fair guful of it.

gutful

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:59 am Also anyone else

iso me

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:58 am I dunno. Don't remember the day 1 much

for EoD Mac has the very easy excuse of thinking transcend needs to die

this isn't relevant anyways

click the link and read the very first page. it is all you have to read. why would you not?

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:57 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:54 am
alexa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:53 am Mac I haven't even been on you for this whole day though? I told you in the beginning of the day not to self vote if you're town and that I wanted to kill a wolf, and then when I voted someone else you called that wolfy because killing you was "pro-town"
You told me that and then used the fact that I followed your instructions to scumread me about 9 minutes ago.
you can explain to me that your vote on LC was not opportunistic without insulting me. if you explained it then i would say "ah okay Mac, I missed where you were pushing on him all day" (which is very reasonable considering i back-read from my phone half-asleep and i miss things). i'm not taking every line you say and dumpstering on you for it

where did I insult you for it?

if I did I apologise but I have fended off about 4000 separate accusations today and I've had a fair guful of it.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:57 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:55 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:54 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:52 am Nah if Mac was my partner I would never want to bus him lol. You know what my typical wolf partners have been like.
maybe

but if he's your partner you two are kinda in a bad situation so you gotta do something
Are you memeing? You think wiml and I are partners?

Okay you're not allowed to continue until you read my ISO using wiml keyword search. Please kindly do.
you can and did pretty easily flip your read on wiml

if you actually think what you've said about wiml can't be partners from my pov you're wrong imo

mostly I think it's unpartnered from wimls side

utter nonsense. click the link. you clearly haven't done any research. it is exceedingly obvious i wanted him dead d1.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... &start=150

here. proclick for anyone too lazy to research the validity of wiml/mac teammate reads.

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