The Syndicate

Your big solve is LC.

LC was god read town by Honey. Soup targeted. And allowed himself to get vanillaised last night.

Where is the wolf there? I would love to see it cuz I scumread him on day 1 and I enjoy being proven right. But the facts don't align.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:47 pm C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.
Pls

Pls what? Do you have a green check on Scotty?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:44 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:38 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm

Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd
I ask again if the soup kill was a charade then where is the real one? It is just real.
Can it... not... come later on?

It is day 5. When is it coming if not already? The wolves are losing numerical advantage and clearly know at the very least what roles HK and I are. And yet here we are just alive and breathing.

C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:45 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm scotty I think is town b/c of his wim even as we were closing in on martin yesterday and TH today.
Like if he's a wolf he just shuts up and keeps his head down here I think.
what's giving me paranoia about Scotty is entirely D2

Scum fought against or ignored the fact that he was a free yeet

Quite so.

What would be the value in him just shutting up and putting his head down? He would just end up in POE?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:38 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm Nah it is a way better idea than that.

In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd

I ask again if the soup kill was a charade then where is the real one? It is just real.

But alas if he is a wolf he is one with no powers so he is not priority.

That said it does say same alignment he had. And I guess there is room for him having been mafia to begin with.

Stupid bastard games.

That's good we can put the spork down.

I see the card in the discord. HK is ultra confirmed town here.

and why not Scotty?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:38 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm Nah it is a way better idea than that.

In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No

Did I say a name.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:35 pm @hollowkatt how earnest was Michelle's solving in DVC? I feel like it'd be pretty obvious whether she really was town. Can you talk more about that? You mentioned Michelle and Ender both claimed to have flipped wrong in DVC and both wanted Scotty dead?

Also have you explained how it is you came to be still alive?
Michelle wasn't earnestly solving in DVC. She maintained that she flipped wrong but didn't work to solve anyone living.
We were given an option to send a name to someone that if they were alive would kill the named person. I advocated TH, everyone else who participated advocated Scotty. I think Honey was most vocal there.

I am alive b/c I had a 10% chance to resurrect. That ability isn't in my "role" it's in my "card", like the cards we all got to start the game that could be traded, it's in there.

You hit a 1/10 chance to resurrect? Wow.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:32 pm What about the notion that there are 2 partners left?
Probable

Ender def scum
Osie overwhelmingly likely scum
Still feel like Michelle was a pretty likely red flip

I think 16v5 is possible

Also was reading Lime Coke and the best thing going for him is that he's in the soup kill

Interactions with mafia from his end to them tend to be softballs

Ngl I don't want to read Scotty's 400 posts

If those three flips were accurate that would mean that there is only one after TH unless HK has come back a zombie.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm Nah it is a way better idea than that.

In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb

Then persuade me.

@hollowkatt how earnest was Michelle's solving in DVC? I feel like it'd be pretty obvious whether she really was town. Can you talk more about that? You mentioned Michelle and Ender both claimed to have flipped wrong in DVC and both wanted Scotty dead?

Also have you explained how it is you came to be still alive?

What about the notion that there are 2 partners left?

Also does anyone think there is a chance TH is the last?

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:21 pm Mac's the deep wolf and going to switch the votes while Ender comes in with his 3 death votes that are about to expire

what's this about death votes?

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:21 pm 15 hours and 40 minutes

1am my time. Joy.

Nah it is a way better idea than that.

In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.

I have a plan. It is a fucking dope plan. I need everyone to be online for EOD to pull it off. When is EOD?

I'm just out here pooping my best poop.

pooping for america

pooping out all the good times

its a good one

pooping again

hard claim pooping

solving other wolves?

[VOTE: triplehaven] aubergine

yeah no he's just mafia ok

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:51 pm scotty-martin topscum, i vagually remember creatures slot, nanook and lime all being towny, hk is town, dont have thoughts on other slots. probably need to get some

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:08 pm scum get your grimey hands off martin

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:49 pm
TripleHaven wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:45 pm gonna claim cause mcc is today and idgaf

I tracked martin and didnt see him go anywhere so i assumed he was town since it was more likely that mafia had a night visiting role then not
You…you tracked him last night?

I can also confirm he didn’t go anywhere

come on he clearly didn't mean last night lol

like he was expecting it to happen so he could say I told you so

The "like i think he will" addendum is a strange thing for Ender to add. It reeks of TMI.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:05 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:04 pmIf he is bad
For this post alone, if Creature flips red like I think he will, I will investigate your posts again. This addendum feels like TMI being remembered and corrected for.

I expect our vest giver will be back at work tonight as it's back to cycle 1 for everyone with 3 abilities. So this really does seem dire for the mafia.

The fact that the Mafia think there is a doctor is interesting actually. There may not be. They may have just assumed because they have a strongkill that there is but the presence of the vest giver is enough for a strongkill.

you did claim your other role so couldn't they soup you from that?

@listo95 thoughts?

I don't think you are mafia anymore but its not because of something the mod wrote in a bastard game. Nanook's point with Seanzie's role is very strong. Alison's point about your votes is also good. And also you have the demeanour of a town frustrated that the dumb person won't accept your status as inno child. Which I can relate to.

I am also wearing a vest. I believe it is a legit vest. Because I got the bad gun n1 so I doubt I got 2 wolf targets on me.

The vanillaising is not permanent. It is for the night you overpost only.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:55 pm Also, Mac, just wanna know, if the soup didn't happen would you think LC was a wolf?

Why live in highly speculative worlds when I can just live in the one I am in?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:52 pm Okay so I don't even know how a "fake soup" would work but

Mac, if the wolves have an actual guess at your role, and they want to do a fake soup, what's stopping them from putting that in there? Why can't they show their cards and still soup you later? It's not like your role will change.

Okay so if that was a fake one where's the real one been? N4 and they haven't fired off the real soup yet? With three of them dead?

N1 I used an action from my previous role called Blaze which was a role that turned me into a vengeful spirit if I was killed while it was active

N2 I didn't act because I was vanillaised by overposting. Which was ironic because all my abilities sucked anyway so it wasn't even a punishment.

N3 I activated ascetic.

N4 Miller.

Which means if I live until tomorrow I will be a disloyal PGO tomorrow so best no town come near me tomorrow night.

Like fmpov

Alison is just town because of her pushes. Particularly the Martin one. Plus loads of mindmelds.

Dolby literally killed a wolf and then got baited a wolf into hitting him with an ability I also was hit with when I had the gun.

Knowing Alison is town makes Nanook just town. I just wolfed with him. He doesn't bus. He just flagrantly votes townies. He wouldn't sheep Alison and I on Ender d1 the way he did. He's just town.

That makes 2 of the soup town on play plus me. Then the fact that the soup named my actual role so like at worst I know the mafia know my role. Them knowing my role confirms that they are the ones that gave me the gun that fucked my roleset. It seems like they just guessed wrong on one person. That person is probably Alison otherwise she would probably agree with me and be outing her actual role alongside me right now.

Like by all means the rest of you holster your claims but I have no reason to because I know for sure the wolves know my role so even if they have soup I'm on it anyway.

But I really don't think Guillo uses soup that way. He usually gives wolves 1 soup a game.

Lime Coke has been a mixed bag sure but its hard not to just take him as town off the soup fmpov.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:28 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:27 pm Wasn't Scotty in your POE? You voted a series of names after Martin to indicate who you suspected: c4, listo, Scotty, TH. What happened to your Scotty/listo suspicions?
What happened is he still thinks I conceded

It was pretty concedey in fairness to me.

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:27 pm My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

Please try to separate your distaste of me from your read. I rarely get into heated arguments with wolves. It is probably similar for you. When two passionate people feel righteous it explodes. Wolves don't tend to have that same ceiling imo.

I do apologise for upsetting you. It wasn't my intention to misgender you. I do use dude as everyday vernacular to describe everything including my female cat. It isn't a projection of fragile masculinity its lazy adopted vocabulary. I assure you what you think of me is not the full picture. Except the ego part I do have way too much of that.

I am on my phone I can't make a wall. Just ctrl f Osie's tiny iso for Scotty and listo mentions. They are 2 of the only players they genuinely tried to push.

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