The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:55 pm Don't vote either Wilgy or Nook

Vote me rather, I want out of this game anyway

Good luck figuring out the power Wolfes OR NAA lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:52 pmdizzy pushing everywhere he can showing he's actually content with whatever even foiling you and me

Be quiet.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:48 pm dizzy kinda spewing him and wilgy as the team imo

how

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:48 pm dizzy kinda spewing him and wilgy as the team imo

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

no no no. This is disgusting.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:47 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:46 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:44 pm there’s things wolves do not ever fake and c4 thinking dizzy was softing a red check on me at SoD and soft communicating about it itt is one of those things

Yeah, I don't agree with this.

with respect, i don’t care what you agree with

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:45 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:44 pm there’s things wolves do not ever fake and c4 thinking dizzy was softing a red check on me at SoD and soft communicating about it itt is one of those things

Yeah, so there's probably scum between Mac and Jay. Get into it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:39 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:39 pm [VOTE: NAA] aubergine

we’re not killing c4

I'll vote this if you don't want to vote Mac

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:22 pm I think that's everyone except Mac not countering.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:00 am I feel like the game is solved. If anyone wants to claw me back down from the clouds, please do. But just know that right now at 4:00 AM that’s how I feel.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:10 am Imagine I have the energy to quote a bunch of stuff that dizzy said while I was fighting with Hally and Jay and pointed out how wolfy it is. Then agree with it plz.

Dizzy posts from the period in which Mac and I were fighting early in Day 2:

Spoiler: show

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:35 pm dizzy i really have no idea what your issue with me this game is

or just like your issue with everything in general even

You wouldn’t buy Alison’s trick as town. You are hesitant in making points that advance town. I just think it’s a decent chance you’re mafia, and I’m not going to get into a discussion about it with you. We can talk about other things.

Hopefully I get to read the game again during this day phase.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

that isn't helping my point right now

But it’s true. Don’t really thing Jay is mafia. But what I think isn’t likely to be worth much

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm Furthermore I will add that nobody outright attacking me (the way Jay and Hally have done right now) d1 is a strong indicator that it's because I was pushing an incorrect POE and wasn't being a threat. Jay and Hally at multiple points exhibited TMI that I was town.

You were pushed a decent deal for a d1. You’re not making convincing points tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:50 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:35 pm dizzy i really have no idea what your issue with me this game is

or just like your issue with everything in general even

You wouldn’t buy Alison’s trick as town. You are hesitant in making points that advance town. I just think it’s a decent chance you’re mafia, and I’m not going to get into a discussion about it with you. We can talk about other things.

Hopefully I get to read the game again during this day phase.

why would i ever think alison would troll there? she’s like the least trolly person on the planet

i was actually kinda shocked she made that post when she flipped villager

I watched it in real time and was almost positive she was lying. It’s well within her wheelhouse.

Oh well. My brain wants to tunnel you so

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:51 pm Jimmay is town though. No more paranoia there for me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:53 pm This is chaos and I’m adding to it. I love that for us.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm I've never, in admittedly more limited than you might expect experience, seen Jay treat someone the way he's treating Mac now. I find it interesting and probably alignment indicative.

It's been a long time perhaps, but roasting Mac is an old tradition (and one he is ridiculous to pretend never happens). He and Epignosis are the most common targets for my more... animated aggression.

It’s kind of hawt tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

Didn’t you just spend the last pages declaring how Jimmay and Hally are teammates.

You can calm down with the open wolfing now lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

Why does Hally’s posts count as derp clears, while Jimnay’s does not?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm In the triangle of Dyslexicon, Hally and Jay there are always two mafia.

So it’s me and Jay, since you just cleared Hally from derps?

Like… are you derp clearing lock towning Hally, or are you accusing them? Cause that seems the tiniest fraction unclear

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm Why does Hally’s posts count as derp clears, while Jimnay’s does not?

Why am I town now?

I never scum read you.

I was asking Mac why he’s clearing Hally for reacting to Alison’s lies, but not you.

Of course, nobody should be cleared off of that, as mafia isn’t going to let it be known that it is a lie.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

No you are sidelining hot takes that feel like cheerleading Jay in a really scummy way and even Jay noticed it.

Your yammering makes zero sense to me. Sorryboutit.

You’re accusing Hally and clearing Hally on breathing in and out.

Or I just don’t get it.

And I believe that if there’s scum between j/hally, it’s likelier to be hally.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:15 pm But I am very much amused, yes.

Can’t tell if this is a disaster or will be productive at some point.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:17 pm Wild as it seems, Mac still could be town.

Oh wow, how amazing and interesting!

I will return later. Game game game

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

A few things that might be indicative of mafia Dizzy from this pile:

1) Suggesting Hally is suspicious for "buying Alison's trick" -- no reason I see why town Hally can't do that, and it also suggests to me that Dizzy knew too much about Alison's motivations as it had been happening (by way of knowing her alignment).

2) Town reading me while I was screaming at Mac in a way that I haven't done in a long time, causing numerous people including Dizzy himself to remark that I was out of character.

3) Suggesting Mac was openwolfing for making his arguments against Hally and I, points that I don't think should have necessarily been viewed as patently wrong by people other than Hally and I.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

I will quote all the posts Mac mentioned a moment ago, but I want to highlight this one especially.

After Mac and I rip each other's heads off and Dizzy eventually settles into the town/town read, the first suspect to emerge as an alternative is... Hally? What?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:21 pm Gonna vote MR now because Alison is a better being and I don’t want us to seem teamed

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:46 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:10 amno burn intended I am just trying to make you recognise the hypocrisy of claiming my play "leads nowhere" when your current play is to yolo a vote onto a town Mac

You're a possible chop. C4 is not. So it leads somewhere. Potentially. Your alignment is irrelevant.

If you want to understand my perspective. But if you want to moan, feel free.

this reminds me, i actually think mac’s moaning is king wolfy for him

when he’s v i feel like he gets motivated by pressure and is all “i’m gonna bitchslap the wokves now,” but his response here has felt kinda weaksauce so far

That's what I've been saying. He's moany, arguing points that doesn't matter and not really solving the game afaic.

But I almost feel like he's town playing his wolf meta, though I don't know why I feel this way.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:09 am @MacDougall, MR/Dizzy would very much affirm your original thought that the Alison chop was mafia-driven.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:36 am Hally's back and forthing on me is really annoying but supremely towny.

Jay has just decided to do the thing where if he's mafia he just wins cuz he tries too hard.

Nanook's fury is probably not mafia aligned cuz he's a good boy. This read disgusts me.

Early game Mac thought Dizzy was super townie, then Dizzy annoyed me and I scumread him. But in reality Hally sheep plus my early game feel means he probs just town.

Kinda just feel like Axe is town but I guess I could be wrong.

Wilgy and C4 are not aligned by Jay's standards and also mine.

So my solve is like...

Axe
Wilgy/C4
Radishes

Jay has C4/Radishes not likely, and Radishes/Wilgy unaligned. C4/NAA is maybe but not overwhelming. I probably think like the way the other three here have treated Wilgy spews him town. Radish/Axe is nope.

Soooo C4/Axe is my solve I guess. Bye.

You know there was a brief time in video mafia where I could be reliably scum read if I cursed past a certain threshold

Idc if people town read me for being annoyed with the gamestate but I wouldn't really townread me for "being a good boy," i am a firm believer that anything town can do mafia can too so

I mean if you want to that's fine I just want it clear that I unequivocally do not believe there are boundaries town can cross that mafia can't

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:04 am i really must be tired because i’m tinfoiling a jay/mac world lol. i actually think it fits with their interactions well, specifically

- jay was kinda oddly defensive of mac D1 imo when i don’t think mac’s play really warranted it

- they had that big fight SoD2 that i can see as wolf theater. on jay’s side, it’s already been noted that he seemed uncharacteristically combative towards mac, and i think mac would absolutely go for that kind of theater here. it seems very much in his wheelhouse to have a big fight to look unaligned.

- since that fight nothing has really happened between them? mac has continued to take pot shots at jay here and there but not really pursued his suspicions while jay has gone back to town reading him, and mac is now town reading jay back

- i also think this team would kinda explain why the game has felt so frustrating

it’s entirely possible i’ll think this is dumb when i wake up and i doubt i’ll ever be able to pull the trigger on it but i’m throwing it out there for the #postgamecred

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:26 am ever since i said mac had the villageriest D2 his posting has gone back to being kinda underwhelming

still think he’s probably a villager but i’m a bit worried

(not actually here)

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:16 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:19 pm I am literally drowning in irony

we are hard difference checked so we can openly troll people together and never get suspected as partners so let's do that

Is there a better 21st century dancer than Jason sudeikis?

I say no, there is not

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:19 pm I am literally drowning in irony

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm I think this game is actually really easy.

There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.

There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.

If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:48 am I think c4 is town. He has been paying extremely close attention to the subtleties of posts and posting trends and is noticing things that I don't think mafia realize they could be looking for.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:35 am i think mac has actually had the villageriest D2 of anyone so far

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:42 pm jay keeps saying that he'd not do this or that as mafia and it's just so out of character for town jay to even humour peasantry like this

No it isn’t. This happens literally every time we fight, where you tell me I don’t usually do things that I often do. Please screenshot this for reference next time.

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:50 pm If anyone replies to this with "OMG YOUR READS EARLIER WERE DIFFERENT" I am gonna ...

Hally
Axe

my only two townreads

I don't trust anyone else

OMG YOUR READS EARLIER WERE DIFFERENT