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by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:38 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Matt F wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Did you like my lynch poster?
I know Sorsha liked it. ;)
No you don't.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:37 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Did you like my lynch poster?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:34 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

I believe I have uncovered the truth.

You are all just antisocial to new players to your forum.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:16 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

You cracked the case guys. Jimmy has been publicly orchestrating town lynches on purpose while maintaining a vocal town read on a teammate and we both bussed Long Con on day 2 because he asked us to.

Or we are both townies who have a town read on each other and both had a scum read on a scum player.

And in a twist of fate you two are our teammates.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:09 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Ricochet wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:It also makes JJJ extremely unlikely to be scum since he was pushing the shit out of it.
And 3J keeps stressing how civilian you are. :suspish:
I noticed that, too.
I guess that makes you guys literate. Congrats.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:45 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Ricochet wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
linki: "Nervous backtracking" was really just the vibe you gave to me. A three paragraph response to something that was quite a flippant and unnecessary accusation reads like you are taking it more seriously than it deserves to be taken.
Not really. First reply I did was asking him where I said I "asked mods to modkill" and clarifying my statements.

I got a "lol" for that, after which I got a multiple-point serious second point. I addressed all of those points.

If you found Matt's accusation flippant and unnecessary, why don't you challenge it as such? I'm on the other end of such an accusation and when that happens, I'll defend myself.
Well I'm kind of killing two birds with one stone by just talking to you about it and ignoring the poop throwing monkey.

Russtifinko (18), motel room (20), JaggedJimmyJay (22), RadicalFuzz (23), Metalmarsh89 (30), Diiny (31), Ricochet (32), Matt F (34)

So assuming that the scum role "Drugs" is responsible for this lynch, it's fair to say the scum wanted him dead and were banking on him being a top lynch candidate again. It's unlikely that anybody who was late on the Espers wagon is scum otherwise they've gone mighty close to foiling the scum plan. Only one more vote for Espers and Devin would still be here.

It also makes JJJ extremely unlikely to be scum since he was pushing the shit out of it.

Now that being said, Espers could be town and as things happened the lynch may not have mattered one way or the other to the scum and all of this could be meaningless. But I'm softened on Metalmarsh and Diiny and my town reads of Rico and MattF are strengthened because of this.

Jimmy couldn't be more town if he was wearing a white hat that had the word town on it.

Looking at the later votes on Devinwagon, and none came before any of these four so it doesn't look like the scum got desparate and tried to double down to ensure Devin got lynched, but it does make me more weary of sig, Bullzeye and Black Rock.

linki: So coupled with Epi's request, let's take a closer look at Black Rock.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:32 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

We're going to be fucked if numerable scum turn out to be from the floyd/seaside/bcornett etc. low content posse. All the high contributors are shouting at each other in the middle of the banquet hall throwing food around while the scum are probably sitting down quietly sharing pensive glances with one another shuffling poker chips in their hands.

If you have night roles that could help reveal, intimidate or otherwise control these low content players I would put your focus there because it's looking like lynching them is going to be very hard.

linki: "Nervous backtracking" was really just the vibe you gave to me. A three paragraph response to something that was quite a flippant and unnecessary accusation reads like you are taking it more seriously than it deserves to be taken.

And no, I said his dick would shrivel up inside him and never come out. :fishing:
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:27 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Ricochet that's an interesting reaction to a player saying you did something you did not do (MattF). I would have expected more aggression than nervous backtracking. If he did that to me I'd have called him a dickless wonder.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:21 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Matt F wrote:
Matt F wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Matt F wrote:Tbh, Rico, you continually asking MP to modkill non-players makes me increasingly suspicious. Didn't you call for rdw's modkill, and he was civvie?
Where did I ask the Hosts to modkill either espers or RDW? I asked for status clarification, under the Participation Score guidelines.
Lol
Seriously, this had me laughing but down to business...

You correcting me from "modkill" to "status clarification" is all well and good, but you've hardly defended the point. Why do you keep asking for status clarification if you're not trying to get them mod-killed?

Also, I seem to remember a certain Rico causing ties in the Day 0 thread.

Linki - The civvie killer hasn't killed once. Earlier I was thinking maybe that role went to HamburgerBoy.
I note you don't think it could have been any of the other dead townies? Why is only HamburgerBoy a mystery to you?

linki: At least you're fabulous.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:19 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Do you really think that what Choutas just did makes him anti-town? It's a strange strange move but I struggle to rationalise it as an anti-town one.

It does make his earlier posts on the subject read non genuine though, which is a bad look.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:16 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Choutas wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Choutas wrote:Dear serial killer

Although we've never met before fate has intertwined our paths. I am sure this will be very bold of me but bare my straightforwardness. I have been having very clear indications that strawhenge/sig/epignosis/rico are scum. By scum I mean scum of the earth. Thugs of the lowest order that need to be exterminated in order for both of our factions to have a decent chance to win this game. Many people call you a serial killer but they are gravely mistaken. You are a white knight upholding justice. Just kill either of those four(or two if you have stacked kills) and make this world a better place.

PS: Cherish every moment, life is too small for being petty.
PS 2: Don't kill me.

Your beautiful and all knowing friend.
Little Chris.
:suspish: !

Not only am I scum for you for allegedly chatting about the SK (feel free to refresh your scum read on me, if otherwise)

but you've just went from "talking about SK is scum"

to addressing the SK himself and asking for his "help"!

:SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS:
There is no vigilante in this game so I recoursed to the next available role. I didn't talk about the serial killer I asked from him to kill you. Did you see any theorizing on who the SK is? Thank you for proving me right.
Seriously if you're not a scum I'm willing to retire from playing mafia. Seriously you have my word for it.
Perhaps you can try making a case against rico and getting the rest of us to comply with it rather than asking the serial killer to target them and playing a retirement gambit over it.

That would be the expected behaviour anyway.

linki: Possible MattF. Also possible that they've failed twice and are on their last chance saloon tomorrow night. So either we've lost our vig or our vig is in a bit of trouble.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:12 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Choutas wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Choutas wrote:Dear serial killer

Although we've never met before fate has intertwined our paths. I am sure this will be very bold of me but bare my straightforwardness. I have been having very clear indications that strawhenge/sig/epignosis/rico are scum. By scum I mean scum of the earth. Thugs of the lowest order that need to be exterminated in order for both of our factions to have a decent chance to win this game. Many people call you a serial killer but they are gravely mistaken. You are a white knight upholding justice. Just kill either of those four(or two if you have stacked kills) and make this world a better place.

PS: Cherish every moment, life is too small for being petty.
PS 2: Don't kill me.

Your beautiful and all knowing friend.
Little Chris.
:suspish: !

Not only am I scum for you for allegedly chatting about the SK (feel free to refresh your scum read on me, if otherwise)

but you've just went from "talking about SK is scum"

to addressing the SK himself and asking for his "help"!

:SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS: :SVS:
There is no vigilante in this game so I recoursed to the next available role. I didn't talk about the serial killer I asked from him to kill you. Did you see any theorizing on who the SK is? Thank you for proving me right.
Seriously if you're not a scum I'm willing to retire from playing mafia. Seriously you have my word for it.
Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On) – Kills a player of its choice every even night. If the kill is against a fellow civilian, there is a 50% chance of failure. If it fails to kill three times, it dies.

Granted, can't kill tonight.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:11 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Choutas wrote:Dear serial killer

Although we've never met before fate has intertwined our paths. I am sure this will be very bold of me but bare my straightforwardness. I have been having very clear indications that strawhenge/sig/epignosis/rico are scum. By scum I mean scum of the earth. Thugs of the lowest order that need to be exterminated in order for both of our factions to have a decent chance to win this game. Many people call you a serial killer but they are gravely mistaken. You are a white knight upholding justice. Just kill either of those four(or two if you have stacked kills) and make this world a better place.

PS: Cherish every moment, life is too small for being petty.
PS 2: Don't kill me.

Your beautiful and all knowing friend.
Little Chris.
How bizarre considering I have 3 of those 4 as strong town reads and Epi as very unlikely to be straight scum.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:46 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Eh just spitballing.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:41 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Maybe this means that the lead vote getter was this person;

Girlfriend Is Better – Because of its hypnotizing, persuasive big suit, it cannot be lynched. However, if it is targeted at night with a power, it has a 50% chance of affecting another randomly selected civilian as well.

So second place vote getter goes instead?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:34 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

I think Devin's vote on the Devin wagon looks really bad right now.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:32 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Double you tee eff.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:30 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Sorry I keep calling elohcin a girl...
:suspish:
:shrug:
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:30 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Good I wasn't crazy.

Interesting then that they both have their vote on me. Interesting indeed. Indeed.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:29 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Sorry I keep calling elohcin a girl...
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:27 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Matt F wrote:
Choutas wrote:
Matt F wrote:Choutas, Diiny, Epignosis, MacDougall, Metalmarsh89, Ricochet

All of you are in the thread.

Who should I switch my vote to?
Lynch the scummiest. Champions don't falter.
The scummiest are MacD and Floyd. Neither are going to be lynched today.

Thought I'd have some fun with my vote today, but no takers, so it'll prolly remain on MacD unless someone wants to offer a better choice?
I could easily get lynched today. If I were you I reckon I could get me lynched. Epi reckons when he gets sus on someone they die. Let's see it, he's posting right now. Choutas always loves to tunnel me when he gets a whiff, he's here now. Elohcin isn't here to remove her vote. There are scum here that would love to jump on a mislynch wagon and Devin and Espers are likely to self pres vote. I could easily get lynched and if that's your reason for moving your vote off me it doesn't bode well for your genuine nature or your belief in your own case.

Come at me.

linki: Yeah I saw something in it ... :nicenod:
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:24 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Epignosis wrote:Also, I just want to say you guys misuse the term "WIFOM" a lot a lot. It doesn't mean lying or misleading someone.
Specifically point where you think it's been misused please.
Matt F wrote:Choutas, Diiny, Epignosis, MacDougall, Metalmarsh89, Ricochet

All of you are in the thread.

Who should I switch my vote to?
You switching your vote after saying you unequivocally were not going to means you realise your case against me was wrong I assume?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:12 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

*has a meltdown and self votes*

Now will you unvote me Epi?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:08 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Diiny wrote:I just want to see a coin flip tbh, I'm with macdoug on this one.

Also macdoug I don't think I've ever played with you on RYM but I like your style. :beer:
This confuses me. My vote is on you?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:07 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Epi, what is your stance on Devin and espers right now?

Also, the current tally is shenanigan-central. I think it's moving in the right direction, but more is needed.
:sigh:

I wasn't planning on moving my vote.

I voted Devin to save Sorsha, and I could vote espers to save Devin.

None of this is ideal to me.
You had at least an "eww" to offer with regards to espers. Does that not inspire you?
I've learned over the years that "scummy posts" do not mean "scummy roles."

I remain entrenched in my view that MacDougall has pulled a confidence trick, and I have said before that I don't like false dilemmas.
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by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:59 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

The Floyd

RYMer, totally new to the game of forums Mafia let alone the Syndicate. Has had heaps of "mental shit" going on. Has posted like a noob. Potential scumslips though including this one;
TheFloyd73 wrote:Also, Strawhenge, I find it amusing that we're rivals on here but kinda friendly on RYM.
Very low content otherwise. Hard to read. If you put stock in scumslips he looks bad. Otherwise is a null read.

Suspects elohcin but currently has vote on MattF for what appears to be admitted OMGUS.

Strawhenge

Got caught being busy at the start of the game, which I find a huge scum tell. :goofp:

Once Straw got into the groove he has shown some really genuine townie scum hunting in his posts but again has gone awol so is going to go back to struggling. Tried to do reads and only got through like half of them. Has been guilty of NOT READING THREAD. Pretty solid town read though.

Sig

I actually think Sig looks the best around the LC lynch, but I hate that this guy who I have a real good town read on, just like Strawhenge, entertained MattF's case without a critical eye.

You two, you are very solid town reads. PLEASE CONTRIBUTE MORE.

So I've read these three and it just makes me depressed. All three are town reads to me. One is a noob that I can see easily being mislynched and the other two are not trying enough considering I think they are the towniest players in the game aside from JJJ.

Strawhenge, Sig, get yo fuck in here.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:27 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm about to make some midnight spaghetti. What tomato sauce should I go with?

~ tomato and basil
~ chunky vegetable
~ chargrilled vegetable
~ red chili pepper
Something mushroom something something.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:25 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Isn't it strange that nobody from motel room down has a vote on them? Almost like players started doing reads alphabetically and got hung up on what they saw from players early in the list and have given a pass to those at the bottom. :haha:

Upside down ISO analysis incoming. :goofp:
I brought this up like 13 hours ago dude.
:hugs:
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:20 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Isn't it strange that nobody from motel room down has a vote on them? Almost like players started doing reads alphabetically and got hung up on what they saw from players early in the list and have given a pass to those at the bottom. :haha:

Upside down ISO analysis incoming. :goofp:
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:17 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:But to counter your point Jay, your mafia-partner in TSM, Ricochet, self-voted the day he was lynched.
It's primarily the fact that it's breaking a rule that makes me feel this way, not so much that it was a self-vote. I think MP has been clear all game long that self-voting is not permitted so I am quite certain Devin was well-aware.

If he did break a rule as a part of a baddie strategy he is employing, then I think he did something well outside the spirit of the game. Intentionally breaking a rule to progress any strategy is gross.
Well he could be doing that either way really. Self voting to promote an IDGAF read to people as a townie or a scum. It's a wifom argument really.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:13 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Did I mention that I need a replacement? :feb:
Look, this cannot happen. Replacements aren't coming.

We've already had to modkill rundontwalk and there may be others to follow. I beg that people do not voluntarily throw in the towel this game, regardless of alignment or RL circumstances, unless they absolutely feel they have to. In doing so, the balance of the game will not be upheld. I do not want to have to modkill more players if I don't have to.
I'm less busy than I was when the game started, irl. I know you're out of replacements :feb:
Are you doing that thing where you are just not defending yourself in the hope that town will view your apathy as a town read? Because I don't find that a very townie way of defending yourself.

linki: Does Wilgy just post graphs and stats in every game. I can think of three different effort posts he's made in this game alone but he's not done much with the content he's created on any of the three of them. Just drops it in the thread like a smoke bomb and pisses off.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:00 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Epi, can you please link me to a few games you had a lot of posts in?
I gave some of these to FZ. earlier. Let me see if I can find the post...

Here is the relevant snippet, with links embedded:
Epignosis wrote:WWE: Loud and in charge and a civilian loser. (410 posts)
Death Note: Loud and rational and a civilian loser. (663 posts)

Someone once told me I should try being quiet and listen. I've gone that route a few times and I won my first full game ever as a civilian. Frisky Dingo, with 338 posts.
Thank you for this. I will note that here you have the exact same concerns about serial killer's so there is no inconsistency with your stance on them. You do/did have more content surrounding the serial killer here than in any of those three games though.

Doesn't do much to persuade/dissuade, but your being forthcoming does bode well for you, especially in light of the fact that if I were interested in tunneling you I could have probably done so with these links.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:56 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Tell me what town cooperating looks like.
Transparency about all reads, playing with one's hand revealed to the thread, willingness to work alongside people who are not one's suspects despite the back-of-mind worry about being duped.
I raised an important question about Sorsha four times the day she got lynched and I think I got one response.

I think a large number of people aren't reading the thread.
I would agree with this. I've seen quite a few examples of players posting without correctly reading or possibly not even having read the thread. It's quite frustrating.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:13 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Diiny wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Diiny, explain your vote for Devin immediately.
Was pushing to see if he'd respond. Doesn't look like it, does it? I haven't read the Devin case, all I really remember about him is that he tunnelled me in the early game
He just voted for himself, defying the rules and placing himself 2 votes in the lead, and declared he needed a replacement. Is this when it makes sense to reaction-bait? :suspish:
It would certainly be an ideal time to put a vote on him for self preservation knowing he's not going to defend himself anymore.

Kudos to you Jimmy for being the voice of the voiceless.

CM Punk reference #2 for the day.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:12 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Russtifinko wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I know that. Don't you find it weird that he would just have two browser tabs open on the home page of the site? Like, who does that?
Oh, I didn't see the other arrow until I opened the full image.

That tab also says "View Topic", meaning he is reading one of the many forum topics on this site, possibly even another page in this thread. But also note he has a mysterious second window open.
Fantasy football on Yahoo, if you must know.
Double Linki: hmmm, your llama point is an interesting one. I had been pretty much dismissing the bussing theory of LC, because it seems dumb to sacrifice a player AND give up a NK as a baddie, no matter how much cred you'd get. Your point actually makes me feel LESS sure she's bad, even though for you it apparently makes her look more bad.
No, that's not what I said. Splints and Llama have both pinged me individually. The fact that Llama was on the lynchwagon that day but LC got lynched does still make me feel likely Splints isn't a likely scum, but if Splints is scum, it does mean that LC was probably a bus job. I'm not saying that LC getting lynched makes Splints scummy and I'm not sure where you got that from. :suspish:
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:06 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I was more looking for in the wild examples of you being the overwhelming front runner of SK conversation and then you not being the serial killer.

Epi, I'm willing to be proven wrong about you. I'm not a one track minded tunneling fool. If you can show me some examples in other games that'd be great. Do you have any other games on the forum where you were a rogue?
Oh. In that case, I've been an independent killer one time and got killed Night 2.
Zero search results for "SK", "serial killer", "ind" (indy/independent), and "rogue" in Epi's post history here.

Contrasts with this game nicely at least.
Indeed it does. In fairness epi did only have about 8 or so posts on the subject at the time I read his ISO about the SK and it was later in the game than day 2. It wasn't that he had some it was that nobody else really had any in comparison. But yes, for the purpose of the exercise it's a good look for epi.

Epi, can you please link me to a few games you had a lot of posts in?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:02 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 4] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Russtifinko wrote:
RadicalFuzz wrote:J3 do you find town boring?

Splints the first engagement I had in thread was someone trying to insinuate that I was Mafia. I'm not going to pity you for biting off more than you can chew when you signed up to be a sub or for nobody answerinf a question you asked once. Don't just ask once then get annoyed, ask again, ask until everyone gets so sick of seeing the question that they answer it just to make you stop.
Epi did this earlier and it worked.
fingersplints wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:
Matt F wrote:Before anyone else mentions it, yes, I've voted to lynch a civvie four days in a row now. :ninja:

Sorry town
It's not so much that you've voted for 4 civvies in 4 days that bothers me, personally. I don't really love that everyone you've voted for is dead, but it is still only 2 people so it's not totally damning yet.

I think your Mac theory is completely cockamamie, and I HATE cockamamie theories, as Syndicate players know. However, I think a baddie you would be foolish to pursue it so forcefully and for so long (over 5 pages). I finished reading that exchange and found myself leaning more civ on you than before.

Also, for the record, I don't know Roxy the best, but all her posts have read absolutely classic Roxy to me. The devil-may-care, I-play-my-game-and-no-one-can-stop-me attitude, the tunneling on Matt F, and just general tone seem normal to me.

I suppose I get fingersplints defending her, but as far as I can recall, defending her is literally the only thing fingers has done all game. That looks increasingly shady to me as interesting things happen in thread.
this is as much investment you are going to get out of me. I joined into the game late and in an impossible to catch up spot but was positive. Very nice of me. Then I was largely ignored. No one welcomed me. No one even tried to give me a summary I asked for. No one answered my question if there was a silencer. sorry if you guys wanted more out of me should have interacted with me sooner.

If you read through my posts I defended her and then people questioned my defense of her. It's not me who only wants to bring up Rox but if you are all going to keep questioning it then I'm forced to respond to it
I deserve to die because I missed a vote
fingers, I'm sorry you didn't feel included. If I'd have been more active when you joined, I'd have welcomed you.

Not posting any reads besides "Roxy is good, everyone who accuses her is bad." creates a vicious cycle, though. People will suspect you for not giving reads, and apparently being asked to defend/explain yourself makes you less willing to contribute new content.

Play the game how you want so it's fun for you. I'm not saying you need to even read half of what's been posted. But it would be super duper cool if you could read even just a player or two and tell me and others what you think about them. It'll help us catch baddies, and probably be more fun than just defending yourself about your Roxy read for days on end.
Here's where I'm at with splints.

Llama was an early game scum read for me. If I recall Llama was a third, not as close, lynch candidate on the day Long Con was lynched. This gave me pause at the time because I felt mathematically it was unlikely that there were two scum players on that day close to being lynched.

Splints since coming into the game, has ... been tough to read. Especially with the mod forced flavour posts. There has been a distinct lack of contribution, not in post volume, but in effort per post and he has blamed it on us being mean and not talking to him. I don't really get that line of thinking. If he replaced in, and is a townie, he should at the very least ISO the major lynch candidates of the day and spend a little while formulating reads. Immediately going to the thread and asking them to do the work for you is something I would expect a scum replacement trying to imitate town play to do.

Now if splints is scum, it most definitely opens up the likelihood of LC being bussed to ensure llama wasn't lynched. Possibly due to the perceived value of their roles side by side. This would then mean that the later votes on LC's lynch would almost certainly have scum on them.

I most definitely have an eye on splints right about now.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:57 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Diiny wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Devin asking for a replacement strikes me as odd. If he truly can't play at this point and he's lost interest and is a townie, wouldn't he be more inclined to just sign out and let nature take it's course? Asking for a replacement at this point seems like something somebody with a more minority role would do.
I dunno. In my experience, neener neener *self vote* is usually a town tell. I don't have a large sample of memories of this though since self-voting is usually illegal on RYM. Both of my champs tourny games had one of these incidents and ended in town lynches.
Haterade.

Oh god, haterade.

I told them all, but they didn't listen.
I do think there's a difference between "I'm scum" and "whatever, just lynch me *self vote*"
Is "I'm scum" a scum tell?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:55 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Devin asking for a replacement strikes me as odd. If he truly can't play at this point and he's lost interest and is a townie, wouldn't he be more inclined to just sign out and let nature take it's course? Asking for a replacement at this point seems like something somebody with a more minority role would do.
I dunno. In my experience, neener neener *self vote* is usually a town tell. I don't have a large sample of memories of this though since self-voting is usually illegal on RYM. Both of my champs tourny games had one of these incidents and ended in town lynches.
That's true, fucking around when the lynch is coming for you is a town tell. But actually trying to get replaced (ostensibly by someone who can offer more effort) seems like what someone who doesn't want to entirely alienate their team would do.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:53 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Matt F you should be mod killed for sucking at Mafia. When I flip your penis will shrivel up inside you from embarrassment and it will never come out again.
This is a bit crude. Are you 3 years old? True story...I was working out yesterday and my three year old son came over to me and said, "Mommy look!" I looked over at him and he had pulled his pants down just enough to allow his junk to show. He cupped himself and wiggled a bit and said, "MY PENIS!" We are adults here, right?
MacDougall wrote:Strawhenge... Please read the posts and tell MattF he's an idiot. Please. I am getting desperate here. If I get lynched when it's clear that his explanation is insane I will burn the internet to the ground.
This here sounds suspicious to me. A civilian would give more of a defense I would think. Mac, what kind of defense can you offer rather than just sitting there calling names and telling us how angry you are.

About your vote on Epi and your belief that he is the SK. I think you are wrong. Epi has always had that opinion of the SK whether he was scum, civ, etc. I don't think his opinion makes hiim the SK this game. Plus, pointing a finger at someone else is not really a defense as to why you are NOT the SK.

Posting this with 5 pages to go.

5.5 including link :p Shut up people! :p
Elohcin...

What would you expect me to do as defense if not what I did do? I pointed out the fallacies of his argument and I identified a more likely solution. The swears and stuff are irrelevant I did my absolute best to defend myself, and I did a fine job of it too.

And with your Epi meta rendering my case on him irrelevant, I've got no epi meta to go on so it'd be cool if you could help me find some examples?

That doesn't make the fact that FZ had Epi as top scumspect and then went die die, as well as Epi's abnormal play (according to other syndicators).

Who else do you find suspicious?
Here's proof of what Eloh is saying about me regarding serial killers:
Epignosis wrote:Balance

The inclusion of a second Mafia team or an independent serial killer generally helps balance the game in favor of the Civilians.
I was more looking for in the wild examples of you being the overwhelming front runner of SK conversation and then you not being the serial killer.

Epi, I'm willing to be proven wrong about you. I'm not a one track minded tunneling fool. If you can show me some examples in other games that'd be great. Do you have any other games on the forum where you were a rogue?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:49 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Devin asking for a replacement strikes me as odd. If he truly can't play at this point and he's lost interest and is a townie, wouldn't he be more inclined to just sign out and let nature take it's course? Asking for a replacement at this point seems like something somebody with a more minority role would do.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:47 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Elohcin wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Matt F you should be mod killed for sucking at Mafia. When I flip your penis will shrivel up inside you from embarrassment and it will never come out again.
This is a bit crude. Are you 3 years old? True story...I was working out yesterday and my three year old son came over to me and said, "Mommy look!" I looked over at him and he had pulled his pants down just enough to allow his junk to show. He cupped himself and wiggled a bit and said, "MY PENIS!" We are adults here, right?
MacDougall wrote:Strawhenge... Please read the posts and tell MattF he's an idiot. Please. I am getting desperate here. If I get lynched when it's clear that his explanation is insane I will burn the internet to the ground.
This here sounds suspicious to me. A civilian would give more of a defense I would think. Mac, what kind of defense can you offer rather than just sitting there calling names and telling us how angry you are.

About your vote on Epi and your belief that he is the SK. I think you are wrong. Epi has always had that opinion of the SK whether he was scum, civ, etc. I don't think his opinion makes hiim the SK this game. Plus, pointing a finger at someone else is not really a defense as to why you are NOT the SK.

Posting this with 5 pages to go.

5.5 including link :p Shut up people! :p
Elohcin...

What would you expect me to do as defense if not what I did do? I pointed out the fallacies of his argument and I identified a more likely solution. The swears and stuff are irrelevant I did my absolute best to defend myself, and I did a fine job of it too.

And with your Epi meta rendering my case on him irrelevant, I've got no epi meta to go on so it'd be cool if you could help me find some examples?

That doesn't make the fact that FZ had Epi as top scumspect and then went die die, as well as Epi's abnormal play (according to other syndicators).

Who else do you find suspicious?
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:39 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Okay Jimmy.

by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:54 am
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

I guess people aren't seeing the funny side of my screenshot of epi.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:37 am
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Hey Jimmy, Choutas etc. remember this game?

https://rateyourmusic.com/board_message ... &start=240

Supertown Jimmy hahaha that shit was hilarious.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:36 am
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Guess we'll just lynch you then, save you the worry? :shrug:
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:50 am
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

motel room wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
motel room wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Not surprised with any of that.
Two SK kills, no nightkill?
You heard me.
still don't how to feel about this.
The scum don't kill every night ya fucken.
by MacDougall
Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:09 am
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Black Rock wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I know that. Don't you find it weird that he would just have two browser tabs open on the home page of the site? Like, who does that?
I currently have three, and I have just closed two. How do you play mafia without multiple tabs open?

I deserve to die for being a bad punished lady.
:omg:
by MacDougall
Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:39 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Mac, I know you're having fun but now you're distracting from the hunt. Players who don't know you are going to be forced to judge you, and I doubt that will end well.
Not even so much as a giggle?

Image

linki: :haha:

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