The Syndicate

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:22 pm I feel like trusting with my life now in Ris, Porscha, nook and Lily. Prob in that order.

I thought that maybe ow kill was one to maintain status quo in thread, but just glossing at player list wilgs was there and feels like far more juicier then Outed Wolf there to kill so eeeeeh Im still lost on why ow could die.

I see the mac case and like yeah, could be. But also it isnt like, too much level 0 as a take? Mac isn the only scum so there should be two other people who would agree with that and why???

Explain the read on Risiinq please.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:24 am kinda just feel like mac is a wolf bcuz he's off, i dont really have a super concrete reason and im voting there to just test the waters.

when i get in front of my desk again ill try to do some isos/notetaking, although i do have some work to do

At the time of this post i am pretty sure i was being hard pushed by like at minimum 3 other players. You and I both voted Ender over HK. Both had Visor as town. The best you can articulate on me is that I am "off" but we have had largely the same reads.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:38 pm i have no current problem with visor tbh and i think choosing ender over hk is kinda logical anyways
I have seen nothing disagreeable from Visor and he's far and away my top town.
top town??

I don't understand this reaction contextually.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:52 pm sabi
porscha
lily
outed wolf
achro
neon
mac
drwilgy
santy
hk
jack
esooa
ender
nook

hmmmmm

How did I get from above the null line to so off that you're voting me without making a single post?

You listed wilgy and I in your POE and left out Santy and HK? Why?

@Esooa you're lilypetal's mentor right?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:58 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:54 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:51 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:46 am The... start of today was weird though and I dunno what to make of it
what part?
Repeatedly questioning if the NK had a role was weird cause like... the set up of this game.

I also don't like people basically giving up and saying they need to die or be lock town.
Might've been asking about Flavor actually...I don't remember can't check... but either is weird in this set up

I think it's pretty obvious that wasn't the situation.

@risiinq- what's your current appraisal of the game?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME thoughts on esooa?

@Lilypetal you said i've been doing bad pushes all game, which would you characterise as bad?

@Jackofhearts2005 where's your head at right now?

@hollowkatt you realise this is a mountainous game yes? And there's no possibility visor is anything other than town?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:46 am The... start of today was weird though and I dunno what to make of it

what part?

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:25 am Also, if you vote for me and then the next day are like 'Oh well, it means its one from Achro/Lily then' Im going to come out of my grave and beat y'all to a pulp for having severe skill issue tbh.

you're suggesting that you think that you dying would make the town sleepwalk into achro/lily? why?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:42 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:42 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:01 am
you got some reads for me?
Sure

Sabi Town
Porscha Town
HK Townish

Achro is trending up ish
Santy is trending down ish

Talk to me about the HK read please

risiinq- wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:48 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:56 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:26 am my most confident townread is sabi and i really dont see myself backtracking on that anytime soon.

i think porscha is still rly good and they have nothing going against them at all. these are my most confident townreads fwiw
why is sabi locktown for you
just the way they've been approaching this game; dont think they can as wolf

also

*postcount* (but really)

so just to be clear @Sabiplz you consider yourself out of your wolfrange right?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:01 am

you got some reads for me?

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:23 am wolf Mac town achro dynamic makes visor being a mac kill nonsense
Walk me through it. Who do you think Wolf Mac kills from your current town reads instead of OW? We'll keep the suspected people as possible mac partners.

Wolf Mac killing townreads is presumptive enough but in any world where I'm wolf and you're town killing the only other person putting you in check isn't something I'd condone. I'd just kill you. I have no doctors to dodge. You're the biggest problem. Bye bye. Probs push visor today lol.

wolf Mac town achro dynamic makes visor being a mac kill nonsense

I'm retiring from mafia soon. I have very waning wim. I'll try to do stuff but I've lost the spirit for it tbh.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:03 am a nice calm exercise? christ I'm not having a meltdown achro lol.
Yeah but you did say you aren't discussing Esooa because of how they would react as if it matters at all. It feels like you are declining to engage. So I am trying to be a safe space for you to engage without being AtE'd at. I don't even care if you disagree with all of my reads or go 'achro is lock wolf' again, but I need to find your pulse and so far I can't. If you're wolf I don't think you will be able to fool me by me engaging with you, and as town I hope I can find you. So this does nothing but benefit me.

if I was a wolf I could fool you achro lol

I'll do your thing later I'm too busy

a nice calm exercise? christ I'm not having a meltdown achro lol.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:53 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:51 pm Mac, do you feel you are struggling this game?
yeah
Well, let's take a look at some players we've stored away for a bit. Obviously I suspect you and have been clear about why. What do you think of, say, Porscha's handling of you?

annoying but town lol

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:50 pm maybe hk jack neon nanook just solves the game
I dont think nook is it either. I really vibed and see them as towny really thinking they had something condemning/iffy about hk with their relative volume tell on hk.

Tho I could def see one in Neon/Jack flipping wolf. Like when i think about it its likely that one of the slots that is going UTR is just scum

Thoughts about Esooa?

lol if I say my thoughts I'll just get insulted by her

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:51 pm Mac, do you feel you are struggling this game?

yeah

maybe hk jack neon nanook just solves the game

sabi might have less ate simply due to not being sussed tbh

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:43 pm Oh, well I 1000% disagree with that take. To me they feel entirely different. A lot less AtE, and their pushes are much stronger here.

A lot less ATE towards you maybe. I was literally just told to fuck off and told I was hated.

I've only seen sabi wolf in that game and a turbo tho personally.

I know that sabi endgamed and won on another site a few weeks ago.

Tbh I thought day 1 in the game sabi hammered themselves was pretty similar to their play here.

I also don't think visor strongly scumread you towards the end either.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:28 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:23 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:22 pm I feel like trusting with my life now in Ris, Porscha, nook and Lily. Prob in that order.

I thought that maybe ow kill was one to maintain status quo in thread, but just glossing at player list wilgs was there and feels like far more juicier then Outed Wolf there to kill so eeeeeh Im still lost on why ow could die.

I see the mac case and like yeah, could be. But also it isnt like, too much level 0 as a take? Mac isn the only scum so there should be two other people who would agree with that and why???
Why does this kill make sense for me?
I say it is level 0 cause you were one of the few people that put them as top town. Like, a W!Mac would expect people to also see that ow was obvtowning or something and kill there. Feel like its a basic train of thought and even then completely ignores you having two more partners. So I feel that there should be something more to it
I townread visor because he shared the bulk of my reads. Agreed that ender was wolfier than HK. Agreed that lily was scummy. Agreed that achro was scummy. I was right.
(at the time you made that call on visor you had me as town)

I know that. The fact that I had reevaluated that doesn't mean we werent reading the game similarly earlier. Similar reading of the game is something to townread someone for regardless of whether it is right or wrong.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:30 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:28 pm If Hk is scum, Outed Wolf EoD looked like, EXTREMELY paired to him . Killing there in a W!Hk doesnt make much sense woweee
HK is entering d2 assuming they die 100% of the time. The NK is for the benefit of the other 2 wolves not HK.
Unless the team is hk/Lily/Achro lr something like that I kinda doubt it. And it annoys me cuz I dont like hk approach in my slot at all oof

what do you mean you doubt it? I'm saying that if HK is mafia NKA doesn't apply to him.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:28 pm If Hk is scum, Outed Wolf EoD looked like, EXTREMELY paired to him . Killing there in a W!Hk doesnt make much sense woweee

HK is entering d2 assuming they die 100% of the time. The NK is for the benefit of the other 2 wolves not HK.

If you all want to chop me here it'd be game theme appropriate so I'll try not to be mad.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:23 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:22 pm I feel like trusting with my life now in Ris, Porscha, nook and Lily. Prob in that order.

I thought that maybe ow kill was one to maintain status quo in thread, but just glossing at player list wilgs was there and feels like far more juicier then Outed Wolf there to kill so eeeeeh Im still lost on why ow could die.

I see the mac case and like yeah, could be. But also it isnt like, too much level 0 as a take? Mac isn the only scum so there should be two other people who would agree with that and why???
Why does this kill make sense for me?
I say it is level 0 cause you were one of the few people that put them as top town. Like, a W!Mac would expect people to also see that ow was obvtowning or something and kill there. Feel like its a basic train of thought and even then completely ignores you having two more partners. So I feel that there should be something more to it

I townread visor because he shared the bulk of my reads. Agreed that ender was wolfier than HK. Agreed that lily was scummy. Agreed that achro was scummy. I was right.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:21 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:18 pm Mac not seeing sabi obvtowning is pinging me too. So I could prob see them as wolf tbfh.
I think you're all just looking at sabi as a polarised player and assuming sabi can't make this many posts as mafia.

Outside of sbpc what makes sabi town exactly?
Its not the high post count. Its like their broad amount of subjects that they talked about like... Freely? And there were a lot of instances that I was like 'yeh, I like were sabi question goes'.
Also them having a stale/bad read on Achro and me its just sabi being paranoid IMO. That even if its annoys me like, it makes sense from a train of thoughts they are having? Idk

You think sabi as mafia can't interject on a range of subjects?

Can you show me some examples of questions you liked?

Visor wasn't scumreading me. He was my top town. I only ever make this kill if visor's other reads are right.

So you must think my partners are in santy/lily/achro right?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:22 pm I feel like trusting with my life now in Ris, Porscha, nook and Lily. Prob in that order.

I thought that maybe ow kill was one to maintain status quo in thread, but just glossing at player list wilgs was there and feels like far more juicier then Outed Wolf there to kill so eeeeeh Im still lost on why ow could die.

I see the mac case and like yeah, could be. But also it isnt like, too much level 0 as a take? Mac isn the only scum so there should be two other people who would agree with that and why???

Why does this kill make sense for me?

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:14 pm @MacDougall why is santy never maf here?

When I read his posts I sense no agenda.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:18 pm Mac not seeing sabi obvtowning is pinging me too. So I could prob see them as wolf tbfh.

I think you're all just looking at sabi as a polarised player and assuming sabi can't make this many posts as mafia.

Outside of sbpc what makes sabi town exactly?

I'm really sorry for upsetting ppl all the time.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:00 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:55 pm Just rereading the day so far and Sabi is naked mafia.
What the fuck

How am I a fucking wolf?
Can you maybe not swear at me for playing a mafia game?
Fuck off

Why am I a fucking wolf

I'm just gonna come back later. Ciao.

Sabi crumbling in real time from one scumread. Love to see it.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:00 pm Mac is just lol catting

I am doing no such thing.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:55 pm Just rereading the day so far and Sabi is naked mafia.
What the fuck

How am I a fucking wolf?

Can you maybe not swear at me for playing a mafia game?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:57 pm as in there's no reason to push me as mafia, you push me as "for the good of the thread" and everyone nods and goes "yeah makes sense" and votes me. Instead pushing HK = wolf makes people wonder about me and wonder about you.

well that too

I don't think santy is ever mafia. Lily and Achro sound ok this day. Sorry bout the omgus.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:55 pm I think HK is also naked mafia now.
I think I don't particularly care what you think

Lol ok.

My d1 reads are probably just bad.

I think HK is also naked mafia now.

Just rereading the day so far and Sabi is naked mafia.

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