The Syndicate

@TonyStarkPrime I kinda think you are town. If you really think I'm mafia we can talk about it tomorrow but if you look at my vote history and my iso I doubt that read will survive.

I am done arguing about Pyxxy. They aren't towny enough to justify it. I just have worlds in my head that need solving and his slot isn't critical to them. I think Wilgy is every bit as sus as Pyxxy but whatever.

I will be just taking WWA, Porscha and Neon as town for the rest of the game tho. So do with that what you will.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:44 pm sorry I'm on the road heading to an expo so yeh...

I strongly suggest wilgy is the vote to make if only because if he was town and pyxxy mafia the wolves would have sheeped me. Think about that.
I've been trying to get people to look at pyxxy for literal days, Mac
If pyxxy ISN'T a wolf then why the heck is nobody even giving reads on him except for Neon, Porscha and me? I have heard nobody say they think he's super towny for anything, just radio silence.

Whatever I'll vote Pyxxy here and if they flip town gl.

Him saying why is nobody sussing me is a fine thought and worth answering. Seanzie for one was adamantly tunneling me yesterday and doesn't care about me cratering today. Wilgy not sussing me is also weird.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:45 pm Probably nothing funnier than mac and tsp who are both SR'ing each other both voting the same wagon

Since when was TSP scumreading me?

sorry I'm on the road heading to an expo so yeh...

I strongly suggest wilgy is the vote to make if only because if he was town and pyxxy mafia the wolves would have sheeped me. Think about that.

I am not being listened to in this game and it pains me.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:35 am Kate had SVS dead to absolute rights the last game they both played. Remember? Literally saw through her like she was a complete noob. It was godly.

Kate will not be wrong on SVS if she is town. If SVS is mafia Kate is not town Kate is mafia.

Kate MAYBE pocketing SVS. But I would expect SVS to have at least humoured the thought given the situation we find ourselves in.

They are either wolves or they are town with absolutely disgustingly good meta reads on each other. If they are t/w I will be ... mildly annoyed at the town between them lol.

But seriously I am very confident it's not t/t.

The more I talk the more I am convincing myself especially that Nutella only dies over 1 of them if they are both mafia tbh. We are on day 3 and have had SVS and Kate mason town locking each other. Kate who BREAKS wolf teams with her soul reads. Zero wolf flips and both alive?
You mean not w/w? You said not t/t but it sounds like you wee implying they are, just trying to make sure I understood right

Not t/w

Why is Kate voting Pyxxy over Dennis?

@S~V~S are you absolutely sure Kate is town?

Kate had SVS dead to absolute rights the last game they both played. Remember? Literally saw through her like she was a complete noob. It was godly.

Kate will not be wrong on SVS if she is town. If SVS is mafia Kate is not town Kate is mafia.

Kate MAYBE pocketing SVS. But I would expect SVS to have at least humoured the thought given the situation we find ourselves in.

They are either wolves or they are town with absolutely disgustingly good meta reads on each other. If they are t/w I will be ... mildly annoyed at the town between them lol.

But seriously I am very confident it's not t/t.

The more I talk the more I am convincing myself especially that Nutella only dies over 1 of them if they are both mafia tbh. We are on day 3 and have had SVS and Kate mason town locking each other. Kate who BREAKS wolf teams with her soul reads. Zero wolf flips and both alive?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:18 am For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.
ah that's the perspective you're using...... I always feel like it's possible to misread and even god reads can slip from the hands of heaven (be wrong) so I didn't actually consider that it's 99.99% likely they are accurate in the reciprocal read. still not sure I really believe that but I understand how you were thinking

If you think they can be wrong on each other then the read is they are w/w because neither are remotely entertaining the likelihood on day 3 with 0 dead wolves.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:03 am Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.
D2 sheep.

Town please just listen to me. I am seeing the game clear because I ignored it for 2 days while the wolves sat in here weaving webs of bs around your heads.
maybe weaving webs of lies can apply to your poe in kate/svs or something but idk about wilgy who hardly talked lol

and that entire analysis hinges on why nutella was nk'd when nutella was obv town the night before she got killed. it's impossible to know why she was nk'd, especially to go so far as to say for certain a specific read was why she was nk'd to create this entire world. is there a specific reason you have chosen to see this exact timeline

Nonsense Wilgy has come up with a whole bunch of baseless bogus nonsense since I was gone and it's the only reason anyone is fucking townreading him.

Do you think I'm mafia?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:29 pm Falcon Kate TSP is the new hotness let's go
Actually I changed my mind again i think TSP might be ok
Need to see more to really decide
Would yeet pyxxy tho
Might yeet Kate idk
Might yeet Mac cause my vote's there but I still prefer his posts over pyxxy's
I think falcon's posting was OK by the end of yesterday

This post mid day 2 is quite literally the first mention WWA makes of Pyxxy. For someone with this developed of a scumread and the volume of posts they have I find it quite remarkable.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:18 am I think pyxxy is mafia because of his last game with me where I also thought he was mafia and he was mafia

I know you are a whip smart human being and I know that you know false equivalences like this are not persuasive nor valid.

Show me how they are similar?

Explain why Pyxxy is hard townreading you under this pressure instead of trying to dome you?

For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:15 am Ok I'm almost at Stonehenge so ttyl
I can either come back and powerwolf or I can sit back and let you guys vote the wrong wagon again

This is very wolfy ate. Why are you so sure Pyxxy is mafia?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:02 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:25 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:54 pm @MacDougall what I was more trying to ask is what do you find about SVS that is scummy because in Cosmere she was mostly afk wolfing after D1/D2 (iirc) and I didn't find her in my spec chat escapades with Scotty so I feel like I'm down to sr her being normal because I don't have a better baseline

@Dennis feel free to chime in here too
I prolly have almost as many posts here as I did there already lol

But Cosmere wasn’t the norm for me, I had a death in the family and was totally AFK for 4 days then only really answered my @s and maybe one or two posts a day. Robyn carried me.

So that game is a bad baseline to use for me tbh
"So that game is a bad baseline to use for me tbh"
That's what I was trying to say, I could have been clearer, sorry. Didn't want you to have to reexplain I remembered the situation. Sorry again.

If Pyxxy is mafia it is in a very specific world where SVS is nearly lock mafia. The other one probably would be TSP or ... again ... Dr fucken Wilgy.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:46 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:35 am Waiting for the "haha no you're definitely a wolf PR" rebuttal like I usually get
If I'm lucky it'll actually stir up something spicy
Haha no you're definitely a wolf PR

Neon why are you voting the counterwagon to someone you called a wolf PR?

Falcon ended d1 voting Wilgy and Falcon was not present. If Neon is town that is why Wilgy voted out Falcon and not Neon. Easier and more beneficial for his game long term.

If Pyxxy is mafia. Wilgy is voting Porscha over him ergo is almost certainly a teammate.
Wilgy is also a wolf in world's without Pyxxy. Such as with WWA who is clearly different to Pyxxy.
Wilgy is a wolf in Neon wolf worlds due to his Falcon vote.

Wilgy is mafia in every world I think is valid with the sole exception of Kate/SVS+1 world. That is the only word he might not be and he still CAN be.

Wilgy voting town Falcon is egregious for him because his default town mode is that he views Falcon as a confusing enigma and leaves him alone. Falcon dances in front of town Wilgy and Wilgy just sits there like an old hound who cbf dealing with it. In this game he wolfread Falcon out the gate then votes Falcon at eod d2 over Neon.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:00 am Okay wagonomics breakdown.

Day 1 confirmed as t/t wagons increases chance of wolves being off wagon.

Kate and Wilgy cross vanity voting off wagon heavily implies a wolf between them. Confirmed town Falcon voting Wilgy. Confirmed town Lilypetal voting me.

If Kate is town Wilgy is mafia. Kate should be pushing Wilgy. Why is she not? Wilgy is probably mafia but Kate's actions are questionable too. Further argument for my dichotomy theory.

Nutella vote is 2 confirmed town to me and TSP. Is this wagon pure? Why would it be? Why would wolves avoid voting Nutella and instead push Rondo unless they were outside the vote entirely?

Rondo wagon is not resolved. 3 living slots voting there.

Day 2 I again suspect is t/t. If Neon is a wolf why not cross vote? If Neon is a wolf there are mafia, probably 2 mafia voting Falcon and Neon wagon is probably clean. Neon as town has a clear solve. Why is Neon not voting those pushing them? If Neon is mafia Wilgy is again a probable hit.

Everywhere I look Wilgy is mafia. Just vote out Wilgy.

Wilgy does not vote Falcon and Porscha in this game if he is town. Trust me.

So this is at top of page.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:03 am Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

D2 sheep.

Town please just listen to me. I am seeing the game clear because I ignored it for 2 days while the wolves sat in here weaving webs of bs around your heads.

Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

Okay wagonomics breakdown.

Day 1 confirmed as t/t wagons increases chance of wolves being off wagon.

Kate and Wilgy cross vanity voting off wagon heavily implies a wolf between them. Confirmed town Falcon voting Wilgy. Confirmed town Lilypetal voting me.

If Kate is town Wilgy is mafia. Kate should be pushing Wilgy. Why is she not? Wilgy is probably mafia but Kate's actions are questionable too. Further argument for my dichotomy theory.

Nutella vote is 2 confirmed town to me and TSP. Is this wagon pure? Why would it be? Why would wolves avoid voting Nutella and instead push Rondo unless they were outside the vote entirely?

Rondo wagon is not resolved. 3 living slots voting there.

Day 2 I again suspect is t/t. If Neon is a wolf why not cross vote? If Neon is a wolf there are mafia, probably 2 mafia voting Falcon and Neon wagon is probably clean. Neon as town has a clear solve. Why is Neon not voting those pushing them? If Neon is mafia Wilgy is again a probable hit.

Everywhere I look Wilgy is mafia. Just vote out Wilgy.

Wilgy does not vote Falcon and Porscha in this game if he is town. Trust me.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:00 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:00 pm

Sheep me today or vote me out and sheep me tomorrow. Y'all are savagely in need of it.

I will no longer respect you as human beings if you don't.

All town vote on Wilgy now.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Ugh God there's actually a world here where there is not a single vote on mafia. I hate these wagons. Why is nobody voting Wilgy and Dennis?

If there is ever a wolf between Porscha and Neon it is Neon every time btw but I don't think it's either.

@Porscha @Neon move ur vote.

@Seanzie @DrWilgy in what universe are we in Porscha is deepwolf fooling the town game? Porscha has never come close to hitting scum notes she'd be hitting here. You both know that. What gives?

Wilgy is such a wolf btw just saying.

I think there is one between Sean and Wilgy and I'd lean like 80% Wilgy over Sean.

One or two between Kate/SVS/WWA/Dennis. Kate and SVS shielding each other likely makes them same alignment. I don't see Kate or SVS as being same to WWA or Dennis. WWA and Dennis I don't have a comment on their sameness.

Porscha and Neon are probably just both town. Contextually in this analysis TSP is just a wildcard. I wish he would just clear himself by solving the game for me but until then I have to just scumread him sadly.

I think in Wilgy wolf worlds we are more likely in WWA w and Kate/SVS t worlds. In Seanzie w worlds we are probably in Kate/SVS w world.

Kate/SVS/Seanzie
or
WWA/Wilgy/Dennis

Feels like the options before us to me.

@Kate @S~V~S why are you letting Dennis skate after badgering him so much before? How is he ever town here?

I see Dennis has yet to vote. I consider that outing.

Pick the wolf between Seanzie and Wilgy.

I think WWA is a wolf but i would actually prefer we go to the above 3 right now simply due to WWA level of effort and my earlier vibe read.

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Pyxxy in no way shape or form should be leading the votes today.

Voting Porscha is outing there is a very very firm dichotomy between Wilgy and Seanzie for that vote and neither of them have a single vote. What are we actually all doing here?

Btw Nutella was one of the only people townreading Pyxxy and wolfread WWA.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:39 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:27 am mac what do you think of tsp
Don't like. Lean wolf. Think the points they are making that are critical of town play have been hypocritical and largely bogus.
I swear youre actually just reversing all the reads you were pursuing yesterday for the sake of reversing them

That is correct.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:39 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:27 am mac what do you think of tsp
Don't like. Lean wolf. Think the points they are making that are critical of town play have been hypocritical and largely bogus.
i don't believe you

yes you do it's very believable u fuckin wolf

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:27 am mac what do you think of tsp

Don't like. Lean wolf. Think the points they are making that are critical of town play have been hypocritical and largely bogus.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:08 am I think Wilgy is town so that's like cool but also annoying cause this is really insightful and would've helped when town was eating itself alive the last 2 days.

Like I'm not sure we've even wagoned a wolf this game

I don't think he's town. He's finally gotten active after town stumbled for 2 days and is immediately pushing false dichotomies and has a ton of gross miselim agenda.

I think he's a wolf and I'm quite confident in it at present. I already had him as soft different to Falcon. Wilgy pushed Falcon and I was giving him credit for it because he has shown to have something of a Falcon radar before but given Falcon flipped town I think that alone is outing for him.

I think WWA Wilgy and Dennis would be my top scum atm.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:59 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:34 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:23 pm Actually I want to know what @MacDougall has to say, too, since he also had falcon as scum and I'm pretty sure he tried to convince me of it
I am voting you and I am not unvoting you.
That's fine but that still doesn't change my read that Neon is town

Also this is the first read on me today that indicates a lack of TMI on me so congrats I guess
Explain how your Neon read is relevant to the post you're quoting.
Weren't you trying to chop all three of the wagoned peeps yesterday? Falcon, Kate and Neon? Or am I misremembering on Neon?
I'm saying I'm not budging my opinion that the wagons were likely all town and wolves did not give a shit who flipped yesterday.

I made some derby reaction test read on Neon but at no point was I really trying to get them chopped. Nor Falcon actually. To try to hold me accountable for Falcon going over is a joke. I wasn't even around when his wagon picked up.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:34 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:23 pm Actually I want to know what @MacDougall has to say, too, since he also had falcon as scum and I'm pretty sure he tried to convince me of it
I am voting you and I am not unvoting you.
That's fine but that still doesn't change my read that Neon is town

Also this is the first read on me today that indicates a lack of TMI on me so congrats I guess

Explain how your Neon read is relevant to the post you're quoting.

I am inverting my Kate and SVS read to lock town simply because I'm alive with them still so the wolves must enjoy that. Good luck wolves.

Nutella wanted WWA dead. Then came out today trying to blame me for Falcon's death even though I was pushing SVS and Kate near exclusively and Nutella and I were basically masons so why in fuck would I kill her? They're just mafia. Kill them.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:23 pm Actually I want to know what @MacDougall has to say, too, since he also had falcon as scum and I'm pretty sure he tried to convince me of it

I am voting you and I am not unvoting you.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:38 pm What's the reads on Neon v Pyxxy?

Why hasn't Mac solved the game?

Kinda think I have but everyone is suffering a collective psychosis.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:22 pm Here comes the neon save. I think we found the hit.

I am town and I think Neon is town.

[VOTE: kate] aubergine

namaste

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