The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:28 pm
Myo wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:47 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 3:51 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Eh, I feel that this deserves a little push-back. Couching your own opinions in someone else's reasoning strikes me as creating
'distance' between yourself and your actions. The follow-up feels warranted to get Jackofhearts2005's actual thoughts/reasoning without basing it on outside logic that he's not claiming as his own.
I think this is a fair take.

I don’t suspect Soneji for asking me to clarify or think it was pointless.

HOLY FUCK CODE RED THIS IS NOT A DRILL JACK IS ACTUALLY SCUM

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:28 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:24 pm Sloonei/Mac/Nutella voting triumvirate on Long Con is such big dick energy though. All we need is Jack and Nanook and we can summon the fucking megazord.
#BDT
BirdDickTeeth?

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[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] we must summon the Megazord!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:20 pm Soneji, Dragomir/nutella, and Long Con have multiple votes.

Does anybody town read any of those players?
Nutella is lock lock lock lock lock town. The other two are specifically the two players that I wanted to be the focus of D1 in my path forward post. Which was always going to happen. Because even though people don't actually listen to me, they still do what I want.
is there a real reason for that nutella read?

Yes because we have mind melded and that only happens when we are both town.

Sloonei/Mac/Nutella voting triumvirate on Long Con is such big dick energy though. All we need is Jack and Nanook and we can summon the fucking megazord.

You guys could do something historic and lynch me while I'm present and other people are around. That's literally never happened from memory. Always get lynched while I'm asleep or alone in the thread. I'd be okay with it just so we could make this game memorable for a reason.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:20 pm Soneji, Dragomir/nutella, and Long Con have multiple votes.

Does anybody town read any of those players?

Nutella is lock lock lock lock lock town. The other two are specifically the two players that I wanted to be the focus of D1 in my path forward post. Which was always going to happen. Because even though people don't actually listen to me, they still do what I want.

I think what we have here is what happens when people that aren't used to it experience the full MacDougall and cannot tolerate the abundance of joy and happiness that comes from being force embraced by my primeval energy.

Mac does not post badly. It is not a thing that is possible. All of my posts have at least some redeeming feature to them. Because I myself am a being that produces extreme amounts of positive creative energy into the cosmos. And frankly in this game you guys are on the good Mac shit.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:10 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:00 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:52 pm @nutella don't you think that what Sloonei is doing is actually scummy? What the fuck is the point of all this shit on page 7? This is usually a scum tell for Jay. Is it not for Sloonei?
You seemed just fine with the idea that these last two hours were good enough for a primary focus on some players, yet Sloonei is bad for doing ISOs atm? This day phase has been rather unproductive, it's not like Sloonei is doing this in the midst of a high energy EoD with strong lynch candidates. If anything the analysis could provide us with a good candidate.
If you are so bothered by my obnoxiousness you should just stop interacting with me for a while. What you're doing right now is putting coins in the pis you off machine buddy.
You seem very insulted by my comment, was it truly you being a snowflake in this situation? Mafia works just fine for me because I can move past my dislike of a player/posting style to play the game, and I'm not about to stay quiet when you're pushing suspicion I disagree with.
I'm just giving you nice and kind advice Soneji. It seems like all I have to do is move my fingers across my keyboard arbitrarily tapping buttons and hey presto Soneji has a whinge at me.
I don't let up on people if they continue to post badly

You're putting coins in the wrong machine this time friendicus.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:06 pm Pretty sure we have scum Sloonei with us. Might as well end the game because nobody will believe me. Especially Nutella who perpetually lives in Sloonei's pocket.
That last sentence just isn't even close to any reality we've ever lived in.
Fuck off it is so lol.

It's just she's usually right.
No I'm paranoid about sloonei at some point every game lol

Well that may be so but you dismiss my suspicion towards him out of hand 100% of the time I bring it up so to me it doesn't feel that way.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:06 pm Pretty sure we have scum Sloonei with us. Might as well end the game because nobody will believe me. Especially Nutella who perpetually lives in Sloonei's pocket.
That last sentence just isn't even close to any reality we've ever lived in.

Fuck off it is so lol.

It's just she's usually right.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:00 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:52 pm @nutella don't you think that what Sloonei is doing is actually scummy? What the fuck is the point of all this shit on page 7? This is usually a scum tell for Jay. Is it not for Sloonei?
You seemed just fine with the idea that these last two hours were good enough for a primary focus on some players, yet Sloonei is bad for doing ISOs atm? This day phase has been rather unproductive, it's not like Sloonei is doing this in the midst of a high energy EoD with strong lynch candidates. If anything the analysis could provide us with a good candidate.
If you are so bothered by my obnoxiousness you should just stop interacting with me for a while. What you're doing right now is putting coins in the pis you off machine buddy.
You seem very insulted by my comment, was it truly you being a snowflake in this situation? Mafia works just fine for me because I can move past my dislike of a player/posting style to play the game, and I'm not about to stay quiet when you're pushing suspicion I disagree with.

I'm just giving you nice and kind advice Soneji. It seems like all I have to do is move my fingers across my keyboard arbitrarily tapping buttons and hey presto Soneji has a whinge at me.

Pretty sure we have scum Sloonei with us. Might as well end the game because nobody will believe me. Especially Nutella who perpetually lives in Sloonei's pocket.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:52 pm @nutella don't you think that what Sloonei is doing is actually scummy? What the fuck is the point of all this shit on page 7? This is usually a scum tell for Jay. Is it not for Sloonei?
You seemed just fine with the idea that these last two hours were good enough for a primary focus on some players, yet Sloonei is bad for doing ISOs atm? This day phase has been rather unproductive, it's not like Sloonei is doing this in the midst of a high energy EoD with strong lynch candidates. If anything the analysis could provide us with a good candidate.

If you are so bothered by my obnoxiousness you should just stop interacting with me for a while. What you're doing right now is putting coins in the pis you off machine buddy.

Was mislynched in the turbo day 1. Omens lol.

[mention]nutella[/mention] don't you think that what Sloonei is doing is actually scummy? What the fuck is the point of all this shit on page 7? This is usually a scum tell for Jay. Is it not for Sloonei?

Nutella is so scared of Mac that we have mind melded constantly this game and she still thinks I'm sketchy and weird. That's respect right there.

So I'm just gonna tunnel LC til EOD. If anyone wants to do that I'm down. Otherwise you're wrong and my enemy.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:40 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:35 pm I think Soneji is fake tunneling me because he thinks it'll be town read versus getting off the read which is actually what an actual town would do at this point given that he initially suspected me for something that he has actually revealed is a totally reasonable observation I made.
I can tell playing with you is going to be a constant test of my patience.
Maybe mafia just generally is not the game for you snowflake boi.
I've only been playing it for seven years, on many sites

I just don't care for the obnoxious.

I'm far from obnoxious. I am just cantankerous. Perhaps bombastic. And a little bit eccentric.

Yeah I don't really want to lynch Soneji. I was literally the person who asked him to come play a game here.

Hey look Soneji has three votes!

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:35 pm I think Soneji is fake tunneling me because he thinks it'll be town read versus getting off the read which is actually what an actual town would do at this point given that he initially suspected me for something that he has actually revealed is a totally reasonable observation I made.
I can tell playing with you is going to be a constant test of my patience.

Maybe mafia just generally is not the game for you snowflake boi.

Legacy reads:

ColinIsCool - Scum
Dragonella- Lock town
Jackofhearts2005 - Town
JiwonMeganPark - Town
Long Con - Town
MacDougall - Scum
motobot - Town
Myo - Town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Scum
ig - Scum
Sloonei - Scum
Soneji - Scum
Spacedaisy - Scum
tedxtr - Scum

Sloonei I still haven't pooped so you should unvote me til I poop.

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:36 pm Didn't we just mislynch Mac like D1 in a game?

Also Nutella is here. Hey Nutella.

It's become a fairly common thing to be honest. I think people think they have meta on me but they don't realise that I genuinely have multiple personalities.

Lynching me on day 1 on this the day of my daughter's wedding would be a pretty bad lynch because I'm going to get night killed on night 1 probably anyway.

I think Soneji is fake tunneling me because he thinks it'll be town read versus getting off the read which is actually what an actual town would do at this point given that he initially suspected me for something that he has actually revealed is a totally reasonable observation I made.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:25 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:09 pm When I made the chain of lynches post I thought to myself "this is suspicious to noobs". So for Soneji to be the one to suspect and then vote me for it is both a surprise and also scummy.
The post is bad in general Mac if you have any intention of actually following that plan. Nor is my vote on you solely for that post, but your bad LC policy lynch push and overall bad feel for this town leader act you've been putting on.
I have a long and storied history of LC interaction that you do not have. So you shouldn't be actually judging that with any actual vigor.

The town lead act I've been putting on was an experiment where I decided to lay out a path to victory that wins the game a lot expecting people to think it sucks and I'm bad for it but I did it anyway because I like the catharsis of watching people ignore good advice and follow their noses instead. It makes me feel better and superior as a person.
is it like a spec chat tunnel where like you can point to it at the end if it would have been right or is it just totally tongue in cheek?

I mean, I actually generally think that if we broadly followed the roadmap the wolves would find the game more difficult than otherwise unless they were specifically like Myo, Motobot, Jiwon or something. But certainly more the former than the latter. I am not trolling in any way aside from not really expecting anyone to actually listen to me.

Shouldn't have had that coffee.

Oh no I need to poop! Fuck.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:14 pm ...Mac is playing this game with a very weird energy lol but I should keep to my promise of returning his favor and just assume he's town
You already failed and have disappointed me extremely.
Dude I'm not here to take your tests I'm here to come to the same conclusions you come to about people but for entirely different reasons.
You promised me lock town on me and your first interaction with me was a pressure question. I've been betrayed.
who said it was pressure? I didn't understand the point behind it and you refused to explain

You guess why I said it and you'll be correct at least 4 in 5 times I'd say.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:19 pm I have a question, is anybody pooping right now? Cuz insta lock wolf right there.
The game is over 24 hours old now, surely we're allowed to poop.

wait, did the pooper actually end up being scum in that game? I didn't follow past day 1

Yep. Also they didn't poop.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:09 pm When I made the chain of lynches post I thought to myself "this is suspicious to noobs". So for Soneji to be the one to suspect and then vote me for it is both a surprise and also scummy.
The post is bad in general Mac if you have any intention of actually following that plan. Nor is my vote on you solely for that post, but your bad LC policy lynch push and overall bad feel for this town leader act you've been putting on.

I have a long and storied history of LC interaction that you do not have. So you shouldn't be actually judging that with any actual vigor.

The town lead act I've been putting on was an experiment where I decided to lay out a path to victory that wins the game a lot expecting people to think it sucks and I'm bad for it but I did it anyway because I like the catharsis of watching people ignore good advice and follow their noses instead. It makes me feel better and superior as a person.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:14 pm ...Mac is playing this game with a very weird energy lol but I should keep to my promise of returning his favor and just assume he's town
You already failed and have disappointed me extremely.
Dude I'm not here to take your tests I'm here to come to the same conclusions you come to about people but for entirely different reasons.

You promised me lock town on me and your first interaction with me was a pressure question. I've been betrayed.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:10 pm @Soneji how does there being 2 hours before end of day prevent us from making our focus the pool of players I mentioned?
2 hours of 48 is far from "the primary focus of d1" and is a limited time for discussion when not everyone is going to be on. You're trying to act a town leader but it's laughably bad.

Alright, lead the way Soneji.

Also bout to play a Turbo on MU so I'm bout to juggle.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:17 pm What you might be viewing as vague irritation is just my general mannerism, and probably how my sarcasm can come off. I'm a prickly sort. I get more irritated at a lack of good content as town, then as randing scum in this game state.

So do you believe that my read on you was genuine then?

For the record. The "weird energy" read belongs to me on Soneji.

I have a question, is anybody pooping right now? Cuz insta lock wolf right there.

For the record! My energy composition right now is probably off because the ingredients are:

1 part MU champs spec chat influence
1 part I played three games of video mafia yesterday influence
1 part MacDougall's usual playstyle
1 part I've been off my game lately and realising that I actually can't read people as good as I thought I could
1 part this game has been kinda slow and I am having to force the reads a little bit

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:14 pm ...Mac is playing this game with a very weird energy lol but I should keep to my promise of returning his favor and just assume he's town

You already failed and have disappointed me extremely.

If this is going to be one of those games where Mac bluntly says stuff like "Sloonei should be lynched if he's alive by day 3" and it becomes a big hoo-ha can we fast forward through the bullshit and just separate into the "Mac is bad" and "Mac is not bad" lines right now so I can work out whether I should bother putting energy into this game?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:58 pm
Day 3 lynch: If we haven't hit fur at this point lynch Sloonei without thinking twice.

:fry narrowed eyes emoji:

why

You know the answer to that Nutella.

[mention]Soneji[/mention] how does there being 2 hours before end of day prevent us from making our focus the pool of players I mentioned?

When I made the chain of lynches post I thought to myself "this is suspicious to noobs". So for Soneji to be the one to suspect and then vote me for it is both a surprise and also scummy.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:59 pm Mac what would you know about my energy to tell if it's off? That's some vague bullshit if I've ever seen it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:52 pm I'd like to suggest the primary focus of day 1 be deciding between lynching Long Con, Soneji and if you feel like it you can throw me into the debate for some spice.
Day 1 ends in less than two hours Mac.

Well unless you usually have a vibe of vague irritation I'd say it's a fair observation of your play so far. You don't seem comfortable to me. Mildly volatile since your first post. I'd say you've been talked into playing here, randed wolf and immediately been like "well fuck" and haven't thought to offset that in your post tone because you didn't expect it to be scumread by anyone. But here we are. Mac the moron with a Mac level read.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:58 pm Path to victory:

Day 1 lynch Long Con or Soneji. Hopefully we get wolf there. I'd say probs higher than rand chance and it's probably one of the higher rated players in any potential wolf build unless we have the misfortunate of having randed LC/Soneji + some combination of Sloo/Jack/Nook/Nut/Daisy. Which I mean, it's probable too but also those are all gonna get night killed if they're town and we run this game deep. Never lynch sig day 1. Even if it's a scum lynch it's usually the worst scum lynch and sig is a great townie that never really gets a chance to shine. He can draw night kills if his reads are on song and that's a good thing if it happens in any game really because of his propensity to get mislynched.

Day 1 kill: I'd guess as long as the townies amongst the aforementioned names town read me on the large I probably cop a bullet here. But it's near certainly going to be one of Sloo/Nut/Mac/Daisy I'd say.

Day 2 lynch: If we get a wolf flip day one we'll have a POE. For the love of God just start lynching from the POE. If we fail to hit fur day 1 lynch the other of LC/Soneji.

Day 2 kill: Probs gonna be another from that pile of names I mentioned.

Day 3 lynch: If we haven't hit fur at this point lynch Sloonei without thinking twice. If we have 1 or 2 wolves, keep working through the POE and we'll win eventually.

If we follow this model up to day 3 we have an >80% chance of winning the game and right now anyone sane would be accepting that opportunity.
MacDougall out here really trying to create a chain of lynches, off of a low content d1.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Good luck Soneji!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:56 pm World famous Walrus Participant motobot is joining us for a mafia game. I think this is his first time playing? Welcome!

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motobot wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 8:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 7:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 7:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 7:38 pm 2 mafia solved already.
Bravo
You sound disappointed that I have solved the game. Don't be Sloonei. Together we will reclaim the cosmos on behalf of the government or whatever it is that we represent.
I was going to vote for you for scrap, but now I kind of think Spacedaisy is a better choice because you sound like you are trying to pretend to figure out who is bad and who is good.
If this is his first game, then this is the first post he ever made in a mafia game and it's the most straightforward smackdown of Macdougall I've ever seen. Moto is instantly my favorite player in the game.

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motobot wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 5:19 pm I think that Nanook is bad he might kill me he's evil
Can you tell us more about why you think nanook is evil, motobot? What evil things did he do?

Pretty astute read on me to be honest.

Path to victory:

Day 1 lynch Long Con or Soneji. Hopefully we get wolf there. I'd say probs higher than rand chance and it's probably one of the higher rated players in any potential wolf build unless we have the misfortunate of having randed LC/Soneji + some combination of Sloo/Jack/Nook/Nut/Daisy. Which I mean, it's probable too but also those are all gonna get night killed if they're town and we run this game deep. Never lynch sig day 1. Even if it's a scum lynch it's usually the worst scum lynch and sig is a great townie that never really gets a chance to shine. He can draw night kills if his reads are on song and that's a good thing if it happens in any game really because of his propensity to get mislynched.

Day 1 kill: I'd guess as long as the townies amongst the aforementioned names town read me on the large I probably cop a bullet here. But it's near certainly going to be one of Sloo/Nut/Mac/Daisy I'd say.

Day 2 lynch: If we get a wolf flip day one we'll have a POE. For the love of God just start lynching from the POE. If we fail to hit fur day 1 lynch the other of LC/Soneji.

Day 2 kill: Probs gonna be another from that pile of names I mentioned.

Day 3 lynch: If we haven't hit fur at this point lynch Sloonei without thinking twice. If we have 1 or 2 wolves, keep working through the POE and we'll win eventually.

If we follow this model up to day 3 we have an >80% chance of winning the game and right now anyone sane would be accepting that opportunity.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:52 pm sup

we ain't lynching sig today you absolute nerds

So far I feel good about my decision.

This is my first chance to exercise my new Nutella meta. Never scum read her ever. Here's hoping that works out.

I'd like to suggest the primary focus of day 1 be deciding between lynching Long Con, Soneji and if you feel like it you can throw me into the debate for some spice.

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