The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:30 am I meant that if JPIC was vanillaized he wouldn't be tracked as visiting tutuu because he wouldn't have the ability to go out of his house at all.

I'm not sure why LC is surprised that his role doesn't notify. I don't believe anyone else has validated his actions.

Also I'm not sure why he'd target Tutuu with it either.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:30 am You know what.

N1 Juliets targeted Alison. Tutuu stopped the kill.
N3 Juliets targeted Radishes. He died.
N5 Juliets targeted Wilgy. He died.
i don't buy it

What makes her clear exactly? She subbed into a slot that was mass scumreads keep in mind.

Claims holster n2. Claims Alison a second time n4.

Maybe she just carried kills those three times and used something else on Alison n4 and did nothing n2?

You know what.

N1 Juliets targeted Alison. Tutuu stopped the kill.
N3 Juliets targeted Radishes. He died.
N5 Juliets targeted Wilgy. He died.

Nah Tutuu can't be this role if it exists.

That would mean their action works on a same night they target basis.

N1 targeted Tim
N2 targeted JPIC
N5 targeted LC?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:24 am It's an interesting thought. Does it explain any other strange phenomena?
what was the thing between dizzy and ted and tim again?

Tim roleblocked Ted and Dizzy tracked Ted to Tim anyway.

Hypothetically the rogue you speak of targeted Tim?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:47 pm Oh. JPIC was the reason thread wasn't open on N1. And here I was hoping Cindy Kate had finally come to its senses. What if someone vanillarized JPIC or some similar action, making his whole role useless? Night was open and Tutu wasn't capped. Looks like he was out of function. Does that make things make more sense?

Dizzy thought of it first gotta give credit

It's an interesting thought. Does it explain any other strange phenomena?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:12 am thats my only explanation for why the passive portion of JPIC's role stopped working on n2, and yet JPIC was alive at that point (he died n3)

You think that they don't realise they lose their power and keep firing thinking they do?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:23 pm How's this for a theory.

3p role. Fake Plastic Trees. Each night you target a player. That player will lose all of their role powers. You win the game when every player left aside from you has had their roles taken away.

Sorry Tutuu I already had this idea lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:06 am tutuu does not seem aware that I targeted her last night with my power.

Was anyone?

No one

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:37 pm My instincts tell me nutella's claim is a trap, so it's probably actually legit.

He then voted on the Tim counterwagon.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:19 pm I don't think she's fake. It's too random. Boats? C'mon. Also she'd come up with a fake claim that'd be more believable if she was fake.
Unless she needs to collect "identities" for a more nefarious reason, which would provide a framework to craft the fake role around.

TMI?

Surely this is too dumb to be true.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:02 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:01 amLC target Radishes if your recipient does indeed get notified because it'll work if Juliets is covering him and won't if she's not. - Hey here's another potential reason why Radishes died, but Alison cop checked him so that's neat.
Shit, yeah, I DID target Radishes last night. Could have been bad for ol' LC. Thanks, Alison!

Hmmm

I can buy that mafia redirected her to town just in case she landed a red check but it doesn't make him the mafia that did it.

Even if she was redirected how does that confirm LC as mafia? She didn't out she was cop checking him. At best it just makes him not cleared.

Give me cause as to why voting no one is not optimal.

Tutuu who did you target last night?

I legit think we should just sleep and get more mech and make the mafia kill again. Maybe like indefinitely til Alison gets a red check lol.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:18 am I'll admit he should be checked again and probably have at least 3 investigative roles put on him in case he kills one and redirects another.

Logic, Alison and Dyslexicon I suppose are our only choices.

I don't want to yeet Ted anymore.

So do we just sleep here?
choices meaning what?

why dont u wanna yeet long con?

If he's town we just yeeted a confirm and I'm sorry but that's beyond my scope.

I think we should vote no one?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:18 am i feel like u guise want me dead purely for emotional reasons. u are afraid that you will look very foolish and embarassed if im 3p and i win

im not an arbiter of justice who gets to dictate ppl's emotions, i cant even control mine, so its fine if u guise act on ur emotions and yeet me

but at please be self-conscious that ur letting ur emotions take control! and that i am not objectively scummy or have high 3p equity!

I think you're town Tutuu.

I'll admit he should be checked again and probably have at least 3 investigative roles put on him in case he kills one and redirects another.

Logic, Alison and Dyslexicon I suppose are our only choices.

I don't want to yeet Ted anymore.

So do we just sleep here?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:10 am I think it's more likely that the mafia blocked you simply because you were the only person who could stop them firing at Radishes and didn't trust you'd blindly stick to the plan.
tsp was a 2-shot doc and he was assigned to doc MR

so the mafia roleblocked me, banking on

1) me not following the plan
2) tsp ALSO not following the plan

???

Hmmm. This just makes it more likely that they roleblock you and redirect TSP but then again Wilgy didn't see a redirect on TSP.

If it was a driver from Alison to TSP I would expect her result to have been TSP is town not Long Con.

I suppose we can just confirm him again if we must.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

I think it's very high odds the last mafia is just Dyslexicon. Wilgy was going to track Dizzy. Dizzy was in the bottom tier POE anyway. It's big time likely.

I still think Alison's checks are clean. I thought LC was town anyway. He's done nothing to scumside at all. Hasn't come to the aid of any teammates. Just town slank play.

I think it's more likely that the mafia blocked you simply because you were the only person who could stop them firing at Radishes and didn't trust you'd blindly stick to the plan.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:08 am this was all on N3:

tutuu, assigned to jailkeep alison (and mac and spf but alison was revealed cop)
radishes, assigned to watch tutuu or TSP
radishes dying
tutuu roleblocked by mafia (confirmed by dizzy regardless of my alignment)
alison not dying
wilgy seeing that an investigative role visited TSP

conclusion: mafia has a redirector

Wilgy himself was an investigative role and visited TSP. That's why he got that result. Trust me.

Lol when you get to endgame you're going to be like "damn you got me".

Did Logic out their track yet?

Radishes watches between TSP and Tutuu. You got targeted with a roleblock. He had to die over Alison so we didn't see the roleblock. They just blocked you so that you wouldn't go off the page and protect Radishes maybe. The threat of Juliets role going on Al means that I still think it unlikely the mafia risk wasting a neg action on her. Maybe they did though. But i still tend to think its not something that would outright fabricate her result cuz that was Sprityo's role.

Perhaps you are just right about the last mafia role and they do what you say.

I see. You are right.

Hmmm.

They roleblocked you when you were jailing between Alison, Myself and SPF right?

So they roleblocked you so they could do something to one of us. Not necessarily Alison though but probably.

Radishes was probably just chosen to be the kill.

Who was MR meant to watch again?

But it could explain what their plan was. Juliets didn't claim she was going to target Alison that night or at least it's confirmed mafia didn't know because that's what got Samu caught in the claims.

So maybe if anything this confirms that LC is a real check.

I think she did anyway?

But Juliets also targeted Alison that night so no mafia redirection can have taken place.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:50 am i wouldnt read into the name, but idk how its handled here

if there is no mafia redirector, then the mysteries are unresolved:

1) why was i roleblocked n3 and alison not dead

2) why did wilgy saw an "info" (investigative?) role visit TSP n3

The n3 thing isn't resolved as mafia anyway. Why would they redirect a shot on Alison to Radishes and then fire at her to shoot Radishes?

Why would a town redirector do this too?

Seems more likely to me that you are just lying about your n3 action.

Bus driver targets x and y. Alison targets x. She gets a named check on y.

Why would mafia bus drive themself with Long Con, her actual target? So Alison can red check them?

Or the hypothetical role where the mafia player left has a redirector role that targets Alison to move her to target a green check but still get a named result on her initial target? How would the mafia even know Alison was going to target mafia? She's more high odds to just get a clear anyway in that situation.

I think the redirector hypothesis fudging her claim is bunk. Godfather or nothing.

What redirection role when targeting a cop could mafia possibly have that gives the cop a named green check like this? It's not a thing.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:23 am Alison does your result say the name of the player you target?
yes

I doubt you've been redirected then tbh. I'd say if you were you'd straight up get the name of the player you were directed into. 90% sure.

Alison does your result say the name of the player you target?

Alright everyone show's ever just tell us your alignment so we can go home

mighty fine

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:42 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:40 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:39 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:36 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:34 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:33 am

Ok i have to confess macdougall-kun

I am actually a way better liar than i admit to be

Thats why it reads as so convincing. I tried really hard lol
So why?
Why what?
why would you try really hard to fake being 3p convincingly during the night?
I was roleplaying Sawyer from Lost

He has been making a big impression on me lately and I even found myself doing some of his facial expressions irl
You could do that without fake claiming 3p
Have u watched Lost?

Every episode

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:39 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:36 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:34 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:31 am I am reading Tutuu's 3p claim and all the follow up posts and like I am so convinced she was serious lol
Ok i have to confess macdougall-kun

I am actually a way better liar than i admit to be

Thats why it reads as so convincing. I tried really hard lol
So why?
Why what?
why would you try really hard to fake being 3p convincingly during the night?
I was roleplaying Sawyer from Lost

He has been making a big impression on me lately and I even found myself doing some of his facial expressions irl

You could do that without fake claiming 3p

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:45 pm yes the game ends tonight, as much as i wanted to milk this more for entertainment, i just legit started feeling bad at the amount of effort yall started putting

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:49 pm i am not an idiot. if i didnt have guarantee im winning tonight i wouldnt have done this

lets not spoil all the fun though, eh?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:15 pm jules is actually town, i roleblocked her lmao

can u guys at least guess the last mafia? maybe u will feel a bit better if u make a correct final read

its like, your basketball team is losing by 30 points, and there are only 30 seconds left on the clock

and yet u throw, just playing basketball for the sake of basketball

For posterity 3: posterity harder

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:40 pm there seems to be some kind of large misunderstanding friends

i not the type of person to surrender. ever. that is pretty silly

i am saying that im mechanically unstoppable from achieving my wincon tonight. LMAO

For posterity 2, posterity boogaloo

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:18 pm well its been fun, boys and girls

figured id tease yall a bit more but im not that cruel.

like, there is some treshhold / line between having fun at the expense of others, and actually being a jerk

i am the rogue.

its hilarious to me how close mac got to guessing my exact role. but then again i dunno how much i should be impressed at him hitting the bull's eye with his dart, considering he also shot like 100 darts out of his ass in a 360 directional axis

i just ... felt bad at how much yall wanted keep putting effort and stuff, and tinfoil and stuff. like, it was like watching a bunch of kids trying to escape from their burning school, and knowing they had no chance to, but watching them struggle anyway. it just didnt feel right to me, man.

gg, i have had a lot of fun this game, and i hope all of u had fun as well!

For posterity

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