The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:54 pm I think your observations are valid/agreeable on 2 of 3 for bob, @MacDougall. I will let him respond before I expand.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:22 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:32 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:14 amBig if true

How do you feel about anything in the thread up to me calling you a mafioso?

I feel like I don't have enough time to sort all of the Mac/jjj/epi stuff out right now except I doubt epi/Mac w/w.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:48 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:18 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm sabie12, any impressions of dunya, Epi, or myself (or anyone else that may have shimmied in a post)?

Maaaaaan I don't know my brain hurts I didn't know there was a quiz on the first day. Wait it's the zero day...or is it zeroth day?

This is a mild ping but also might just be a result of her role-playing rather than her normal posting style. Usually I would expect a lot of waffly stuff (not in a bad way) but this is short and doesn't mention anything about any of those players.

I would encourage @sabie12 to do a little more talking about specific people (while keeping up the good RP )

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:48 pm DDL is mafia

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:51 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:25 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:48 pm DDL is mafia

Tell me more.

Partly wanted in on the "blah is mafia" meme, partly sus of the way he latched onto your mechanics post. It was getting suspicion from other(s?), but for very different reasons than "JJJ is hiding behind mechanics talk" which is the typical accusation around that sort of thing. DDL expressed suspicion of a thing that other people found suspicious but for reasons that don't ring true. That makes my hunting instincts want to eat his face off.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:48 pm DDL is mafia

DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:30 pm My initial reaction is suspicion of the people calling out JJJ for focusing on game mechanics and structure. JJJ is well established as our exposition character, so suspecting him for that feels like trying to ignore everything that came before, like Rian Johnson did with Last Jedi.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:16 am 11:21

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:21 am now ask me why

11:28

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:28 am no one asked me

Wow calm down.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:47 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:44 amI didn't tell you to stop doing it. I am trying to tell you that this type of thing isn't going to encourage me to contribute (at the very least in the way that you would hope to see) because I take one look at multi paragraph posts full of game theory in them at 2.40pm on a Tuesday while I am approaching 3PMitis and decide that antagonising the goof doing it is just as good a use of my effort as being helpful.

Need I remind you that we don't get "Jay is civilian" written in our rolecards?

I will note a grievance with Mac that I alluded to before and didn't expand on.

Orange follows green as though it is meant to explain why green is happening. That means the following assertion is being made:

"Jay, your multiparagraph post full of game theory at 2:40 PM on Tuesday discourages me from contributing, because I don't know your alignment." The connection doesn't make sense. To be annoyed by effort and to be distrustful of effort are not the same thing.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:37 am if macdougall was town, he'd be trying to make sure it was civ-jjj leading the thread and get into some tag team action with him imo. i am most unimpressed with his contributions, even for a day 0, that he spent his time complaining and then taking it back--and that is all he contributed. nahw. even for a tuesday afternoon, dats weak sauce.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:28 am no one asked me, but ima go ahead and tell you why i think mac is mafia.

he comes in here to demotivate jjj. he has an issue with jjj taking the leader role. he's vocalizing it to make others aware of these issues he has with jjj. he is trying to renounce jjj's place in the thread. ok...

but then nah, he doesn't wanna take jjj's place after all. he's happy being led. he's happy jjj being himself.

there was no purpose for the former or the latter. when someone comes in strong and then contradicts everything said, it is always a plot to weaken or cause conflict or shake trust in a person. macdougall here was initially trying to take civ jjj off course, and whether he continued or not, the posts are there. they have already garnered agreement from at least 2 other people. there is purpose behind every post, especially one that criticizes another player's playing style, and especially when macdougall is no newbie to jjj or his playstyle. it gets old ya know. the pocketing approach may have worked in ass-class, but it wouldn't work in any game i'm in.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:21 am hot lunch hour dunya take: macdougall is mafia

epi is town (also, hi jeff )

jjj is independent, probably can win with civs.

sabie is sabie i.e. town

now ask me why

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:02 pm Sloonei, you may want to consider a slightly milder blue for your host color; it's a bit difficult to read on the gray skin. You're the boss though, boss.

How's this

blinding me tbh

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:12 pm why have i never spammed a mafia game with annie edison gifs before, i don't know.

anyway, i won't be spamming much, it's past my bed time.

sloonei, what time EST is end of day/night going to be for my info.

linki: the last one is most agreeable to my eyes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:44 amI didn't tell you to stop doing it. I am trying to tell you that this type of thing isn't going to encourage me to contribute (at the very least in the way that you would hope to see) because I take one look at multi paragraph posts full of game theory in them at 2.40pm on a Tuesday while I am approaching 3PMitis and decide that antagonising the goof doing it is just as good a use of my effort as being helpful.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:44 amNeed I remind you that we don't get "Jay is civilian" written in our rolecards?

What does that have to do with your motivation to play with your own effort?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:48 am I am always happy to step back and let other civilian(s) have a go and whipping the thread into shape. I just need someone to actually say "Yes, JaggedJimmyJay, I really want to do that."

That doesn't mean I'll shut the hell up, but I don't have to be the in the spotlight. I do this because I genuinely expect that nobody else will -- especially when Sloonei is the host and dunya is strapped for time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 amIf they work then that's cool, go ahead and win us the game. If you're gonna take up this role there's not a whole lot of room for other people who like to lead the dance to do so and that's fine. I'll just sit on the sidelines and issue you intermittent support.

The entire point of everything I do is to encourage other people to get more involved. You know that better than anyone. You participated in our DFS slaughter and acknowledged that the pace of Days 0 and 1 was the catalyst of that slaughter.

So why are you now giving me this crap that can do nothing but discourage my effort to recreate that environment?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:27 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:26 amLiterally nobody cares about any of this Day 0. Literally nobody.

That's why civilians lose.

I dunno, filling the thread with this sort of stuff on day 0 might help you but it just makes the thread a more challenging read for me. Can't speak for the world though.

It's one post, Mac. What?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:33 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:30 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:27 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:26 amLiterally nobody cares about any of this Day 0. Literally nobody.

That's why civilians lose.

Civilians don't lose because nobody paid attention to chart. You are doing work to do work.

You know what I do when I'm bad? I count on my fingers how many civilians I need to knock off to win. That's a mafia chart.

Civilians lose because they don't give a shit about winning. I lost in Vanilla Mafia because I didn't give a shit about winning. I didn't do work to do work.

I don't care what you do when you're bad. My methods work and you are well aware.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:27 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:26 amLiterally nobody cares about any of this Day 0. Literally nobody.

That's why civilians lose.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:39 pm MacDougall is a member of the mafia faction.