The Syndicate

Jimmy are you cum?

Same question to all RYM players. Are you all cum?

OMG Crosseyed and Painless just came on the commercial radio station at our work...

Weiiiiird.

thellama73 wrote:

Diiny wrote:

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Apologies for the low content stuff over the last couple of days. I will get a chance to eleborate on my Llama gut read during my lunch break.

I like the LC lynch though. Especially over seaside. I have no real read on bcornett and I don't think I could be swayed to vote that way.

How does one elaborate on a gut read? It's not a rhetorical question, teach me.

I thought it meant he'd try to match his gut's read with an actual read, though he could elaborate the gut read more literally by pointing out exactly which posts made his gut feel irksome

Explaining on someone else's behalf rather than letting them answer themselves? Vote.

Vote Diiny.

Aside from the fact that the explanation was sound (and was what I was going to say) and I've never heard of that being a scum tell before and you appearing out of nowhere and you voting for someone at no risk of being lynched, I think my vote being on you is fucking awesome right now...

Diiny wrote:..and yet it suddenly feels like the birdswagon. This gives me pause.

This.

motel room wrote:Alright, switching to Choutas, hi

Based on what?

I know I'm not a syndicate player but I have to say I have been wary of LC from the word go. If you guys are saying he's too good to be this obvious as scum then why would he has town, play bad enough to look scum? Is he only good as a scum player?

Also that's a bunch of wifom to me.

Apologies for the low content stuff over the last couple of days. I will get a chance to eleborate on my Llama gut read during my lunch break.

I like the LC lynch though. Especially over seaside. I have no real read on bcornett and I don't think I could be swayed to vote that way.

I am tied up so I will probably only have time to say this. I am voting for thellama. Post history is whack. Vibey as feck. Am on phone and busy so can't promise I can elaborate much more. Take a look at llama and tell me what you think guys and gals.

Yeah ok seaside is now a town read haha.

I'm not sure how I'm really catching flak for this actually. Seaside was getting votes before I said anything. If I wanted him lynched and I was scum I could have just shut up and put attention elsewhere. As it stands I actually do think he's the best chance of flipping scum. Sometimes things ARE what they seem. Actually most of the time. It's called Occam's Razor.

I haven't really heard any good reasons why we shouldn't lynch him and we should instead lynch someone else.

You guys are coming across like scum players preparing for a town flip and planning your next townie lynch candidate.

Hard to say Sorsha. I haven't played on there in a long time. When I was playing we never actually go to lynch any because nobody ever listened to me hahah.

I remember modding games that were ruined by low content posters surviving to end game. Games that were otherwise really awesome.

FZ. wrote:Is Seaside a good player? How is he when he's bad?

I never get why people assume that the baddies would be that obvious about their alignment. If he's a good player, would you not expect him to at least try when he's a baddie? It doesn't look like he's trying much. and while I get MacDougal's fear that at some point Seaside may become a liability, we are very far from a lylo point, so I have to wonder if this is not a poor excuse to lynch someone without having to account for it.


linki: If most people seem to harbour some doubt about him, it means he leaves very little crumbs.

Yeah he's a good player sometimes. Sometimes he phones it in. I don't think he's trying to phone it in. I think he's struggling to bullshit adequately. If he was town he'd try less imo.

I don't think he's being obvious about his alignment either. I think it's very hard to tell how he is and it's very wifom.

If I had stronger scum reads, or if someone else made a decent case against someone in particular I'd be happy to keep seaside around. As it stands there's no stronger lynch candidate, we need to be confident about who we lynch because of a vote influencing scum role and we get rid of someone who is going to keep catching votes every round anyway, so why let it go on any longer and potentially cause problems late game?

Sorsha wrote:Two players I'm considering voting for so far:
Mac:
I don't like Mac going for seaside for the simple fact that he doesn't want him in the game. Seaside came in day one voicing suspicion of Mac so this just seems like a delayed no u/omgus. Long Con made a couple good points earlier about some things Mac said yesterday late in the lynch also. (If I wasn't on my phone I'd go back and get the quote) Mac was also on HBs rainbow list in yellow so I could see Mac trying to take him out before HB had more of a chance to look closer at him.
Straw:
Based on his posts from the night I believe he might also be trying to set seaside up for the HB kill.

Going to put my vote on Mac for the time being.

I don't want him in the game because he's either scum or because he's disruptive to the scum hunt. He's the best lynch candidate for the day. Explain to me how that's not valid?

His suspicion of me was nothing tbh. I barely even considered it at the time let alone now.

I don't think Long Con's points were good. Pretty sure you'll agree when you ACTUALLY READ THEM.

Also I have no idea what the fuck you mean by the last bit? Setting him up for the kill? He's going to get lynched, why would anyone bother doing that?

Lynching seaside is a no brainer at this point. Most votes, most people interracted with so it leaves the best crumbs. Most people seem to harbour some doubt about him.

What's your read of seaside?

Sorsha wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Seaside is either scum or a liability that we can't take further into the game.

Are you actually suspicious of him?

I don't know what to think of him.

Why is he a liability?

Because;

a) If he's town, scum won't kill him because he's attracting all the attention
b) If he is town and around at lylo he's gonna lose us the game

Coupled with the fact that he's talking shit and generally not really trying... It's a no brainer lynch.

So, I would be working on the fact that we'll be lynching him today and focus efforts away from him in terms of scum hunting because in my mind I can't see anybody else getting lynched or any reason to lynch anyone over him.

Seaside is either scum or a liability that we can't take further into the game.

FZ. wrote:All he's really done so far is:

1. excuse my accusation by making it something it wasn't and then playing ignorant to what I really meant (yes, I meant you being quiet is a bad thing in terms of alignment, not in terms of you not being a lousy civvie like any of us at times).
2. making long posts with multi quoting where he mostly addresses general comments like what is his opinion of lazy playing and other irrelevant topics.
3. Go after BWT's voters when it was an hour before deadline (way too late in my opinion) and comment about how he doesn't understand how BWT was the leading candidate, but not really offering any other solid option other than K4J and saying it was too late (which we know how that ended, by the way), and then voting for someone for the silliest reasons.

I just had a good look at both of you. I don't really like your case and I think it counts against you to be honest. You are actually questioning a guy for not lynching a townie which is serious wifom and such a scum thing to do. Not to mention the fact that this post;

Epignosis wrote:Matt F suggested that he might change his vote, but I don't see him doing so at this point.

Somebody read him. I don't believe he ever mentioned bwt prior to his vote.

That's...tacking the third vote on somebody for no stated reason.

In my opinion is a townie post. This is someone who is actively analysing and storing information about gut scum reads. If this is a scum post, you are assuming that Epi made a mental note of a townie saying they might change their vote, waiting a fair amount of time, then calling them out on it, rather than playing what's in front of them to play what suits them at the time. I find it very difficult to believe that a scum player would play this way, especially while being questioned by two other players.

FZ. wrote:

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:"Quiet Epi is never a good thing."

Well now let's see.

Raise your hand if loud Epi ever railroaded you when you were a civilian and got your ass lynched.

Raise your hand if you wished loud Epi would have shutted up the fuck.

I thought so.

I don't see why me being quiet is "never a good thing."

I concur with epi again.

Does concurring with him affect your trust of him? Do you not find it a little weird that Epi has done nothing to attract any attention so far? Is that what you expect of him in his civvie mode?

You are using meta to draw suspicion against a player who in isolation has done nothing to deserve it. It's fair that of course you have better knowledge of Epi's past play than I, but as a scum player I really love hanging people by their own defined meta. Using meta to call someone scum when they are town is easy because townies generally aren't focused on playing to their meta, scum players are. So to me personally I find scum players more likely to play to a set and publicly known townie meta than scum players. Does that make sense? Like it comes across so far that Epi has a pretty well known townie meta, and is not playing to it. If Epi's meta is so well documented, wouldn't Epi just come into the thread doing what Epi does?

I also find meta is actually bullshit. People play the way they play and it's only really nervous first time scum players that stick out like dogs balls. Anyone who has played a few times just plays the way they play, town or scum imo. Like I said, I use meta as bullshit to get people lynched. In fairness I do it when I'm town as well when I have a gut read on someone I want lynched, and you have been tunneling the shit out of Epi, so I could easily see you just wanting to get Epi lynched and pulling bullshit out of the air to do so town, or scum.

FZ. wrote:I find it funny that me and K4J are the only ones thinking Epi might be suspicious. K4J looks more civvie to me, so I'm wondering if this is a case of culture thing (we both come from the same site), or what, but I can't understand how no one else is even considering Epi. All he's done so far is agree with people and make a joke about my suspicion. JJJ says he didn't do a no U. Like Epi would be caught dead doing a No U.

linki: LOL, we think alike too much

This is from the previous day where you say "all he's done ... then proceed to reduce his posts down to something to suit an agenda. I really don't like this. If you want to question a guy's posts can you directly refer to them, quote them. Don't just paraphrase them, especially when it turns out you are actually bullshitting. " When you say "make a joke about my suspicion" what you actually mean is made a small case about your suspicion being scumfounded. When you say you agree with people, what you mean is agree with a point JJJ made so hard that he publicly proclaimed him a town read. You also failed to point out this post, which doesn't fit into either of the categories you lumped all of Epi's posts into.

Epignosis wrote:

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:Epignosis votes for sig I suppose because he voted for him as well as mutual appreciation of Kansas. But then we have another inexplicable vote for 3J that is neither explained nor noted other than the vote itself. And now, enter 3J.

I voted sig and sig's choice for his win response. I thought that much was obvious.

I read the rest of your post. I don't agree with you, but I like where your head is.

Matt F wrote:

sig wrote:...I understand it is Day 1 and we have little to go on but this seems kinda very weak.

Not sure how I feel about Rbz's theory, however, if you are civ, then shouldn't this read "...but this IS very weak" as opposed to "seems" and "kinda" ?

I like Matt F's point here.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Oh sure, Epi's vote for me probably influenced my willingness to vote for him on some level. Still, the reason I provided was the truest inspiration. Every time I've played a game with him so far, he's either died immediately, or died right after he and I started duking it out before we could resolve the fight.

This is, as far as I can recall, true.

bea wrote:Rox and others - tend to Day 1 Day 1. We recognise that ALL arguments are based on very little. The weakest of pings. And lacking anything concrete to go on, we reserve the right to random vote.

I don't like this. "All arguments [Day 1] are based on very little." All? No, no they aren't. I think I (and others) have demonstrated time after time that Days 1 are a civilian's greatest tool for setting up a winning game. To shrug it off like this in praise of randomness (and who is to prove if someone actually voted randomly) doesn't look good.

Don't validate random voters. Random votes suck, and if you're a civilian, you shouldn't make them.

Choutas wrote:

Diiny wrote:I should say that's more than an accusation of you being too quiet per se, it's an accusation of you being fundementally off-meta.

Sorsha also raised my eyebrow, chiming in to answer an easy question about polls and then leaving without sharing any views or making any real attempt to play mafia.

I'm also extremely unhappy with Roxy's off topic to mafia ratio. I won't be happy if you randomise at all. Day 1 is about MAKING concrete evidence through stirring shit and provoking reactions, not just waiting for it to happen and throwing your vote onto random people.

Voting random people with no concrete evidence is just as good to get the ball rolling. Random voting phase is a legitimate strategy and not something we made up on rym. If only more people voted randomly and sparked discussion on day...if only.

It is a strategy, but it's a lazy one, and one that is prone to Mafia abuse. How many of you actually RANDOMLY vote? I would say it isn't random voting, but lazy voting. Instead, engage people in conversation. Judge their tone. Set them up if you must. "Random" voting just telegraphs your moves to the Mafia. If I were bad on your site, I'd eat you alive. Often.

bea wrote:I miss Flyin' High. Like lots.

I miss her too. She single-handedly won my first hosted game.

FZ. wrote:On to someone else, quiet Epi is never a good thing...

Is loud Epi always a good thing? Be careful what you wish for.

And I think...

...nope, I'm going to harp on this one comment.

"Quiet Epi is never a good thing."

Well now let's see.

Raise your hand if loud Epi ever railroaded you when you were a civilian and got your ass lynched.

Raise your hand if you wished loud Epi would have shutted up the fuck.

I thought so.

I don't see why me being quiet is "never a good thing."

And it is this last point that gets you my early vote. Because you seem to be more interested in getting Epi lynched than finding scum. So I will be voting for FZ.

Long Con wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Can I point out that there is a player out there with this scum role.

"(Nothing But) Flowers – Can't get used to the lifestyle brought about by the new players. Its vote is worth x3 against players from the opposite forum. It cannot be harmed by night powers used by players from the same forum. If it carries out the kill, it cannot kill players from the same forum."

I would assume that the votes are going to magically appear at the end of the lynch (mod feel free to clarify). So who we think we are lynching may not end up being that person. If we can largely agree on a lynch candidate it's probably a good idea to ensure that everyone else is far enough back from them to not be able to change the lynch. I would also say it's unlikely the person is going to use this role so early unless we have a scum candidate because it'll just give us a pile of people to choose a lynch candidate from tomorrow. But if I were using this role, I'd make sure that I voted for someone on a vote that was full of townies so that the pile is diluted. I expect this will turn out to be a very dangerous role and I expect it will end up being a huge advantage to scum. Think about it, how are we going to lynch this person in particular unless they are so far ahead on the lynch tally that they can't protect themselves by voting on the second highest tally?

1. Best place to hide is in plain sight. The ones who are most aware of this role are the role and their teammates.

2. Your "solution" to this role is to pile lots of votes on one person so this role cannot alter a lynch. To me, this is exactly what this role wants, in order to hide out. The last thing this role wants is to be the triple-vote that changes the fate of a lynch - at least, not until much later in the game. I would love to see a lynch where the second-most vote-getter gets lynched unexpectedly, because that would reveal (Nothing But) Flowers and we would have a short list of people it could be.

So you're one of the more suspicious people on my radar right now.

That actually makes me a little wary of Diiny, who pointed out that they are just voting for BWT to save himself. But I do doubt that he'd be so blatant if he was that scum role now that I think about it.

Ok... so why did you write these two sentences at all?

I'm also starting to think we should lynch a lurker here. The two players on the top of the lynch pile are both very active, so if they are scum it's likely to become more apparent over time. Whereas if we let the likes of the below players live, we're getting into the deeper game where it's harder to remove players for low content contributions and it becomes far easier for scum to coast through doing nothing.

devin (5 posts)
elohcin (6 posts, 2 of which were buddying me)
reywaS (1 post, and all it says is hello)
Russtifinko (1 post, and all it says is that they were posting to avoid being made a non participant)
RDW (4 posts though it is always like RDW that I remember to either post nothing or a lot, but still)
Strawhenge (4 posts)
TheFloyd73 (2 post, both of no value and is apparently already someone's "HUGE TOWN READ")

I say lynch one out of reywaS and Russtifinko. If you don't have a good gut feeling about who you currently have your vote on, put it on there and either force them to post or get rid of one of them otherwise we're inviting them to do this for the rest of the game.

Voting reywaS because their 1 post had less content than Russtifinko's did.

I guess you were right, we should have lynched someone who was not one of the top vote-getters. Should have gone for a lurker instead. Kind of makes me itch, though - maybe you knew you'd be right.

Hi there.

I went back and read all the roles in one big go (not long after I read the entire thread through once because I wasn't around for the first 13 pages) and saw that scum had a role that was directly relevant to the situation at the time I made that post, and nobody had been considering it. To say that talking about it makes me scum is a bit weird considering;

a) The town being oblivious to it is entirely stupid and helpful for the scum
b) Nobody bothered mentioning it and based on the reactions nobody actually knew about it before I did

Sure, I guess that role would prefer to hide. So making a case against lurkers and trying to get people to do it would be dumb when they instead could just cast a vote against someone with zero votes on them and make up a random shitty case for it.

Did I not actually try to get people to vote for reywaS instead? Did I not also actually attract votes onto reywaS? Did I say, "guys we should lynch a lurker, but please don't cast your vote onto the same player as me?" So how does your argument stack up. What if I was able to get the town to lynch, or come within 3 votes of lynching reywaS if I was this scum player? I'm out on day 1 and I'm the worst scum player ever evidently.

Point 2: In honesty I dunno why I bothered finishing that post. I had the post half written and was trying to make a case but then realised my case was flawed. Instead of deleting it I just wrote that. I'm not the first and won't be the last town player to make a post in mafia thread that isn't a perfectly formed case.

Point 3: Your final point, fine, it's possible that I would say that lynching a lurker is preferable to the primary lynch candidate knowing the lynch candidate is a townie. It's also possible that me wanting to lynch a player on day 1 who is posting nothing as opposed to someone who is putting themselves out there is a rational and reasonable thing for anyone to say.

So basically tl;dr you find me suspicious because I am too townie? Because I brought to the attention of the thread a dangerous vote influencing role that nobody was paying attention to and tried to make a case to lynch a lurker instead of a vocal day 1 player.

If you want to find that role I'd suggest looking at people who are voting on a player who has only got their vote on them.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Floyd is a town read.

HamburgerBoy wrote:I'll make a preliminary rainbow now actually since no one else has yet. Just five colors, and there are a lot of players (mostly Syndicaters) I still don't have a good grasp on yet that will be excluded.

sig
Sorsha
golden
bcornett24
Roxy
Metalmarsh89
Russtifinko
TheFloyd73
motel room/aokiji
Ricochet
Strawhenge
Diiny
MacDougall
Choutas
Bea
JaggedJimmyJay
Matt F
rundontwalk
Long Con
Seaside

Like, seriously can people stop saying TheFloyd is a town read? There's nothing more to that than foolishness.

I can understand having a gut feeling about people who've made posts, even just a few but when they are 2 low content posts you're joking if you can tell me you have any reason to actually consider them a town read.

What's your angle?

Choutas wrote:

sig wrote:

Choutas wrote:Ignorant question: Is sig syndicate's sodr?
/quote]

Who is Sodr and how would I be like him?

Sodr is phew how do I even explain...
Read this post and try to understand https://rateyourmusic.com/board_message ... msg4236879

Damn you now I have to read that entire game for old time's sake.

Hahaha how fun is this game.

Oh yeah I'm just like near on tripping from being so artificially awake (six coffee day). I want the world to collide with a meteorite. I need sleep.

Strawhenge wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Strawhenge are you sure Choutas was booted before you played Mafia? I'm sure you have played games with him... Unless I'm getting old and senile.

Also are you high?

I just looked back, and I completely forgot he was Much_Obliged. (But as 'Choutas,' yeah, he was gone by #58.)

Also, no, why, are my posts especially cockamamie?

Haha cockamamie?

Strawhenge are you sure Choutas was booted before you played Mafia? I'm sure you have played games with him... Unless I'm getting old and senile.

Also are you high?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Can I point out that there is a player out there with this scum role.

"(Nothing But) Flowers – Can't get used to the lifestyle brought about by the new players. Its vote is worth x3 against players from the opposite forum. It cannot be harmed by night powers used by players from the same forum. If it carries out the kill, it cannot kill players from the same forum."

I would assume that the votes are going to magically appear at the end of the lynch (mod feel free to clarify). So who we think we are lynching may not end up being that person. If we can largely agree on a lynch candidate it's probably a good idea to ensure that everyone else is far enough back from them to not be able to change the lynch. I would also say it's unlikely the person is going to use this role so early unless we have a scum candidate because it'll just give us a pile of people to choose a lynch candidate from tomorrow. But if I were using this role, I'd make sure that I voted for someone on a vote that was full of townies so that the pile is diluted. I expect this will turn out to be a very dangerous role and I expect it will end up being a huge advantage to scum. Think about it, how are we going to lynch this person in particular unless they are so far ahead on the lynch tally that they can't protect themselves by voting on the second highest tally?

That actually makes me a little wary of Diiny, who pointed out that they are just voting for

I'm also starting to think we should lynch a lurker here. The two players on the top of the lynch pile are both very active, so if they are scum it's likely to become more apparent over time. Whereas if we let the likes of the below players live, we're getting into the deeper game where it's harder to remove players for low content contributions and it becomes far easier for scum to coast through doing nothing.

devin (5 posts)
elohcin (6 posts, 2 of which were buddying me)
reywaS (1 post, and all it says is hello)
Russtifinko (1 post, and all it says is that they were posting to avoid being made a non participant)
RDW (4 posts though it is always like RDW that I remember to either post nothing or a lot, but still)
Strawhenge (4 posts)
TheFloyd73 (2 post, both of no value and is apparently already someone's "HUGE TOWN READ")

I say lynch one out of reywaS and Russtifinko. If you don't have a good gut feeling about who you currently have your vote on, put it on there and either force them to post or get rid of one of them otherwise we're inviting them to do this for the rest of the game.

Voting reywaS because their 1 post had less content than Russtifinko's did.

Would you join me in a vote for Russtifinko?

Sure, would you join me in a vote for reywaS?

Can I point out that there is a player out there with this scum role.

"(Nothing But) Flowers – Can't get used to the lifestyle brought about by the new players. Its vote is worth x3 against players from the opposite forum. It cannot be harmed by night powers used by players from the same forum. If it carries out the kill, it cannot kill players from the same forum."

I would assume that the votes are going to magically appear at the end of the lynch (mod feel free to clarify). So who we think we are lynching may not end up being that person. If we can largely agree on a lynch candidate it's probably a good idea to ensure that everyone else is far enough back from them to not be able to change the lynch. I would also say it's unlikely the person is going to use this role so early unless we have a scum candidate because it'll just give us a pile of people to choose a lynch candidate from tomorrow. But if I were using this role, I'd make sure that I voted for someone on a vote that was full of townies so that the pile is diluted. I expect this will turn out to be a very dangerous role and I expect it will end up being a huge advantage to scum. Think about it, how are we going to lynch this person in particular unless they are so far ahead on the lynch tally that they can't protect themselves by voting on the second highest tally?

That actually makes me a little wary of Diiny, who pointed out that they are just voting for

I'm also starting to think we should lynch a lurker here. The two players on the top of the lynch pile are both very active, so if they are scum it's likely to become more apparent over time. Whereas if we let the likes of the below players live, we're getting into the deeper game where it's harder to remove players for low content contributions and it becomes far easier for scum to coast through doing nothing.

devin (5 posts)
elohcin (6 posts, 2 of which were buddying me)
reywaS (1 post, and all it says is hello)
Russtifinko (1 post, and all it says is that they were posting to avoid being made a non participant)
RDW (4 posts though it is always like RDW that I remember to either post nothing or a lot, but still)
Strawhenge (4 posts)
TheFloyd73 (2 post, both of no value and is apparently already someone's "HUGE TOWN READ")

I say lynch one out of reywaS and Russtifinko. If you don't have a good gut feeling about who you currently have your vote on, put it on there and either force them to post or get rid of one of them otherwise we're inviting them to do this for the rest of the game.

Voting reywaS because their 1 post had less content than Russtifinko's did.

Sorry bit of my post got cut off. Diiny said he was voting for BWT to save himself. But I do doubt that he'd be so blatant if he was that scum role now that I think about it.

Lynch lurker plz.

I gotta work be back later.

Can I point out that there is a player out there with this scum role.

"(Nothing But) Flowers – Can't get used to the lifestyle brought about by the new players. Its vote is worth x3 against players from the opposite forum. It cannot be harmed by night powers used by players from the same forum. If it carries out the kill, it cannot kill players from the same forum."

I would assume that the votes are going to magically appear at the end of the lynch (mod feel free to clarify). So who we think we are lynching may not end up being that person. If we can largely agree on a lynch candidate it's probably a good idea to ensure that everyone else is far enough back from them to not be able to change the lynch. I would also say it's unlikely the person is going to use this role so early unless we have a scum candidate because it'll just give us a pile of people to choose a lynch candidate from tomorrow. But if I were using this role, I'd make sure that I voted for someone on a vote that was full of townies so that the pile is diluted. I expect this will turn out to be a very dangerous role and I expect it will end up being a huge advantage to scum. Think about it, how are we going to lynch this person in particular unless they are so far ahead on the lynch tally that they can't protect themselves by voting on the second highest tally?

That actually makes me a little wary of Diiny, who pointed out that they are just voting for

I'm also starting to think we should lynch a lurker here. The two players on the top of the lynch pile are both very active, so if they are scum it's likely to become more apparent over time. Whereas if we let the likes of the below players live, we're getting into the deeper game where it's harder to remove players for low content contributions and it becomes far easier for scum to coast through doing nothing.

devin (5 posts)
elohcin (6 posts, 2 of which were buddying me)
reywaS (1 post, and all it says is hello)
Russtifinko (1 post, and all it says is that they were posting to avoid being made a non participant)
RDW (4 posts though it is always like RDW that I remember to either post nothing or a lot, but still)
Strawhenge (4 posts)
TheFloyd73 (2 post, both of no value and is apparently already someone's "HUGE TOWN READ")

I say lynch one out of reywaS and Russtifinko. If you don't have a good gut feeling about who you currently have your vote on, put it on there and either force them to post or get rid of one of them otherwise we're inviting them to do this for the rest of the game.

Voting reywaS because their 1 post had less content than Russtifinko's did.

FZ. wrote:I'm not a fan of neither the Sig nor the Diiny lynch at this time. Just my two cents if anyone cares.

I love posts like this.

"I've got no reason for it, but both the lynch candidates aren't good ones imo."

One invariably flips town...

"See I told you so. "

Please use your words.

I am loving playing Mafia with emoticons. It spares me the need to use swear words.

HamburgerBoy I will note I never said that Choutas was all about meta read etc. I inferred that he might be playing tightly to his meta. It might be true but please don't use me as a crutch for your reads when it's not true.

I have noted that Diiny hasn't responded to accusations leveled against him.

So llama makes a very vague assertion against me (hostile makes me interesting, oh please) after I put my vote on the same player he has. Seems legit. It's a nice way to set up a patsy on a town flip or get off a wagon you know is town and leave behind a player you've already thrown allegations at.

thellama73 wrote:

motel room wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about this MacDougal character.

Seems genuine to me so far. What about him makes you feel otherwise?

His overall hostility requires evaluation. I'm not sure I think he's malevolent, but he's someone I definitely want to watch.

Me, hostile? Never.

seaside wrote: 3. Floyd is a huge town read.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight

Russtifinko wrote:Posting because the host tells me I will be a non-participant if I don't.

I will read up throughout today and try to say something intelligent.

Well?

reywaS wrote:hello

Sweet contribution to the thread so far reywaS.

I just finished reading the thread as you can probably tell by my scattered quotes.

It's hard not to focus on the RYM players since I know most of them better. Particularly the ones that have voted for me. It's like a double whammy of me wanting them to be scum.

I historically harbour suspicion of Jimmy so I always second guess my gut. That being said my gut here is telling me he's got something hidden behind that smiling good guy exterior.

Long Con wrote:Bea has opinions about who is Civvie, but none about who is bad. A Mafia member knows every Civvie out there, so can proclaim their trust with confidence. I think bea is Mafia, and I'm going to put my vote on her for now.

*votes bea*

This post set off scumdar pretty bad. It reads tactical, mindful ... I don't like it. No other posts in Long Con's ISO trouble me. It just seems like a nervous first major action.

Probably the worst so far though has been Diiny. Syndicate players please note that even though we're both RYMers I have no idea if Diiny is the different name of someone else or is someone who started playing since I last played, it has been ages since I played on RYM. So Diiny might as well be Syndicate to me.

Diiny has made a lot of noise and really said very little. Tunneled one player who has barely posted and at the time that he chose to target her had way fewer posts than many others guilty of exactly what he accused her of including JJJ who he has allowed to buddy up to him way too easily. For a townie to let a guy like Jimmy wormtongue him the way he has is very off putting. Contrarily if you're scum you love what Jimmy is saying to you and you'd encourage it.

My vote is Diiny.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I remember making this argument on RYM quite a few times when people were screwing around on day 1.

It was always a favourite easy way for me to play supertown as scum.

And you say I influence you...

Have I ever played town cheerleader/head coach as mafia? You bet.

I do it in every game though regardless of alignment, even around here where nobody knows me that well yet and I haven't proven myself.

What do you think Mac? Am I nefarious or not?

Loaded question. I'm just engaging conversation. You nervous?

seaside wrote:All silliness aside. I've had a read through the thread, I haven't taken it all in due only averaging bout 3-4 hours sleep a night these last few days, all the drinking and long drives (not at same time though). I'm currently on a 12 hour drive, having a break from driving, reading this on a tiny screen with a bump y road.

My thoughts are:

1. Policy lynch lurkers.
2. Lynch Mac for having it all worked Putin day 0 but not doing a thing to help town in ANY way but to boast. I reakon he is the rogue.
3. Floyd is a huge town read.
4. Lynch rdw for
5. Zebra is suss as. I'm watching you!
6. I do agree with rdw about targeting syndicate players first.
7. I've had 2 chicken burgers today.
8. Diiny is a huge risk to town and shall need to be constantly questioned.
9. Pressure vote formac 4 now
10. Dbl demerits suck
11. Bit suss on person refusing to vote till the end as knowing where ur mind is can help us make an informed decision.

Ah I see what happened now, you are drinking and posting.

What's suss about Zebra.

bcornett24 wrote:

Diiny wrote:

bcornett24 wrote:Diiny earlier said that he expected so much more out of me, after reading for everything thus far, I would like to point out that many of the players in this game have said little to nothing. Most of the content has been generated by a rather small group of participants.

True, but I don't like this. Don't draw attention away from your own lack of activity; be active! I want to see the brian I know and, if you'll q-quite forgive me, love. That said I'm only skimming so you may have shown that but this jumped out at me

Of the four games, i've played this being the 5th, I have not had the same meta in any game (although, this is open to interpretation), which makes that hardly true.

Meta is not for you to select.

Choutas wrote:Also mind you all people that this is my second game in over a year. I've grown rusty. I'm veteran league material playing with young bucks.

Distancing yourself from your play?

"It's not my fault I lynched a townie, I was rusty... RUSTY."

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't think this discussion has a ton of bearing on who is town and who is not, but it's still important to me so I'll pipe in:

Day 1 is an extremely important phase, and when taken seriously it can be highly productive for town/civs. If the day is highly active and everyone makes their best effort to be involved in the continuing discussion, then there will be enough content for real, genuine suspicion to exist. And I would ask the Syndicateers to remember that in this game, if the town wins the game all of the town wins, dead or alive. This means we can be cooperative and transparent in the thread, and be less concerned about evading night kills and more concerned about eliminating the bad guys. That starts right now.

There are 8 people in this game that want to kill everyone else, and if you're not among them they want to kill you. Don't stand for that! They're trying to freaking murder you. They want to make soup out of your brains and toothpicks out of your bones. I hope we can work as a team right here in the thread from start to finish.

*puts down pom poms*

I remember making this argument on RYM quite a few times when people were screwing around on day 1.

It was always a favourite easy way for me to play supertown as scum.

And you say I influence you...

Choutas wrote:Day 1 vote to rdw. He's awfully quiet. What's up dog is hauling hay that hectic in October?
It's been a long time I don't wanna see you bail on me after all this time.

This is such a fucking typical Choutas thing to do... Trying to play to his meta too hard?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey RYMers, let me give you a little insight on some things that are either polarizing or unpopular on The Syndicate, so you can do them even more to drive them nuts.

~ rainbow lists
~ broadcasting your town reads
~ ISO analyses

But these are like my favourite things!

Assuming by rainbow list you just been like a wall?

seaside wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I was just making a funny dude.

I thought I would have supported the Cowboys but during the game I found myself rooting for the Broncos more. Maybe living in Brisbane is affecting me.

Was an awesome game though, what was it like there?

oh i had an amazing day all round
brazilian bbq, beers, good music, good people during the day
then went to the final and it was insane
i was amazed at how psyched i was for chisel lol
here i was thinking i'd be too cool for them, but opening chords for khe sanh and i was all into it

i mean, you saw that game. it was loudest stadium i've ever been in
the reactions at all those key moments was insane
at the end, seeing pretty much the whole stadium stay for the awards and give respect to the cowboys was really amazing too

Dude I was so fucking pumped for Chisel. When they played Bow River I spat my drink all over my TV screen.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:More importantly, I already have a strong town read. Rbzmncaeaei (who I will be calling Zebra).

I totally share this read. Not to say I have a read on you though, but I'm pretty much certain that Zebra is town.

kneel4justice wrote: But Zebra does seem to have a good (thought out) case on JJJ. But, I don't know that there is much credibility to the voting between Epi/JJJ/Sig. I doubt that they would want to establish that connection - I certainly wouldn't, but, perhaps players here just have a completely different mindset than me.

How is it that you can say that the case is good and well thought out but then move to immediately invalidate it? Isn't the latter action a result of the former being untrue?

Also can someone explain what BTSC is?

I was just making a funny dude.

I thought I would have supported the Cowboys but during the game I found myself rooting for the Broncos more. Maybe living in Brisbane is affecting me.

Was an awesome game though, what was it like there?

Okay so you went to the grand final, so you'd be acutely aware of the fact that shit was happening this weekend.

I got needs and wants beyond tapping a keyboard. I do that all day for a job. Long weekend means sitting on the riverbank fishing for Mr MacDougall. That's a forum free zone.

In fairness to you I don't think that what you're doing here is necessarily scummy. I do think it's reaching though, but I will give you a pass that on day 1 you don't have much to go for.

I think you're just picking on me because I'm familiar and you're doing that thing where you gravitate to people you know at parties where there are loads of strangers haha.

I think seaside tunnelling me is quite hilarious and possibly a slip. What possible reason could an RYM player have for trying to start a lynch party against a vocal and aggressive player on day 1?

Seaside is from the same city as me in Australia so he's fully aware of the fact that it's a long weekend here and that it was NRL and AFL Grand Final week so he'd have to assume I'm not around because of that.

Yet he pokes around trying to infer I'm playing it "low-key" when he's probably the only player here aware of the truth of the matter.

Ninja edit: I went fishing.

Is there really a discussion going on about my potential role based on what like the 1 or 2 posts I've made?

What's the rules on here about swearing?

Sorry friends it was a long weekend here and I've been doing lots of fun stuff. Now that boredom returns I will play more.