The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:13 am Naegi Makoto doesn't know what roles he activates.

Who?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:11 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:10 am Oh LC is either the indy or the civvie activator got it.
what makes you say that?

The synapses in my brain connecting in such a way so as to formulate the thought that then passed a signal to the part of my brain responsible for typing.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:07 am Answer me this:

If you were a Mafia on a day like today how would you play it?
Ask questions like this.

No but really.

Oh LC is either the indy or the civvie activator got it.

Answer me this:

If you were a Mafia on a day like today how would you play it?

Lol if JJJ is the civ vig that killed civ Epi, Epi is going to be a saucy boy.

I think his reaction kind of rules out that he vigged Epi. He immediately assumed you were calling him bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:41 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:39 am Jay if you are leading us down the garden path ... I'm not even going to be mad because it's genuinely impressive.
For the first time in at least a few phases, I'm glad I'm not mafia. We're presented with an opportunity to mount the greatest comeback in the history of The Syndicate, and perhaps the history of many other places too.

So we find glory today.

We shall see, if we can repeat Tree.

Tee hee.

Read Tree. It's glorious.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... =106&t=787

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:30 amOver 300 posts and he has written Marmot's name twice. Not a good look for Kyle.
i'm a casual reactionary player and marmot has done little to be reacted to

Is that so friendo.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:39 am Jay if you are leading us down the garden path ... I'm not even going to be mad because it's genuinely impressive.
No

Jay if you are leading us down the garden path ... I'm not even going to be mad because it's genuinely impressive.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:33 am Of the four of them only Nova and Long Con have received much vote pressure, Long Con coming the closest. Both of them kind of flipped out under pressure. Would the unlynchable bauss have reacted like them?
I don't think LC is the one, at least not the unlynchable boss. GTH I don't think he's bad.

I could entertain Marmot being the unlynchable one given that he has barely given a fuck all game. Joe Cool indeed.

Of the four of them only Nova and Long Con have received much vote pressure, Long Con coming the closest. Both of them kind of flipped out under pressure. Would the unlynchable bauss have reacted like them?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:30 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:28 am DDL has had a consistent position on Marmot that Marmot has been very ignorant towards. I don't really know how to read that?

Day 4 and Day 5 DDL has tried to push for Marmot wagons so I expect when he sees what is going on he is going to be a happy camper? I doubt they are teammates but it's strange that marmot has ignored him so much.
Perhaps Marmot feels no intrinsic urgency to challenge DDL's suspicion given that in his mindset it is known to be false.

Wouldn't DDL push him to engage if DDL was going to the trouble of establishing distance?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:24 pm @MacDougall my current thoughts

juliets and long con are civs, Mac is also a civ, I am a civ.

jay is either a civ or extremely bad but I think probably civ

jack doesn't look good right now. some prodding here would be good

Dom, pennywise, and...inh are absent and should be vig killed as soon as feasible, I think.

The other 5 players off the top of my head I don't have reads on yet. I should probably fix that.

Dragon D. Luffy
Marmot
novaselinenever
Scotty
wolbre04

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:02 am trustfallin'

Dragon D. Luffy - nothing in his posts particularly stands out as glaringly bad. not afraid to give reads early and often
insertnamehere - basically absent for the first half of the game but the posts he's made since returning have been really relevant and insightful at times
JaggedJimmyJay - at times has seemed genuine, right now feels like one of those times.
Kylemii - smells like lemon lime soda
Long Con - i have a role in mind for him, but also this long con looks like a civ. which is weird and notable because i've scumread long con in pretty much every single game we've played in together since my return.
MacDougall - has felt like a genuine mac, he's loud and brash and feels like he's flinging a sword around
Marmot - entire game has been a series of being gone a lot so i guess if he was mafia he'd maybe make more of an effort to be here?
novaselinenever - largely absent, at least recently, but has at times felt genuine, outrage at the lynching of inactives strategy felt genuine
Pennywise - hm...? mafia are less likely to abandon a game after 3 cycles in a new play area because they would hate to miss the opportunity of making 3 new lifelong friends.
wolbre04 - not afraid to have feelings that go against the norm

Over 300 posts and he has written Marmot's name twice. Not a good look for Kyle.

If I had to guess right now I would say that the scum team is Marmot, Long Con, Nova and Kyle.

DDL has had a consistent position on Marmot that Marmot has been very ignorant towards. I don't really know how to read that?

Day 4 and Day 5 DDL has tried to push for Marmot wagons so I expect when he sees what is going on he is going to be a happy camper? I doubt they are teammates but it's strange that marmot has ignored him so much.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:56 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:54 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:52 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:49 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:32 am Marmot asked a single question in his eight posts of pertinence to making reads (about INH potentially voting Scotty). That's a civilian ratio for Marmot.
JaggedJimmyJay called me a civilian for the most minimal of content ever offered in the history of Marmots.

Lynch this bear.
You always lament your lack of credit, but when you get it you get scared.
Your response made me laugh.

Damn, and I already voted for you and everything.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
What a waste of time. This looks suspicious. Is this a joke vote? JJJ isn't getting lynched Day 1, what world do you think we're in?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:42 pm Hey guys, just checking in from work, been here for a few hours, we'll be here for a few more so I'll miss the Lynch. My current vote isn't that serious, and I don't like lynching new people day one, so good luck, I will vote Marmot cuz I had some suspicions with him. Pretty minor stuff as I recall, but it's better than nothing.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

LC's day 1 was comprised mostly of suspicion towards Marmot. I have been in a game with LC before in which we had a face off on day 1 as scum teammates so yes he does this.

It's particularly poignant when the subsequent days were marked with effectively no engagement between them up until last night where LC had Marmot as an orange skittle.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 9:39 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri May 11, 2018 8:57 amI couldn't comment on this at the time due to silence, but in the ROYGBIV spectrum green is directly in the middle so I put it there because his actions aren't swaying me left (cool colors - town) or right (warm colors - nontown/mafia).
Green is traditionally town/Civ read, most people stop at green in the spectrum. I prefer to use blue as Confirmed Town, most often for myself as an unneeded addition to my own list. Full-spectrum representation pleases me visually. I may or may not have also added purple as a revealed and separate Indy... Koro-Sensei will be there in this game if and when he gets revealed. Yellow is null/neutral, and travel through orange to red to indicate rising levels of suspicion or surety of badness.

Koro-Sensei
Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay
Dragon D. Luffy
Pennywise
Dom
Kylemii
novaselinenever
Scotty
Marmot
MacDougall
wolbre04
insertnamehere
juliets

Definitely could be teammates.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:57 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:27 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:23 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:22 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:21 am Okey, I'm definitely on board with that too.

[VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine

Gut reads on active posters - whatever you got - go!
Avito - no
Dragon D. Luffy - no
Dom - no
Dyslexicon - scum
Epignosis - townish
insertnamehere - scum
Jackofhearts2005 - null
JaggedJimmyJay - scum
juliets - town
Kylemii - null
lapluie - scum
Long Con - town
MacDougall - town
Marmot - town
novaselinenever - no
Pennywise - town
Scotty - town
sig - null
sprityo - ab-so fucking-lutely town
wolbre04 - null
Why are some underlined and some not ? And what's the difference between 'no' and 'null' ?

Good lord this is the only post in Nova's ISO that mentions Marmot.

Marmot and Nova have completely avoided each other in this game. Teammate's found!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:10 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:07 am Oh boy now my hopes are all up and I am excited again
You should begin to assemble a theory team for Marmot.

On a quick scan of his ISO, Long Con's name stood out, so I will need to read his ISO in regards to Marmot. I don't think that Marmot is teammates with INH or Pennywise, nor do I think that he is teammates with Wolbre. There was little to no mention of Kyle, Nova, DDL or myself and an absolute ton of interaction with you which is totally wifom.

At first look I would say;

Long Con
Kyle/Nova/DDL
Jay
INH/Pennywise

But the more I read it the more it makes sense that he is bad. A lot of the kills probably make sense if you analyse them as though he had a say in them. (Also Epi survived night 1).

So I'll have a look and see if I can rule out Marmot kinship by looking at the ISOs of LC, Kyle, Nova and DDL. Given Kyle is here being all helpful and shit I might put him last lol.

Oh boy now my hopes are all up and I am excited again

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

The Marmot Fables

Chapter 1. Marmot Distances a Civ Wagon

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:32 am What are the reasons for voting Avito? I read his iso. He comes across as brusque, and hasn't posted anything on topic, aaaaand that's all I've got.

Chapter 2 - Marmot ... Distances Another Civ Wagon

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:34 am I see a similar thing from JackofHearts2005. Why are your votes on him?

But I feel good that the votes are on players with minimal to no content, rather than someone with high content who made one "disgusting" post.

Chapter 3 - The Betrayal of the Marmot

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:38 am I'll bite though.

[VOTE: JackofHearts2005] aubergine

Chapter 4 - The Agent of Chaos: In which the Marmot was just needling the King of Fuck Mountain on Day 1 and totally not trying to get him lynched LOL as if, oh and LOLs to really make it seem jokesey.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 1:30 pm (I'm just giving Jay a hard time, I think he's town)

The rest of you on the other hand, should be lynched carelessly.

Chapter 5 - The Meta: In which the Marmot remembers that he has to self vote or else people might get suspicious.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:50 pm Not caught up at all, so I'm voting off-wagon on myself, whIle sitting on a toilet in a coffee shop.

______________________________________________________

Look imma call it here. This guy has to be today's lynch. There is no reason to civ read him. Everyone read his ISO and see for yourself. It's shit. He defends confirmed civ wagons for no reason. Spends the most energy he has spent in the entire game on defending himself from a wagon that didn't get close to taking off. "Tried to lynch Epi' with the lowest effort ever, like as if he was ever going to achieve his JJJ or Epi wagons. He has faked the suspicion of those two players in particular BECAUSE he knows he won't have to answer for them because they will never get fucking lynched.

Marmot bad. Lynch.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:51 pm Either way, something you said does give me an idea Mac. It is going to be difficult given the time constraints in 24/24, but we have nothing better to try as far as I can see.

First, everyone needs to select the two players you think are LEAST likely to be mafia members. Please respond quickly. Don't include yourselves.

Kylemii
MacDougall

Jay
Wolbre

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:40 pm Jay given you've voted him perhaps you will do better at seeing if there are any logical teammates for him. I couldn't see any.
Pennywise. Look at DDL's effort to orient toward an inactive lynch of Dom specifically. Even my wrong ass did think Dom was an ideal first choice given his long-established history of low posting.
I just scanned his ISO for Pennywise and he has soooo much content about and with Pennywise. I wouldn't think he would engage with and talk about a teammate that much.
Why not?

I just don't think scum do that? I think there is more evidence to suggest scum teammates avoid each other in thread than there is to suggest they stage these choreographed debates of distancing amazement that people think they do.

Also this particular brand looks all very trustworthy. Read it yourself and find me some Pennywise content in his ISO that looks bad?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:40 pm Jay given you've voted him perhaps you will do better at seeing if there are any logical teammates for him. I couldn't see any.
Pennywise. Look at DDL's effort to orient toward an inactive lynch of Dom specifically. Even my wrong ass did think Dom was an ideal first choice given his long-established history of low posting.

I just scanned his ISO for Pennywise and he has soooo much content about and with Pennywise. I wouldn't think he would engage with and talk about a teammate that much.

Jay given you've voted him perhaps you will do better at seeing if there are any logical teammates for him. I couldn't see any.

Ugh this analysis thing is going to take too long. I got like a tenth of the way through DDL and can't be bothered.

At face value he looks civvie. I couldn't see any logical teammates for him.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:23 am Jay looks civ, tinfoil aside. He is playing the same as in FE. I mean I am open for a tinfoil but at this point I'm not sure if the risk is worth it. Maybe later after we actually lynch baddies. Mac is decent, albeit less obvious civ than Jay. But what I said about Jay applies to him.

I like Kyle in this game. Juliets I like somewhat less. I don't remember who said that but shes mostly making easy points and stuff that is easy to agree with. Can very easily be civ, but also easy for a bad to make. I haven't liked wolbre's guts since the start and I think his pursue of INH is forced. Could see myself voting there if we don't lynch an inactive. Ok scratch that I have someone I wanna lynch other than Marmot.

Did I already run out of active players? Well the others are interchangeable. There is some big tinfoiling about INH since he actually bothered to show up which could suggest team coaching, but then again, he is an inactive who came back. A mislynch of him is worse than a mislynch of say, Dom. The problem is that by picking one now we are basically gambling the game. Then again the town is so fucked that gambling may not be a bad idea.

DDL. There is a lot of content here about players who are still alive. Do you still hate Wolbre?

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Would also entertain a Marmot vote.

I'm going to read some potential teammate combinations.

Dragon D. Luffy

DDL is a civilian because other than Jay and I he has been the most vocal presence and appears to be trying to solve the game.

insertnamehere

INH is a civilian because he seemed good at the start of the game before disappearing. Epignosis had a town read on him. He actually came back after not posting.

JaggedJimmyJay

Jay is a civilian because he has been trying the hardest. He has put himself out there more than anyone. Being wrong isn't being bad.

Kylemii

Kylemii is a civilian because he tone reads well and hasn't pinged me. He has been a consistent presence.

Long Con

Long Con is a civilian because he told Jay to fuck off and it sounded genuine. He hasn't disappeared.

Marmot

Marmot is a civilian because he has been posting a bit and making occasionally funny quips.

novaselinenever

Novaselinenever is a civilian because he has accused the more vocal players with a level of assertiveness I would not expect a scum Nova to have.

Pennywise

Pennywise is a civ because his early game posts tone read well.

wolbre04

Wolbre04 is a civilian because he has been a consistent presence all game and, like Nova has gone after strong voices which surprised me.

I wanna see more people do dis.

Marmot, Long Con and Pennywise have the worst reasons.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:52 pmI'll follow you to the end dude.
It'd be neat to know why.

I agree. It's weird and creepy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:34 pm Mr Jay.

You went from voting Nova to voting with an apparrently silenced Nova. I find this suspicious.
I don't give a crap who votes for who. Is DDL a civilian?

I dunno but the first sentence is lame. It's a lie for a start given who votes for who is one of the most key things to analyse. It's also aggressive, dismissive and rude.

DDL could be King Kong for all I care given I am talking about you.

If DDL voted for Nova and then randomly switched to Kyle, and Nova also voted for Kyle, how would you read it? Answer me without the lame bs snark please.

Mr Jay.

You went from voting Nova to voting with an apparrently silenced Nova. I find this suspicious.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:55 pm Kyle you seem hostile and tense under pressure
It's a million degrees and I'm really dehydrated and if we fuck this up today I probably lose so yeah I'm a little tense.

I get it.

Kyle you seem hostile and tense under pressure

I am a mother.

A mother ... fucker.

As in ... you get it.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:27 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:24 pm what do the different hot sauces represent?
Hey scummy. I am ... voting you. Take that.
I don't want to be dismissive of you but I'd rather we skip to the part where you give opinions on who's mafia instead of doing whatever it is you're doing right now.
So you're saying you're mafia?
i'm not mafia

I'm not sold

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:27 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:24 pm what do the different hot sauces represent?
Hey scummy. I am ... voting you. Take that.
I don't want to be dismissive of you but I'd rather we skip to the part where you give opinions on who's mafia instead of doing whatever it is you're doing right now.

So you're saying you're mafia?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:24 pm what do the different hot sauces represent?

Hey scummy. I am ... voting you. Take that.

[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine

Reason: Reverse thoughts

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:30 pm Aight. I say given the numbers everyone just make a wall post broken into names and offers a brief answer to the below question.

What, if anything, is a reason to civ read this person?

Sound ok?
That's all I'm doing.

I will do it a little later today. I am sitting waiting for a doc appt now so my posts are limited to phone.

The coincidence of Jay's last post and that role reveal is amusing.

RIP Juliets.

Aight. I say given the numbers everyone just make a wall post broken into names and offers a brief answer to the below question.

What, if anything, is a reason to civ read this person?

Sound ok?

Is there a preferred methodology for this Trust Fall business?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:10 pm Let's play the why are they a civ game?
Sure.
Kyle and Sloonei like to call this "Trust Fall", but I don't like that. Why is the trust falling? What does that mean? I don't get it. No thanks. I'm not on board with the nomenclature.

Yeah Trust Fall makes it sound like a turn of the millennium nu-metal album title.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:14 pm a question:

if jay is mafia then where is his team

Where is anyone's team?

The fact that I can't place any teammates here makes me very sad. I am usually quite good at seeing teammate interactions but there has been nothing particularly pingy in that regard.

Perhaps I will try to analyse interaction patterns to see if there is any strangeness afoot.

Let's play the why are they a civ game?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 7:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 7:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:42 pm Yes, after dominating the civilians to a perfect record through five day phases with the finish line so close, only *now* do I become demoralized.

Y’all make no sense.
I don't get what you are trying to say here?
I have a phone-it-in attitude right now, which is being being called evidence of my being evil, and that makes no sense if I am on the verge of a perfect victory -- or at least considerably less sense than I am demoralized after playing like shit.

I feel the same way with a side of too ill to function

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 7:51 pm I understand why I am in this position though. There's no reason to trust me at all beyond vague shit like "tone", and I wouldn't figure anyone would care about that in my case specifically under these conditions.

So the people who are giving me a pass are hard to take seriously. Long Con, DDL, and Mac have not wavered in their trust of me despite my continued pants-on-head failure in this game. I'd figure on two evil-doers in that group at this point.

Well in my defense:

1. You have done nothing suspicious except be wrong
2. I have also been wrong so suspecting you for being wrong is hypocritical as heck
3. I was silenced yesterday and probably would have got my tinfoil on pretty hard if not for that
4. My ability to play here has been affected by bedrest and medication

In respect to point 3 though you still just sound civvie as balls. If you are bad then good day to you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:45 pm who said "demoralized"
If y’all cannot tell that I am demoralized right now then you need to take lessons on telling when people are demoralized

Literally everything I have done in this game has been wrong. This is the worst I have ever been. I have no idea how to proceed. This is the planet Jupiter.

Spare some of that pity juice for the rest of us please

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