The Syndicate

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nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:31 pm Speed is fine. Drago not so much.

Nova is already MVP. Mindmelds all over the place.

Michelle, TH, and rej fine. Jay, LC, Mac, Dom, fayt need more data. Did I miss anyone

Speed is fine.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:34 pm Oh yeah, Speed and LC exist. Let's move off these stale wagons and lynch one of them instead.

I'm inclined to sheep Epi re: speed, and I haven't seen anything that made me feel anything positive about him.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Speed is voted for no reason.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:45 pm Lol I said at some point that speed was fine and looking at his iso now i cannot fathom why I had that thought

Mistake released and poop buried.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:13 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:26 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:19 pm Hmm, would scum Nutella stop pushing me or continue pressing the very likely lynch? I'm inclined to believe the latter. So right now, Nutella is in good looks.

Rej is the leading wagon, not you.

Oh right. Gonna have to rethink this then. @Nutella do you suspect Rej?

Yeah, I guess I do. I've waffled a bit and don't feel amazingly strongly about it, but I like the connection that Mac drew between him and Fayt.

Since Rej flipped cat this now reads like you using my wrong case to tie a townie to him.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:31 pm Speed is fine. Drago not so much.

Nova is already MVP. Mindmelds all over the place.

Michelle, TH, and rej fine. Jay, LC, Mac, Dom, fayt need more data. Did I miss anyone

Also buddying Nova out the gate. The false dichotomy here with Speed/Drago is pingy as fuck too. Especially since we now know Speedchuck was a cat.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:46 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:06 pm Nova, do you have reason to doubt Drago is the cat?

I'm not sure right now. Most of my thoughts there were linked to my Dom suspicion and Drago being the one Dom was casing, as well as my experience with him. There are a lot of flashes of his civ self in how he's behaving and being stubborn. I'm supposed to reread and reassess some stuff in a bit so I'll see how I feel especially with the whole "that's what he wants you to think" perspective.

See how at pains he is to answer this question meticulously. Townie Nova would probably have just been short here.

I'm sniffing what you're pooping down.

So my literal only concern towards you is that you have been pretty much 100% buddying me the entire game. What gives?

I can see TMI on her day 1 towards LC. She had a little bite at Speedchuck that looks like distancing and she took a defensive position with Rej. Generally her tone was pretty bad but the ESL is a bit hard to parse.

Yeah look I think it's Michelle too.

Okay so I really like that I can see genuine thought behind Fayt's posts. I know Jay was pretty adamant it was her but he's also a fart face so who cares. Nutella seems kinda gamesolvey but I can never clear her because her range is so massive. Likewise Nova. If we lynch wrong today well, it's probably because it's one of them.

If someone can provide a bit of an objective cliffnotes version of why Dragomir is bad that'd be good because he tone reads town to me. If there is something empirical that says otherwise then I'd acquiesce this weak ass read though.

I'll see if an ISO of Michelle leaves me feeling anything about her.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:00 pm Think Michelle is europe time so she won't be here

YOU ARE EUROPE

Whoever was questioning why LC is dead, the simple answer is "because he was widely town read".

There's a possibility that they thought he was the Pinscher and info was behind the town read too, but at the end of the day it's not a confusing kill.

Alright SCAMPS.

Let's go through the actual motions here instead of the dumb ones. Let's start with GTH.

[mention]Fayt[/mention] [mention]Dragomir[/mention] [mention]novaselinenever[/mention] [mention]nutella[/mention] [mention]Michelle[/mention]

Be here in exactly 36 minutes.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:46 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:06 pm Nova, do you have reason to doubt Drago is the cat?

I'm not sure right now. Most of my thoughts there were linked to my Dom suspicion and Drago being the one Dom was casing, as well as my experience with him. There are a lot of flashes of his civ self in how he's behaving and being stubborn. I'm supposed to reread and reassess some stuff in a bit so I'll see how I feel especially with the whole "that's what he wants you to think" perspective.

See how at pains he is to answer this question meticulously. Townie Nova would probably have just been short here.

Not this late and after being wrong about Dom, but he's still good I think

Why are you in this guru like mode? And don't try to tell me that you aren't because you are. Explain why.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:32 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:07 pm Jay is town. Don't try lynch him.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:37 pm Tom & Jerry is the fucking best. Dogs > cats though.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:56 pm Cause I said so

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:57 pm Dragon D. Luffy can you explain to me how you're gonna have Scar in the poll but not Simba? The disrespect smh.

Opening with a strong town read, alright. The "Don't try to lynch him" is laughable. False bravado followed by attempts to divert by cracking jokes and using the theme/host, then a dud when asked for the why.

Drago is bad.

This is a pretty good read. Nova is town.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:50 pm I'm town, don't waste your time. You're welcome.

You know who is town?

Me.

Fuck you and your smile. You've been so clean all game you should be dead.

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] I'll help you solve some shit. Give me your notes.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:32 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:43 pm You know I'm town and I know that you know it because you are bad.

Or maybe my reads are good? Why should I suspect you? It's crunch time and you want me to include my town reads in a PoE? That makes no fucking sense.

This is a townie.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:06 pm Nova, do you have reason to doubt Drago is the cat?

I'm not sure right now. Most of my thoughts there were linked to my Dom suspicion and Drago being the one Dom was casing, as well as my experience with him. There are a lot of flashes of his civ self in how he's behaving and being stubborn. I'm supposed to reread and reassess some stuff in a bit so I'll see how I feel especially with the whole "that's what he wants you to think" perspective.

See how at pains he is to answer this question meticulously. Townie Nova would probably have just been short here.

Personally I think it's Nova. Motherfucker has been all calm and blendy and weird.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:28 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:44 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:40 pm Michelle or Fayt. Hmm.

haha this is hilarious. We both helped you survive yesterday ans now you find us scum? Are we playing the same game?

You know who else helped me survive? Nova and Nutella. You know who's left in the game? Mac, Nutella, you, Fayt, Nova. You know who's confirmed town? Mac? Who the fuck am I supposed to suspect? Myself? Don't bitch about something irrelevant.

You seem town

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:27 pm Macdougall is the Pinscher

Whoa I am mod cleared. Who wants to fuck with me?

I will miss day start again. So I'm gonna roll with nut on her Drago hunch ONE TIME. I shall bury her if it's wrong.

If the last wolf concedes I'll give them $10.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:31 am Michelle's is someone I've been liking less and less. Felt like she was beating around the bush with Jay in how she was handling him, she talked herself into voting him in a weird way lol.

I think I remember thinking something like that about her too.

[mention]Michelle[/mention] speak to me. Show me your inno child.

Interesting last sentence. It's a good way to look at it. I'd say Dragomir fits that profile well. Maybe Nova?

Should we look through Epi's suspects?

Thanks man.

Cases people, get your cases, succinct, long-form, verbose, mundane, get your cases while they're hot. Send em in.

I'd make cases but I'm playing the role of facilitator.

Where's that thing.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:31 pm Fayt, Nutella, and Drago are my suspects.

Can you unpack that Drago dealio. I've got nothing feelings there.

I wanna say that I think Fayt is probably mafia.

But like, I don't wanna just coast to lynch her today without at least getting some good feels about other players.

The only player who has given me genuine civ vibes today so far is LC.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:34 pm I just voted fayt right away because she was the obvious next candidate after Jay's flip and the consensus vig target that didn't happen. I'm not just going for the path of least resistance, I definitely think we need to talk through our other options but I think she is the logical place to start. If you disagree please engage with me on that point. LC did so a bit regarding how yesterday's lynch went, so that is at least something to chew on but it didn't make her look particularly better in my eyes.

A LIKELY STORY. WHAT NEXT, ELEPHANTS WITH PANTS ON THEIR HEADS?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:53 pm I actually also wondered if Mac deliberately planted the seed for the Jay lynch and I fell for it

By deliberately planted the seed, do you mean ... make a case? Because that's a pretty pointed and flavourful way of describing a very easy to describe thing there.

One minute nut has me top town, next minute she's preparing to snap vote me lmao.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:49 pm

me @ the jay flip

Fuck that, Jay looked weird af and we managed to get him lynched which is no meant feat. I'm proud even if he flipped dog. Motherfucker had it coming.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:40 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:38 pm Yeah I can see your side of things. We can try Dom first if that's the consensus.

Why shouldn't we try you? Your extreme eagerness to slam the lynch on Fayt despite the latest behavioural counter-evidence is concerning. And now you're all too willing to go along with a Dom lynch. The last Cat can easily support the lynch of any Dog.

This is kinda how I feel at the moment. She just wants to lynch the path of least resistance.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:17 pm Can other civs like get heaps civvie and make themselves obvious to me so this isn't so hard please. You know, do civ things?

civ things = voting fayt imo. she's the clear choice based on both combined POEs and all the juicy reasons Jay had. I'm not saying we should just let jay have done our work for us, but I think she is the most logical conclusion here. I do need to reconsider michelle and maybe even drago though, in case a fayt flip doesn't pan out and we need to keep solving.

Nah civ things would be like, analysing. Prodding people. Being shouty. You know, that civ shit.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:33 pm So I go to look at Mac's ISO to see if I can see why he's your most trusted player. Then I see this ugliness:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:31 pm Speed is fine. Drago not so much.

Nova is already MVP. Mindmelds all over the place.

Michelle, TH, and rej fine. Jay, LC, Mac, Dom, fayt need more data. Did I miss anyone

All this is how I feel. Can we be friends?

You declaring rej and speed as "fine", and Mac just jumping right on that with support.

Whatever. Cool cool cool. I'll just keep reading.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:46 pm I guess Mac does have his doggish looks here and there.

It's really hard fabricating a case on me isn't it LC.

Can other civs like get heaps civvie and make themselves obvious to me so this isn't so hard please. You know, do civ things?

Oh ... lame.

Jay has more wim than anyone. He outed when he tried to make out he'd not kill TH. Never look back. Self vote.

Jay: I'd never kill TH.
Also Jay: Iron Man Experiment. A million interaction analysis. Good old fashioned Sprityo lynch.

Yawn

I think Jay has been intensely scummy more or lesd this entire game. Has been caught lying several times. Has lost two teammates and is now just seeing how much he can bullshit and get away with. He put more effort into finding a way to make a huge case civ clearing himself than any single case against Mafia. Compare the effort he's gone to to make himself look civ with the effort behind the Sprityo mislynch. Jay gives zero fucks about being townread usually.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:42 am I'm going to bed. @MacDougall tell me I'm right.

I love it when you give me attention.

Ummm I think you are.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:09 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:44 pm @MacDougall I promise it's not me. Should we just go ahead and lynch Jay?

Nah we should just lynch who he says to lynch until it's glaringly obvious he's a cat.

like we have to play for the sake of playing.and enjoy mislynching townie me for eg

You don't have to play along...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:03 pm Tbh I just think it's 100% between nutella and Jay.

Tell me why the hell I killed TSP. Come on dude. It doesn't make any sense. This isn't even the moral question of Turnip Head, it's just obvious. Clear your way through the generic bullshit WIFOM and think about it.

You randomly started talking about how he's so town and then he died.

I definitely think that’s why he died. Attributing that kill to me is what makes no sense. Ermagerd WIFOM is not good enough. I’ll explain in greater detail later because nobody is paying attention.

Jay is a cat but fuck it

[VOTE: Fayt] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:44 pm @MacDougall I promise it's not me. Should we just go ahead and lynch Jay?

Nah we should just lynch who he says to lynch until it's glaringly obvious he's a cat.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:03 pm Tbh I just think it's 100% between nutella and Jay.

Tell me why the hell I killed TSP. Come on dude. It doesn't make any sense. This isn't even the moral question of Turnip Head, it's just obvious. Clear your way through the generic bullshit WIFOM and think about it.

You randomly started talking about how he's so town and then he died.

Worthy of thought.

Rej lynched by a single vote on day 1.

Flipped wolf on his wagon.

Why did Speedchuck not just vote for LC?

Tbh I just think it's 100% between nutella and Jay.

Jay, Fayt, Nutella and Nova were the ones who ended up on that shitpile lynch. If one of them isn't fur I'll eat a wheelbarrow of cow manure.

That Sprityo wagon was pure shit. Nutella and Jay should be policy lynched for ending on it.