The Syndicate

@Porscha since you're here.

Neon voted Pyxxy day 2 and day 3.

I want to just lose to them for it. Plus Pyxxy pushed Neon pretty badly.

Kate said Neon is a filthy busser. Are they? I didn't think they were in my experience.

@Neon are you a filthy busser?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:39 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:38 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:34 pm [VOTE: SVS] aubergine
the Scotty Kate team theory continues. WOOP WOOP.
I don’t remember hearing that theory.
He makes his theories up as he goes along this game.
why are you picking and choosing the wrong quotes to respond to?

Astute observation.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:35 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:47 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:35 pm oh do I need to take this nutella greencheck seriously? this is a real question, I couldn't figure out the hinting mess between you dennis and nutella and I was eager to be done with catchup
Possibly a good look for Kate given Pyxxy would know it wasn't a green check if Kate was mafia.
was kate the one who said she had green check? i'm confused how it includes kate
No Nutella just assumed it and said as much.
HAHA!!! oh nutella said she had green check on kate? But couldn't have pyxxy faked the sentiment anyway??

What? No.

I explained it in a further post.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:34 pm Since we’re not in lylo and multiple people have proposed a Kate/svs pairing it may not be a terrible idea to go there today. For science.
That's just such a bad and ungoofy idea. Killing let's say a doctor would be scientific

The reality of the situation is that unless you or SVS are able to provide a pelt today, one of you dies today or tomorrow in all worlds.

Obviously if we miselim today and then have to resolve you tomorrow we lose if you are t/t.

So you very much need to...
a) If town solve the game like the game depends on it today cuz it kinda does
b) Be persuasive and convincing about your reasoning for not suspecting SVS
c) Just go belly up if mafia lol.

Well Nutella and Dennis. Two dead town. Conspired to deduce Kate had green checked Nutella due to a post in which Kate cryptically stated "I feel like we should be listening to Nutella. Does anyone else feel that way?"

Pyxxy reacted there like the possibility could have been there.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:47 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:35 pm oh do I need to take this nutella greencheck seriously? this is a real question, I couldn't figure out the hinting mess between you dennis and nutella and I was eager to be done with catchup
Possibly a good look for Kate given Pyxxy would know it wasn't a green check if Kate was mafia.
was kate the one who said she had green check? i'm confused how it includes kate

No Nutella just assumed it and said as much.

Fwiw my unwillingness to press on it was because.

a) Dennis was basically not attempting to find mafia and needed to go
b) I wanted to force a dynamic where Kate and SVS would self resolve by not pushing them and forcing wolves to shoot into them if they were town, or make it obvious they are the mafia

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:09 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:02 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:54 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:52 pm TSP should have been elimed like 4 days ago. Even before Pyxxy honestly.
You have played with me before how can you possibly think this
You cannot expect me to townread you when you make it deliberately hard to work with you and instead solely rely on things like juxtapositions from your high-posting wolf games, which can easily be juxtaposed.
I’m not the one shielding your pet suspect
Who even the heck do you think my pet suspect is? I don't even know who I suspect. Talk plainly.

Do you write proofs like this? I hope not.
SVS and Kate are hard shielding each other with no justification. Mac is unwilling to press on this right now. I trust Mac’s instinct for one more day, and I find SVS independently townie. I don’t find Kate particularly townie, but Kate is also being shielded by Dennis. I think Dennis’s shield on Kate is a pocket attempt right now. I don’t know if it’s working because I can’t decipher Kate. Wilgy is doing the worst vote analysis I’ve ever seen. Neon did an ATE earlier today. Mac is Mac. That’s my view of the game

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:07 pm Does anyone want to speak for Kate's credibility
I still think that one between Kate/Porscha makes sense.

I'm starting to think it's Kate due to Porscha coming around on me.

Also I don't think it's out of reason that SVS and Kate are teammates. Someone more educated than me tell me why this is incorrect.
It’s an obviously possible game state we’ll deal with in the future

Future is now fudgermothers.

There that was easy Porscha.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:56 pm Kate seems much more worried about Kate’s credibility than Dennis, for some reason

TSPs last post.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:17 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:02 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm

Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.
I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?
So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?
Explain why Wilgy unvotes Dennis when Dennis is safely at 4 votes as a wolf, ending in a coin flip and nearly dying in the process?

Neon voted Pyxxy 2 days running.
Exactly to make you ask this question. Also are you sure there's no vote manip going on?

@tutuu was yesterday's lynch a tie?

Neon is a humongous busser. She nearly got her teammates lynched in one of the last games (silly Dennis and goofy fs).
I was just browsing Pyxxy's ISO and he pushed Neon relatively firmly. Don't want to go there.

As if the host is going to answer you. Read the eod post. It was 3/3 at eod.

Of course I'm not sure about Vote manipulation? Should I just not make the read because of an outlandish possibility?

Maybe Pyxxy's flip was janitored. We better not read their spew in case it's wrong.
Maybe unlikely but not outlandish.

Or the votes were normal votes and Wilgy literally nearly killed himself at EOD for no reason.

Noting Kate is choosing to talk about NAI post curse nonsense instead of answering my question.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:00 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:58 pm I elaborated days ago.
Okay and you feel no need to reevaluate in light of further flips?

Remind me of said elaboration please.

@Kate you are not allowed to disregard this.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:08 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:03 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm

I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?
So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?
You just really wanna kill me huh?

@MacDougall, I liked your assoc between Kate/SVS, but is it not more likely that one W and is just comfy to have their buddy around?
Possible, but as I've pointed out I'd say unlikely.

I am not sure I would have seen a town be pocketed to the extent they'd need to be. It would be mold breaking stuff.

If one is pocketed it's probably SVS not Kate though. Kate is the one pushing SVS as lock clear without required reeval and ignoring the possibility of SVS being mafia.
I like it.

I think at this point, you being the only one to observe as to why I'm town has me either deeply pocketed or correct on your alignment.

Kate not seeing that almost feels forced at this point.
Pocket denied.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wait, so are you pocketing me or not?

Yes voting you is the next stage of my plan.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:02 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?
Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.
I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?
So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?
Explain why Wilgy unvotes Dennis when Dennis is safely at 4 votes as a wolf, ending in a coin flip and nearly dying in the process?

Neon voted Pyxxy 2 days running.
Exactly to make you ask this question. Also are you sure there's no vote manip going on?

@tutuu was yesterday's lynch a tie?

Neon is a humongous busser. She nearly got her teammates lynched in one of the last games (silly Dennis and goofy fs).

I was just browsing Pyxxy's ISO and he pushed Neon relatively firmly. Don't want to go there.

As if the host is going to answer you. Read the eod post. It was 3/3 at eod.

Of course I'm not sure about Vote manipulation? Should I just not make the read because of an outlandish possibility?

Maybe Pyxxy's flip was janitored. We better not read their spew in case it's wrong.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:08 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:03 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?
Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.
I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?
So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?
You just really wanna kill me huh?

@MacDougall, I liked your assoc between Kate/SVS, but is it not more likely that one W and is just comfy to have their buddy around?
Possible, but as I've pointed out I'd say unlikely.

I am not sure I would have seen a town be pocketed to the extent they'd need to be. It would be mold breaking stuff.

If one is pocketed it's probably SVS not Kate though. Kate is the one pushing SVS as lock clear without required reeval and ignoring the possibility of SVS being mafia.
I like it.

I think at this point, you being the only one to observe as to why I'm town has me either deeply pocketed or correct on your alignment.

Kate not seeing that almost feels forced at this point.

Pocket denied.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:42 am So I said this once many pages ago, but oftentimes the town is out and loud and spinning their wheels. Let's all take a collective deep breath and just take a moment to consider those that aren't a part of this scrum.

Wilgy
Dennis
Falcon
Tsp

Kate is a very very good town player. Pushing a list of town like this is far more likely to come from mafia Kate.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:03 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?
Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.
I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?
So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?
You just really wanna kill me huh?

@MacDougall, I liked your assoc between Kate/SVS, but is it not more likely that one W and is just comfy to have their buddy around?

Possible, but as I've pointed out I'd say unlikely.

I am not sure I would have seen a town be pocketed to the extent they'd need to be. It would be mold breaking stuff.

If one is pocketed it's probably SVS not Kate though. Kate is the one pushing SVS as lock clear without required reeval and ignoring the possibility of SVS being mafia.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:44 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:42 am So I said this once many pages ago, but oftentimes the town is out and loud and spinning their wheels. Let's all take a collective deep breath and just take a moment to consider those that aren't a part of this scrum.

Wilgy
Dennis
Falcon
Tsp
at least 3 town here

So it turns out. Maybe even 4.

@DrWilgy what you think of this?

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?
Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.
I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?
So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?

Why are you removing Scotty and SVS from the equation?

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?
Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.
I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?
So again, that leaves us with WILGY and Neon. What am I missing here?

Explain why Wilgy unvotes Dennis when Dennis is safely at 4 votes as a wolf, ending in a coin flip and nearly dying in the process?

Neon voted Pyxxy 2 days running.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?
Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.
I don’t know Porscha’s wolf meta. I don’t usually deal with metas or remember them.

So you’re saying she’s volume cleared?

I have played a lot with her and I've never seen her break her meta like this. @Neon very much should share this read.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:58 pm I elaborated days ago.

Okay and you feel no need to reevaluate in light of further flips?

Remind me of said elaboration please.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:25 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:23 am Also side note:

Can someone who’s thought about this break down the proposed flavor of this game? Since waymond is mafia, should we assume the other mafia are the other main characters from this movie, namely the mom and daughter? I would expect Jamie Lee Curtis to be town in this configuration.

The mom has a thing for googly eyes.

I have googly eyes. Kate has googly eyes.

I don’t think this is a town power.

I don’t see Kate targeting herself or her partner targeting her. I don’t think Kate is bad just based on that

Thoughts?
Look at my avatar.
woah.

So is it just you, me and Kate that have been googlified?

Also do you agree that it is a mafia power and that those that have been googlified are more likely to be town?

I could very well recant the idea that the targets are only town since it’s not like anything negative is happening. What’s to stop mafia from just targeting each other?

What are you talking about? It's so deeply NAI you latching onto it is googly.

No Kate if you want to reason with me and want me to reevaluate out of the most logical worlds you have to give me better reasons. From my perspective you are either a wolf or pocketed. Your conviction in your SVS townread requires elaboration.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Riddle me this: how does Porscha have 218 posts and only voted in 2/4 days?

Show me a single Porscha wolf rand where she made 218 posts.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:51 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:34 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:07 am

Mac, I say this in the most loving. Respectful and goofy way possible but not every aspect of every game is about you.

^{Svs and I are not one mind meld. We've disagreed here. She didn't think Dennis was civ, I did. Same with wwa. We are at odds on you also apparently.}

Dennis described us "able to read each other's souls." We are just VERY VERY rarely wrong about each other. And no, we are not masons. I am a vanilla civ.

If you're civ, and I do think you, let's work together to win this one.
There is no world in which you are both town. There is no argument you can use to persuade me of that. We are on day 5 and you two have been shielding each other the entire time and I'm supposed to believe a team of Wilgy/Seanzie/Porscha/Neon leave you two and myself alive?

It's not a thing. If you are town you need to consider that and vote out SVS.
Would you like to make a goofy wager on it?
Yes.
I will win though.
I've asked for elaboration on why your both so strongly reading each other town and all I've been told is basically "godread trust me" when the only logical way 1 of you can be town and still alive is if the other one is pocketing you so no. Explain any single scenario in which SVS and you are town and the mafia aren't bothered by it?
Because no offense to her, seriously, but she checked out of this game. She's barely playing. Why kill her?

Because she is being lock town read?

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:37 pm I even lock townread you both yesterday and faked mech on you to extend the "masonry" to three and the wolves killed TSP instead of one of us 3.

Because you both thought I was pocketed when I was projecting that mindset specifically to resolve whether the wolves view that masonry as a threat.

The wolves didn't view it as a threat. Which makes no sense. TSP is a bigger threat to take to F7 than a 3 player town bloc of SVS, Kate and Mac?

In what universe?
This one apparently. Think outside the box. I really thought I'd be dead today, so I'm feeling exactly as goofy as you're feeling rn.

Please reassess svs. Also, can you tell me why you're so adverse to wilgy.

I also don't recall ever saying you were pocketed by anyone.

If you are in fact a townie, the answer lies in wilgy, Porscha and neon.

Please reassess SVS?

Persuade me to. SVS is currently voting and pushing me. Why are you pleading with me to reassess them and not vice versa? Why are you not actually giving me reasons to reassess and just pleading with me to?

I didn't say you said I was pocketed. I'm saying you thought you had me pocketed because I started townlocking you d4 and voted Dennis. Which I did to force mafia to self resolve in us 3 but then they didn't. Which outs us 3 as always having a wolf in it. Which isn't me.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:04 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:00 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:57 pm was my Nutella vote really that bad >.<
It felt very poorly timed and I am very sure she's town at this point
Plus a few other people whom I think are town are also saying nutella is towny, as an added bonus
iirc the other wagons were Kate and SVS both on 3, and I put Nutella to 4, which somehow ended up killing the Nutella wagon and got everybody all heated

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine to be clear since, shrug, I don't think I have a real grasp on this game

but like, I would argue my stupid vote helped town up Nutella, and I would like idiot credit for that

Pyxxy pointing out that they put Nutella to 4 over Kate and SVS having 3 each is like...

I mean... wow.

In what universe are Kate and SVS ever t/t?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:48 pm booo ahhhhh where did this seanzie come from

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Bad look for seanzie I suppose.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:34 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 am "all you seem to have done all game is carry on about me and/or Kate being bad, then drop it, then bring it up, then drop it and vote for someone else, then repeat. And make a shit ton of confusing player soup posts about all the possibilities. Yada yada"

Picking me to try to chop today is certainly a choice.

Nutella townlocked me. Was killed.
Windward townlockes me. Was killed.
TSP townlocked me. Was killed.

Pyxxy was entirely saveable at the point I voted him out. He then tried to plea directly with me to vote WWA to save him. That EOD spews me town blatantly.

Explain why a mafia team would keep you two alive if you are t/t shielding each other over Lily, Nutella or TSP?

Explain why you both reacted to Nutella and I pushing you (which we mind melded on) by overreactively omgussing and shielding each other?

Explain why you still townread each other on day 5? Why are you still shielding each other?

No answer short of a mason claim will suffice.

Mac, I say this in the most loving. Respectful and goofy way possible but not every aspect of every game is about you.

^{Svs and I are not one mind meld. We've disagreed here. She didn't think Dennis was civ, I did. Same with wwa. We are at odds on you also apparently.}

Dennis described us "able to read each other's souls." We are just VERY VERY rarely wrong about each other. And no, we are not masons. I am a vanilla civ.

If you're civ, and I do think you, let's work together to win this one.
There is no world in which you are both town. There is no argument you can use to persuade me of that. We are on day 5 and you two have been shielding each other the entire time and I'm supposed to believe a team of Wilgy/Seanzie/Porscha/Neon leave you two and myself alive?

It's not a thing. If you are town you need to consider that and vote out SVS.
Would you like to make a goofy wager on it?
Yes.
I will win though.

I've asked for elaboration on why your both so strongly reading each other town and all I've been told is basically "godread trust me" when the only logical way 1 of you can be town and still alive is if the other one is pocketing you so no. Explain any single scenario in which SVS and you are town and the mafia aren't bothered by it?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:32 pm _actually_ maybe I'm subconsciously omgus'ing this tiny era of the thread because WWA immediately suggests investigating me

it does feel like there's scum in there

but god that would be so brave for Kate to post as scum (imo)

and then everybody kinda got busy, Kate included, and with the fuel gone, the fire too perished

yeah idk uhhhhh 1 scum in "svs, windwardaway, Mac and nutella" shrug catch y'all around but like for real I'm back and playing I swear

Weird dropping of Kate sus tho.

Fmpov this group of 4 is 3 town and SVS. Wifom.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:26 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:30 pm Let's pose a hypothetical here.

Let's assume Kate, svs, windwardaway, Mac and nutella are all town.

Who are we looking at now?
Kate posted this y'all tossed it around and then this group all kinda faded away

feels extremely odd

scummy? maybe. but mostly odd

Weird distancing if so.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:35 pm oh do I need to take this nutella greencheck seriously? this is a real question, I couldn't figure out the hinting mess between you dennis and nutella and I was eager to be done with catchup

Possibly a good look for Kate given Pyxxy would know it wasn't a green check if Kate was mafia.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:48 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:46 pm idk about TSP during my catchup he seemed to actually engage when the thread was all gimmicks

he kinda seems like a distant star that you can only observe in action once the 3 bajillion other noisy ass bright ass stars are tuned out

aka he filled a void and I kinda liked that
this man just spewed tsp town
.....glad I could help

More clearly non partnery interactions.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:54 pm @MacDougall what I was more trying to ask is what do you find about SVS that is scummy because in Cosmere she was mostly afk wolfing after D1/D2 (iirc) and I didn't find her in my spec chat escapades with Scotty so I feel like I'm down to sr her being normal because I don't have a better baseline

@Dennis feel free to chime in here too

In which wolf is trying to persuade me to not push SVS going so far as to ping a town for back up.

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

I even lock townread you both yesterday and faked mech on you to extend the "masonry" to three and the wolves killed TSP instead of one of us 3.

Because you both thought I was pocketed when I was projecting that mindset specifically to resolve whether the wolves view that masonry as a threat.

The wolves didn't view it as a threat. Which makes no sense. TSP is a bigger threat to take to F7 than a 3 player town bloc of SVS, Kate and Mac?

In what universe?

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 am "all you seem to have done all game is carry on about me and/or Kate being bad, then drop it, then bring it up, then drop it and vote for someone else, then repeat. And make a shit ton of confusing player soup posts about all the possibilities. Yada yada"

Picking me to try to chop today is certainly a choice.

Nutella townlocked me. Was killed.
Windward townlockes me. Was killed.
TSP townlocked me. Was killed.

Pyxxy was entirely saveable at the point I voted him out. He then tried to plea directly with me to vote WWA to save him. That EOD spews me town blatantly.

Explain why a mafia team would keep you two alive if you are t/t shielding each other over Lily, Nutella or TSP?

Explain why you both reacted to Nutella and I pushing you (which we mind melded on) by overreactively omgussing and shielding each other?

Explain why you still townread each other on day 5? Why are you still shielding each other?

No answer short of a mason claim will suffice.

Mac, I say this in the most loving. Respectful and goofy way possible but not every aspect of every game is about you.

^{Svs and I are not one mind meld. We've disagreed here. She didn't think Dennis was civ, I did. Same with wwa. We are at odds on you also apparently.}

Dennis described us "able to read each other's souls." We are just VERY VERY rarely wrong about each other. And no, we are not masons. I am a vanilla civ.

If you're civ, and I do think you, let's work together to win this one.
There is no world in which you are both town. There is no argument you can use to persuade me of that. We are on day 5 and you two have been shielding each other the entire time and I'm supposed to believe a team of Wilgy/Seanzie/Porscha/Neon leave you two and myself alive?

It's not a thing. If you are town you need to consider that and vote out SVS.
Would you like to make a goofy wager on it?

Yes.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:41 am Mac why do you think you are still alive?

It's a pointless thing to assume.

Night 1 Lily kill looked specifically designed to frame me.

Night 2 Nutella kill looked specifically designed to remove someone who would shield me plus a threat.

Night 3 Windward kill was blatantly required cuz they buried Pyxxy.

Night 4 TSP kill was a reprise of night 2.

I know people hate NKA but the idea that these are kills a team I'm on make is silly. The only NK I permit here is the night 3 kill which is blatantly requires.

Frankly you should be asking Porscha this question. Why kill TSP over Porscha?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:26 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:18 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:41 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:56 pm I’m going to do my DD, but I already sense the lines drawn in the sand RE Kate/SVS and Mac/Wilgy

I still haven’t read the game, but I don’t feel like that’s a terrible place to start looking
Which is easy because.

a) I tried to kill Wilgy for 4 phases and only reevaluated when he nearly kamikazed himself yesterday.
b) Kate and SVS have been blatantly shielding each other with godreads since day 1.
c) Every person I was working with keeps being night killed. Every night kill so far except for Lily has me as their top town. TSP was sheeping my votes and Nutella tried desperately to convince your predecessor to stop tunneling me.
Without looking at your ISO and just at polls… ‘A’ isn’t congruent with your votes
Additionally, ‘B’ doesn’t insinuate guilt

Why do I feel like you have entered today with a clear agenda to confbias a scumread on me.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 am "all you seem to have done all game is carry on about me and/or Kate being bad, then drop it, then bring it up, then drop it and vote for someone else, then repeat. And make a shit ton of confusing player soup posts about all the possibilities. Yada yada"

Picking me to try to chop today is certainly a choice.

Nutella townlocked me. Was killed.
Windward townlockes me. Was killed.
TSP townlocked me. Was killed.

Pyxxy was entirely saveable at the point I voted him out. He then tried to plea directly with me to vote WWA to save him. That EOD spews me town blatantly.

Explain why a mafia team would keep you two alive if you are t/t shielding each other over Lily, Nutella or TSP?

Explain why you both reacted to Nutella and I pushing you (which we mind melded on) by overreactively omgussing and shielding each other?

Explain why you still townread each other on day 5? Why are you still shielding each other?

No answer short of a mason claim will suffice.

Mac, I say this in the most loving. Respectful and goofy way possible but not every aspect of every game is about you.

^{Svs and I are not one mind meld. We've disagreed here. She didn't think Dennis was civ, I did. Same with wwa. We are at odds on you also apparently.}

Dennis described us "able to read each other's souls." We are just VERY VERY rarely wrong about each other. And no, we are not masons. I am a vanilla civ.

If you're civ, and I do think you, let's work together to win this one.

There is no world in which you are both town. There is no argument you can use to persuade me of that. We are on day 5 and you two have been shielding each other the entire time and I'm supposed to believe a team of Wilgy/Seanzie/Porscha/Neon leave you two and myself alive?

It's not a thing. If you are town you need to consider that and vote out SVS.

Also that is a terrible read considering Pyxxy's flip and looking at who was targeted with it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:23 am Also side note:

Can someone who’s thought about this break down the proposed flavor of this game? Since waymond is mafia, should we assume the other mafia are the other main characters from this movie, namely the mom and daughter? I would expect Jamie Lee Curtis to be town in this configuration.

The mom has a thing for googly eyes.

I have googly eyes. Kate has googly eyes.

I don’t think this is a town power.

I don’t see Kate targeting herself or her partner targeting her. I don’t think Kate is bad just based on that

Thoughts?

Look at my avatar.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:18 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:41 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:56 pm I’m going to do my DD, but I already sense the lines drawn in the sand RE Kate/SVS and Mac/Wilgy

I still haven’t read the game, but I don’t feel like that’s a terrible place to start looking
Which is easy because.

a) I tried to kill Wilgy for 4 phases and only reevaluated when he nearly kamikazed himself yesterday.
b) Kate and SVS have been blatantly shielding each other with godreads since day 1.
c) Every person I was working with keeps being night killed. Every night kill so far except for Lily has me as their top town. TSP was sheeping my votes and Nutella tried desperately to convince your predecessor to stop tunneling me.
Without looking at your ISO and just at polls… ‘A’ isn’t congruent with your votes

Perhaps you could solve that by doing the thing you didn't do.

"all you seem to have done all game is carry on about me and/or Kate being bad, then drop it, then bring it up, then drop it and vote for someone else, then repeat. And make a shit ton of confusing player soup posts about all the possibilities. Yada yada"

Picking me to try to chop today is certainly a choice.

Nutella townlocked me. Was killed.
Windward townlockes me. Was killed.
TSP townlocked me. Was killed.

Pyxxy was entirely saveable at the point I voted him out. He then tried to plea directly with me to vote WWA to save him. That EOD spews me town blatantly.

Explain why a mafia team would keep you two alive if you are t/t shielding each other over Lily, Nutella or TSP?

Explain why you both reacted to Nutella and I pushing you (which we mind melded on) by overreactively omgussing and shielding each other?

Explain why you still townread each other on day 5? Why are you still shielding each other?

No answer short of a mason claim will suffice.

That's a fairly disingenuous misrepresentation of my play.

There is no way if Kate and SVS are t/t that any mafia team containing Pyxxy plus any two remaining players has yet to shoot one of them given they have essentially played like open masons since day 1.

And if one is mafia they simply both are.

WWA was so convinced I was town they wanted to flip themselves to convince me to listen to them on Pyxxy lol.

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