The Syndicate

and I've had beers I still got better memory than this dawg

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:02 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:01 am Who was it who said that they'd take TSP as townspewed because someone must've TMI'd him?
mac iirc, one sec

nah dog u fucked up wit dis af

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:01 am Who was it who said that they'd take TSP as townspewed because someone must've TMI'd him?

that was gira bruv

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:40 am Literally never seen any town make that read ever cuz Rondo is a total maniac and everyone has the fear. Explain the read cuz it's hecka tilting me.
my top villa read is tsp

i was asking you why you wolfread rondo, cuz i was falling for his posting

Cuz the mother fuck did some wolfy ass shit even tho he did some town shit cuz that mother fuck can't help himself

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:57 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:45 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:44 am Is it time to tell you why I was entertaining Robyn and voting Bereft? Or should I save it for later?
fuck yeh it's time
Ok so I was asking earlier when Robyn was wavering on their Bereft take, and then Bereft seemed to have listed Robyn as a scumread. I didn't want to force a dichotomy between them because it would go terribly if I was wrong, but I wanted to poke around and see what people's reasons for scum reading Robyn were (the reasons for people scumreading Bereft were very clearly that he was gimmick posting).

Robyn claimed that they could solve both Bereft and me within the first 24hours, which resulted in them expressing a townread on me and what seemed like a throwaway scumread on Bereft,which is why I was trying to gauge their confidence in that read (and unfortunately, I was unable to gauge how confident Bereft was in his read on Robyn but maybe someone else picked that up).

I did actually think, once Bereft posted about the objects and put down the first 3 votes, that he was slightly towny for doing so solving under the gimmick. I believe Robyn picked up on this and decided to commit to the bereft push because it would be pretty easy for others to follow without much convincing. The real hindrance to that would be the dissenters who thought Robyn themself was a wolf, however.

Earlier in the game, I did think Robyn's read on Ranmilia was satisfactory enough that I wasn't going to question Robyn right away. I decided it was mildly towny enough and that I could probably leave their slot and see how it goes, so I took to responding to the scumreads on Robyn to figure out what their logic was (or at least, I tried to). So then when Robyn was trying to butter me up and also ask for my readlist, I decided to be sneaky and just not give it (but also because I was too lazy to type it up) and see what behavior I could observe.

I expressed low confidence in my current reads and no real scumreads. This was true enough, and as you pointed out earlier in someone else's case (TSP?), Robyn went straight for pocketing me after I said that. I decided I would vote for Bereft to force the dichotomy between them, correct or not, but without saying that's what I was doing. I downplayed my interpretation of bereft's posts in order to do this, and made a paranoia post that allowed Robyn to amplify it (TSP picked up on this, but thought I looked bad for sowing paranoia in saying that highposters contained a wolf). What I said in response to his vote on me after I caught up was that he should look for who reacted to that post. The answer should be Robyn, because Robyn immediately echoed that sentiment and told the thread that I was "correctly" voicing concern that there was an active wolf. In my opinion, if Robyn is a wolf, then they ARE the most active wolf commenting on my post. If I were more accurate and someone who was a wolf with Robyn was more active than them, they would not want to amplify that.

Sorry this is so longwinded, and also I'm not voting Robyn right now because I don't want to encourage a hammer until closer to the voting deadline. So I just voted pyxxy so that I'm voting somewhere, lol (sorry pyxxy).

Well then. Aren't we boom.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:44 am Is it time to tell you why I was entertaining Robyn and voting Bereft? Or should I save it for later?

fuck yeh it's time

Literally never seen any town make that read ever cuz Rondo is a total maniac and everyone has the fear. Explain the read cuz it's hecka tilting me.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:33 am nah, i might be skill issuing but he’s my top villa

and i meant the first scenario fir rondo

He's your top villa?

Now I know you're mafia. Thanks mate.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:29 am
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:27 am
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:25 am Maybe the other thread didn't have a N0? That's the only explanation for Porscha being dead now besides a nightstart or daykill
Nah there are many other explanations mate. Like an infinite number of them.
Such as?
Day vigi
Days have different lengths there
Game starter sooner there
Porscha is lying

Need I go on?
Day vig falls under daykill, based on the timeframe which role PMs were sent out I don't think the game could've started sooner, I guess different phase lengths is a possibility but only brings up more questions (like that would mean one thread would be over long before the other one). Porscha could be lying, but it'd be a very convoluted lie and I don't see why they'd lie about that particular aspect.

I agree with all of this. My point was a pedantic one calling you out on using hyperbole.

Okay I'll read it anyway hold up.

I read 3 words of that post and zoned out cuz you're annoying.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:31 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:25 am abi / robyn / leetic have +1 vote?

what a weird game. if this were a mash i’d prolly say it’s a wolf role doing it, but i was gonna vote abi so i might just ignore that

think my vote is gonna be in between bereft / abi
alternatively, these are the workings of TSP

I agree TSP is sus as fuck. This mother fucker is so good at wolfing and people forget how much that mother fucker can mother fuck people every time I swear. He's an absolute menace. And gorgeous.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:28 am Mac, why you have rondo a tier higher than PoE? i was gonna fall for his posting and move to abi

Is this a "why is Rondo sus to you" or "why isn't he fully sus"?

Porscha is lying alone opens up a billion permutations of possibility

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:27 am
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:25 am Maybe the other thread didn't have a N0? That's the only explanation for Porscha being dead now besides a nightstart or daykill
Nah there are many other explanations mate. Like an infinite number of them.
Such as?

Day vigi
Days have different lengths there
Game starter sooner there
Porscha is lying

Need I go on?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:27 am if people lunched in here become treestumps to the other thread

then please. kill me.

This is the far better playerlist what the hell are you talking about? We are currently just straight vibing?

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:25 am Maybe the other thread didn't have a N0? That's the only explanation for Porscha being dead now besides a nightstart or daykill

Nah there are many other explanations mate. Like an infinite number of them.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:19 am
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am hmmm

I don't think Porscha can tell us
So why are you voting me?
homie u have the best questions in all of mafia... u should write an article on MU called "how to ask good questions"
Hateful Mt questions wat better

Leetic's questions are way better at catching me tho

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:21 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:20 am @Dyslexicon all the hot drunk biches do be slayin get in hizzrre
Aren't they in a Euro timezone?

Wow u got me again... I'm a wolf for that too. U got such good questions breh.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am hmmm

I don't think Porscha can tell us
its happy hour shut all the way up and drink
Im not polarized I can drink and think at the same time

I like that. That's attractive af.

@Dyslexicon all the hot drunk biches do be slayin get in hizzrre

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am hmmm

I don't think Porscha can tell us
So why are you voting me?

homie u have the best questions in all of mafia... u should write an article on MU called "how to ask good questions"

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:16 am Pyxxy mad polarised af
Wolf or tiwn?
bich
Ouxxy lock bich

hot bich tho

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:18 am hmmm

I don't think Porscha can tell us

its happy hour shut all the way up and drink

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:16 am Time to pour myself a glass. Maybe in the morning this premonition of disaster can be dealt with.

~ Bereft

come drink with us ya moll

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:16 am Pyxxy mad polarised af
Wolf or tiwn?

bich

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:15 am I can probambly talk to porscha for you but like it might get los5 in the drunkness

Slow down I'm only on my 2nd beer

Pyxxy mad polarised af

THAT THONG THA THONG THONG THONG

Schweppes we know you're a big Robyn stan but that doesn't make you the authority on their alignment unless you have OGI in which case sub the fuck out before its too late lmao.

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:10 am I notice that the compass is just going to keep ppinting North.
Right at her box.

I need to move the box.
But somehow its not her fault the box is where it is. It's the compass' fault for being wrong and I'm getting tired of all this by point.

~ Bereft

Conpass pointing at her box?

Schweppes aren't you British? This blatant sexual innuendo must continue.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:08 am And I love porscga so be mice to her

I'm a recent AMA Porscha was quoted as saying I'm her favourite player to play with of all players so stop flirting with my wife.

We can all get Robyn to post again if we promise not to shame them for getting upset and running away cuz I suspected them. I for one promise.

I assume Porscha was in the other thread but upon realising I wasn't there simply switched here cuz they have spooky powers or something.

Hey Porscha's arrival is actually good cuz she can confirm that all the reasons I say Robyn is mafia are valid. Hey Porscha read my ISO lol.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:57 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:56 am
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:50 am Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr
Do you think there is any indication that robyn and tedxtr may be partnered?
not necessarily
They're your two biggest wolfreads. Are there any interactions between the two that stand out?

Leetic let's face it I'm mafia and you already caught me and all these questions are just window dressing. I'm outed. You're a God. I surrender. I'm mafia because I didn't make world building reads already. That's a thing I get caught for. I can't believe I failed again. I should practice harder.

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:45 am So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

Incidentally Porscha was in fact the 27th signup

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:41 am obligatory "wtf there is 30 pages post"

bet you guys wish you could vote me for it

Porscha jumpscare

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:00 am
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:50 am Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr
Do you think there is any indication that robyn and tedxtr may be partnered?
Hm. About that.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:37 pm i don't really like this robyn heat. i'd describe them as an ez mislunch and don't see any wolfy poasts or any reason to vote them whatsoever

what happened to ranmilia wolf, dys?

I stand corrected

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:55 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:50 am Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr
Do you think there is any indication that robyn and tedxtr may be partnered?

not necessarily

Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr

Not just that, but if you check my progression since then I have actually observed Bereft making abstract reads but they are real.

Also my initial read of Bereft wasn't "is naked mafia and we should just default to them".

And yes discovering that it was Schweppes changes how I feel about their intentionally weird behaviour. Why wouldn't it?

Brb got a meeting.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:19 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:08 pm I mean we don't technically have to consolidate Right Now, but we do need to do it and no time like the present. Bereft was already the spiritual vote, I think that was going unspoken, but I keep on learning that things I think are obvious and going unspoken do in fact need to be spoken.
I do not agree to the bereft vote. Schweppes is a terrible day 1.
Terrible?

Yes Schweppes in particular is a bad idea to be chopping day 1. He's an easy target when he gets into this mode, there is a towniness underneath the surface if you bother trying to read into what he's been saying and he gets better as the game goes on. If he's mafia his team are already positioned to extract max value from his demise, if he's town the mafia are already dining out on the clout from it. It's not my spiritual vote and shouldn't be anybody's.

The reasons that you might want to eliminate Bereft are well within his range as town, there is nothing wolf alignment indicative about him yet. He's at best null, and to me, slightly townie.

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:01 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:53 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:13 pm @MacDougall Can you explain like I'm 5 how you think Robyn has not been towny?
In Robyn I do not see someone who has an agenda to solve the mafia game, but I see someone who has an agenda to appear like they are town and mostly just charm people.

The feeling I get from town Robyn is usually one that is more anxious and concerned with figuring out what everyone is up to. Town Robyn by process ends up getting overtly emotional and irritated.

Mafia Robyn has more emotional control over themselves, and they often end up one step ahead of everyone. They are particularly good at pocketing people by saying specific things that are designed to achieve that goal. For instance Robyn is aware that I have a predisposition for townreading people for lack of TMI and pushing me. Robyn threatened to scumread me earlier for daring to suspect them. But then they didn't, and chose to give me space instead.

I can sense in all of our interactions that Robyn is largely holding their breath and just trying to avoid having me outright bury them. Since I started posting all that Robyn has really done is crack jokes and react.
i am town, mafia is not obvious here. other people are making content and leetic is badgering people. i am trying to figure out where i went wrong because i currently townread everyone... which is also why my reads are worthless as of now

i am not anxious of you figuring out my alignment, if you did that would be good. specifically i am anxious of being pushed by you, i'm anxious of getting pushed by everyone really

if i had to make reads i would list gira at the bottom, but i also don't know how much i believe this

and i really don't qant to chop schweppes here anymore because if it comes down to me/him at eod this day won't end well

everything is a mess and i don't know what to fucking do

It's difficult for me to take this seriously when I wrote this in the post you are quoting...

"Town Robyn by process ends up getting overtly emotional and irritated."

Like ... I don't know whether to presume that like clockwork you're just evidencing your town self or whether you are just taking advantage of the meta I've presented and trying to garner the townread. So I have no real choice but to just disregard it.

And you've asked me no real questions here, you've just made a series of statements that I have mixed feelings about.

Gira seems exceedingly obvious town to me, and having him your highest suspect (or lowest town) doesn't seem plausible.

I agree that chopping Schweppes is not appropriate but I also note that one of my other wolfreads TSP has the same opinion, so while it'd be reasonable to give you points for mind melding with me on this, all it's really doing is making me question whether Bereft is actually a wolf given Ran and WWA are my top town and are the only ones voting there.

And I'll end by saying that being chopped isn't the world's worst outcome, the day has some time yet to go and crumbling whether you are mafia or town is not necessary. Yank your socks up and play the game with us, try to keep the ATE to a min cuz I'm not going to respond to it and you know that I know even if you aren't faking it, you can just switch it off immediately, so do.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:27 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:06 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:53 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:36 pm I've caught up and retained almost nothing I read this is bad

But I'm starting to think Dyslexicon might actually be town lol
I don't buy that Dyslexicon is incapable of making that long post as mafia. It was perhaps slightly towny, so I buy you placing too much emphasis on it though.
Can you elaborate on what you found "slightly towny"?
Effort level. The Gira read was okay. Their treatment of you lacked agenda.
If you find that post "slightly towny", why are you still voting for Dyslexicon?
I voted for Dyslexicon when I made my initial read.

They made a slightly towny post.

Dyslexicon as mafia is capable of slightly towny posts.

They otherwise have not yet moved the needle enough for me to move the vote.
If you had to move off of Dyslexicon, who would you vote?

And you now have your answer.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:11 pm dang and I really like Bereft's play in this game

play ≠ substance for the record

I'm just a sucker for putting on airs

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Nah dog this doesn't pass the vibe check at all. Like I kind of townread you til now but this is egregious.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:08 pm I mean we don't technically have to consolidate Right Now, but we do need to do it and no time like the present. Bereft was already the spiritual vote, I think that was going unspoken, but I keep on learning that things I think are obvious and going unspoken do in fact need to be spoken.

I do not agree to the bereft vote. Schweppes is a terrible day 1.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:11 pm Ftr if Abigail is Neon I’m keeping the vote

Fake and you're outed

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:13 am
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:55 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:50 pm Am I self resolving?
I have no idea, you tell me! You and I are at very different ends of the playstyle spectrum. Which is why I'm putting effort into trying to talk to you, I resolved to try and engage players like you more instead of just schmoozing with Logical Tryhard Crew. What's the best way for us to tell if you're a wolf?
I take offense
to what

It's just a joke m8

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