The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:sig, motel room and MP are about to change their votes to me and hope that you hammer me. If you do it, you will go down as an all time idiot.

Brilliant mafia play. You and motel both deserve the win.

"I voted early for the confirmed scum on a day that if I simply voted for Epignosis (who I had scum read more than I had read Diiny tbh so I could have easily done so), the scum would have won the game."

Yeah nah.

MP - Desparately tried to save Diiny yesterday, voted against his wagon on a LYLO day, a day the scum win with a mislynch. The counterwagon is a dead confirmed civilian.
Motel Room - I have been reading him scum for days. All my previous cases on him were valid. He also voted against the confirmed scum wagon and on the dead confirmed civilian on a day that a mislynch wins them the game.
Me - I voted early for the confirmed scum on a day that if I simply voted for Epignosis (who I had scum read more than I had read Diiny tbh so I could have easily done so), the scum would have won the game.
Sig - See above.
Floyd - See above.

Come on, it's not hard guys. The scum are transparently obvious here.

sig, motel room and MP are about to change their votes to me and hope that you hammer me. If you do it, you will go down as an all time idiot.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:It doesn't matter which of them we lynch, they're both scum. Leave the vote the way it is and let it coin flip I don't care.

Bullsuit.

You and motel room are the final two, and you're securing the town's loss with my lynch.

I guess we don't deserve it after they way I played, but I hate to be the one to ruin the civilians' chances.

You're not even trying now.

motel room wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I think motel room and MP are the bad guys here.

I believe yesterday's poll was split into town and bad. There is no reason a scum would have had their vote on Diiny at the end of the day with the poll split the way it was. If there was a civ on the counterwagon all they had to do to win was jump off one lynch wagon to the other.

Game is over. Motel and MP are bad.

You've been painting me scummy all game man. And this is for whoever else is town too - It's not fucking me. I guess I was the vote that all the scum should have piled on but the fact that they didnt means one that there was a busser in the Diiny wagon and two that they weren't present at end of day. Diiny and MP screaming like all hell definitely makes them a team that wanted the finish line.

Sig would've ended it if he was scum, agreed.

You weren't around at end of day and neither was Floyd. Why are you voting me over MP? This is Still lylo and we Still need to not vote town or scum win and we're this close to turning around this game.

Painting you scum? No, I've been reading you as bad with valid reasons, correctly I might add. Manipulative description though. Valiant effort.

A busser in the Diiny wagon. So either myself or Floyd is that busser then right? You are saying that even though I was here posting in the other game I just let him get hammered? No, you are saying that Floyd is the busser but you're voting for MP for a last minute attempt at distancing in the hopes you survive and can kill me and convince Floyd to vote for Sig or Sig to vote for Floyd. Fair plan. You're right the screaming does indicate they wanted the finish line. You had your vote against the Diiny wagon. You guys were desperately hoping that one of us fucked up royally and flipped off Diiny at the last minute but didn't.

Good effort, but we're chain lynching you. I put my vote on your over MP because you deserve to be lynched before him. I've had you pegged all game, I only have had him pegged since yesterday. You're equally obviously scum though.

Floyd, sig, when you are in LYLO with one of these guys after they kill me, please vote together. Don't turn on each other. Just vote together and we will win.

For the benefit of not allowing you guys to dump your votes on one us at the last minute I will change my vote to MP though.

It doesn't matter which of them we lynch, they're both scum. Leave the vote the way it is and let it coin flip I don't care.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I think motel room and MP are the bad guys here.

I believe yesterday's poll was split into town and bad. There is no reason a scum would have had their vote on Diiny at the end of the day with the poll split the way it was. If there was a civ on the counterwagon all they had to do to win was jump off one lynch wagon to the other.

Game is over. Motel and MP are bad.

Not true, you'll be severely disappointed when I get lynched.

Of course you can see that there is no argument to my point though, hence why you are not arguing it?

Yesterday in lynch or lose, Diiny was eliminated by a single vote 4-3 and flipped bad. If there was a bad guy on his wagon at all, a simple vote the other way almost certainly wins the game for the bad guys. Nobody did it.

Floyd, sig vote with me today and then whoever is left vote together tomorrow and we'll be fine.

I think motel room and MP are the bad guys here.

I believe yesterday's poll was split into town and bad. There is no reason a scum would have had their vote on Diiny at the end of the day with the poll split the way it was. If there was a civ on the counterwagon all they had to do to win was jump off one lynch wagon to the other.

Game is over. Motel and MP are bad.

Checking some things

MovingPictures07 wrote:Regardless of whether Diiny is civilian, he's the easy button lynch right now, since he's been in the hot seat for days. I'd rather put some pressure votes elsewhere, then switch to Diiny if that's what you all decide is best (since it's LYLO, gotta keep unanimous in the end).

I have to say though, catching up I am not reading any bad vibes from Diiny. I'm struggling to understand the case. Someone help me out.

Hahahaha you are so fucking dead you dead fucker.

motel room wrote:this is some softcock shit. No movement in hours. yeahh this is how we'll turn it around.

Ok I'm trying on the pants. ISOs.

Lol yeah right.

motel room and sig just having a chat in btsc about scum related stuff

Diiny wrote:

motel room wrote:There's about 24 hours left

I like that aokiji is exploring his options. this is LYLO. There's no reason not to give everyone a bit of pressure for anything that bugs you. Although yeah I'd be mad if it was as near the deadline as you thought

Yeah sorry that certainly changes things.

Then again I have had a motel room neg read forever.

I have to admit I dunno shit.

motel room wrote:

MacDougall wrote:You just found a really round about way to put your vote on someone who is almost certain not to get lynched. You are 100% definitely bad.

why is he not getting lynched? and why do you think its staying there? sometimes you just have to try a thing

There's an hour left, 2 other players on 2 votes and you put your vote on Epignosis. Bad look. I'd love to lynch you but I'm not voting you right now because there's nobody else here to vote you with me. I think we owe it to the many dead civilians to lynch Diiny anyway. He live too long.

I think Diiny. So there's my vote.

Which of them are you trying to save though...

You just found a really round about way to put your vote on someone who is almost certain not to get lynched. You are 100% definitely bad.

motel room wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Lynch Floyd. It's our best chance at continuing the game. If he turns out to be a civilian well that's tough.

maybe later

Epi

Hmmm

Epi started the day lamenting the fact that nobody would lynch Floyd with him and now we have two voters on Floyd and he is not one of them. Perhaps he wasn't being honest about his feelings on Floyd at all.

Lynch Floyd. It's our best chance at continuing the game. If he turns out to be a civilian well that's tough.

Uh perhaps also quote where yours was more detailed than theirs. You only quoted a blatant no u.

motel room wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Epignosis wrote:And I'm voting motel room.

Me too.

No to both of you im not scum get in the sea

Its busy at work today but this being potentially lylo i'll be back to fight cos I'm not keen on being the goat that gets lynched and loses it for town. Again.

You sound honest. Changing my vote.

Epignosis wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I have 50% shot at being right at this point. No one will lynch Floyd. So motel room it is.

I could be convinced to lynch Floyd man. He's totally not trying at all. Hell it'd be less anxious because if we're wrong we can just blame him.

U bad?

No just honest lol.

Epignosis wrote:I have 50% shot at being right at this point. No one will lynch Floyd. So motel room it is.

I could be convinced to lynch Floyd man. He's totally not trying at all. Hell it'd be less anxious because if we're wrong we can just blame him.

MacDougall wrote:So lylo huh. This is pretty fucked hahaha.

Mac read posts dumbass.

Though, if I were a scum team that didn't have Diiny on it or Motel Room on it, I would kill Zebra and then vote for Motel Room and hope that Mac went bloodlusty and wagoned him...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm fuck. I think Motel Room is bad but fuck.

Epignosis wrote:And I'm voting motel room.

Me too.

So if you were a scum team and you didn't have Diiny on it, who would you kill?

I don't think Diiny is scum.

So lylo huh. This is pretty fucked hahaha.

I consider that very unlucky. I was pretty damn sure of him.

So you expect me to believe that you switched your vote from Epignosis when he was on 2 votes, to FZ when she was on 1 vote because;

a) Epignosis wasn't going to be lynched
b) You thought I would move my vote from Epi (red skittle) to FZ (yellow skittle)

Yet you didn't actually tell me that or ask me to do it.

I find that really hard to believe.

A likely story. Civilian Jimmy would call in sick.

a2thezebra wrote:I agree that he looks bad, I'm just more sold on Diiny.

Do you have Diiny and JJJ as scum together?

a2thezebra wrote:I would prefer a Diiny lynch over JJJ because I think that JJJ is more likely to be misunderstood (and extremely unlucky) this game, but I'm content with either lynch and I'm willing to switch to JJJ if there's a CFD on a player I'm less confident about than the two currently leading the votes.

I'm the other way. Jimmy is the scummiest player in the game and he hasn't even bothered answering to his sins. For a civilian Jimmy I find that incredibly hard to take. Civilian Jimmy would be supatowning on his phone trying to hunt the real scum in the toilet at this point imo.

Motel room who is bad who is good?

Was he bad in that game?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm not going to be here much/at all today. I'm about to leave to hang out with friends and later it'll be football time.

If your town and your vote is on me then congratulations, you're wrong. It happens, but you're going to need to consider alternative theories, because if you allow your ass to simmer on that vote and start basing your other analysis on my eventual mafia flip, you're wasting your time. I'm not asking you to change your mind on me right now, I'm asking you to remain conscious of the other side because I'm not seeing any of that at the moment.

Sucks that you can't be here because you have to explain why you voted the way you did at the end of the day phase.

Situation:

JJJ has bad read on FZ, Diiny + Epignosis
Wilgy has 3 votes on he, Jimmy not scum reading he
Epi has 2 votes, including Jimmy
FZ has 1 vote, MP
Diiny has 2 votes, including Wilgy

Problem:

Doc is nearly lynched and Jimmy not want

Solution:

Jimmy moves vote from Epi (2 votes) to FZ (2 votes) instead of Diiny (3 votes) which would have at least put Wilgy in a coin flip with a scum read.

Other concerns:

It was so late that you gave Wilgy only the option of changing his vote from Diiny to FZ at the last minute to self preserve, but your vote was so late that you gave him non ample time to do so. Also had he come in at the same time as your vote to self preserve vote he would have voted for Epignosis, another scum read of yours to do so, putting Epi into a coin flip, but then your vote would have moved it to FZ. Time was of the essence so this delay could have been crucial to him being lynched. However he did not self preserve vote Epignosis, so that clusterfuck unfortunately did not eventuate.

How this looks:

It looks like your read on Diiny was baloni and that you moved your vote to FZ instead of to Diiny because you didn't actually want him lynched at all.

What happened tree mafia you changed, you used to be active.

If Jimmy flips scum I will be looking deeper into Diiny too. And Floyd's Diiny vote today looks like distancing to me. I still think it's possible that Epi and Jimmy were staging a shit fight but in the harsh light of day it's highly unlikely they were. And I am now capable of aligning all of epi's behavior to civ so he is looking better to me.

Sig why are scum leaning on me?

Epi I was reading the other game and realised that it's possible your day 1 outburst on Floyd was a mixture of random voting and being annoyed that he swapped out of your game but is playing here. Is that a fair assumption?

Well sig just cleared FZ in double time with that.

Sig I believe JJJs vote at the end of the day is fucked as fuck.

Doc was on 3 votes, Epi and Diiny on 2 votes. Epi had me and JJJ and Diiny had Docs on him. JJJ was scum reading Diiny, Epi and FZ. He claimed to not want Doc lynched so instead of leaving his vote on Epi so Wilgy could self pres vote into a tie between him and a JJJ scum read or changing to Diiny for the same reason he voted for FZ. I read that as him protecting one of Epi or Diny, or at a stretch both.

Lynching JJJ is priority. Then it's working out which of the other two his interactions with were worse. I am leaning Diiny after some consideration.

Voting JJJ.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Moving to FZ

Don't want to lynch Doc

TBH I totally expected you to take your vote off Epignosis. You made him unlynchable and you've now gone to red and my argument has even more credibility. If you wanted to save Doc, you could have voted for Diiny. See you tomorrow scumboy.

Diiny wrote:Does Mac's reaction to enrique really read like bullshit to you?

A better questions would be does it read like bullshit to you, or to MP, or to anyone not named Epignosis. And if not then why is Epignosis bringing it up at all when he isn't dumb.

Linki: I pursued various scum reads Epignosis. I have multiple scum reads. Which is normal. Don't try to pretend I am playing at anything. It's not believable.

Epignosis wrote:I want to remind the folks watching at home that Mac said I am responsible for people thinking Floyd is civilian, and that Floyd and I are teammates, yet he won't pull the trigger on Floyd first.

Be reminded that this is the second time MacDougall comes up with some bullshit reason the last hour to pile votes on someone.

Notice that there is a certain expectation regarding what civilians do and don't do (at least according to 3J and Mac)- that's an expectation I have never bought into, but they do. Yet notice how many times MacDougall has asked some variation of "Would I do that if I were scum?" or said "The easiest thing for me to do if I were scum..."

Marinate on that.

Because you are more scum than him if that possibility is off the table, I have had a scum read of you since well before I made that tinfoil read. You know it, you're ignoring it to discredit me.

Hyperbole in the extreme. I am not "piling votes" on you. I have put one vote on. Also seeing enrique exactly imitate caught scum enrique in this game = bullshit reasons to you I guess.

Your third paragraph is words for the sake of words. I have no idea what you are trying to say.

I will leave my vote where it is. I suggest people follow.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Mac, I was kidding. I am not a robot, I am capable of humor.

Liar. You are a Mafia playing robot. I know you are hilarious but it's not usually forthcoming with 10 minutes left in a day with no stand out candidates.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I will be pushing for Epignosis's lynch unless something occurs to make it impossible at which point DFaraday would be a possible vote.

a2thezebra
MovingPictures07
Sorsha
Diiny
DrWilgy
FZ.
JaggedJimmyJay
DFaraday
motel room
TheFloyd73
Epignosis

This is where I am at right this second.

Why am I more town than Sorsha?

Because you're alive. Dead people are just one step away from being undead zombies.

Lol but seriously yes my bad. I left her in there by accident.

Epignosis wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I will be pushing for Epignosis's lynch unless something occurs to make it impossible at which point DFaraday would be a possible vote.

a2thezebra
MovingPictures07
Sorsha
Diiny
DrWilgy
FZ.
JaggedJimmyJay
DFaraday
motel room
TheFloyd73
Epignosis

This is where I am at right this second.

48 hours to reach a decision and your best move is to follow 3J again at the last minute?

So if you had control of my vote, where would you put it?

Epignosis you are making it sound like I am just blindly following Jimmy. This is incredibly disingenous. I called you bad multiple times yesterday. You have consistently been a bad guy read for me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Matt F Dougall.

I am not playing like Matt F at all. I have multiple cases running simultaneously, am being measured and not tunneling anyone. Jimmy's post is a swipe at my credibility and it's unfounded.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply offense to either of you, nor agreement. I just thought it was a funny portmanteau.

I'm not offended, I just don't agree and I don't think Jimmy would be making jokes at me if he was a civilian tbh. Civilian Jimmy in this situation would be using this emoticon a lot.