The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:37 pm This one's on me
Well, you were one vote away from the hammer anyway. Likely didn't change the game.

Oh was I.

Still on me for not doing better. No way I should have been suspected here lol. I should have towned better.

This one's on me

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine his handling of DS was odd. Soft defenses and made a few weird reads on him. The angleshoot thing is an ok look but someone has to be the teammate.

POE is Jay, Long Con, TSP and Duskfall. Jay can't be lynched. I'd lynch TSP and Duskfall before Long Con.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:45 am Mac who do you kill today

I am trying to figure out who not to. Long Con is a lot cleaner than Duskfall off DS interactions. I haven't looked at you yet. But it feels like nobody is going to ride with my towncore which is a shame. If I blow up and Jiwon flips town too we're basically blowing up an autowin towncore. I suppose I have to just powertown my way to getting town read.

Me being suspect and getting votes here is one of the only paths to mafia victory too. If you towncore me + Jiwon + Nutella + yourself + Epi, you have autowin really.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:18 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:14 am
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:12 am I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way

I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point
It's not my fault that nobody has really talked about anything besides me at this point. Hell, when I asked Epi, he refused, and my most recent attempt at getting people to discuss people other than me has failed as well. What would you do if you were in my position?
Well there are two other wagons at this point which you could comment on. Macdougall on me for ??? reasons, don't remember reading anything about me, and you on Jack, who is not even on your wagon which you think is scum motivated I take it?

So like, there are other things going on.

Here DS shows that he's uncomfortable with my vote on him. I left it there for ages.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:24 pm Personally I think dunya has been the most outwardly aggressive in a way that scum could be if they were attempting to power. Not sure if that aligns with their normal meta or not

With no meta on anyone but Dusk really my read at this point before flips is gonna be based off of wagonomics as the day goes on.

Mac needs to put a real vote down. We are past RVS.

My vote still being there, he decides to straight up tell me my vote is bad.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:53 pm
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:24 pm Personally I think dunya has been the most outwardly aggressive in a way that scum could be if they were attempting to power. Not sure if that aligns with their normal meta or not

With no meta on anyone but Dusk really my read at this point before flips is gonna be based off of wagonomics as the day goes on.

Mac needs to put a real vote down. We are past RVS.
Who should I vote for bb?
Self?

Gg

So I ask him to pocket me and he gives me this.

It's subtle but clearing imo. It's not teammate stuff unless you want it to be.

y'all can lynch ziggy if you want idc

just know that jiwon gonna die also so you're probably killing two towns and I should probably just be towncored for how I dealt with the thing and also because I was trolling DS all game

but if you'd rather just be bad at mafia and lynch me because you want beautiful things to die, go ahead

God I wish I could vote Jay today. Curses.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:25 am
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:23 am At this point Nutella should just claim because honestly I'm not bothered looking back to know what people are talking about, I'm sure other towns don't want to have to go pr hunting either. At this point it's been made such a big deal of and it's apparently guessable enough that mafia will be able to sort it out regardless, so may as well just have Nutella hardclaim and have Mac confirm that's her role.
Worth wasting a post to note that... Nutella has hard claimed? I think?

per Jay I wanted to see poll results and dusk fall's name is first and I forgot to change it

also I super think that Jay is scum but statistically I'm fine voting Mac because of game impact. But I'm not sure if Mac interacts about being given a role cop as he did if he's scum. So I changed my mind. Gonna wait on Jiwon I guess.
I'd play the "doing my Civic duty" act if I were scum in that situation. What would you do?

@nutella why would you choose to send Mac info when he was one of your scummiest reads?

She didn't.

You don't care about the roof do you.

Why are people voting for me. So whack.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:08 pm I am rather confused by something.

I've received a message that seems to be a role that's a rolecop that doesn't get their own info but has to send it to other people.

The role that I received was definitely not the person who sent it. The role I received seems very likely to be a town role. The mafia sending a town, another town's role seems weird. It wasn't sent by Dunya either.

The thing that confuses me the most is that everyone who it could be has suggested I am in the POE/suspect. So someone has sent it to me regardless of me being a suspect to them, or it was actually sent by mafia?
let's imagine you're scum and you get this role, what are you gonna do?
Send the towniest sounding scum role to a trusted member of the towncore probably.
Which would be your own. No, let's imaging that YOU are scum and have been sent a townie role by some arbitrary outside presence. What do you do?

What's the point of this exercise exactly? To waste posts?

I would probably just hard defend the person and straight out them in the thread as that role and then kill them the next night or something. I dunno I'd have a lot to think about and don't really see the value in this exercise.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:08 pm I am rather confused by something.

I've received a message that seems to be a role that's a rolecop that doesn't get their own info but has to send it to other people.

The role that I received was definitely not the person who sent it. The role I received seems very likely to be a town role. The mafia sending a town, another town's role seems weird. It wasn't sent by Dunya either.

The thing that confuses me the most is that everyone who it could be has suggested I am in the POE/suspect. So someone has sent it to me regardless of me being a suspect to them, or it was actually sent by mafia?
let's imagine you're scum and you get this role, what are you gonna do?

Send the towniest sounding scum role to a trusted member of the towncore probably.

How bout this. I'll just post this person's role, and you can all discuss what alignment you think this person is?

"Rock n Roll Suicide

When you die (by any means), you can choose to enter a neighborhood with a player of your choice rather than go to dead chat."

Seems town right?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:08 pm I am rather confused by something.

I've received a message that seems to be a role that's a rolecop that doesn't get their own info but has to send it to other people.

The role that I received was definitely not the person who sent it. The role I received seems very likely to be a town role. The mafia sending a town, another town's role seems weird. It wasn't sent by Dunya either.

The thing that confuses me the most is that everyone who it could be has suggested I am in the POE/suspect. So someone has sent it to me regardless of me being a suspect to them, or it was actually sent by mafia?
I am not involved in that strange situation. You got a role, right... not a player? As in, you can't clear anyone off this, but merely have the knowledge that there is a rolecop?

I got a player's entire role delivered to me. This player is not a rolecop. A rolecop sent it to me. A rolecop that sends other people's roles to people. The player whose role I have received appears to be town. Their role does not seem to be a scum role.

I am rather confused by something.

I've received a message that seems to be a role that's a rolecop that doesn't get their own info but has to send it to other people.

The role that I received was definitely not the person who sent it. The role I received seems very likely to be a town role. The mafia sending a town, another town's role seems weird. It wasn't sent by Dunya either.

The thing that confuses me the most is that everyone who it could be has suggested I am in the POE/suspect. So someone has sent it to me regardless of me being a suspect to them, or it was actually sent by mafia?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:03 pm Apparently your suspects are the same as my own nutella, with yourself replaced with me. You refer to Tony as a sort of “alternate” for the POE pool, which doesn’t strike me as a significant departure from my own pool. What does this say to you?

@MacDougall, did Jiwon give any indication of suspicion of you in your BTSC?

Yes he did.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:13 pm Jiwon is confused or something. I don't know why he's voting for me. We are on way lovers. If I die he dies but if he dies I don't die. We had btsc til today and now we're locked out of it and he's decided to vote me.

I am VT but I have a psuedo clear on someone because someone sent me a random rolecop and the role seems super likely to be a town one.

I don't want to out them though.
If he was in BTSC with you and decided to vote for you immediately after, that doesn't looks so great on you.

Did the 'love' end when the BTSC ended?

I haven't been notified as such. I wasn't very active in it. I am vanilla town outside of the random things that have happened to me. I am also Ziggy Stardust. I don't know if that means anything at all here.

Ok lynch me then. Jiwon will die. Hopefully he was mafia. He was pretty towny in the btsc we had though.

Fmpov Jay is obvious mafia tho. Just ignore all his bs today. Jack was my top scum and now suddenly he's off the poll and Dunya dies. Don't even need to humour it for a second.

Jiwon is confused or something. I don't know why he's voting for me. We are on way lovers. If I die he dies but if he dies I don't die. We had btsc til today and now we're locked out of it and he's decided to vote me.

I am VT but I have a psuedo clear on someone because someone sent me a random rolecop and the role seems super likely to be a town one.

I don't want to out them though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:18 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:09 pm ftr this is all reached in hindsight after DS. flipped. and then i notice how he ignored all her posts directed to him. isn't that odd too? she quoted him maybe 4 times (3 times about the angleshoot and once about discrediting his epi read) and not once did he directly respond to her, she who was a solid town read for him. he didn't seem to ignore TSP, Epi, or me or anyone who placed him unfavorably in their rainbows or voted for him (jaggedjack and mac respectively). it doesn't fit my mold of DS. to ignore criticism which made me wonder if he's ignoring nutella cos he literally didn't care or feel threatened by her.
I can understand your perspective in a roundabout way in that I think what you describe applies to Mac in parallel. He paid more attention to Mac than to nutella, but he did nothing with it and stuffed him awkwardly into the POE pile next to leetic and Epignosis -- two players for whom he could more easily justify that placement given his posts. I got the impression that DS cared about Mac's existence but not Mac's posts.

Because I had an rvs vote on him all day that was tilting him.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:28 pm
DS. wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:19 pm Dropping where I am at before I run out posts
Town
Dusk
Dunya
Jiwon
Nutella

Null to scum
Tony
Jack
LC

Poe:
Leetic
Mac
Epi

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 pm DS - Not lynching today (I don't lynch new people Day 1)
And yet you're on me day 1
Nutella is the one that doesn't belong in the top group. He had no engagements with her at all. Epi is probably town because he tilted DS a bit. My POE is the middle 3 plus nutella.
Well I know I'm town so I know he simply had TMI on me. IMO Jiwon is the one that really doesn't fit.

Maybe he just had TMI on Jiwon? I think DS and Jiwon are familiar with each other and Jiwon is considered relatively good so it wouldn't surprise me that DS figures to just try to pocket Jiwon if I'm right about that assumption.

I had my vote on DS most of the day and was scummy. It was an easy way to put a town in the bottom pile.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:04 pm gut feels without looking back at anything:

dunya
Epi
Dusk
Jack
LC
Jiwon
Tony
Mac

Oh please lol.

DS. wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:19 pm Dropping where I am at before I run out posts
Town
Dusk
Dunya
Jiwon
Nutella

Null to scum
Tony
Jack
LC

Poe:
Leetic
Mac
Epi

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 pm DS - Not lynching today (I don't lynch new people Day 1)
And yet you're on me day 1

Nutella is the one that doesn't belong in the top group. He had no engagements with her at all. Epi is probably town because he tilted DS a bit. My POE is the middle 3 plus nutella.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:20 am How memey is this site

Because I kinda just want to quick lynch leetic right here lmfao

Gold

I'm pretty clear off DS interactions so that's cool.

DS. wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:46 am I am personally not a fan of Epi being so focused on post counts while not provided any actual game thoughts

Is he doing that? Cuz like I've never seen him do that?

[mention]dunya[/mention] why haven't you solved the game yet?

Carotenoid be watching like a spectre in the dark

If anyone votes on me from here til EOD they are mafia outing Leetic. Remember that as I slank til EOD.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:15 pm Are you trying to push a leetic hammer, Mac?

No I didn't think about that when I answered your question. No need to hammer.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:08 pm Hey why do I have two votes. That's bad.
Who should I vote for?

Just vote for Leetic man I ain't in a position to be telling people they're wrong.

Hey why do I have two votes. That's bad.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:53 pm
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:24 pm Personally I think dunya has been the most outwardly aggressive in a way that scum could be if they were attempting to power. Not sure if that aligns with their normal meta or not

With no meta on anyone but Dusk really my read at this point before flips is gonna be based off of wagonomics as the day goes on.

Mac needs to put a real vote down. We are past RVS.
Who should I vote for bb?
Self?

Gg

Nah

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:24 pm Personally I think dunya has been the most outwardly aggressive in a way that scum could be if they were attempting to power. Not sure if that aligns with their normal meta or not

With no meta on anyone but Dusk really my read at this point before flips is gonna be based off of wagonomics as the day goes on.

Mac needs to put a real vote down. We are past RVS.

Who should I vote for bb?

LC vote someone else I'm town you scallywag

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:15 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:06 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

girl, do your thing where mac knows whether or not you're town pls.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm thing where mac knows whether or not you're town

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm where mac knows

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm mac mac mac mac

Spoiler: show

dont pretend you have any claim to that shit anymore

Get mad

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:18 am
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:14 am
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:12 am I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way

I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point
It's not my fault that nobody has really talked about anything besides me at this point. Hell, when I asked Epi, he refused, and my most recent attempt at getting people to discuss people other than me has failed as well. What would you do if you were in my position?
Well there are two other wagons at this point which you could comment on. Macdougall on me for ??? reasons, don't remember reading anything about me, and you on Jack, who is not even on your wagon which you think is scum motivated I take it?

So like, there are other things going on.

I am voting you as a welcome to website.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:50 am Do we really have DS in here? Holy shit. Wild times people. Wild times.
I saw it in the circus Maximus discord and then realized Nanook was running it and said fuck it.

Thought JJJ was in the game also but, I guess he backed out?

I wonder why

I'll do my best JJJ impression.

You wouldn't happen to be pooping would you?

Do we really have DS in here? Holy shit. Wild times people. Wild times.

FUN IS STRICTLY ANTI TOWN

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