The Syndicate

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] I'm going to blast Funnygirl.

Bye.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:21 pm what about TH have they done/said literally anything

I think TL is town and TL said they liked TH. That's literally it.

Alright I am satisfied that everything was as it seems in the first place, thanks for letting me get there like a tortoise.

I guess there is a chance it's Marmot and not Quin if all the four nooblets are town.

I guess the POE is literally just

Marmot

Quin
FG

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Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:57 pm if you shoot funnygurl before marmot i will literally shit my pants

I mean, I guess this is a teammate if FG is mafia right? Lol.

Can it be that simple?

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] can we get ISO links for the new people in the host post plz?

I am going to read the game for the next while as though FG is lock mafia and try to work out these other four noobs.

If FG is the mafia I do believe it clears everyone from the OG group including Marmot and also the TSP/Alison dichotomy that I am holding on to. I don't believe this is a 5 mafia game and if it's 4 I don't believe all 4 of those players are town. Is there even a possibility that they are?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 pm i stand corrected i think enrique's town

even though my ego has a booboo now

I don't follow this;

Makes post that looks like shading Enrique
Alison says it looks good actually
Agrees that it does, implies that's what she meant
Updates her read to say that she was wrong

Doesn't fly. Probably scum.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:51 pm It looks pretty good for Enrique actually.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:52 pm yeah that's what i'm thinking. i like it when people go against the grain like that. it's not enough for me to form a read on him though

*scrunches up face*

That really doesn't look like what was happening. It looked exactly like you were insinuating that Enrique was a viable Vulgard partner, before Vulgard flipped.

If you wanted people to view that as a good point in Enrique's favour, why didn't you just say that it was?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:50 pm i think it's too early to pile on vulgard. i think valid points have been raised against him but like sloonei said i wanna let him breathe. when i get a lot of pressure early i tend to become defensive and unproductive.

we're here to find wolves plural. we won't get far narrowing the discussion down to one person this early

that being said, enrique saying that vulgard "seems fine" when the rest of us disagree is imo an important data point to hold onto for now. it's spicy. i disagree but it's spicy

Then again, this is exactly what a Vulgard teammate who thought there was a chance for him to survive the day would do. Hedging and positioning Enrique as a viable partner candidate in the event that they can't stop the chop.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:08 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:06 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:59 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:57 pm if you shoot funnygurl before marmot i will literally shit my pants

I am currently of the view that LC tried to position Marmot as a viable chop on the day that vulgard was getting reamed so it's a hard sell.

i don't see it.

So you've read LC's ISO?

Only his interactions with/about Marmot. This post exists:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:52 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:43 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 pm

I don't remember a ton of detail but we had a discord, we could read the thread and discuss our thoughts, and we had daily choices on smaller or larger ways to influence the game (such as giving a certain player a power buff or something) and then a few phases in we entered the thread for a day and helped town solve the game and then left again

Could you guys do anything with the lynch or anything destructive from there?

I really don't remember sorry lol

You guys gave me a golden apple or something and I forget what that did, but it was something positive, and then I think you could vote on the day you were in the thread?

This was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.

I'mma follow LC on the self-vote.

Marmot skimming and not fully reading is scum-shifting.

but it's nonsensical and I don't see anything actually gaining traction from it.

And if LC was trying to stage real distancing he would have staged real distancing. This isn't that.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:24 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:22 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:14 pm actually my first real read is that vulgard is fishing 'cause look at their read on alison too

you're gonna need more to catch alison as a wolf she's a goat

What do you mean by "fishing?"
And I don't know that. I haven't seen Alison play at all.

"i don't like this entrance" "i don't like that entrance" "i don't like that read" when we're at rvs stage

it looks like you're trying to form reads and give an appearance of wolf hunting when a) it ain't really the time for it and b) your suspicions are of little substance atm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:27 pm im voting for myself now but i got my eyes on you vulgard

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:46 pm i was just talking to my roommates about vulgard or i guess more specifically "i type exactly how i speak and this kid thinks i'm fake"

and they were like "it's cool that you type the way that you are"

and i was like "LOL" i mean no but thanks

This is so unlikely to be a Vulgard teammate.

Either you ignore Vulgard, shield Vulgard or you just bury Vulgard. She's done something else which if mafia would be the kind of thing that you would be too scared to do which is refuse to pull the trigger on her suspicion. That last post also is just crazy to view as made up. If FG made something like that up entirely faking it in order to spew herself clear off Vulgard then good for her.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:59 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:57 pm if you shoot funnygurl before marmot i will literally shit my pants

I am currently of the view that LC tried to position Marmot as a viable chop on the day that vulgard was getting reamed so it's a hard sell.

i don't see it.

So you've read LC's ISO?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:04 pm okay well

you at least have me considering it


and i do have some bad feels about her tsp push and think tsp is likely just town with a weird/confusing role but admittedly would be mischop baity enough that alison has some plausible deniability on it

idk

If TSP is also town then the Alison read goes from semi-tinfoil to raging inferno. That TSP himself isn't reacting to her with OMGUS is keeping him in my sights. I am getting to the point where I can nearly rule out both of them being town.

Yeah all Sloonei's content is pointing towards is FG mafia. Onto FG.

Sloonei's spew clearing Alison/LC hinges almost entirely on reading Alison's content as not teammate viable. Alison's range is too good for that read. Alison can't be read off spewing herself clear from wolves. She might be able to be read from WOLVES spewing HER clear, but not the other way around.

Alison has been a force for pushing suspicion and cases on several dead town players. I believe Alison hasn't been putting in the effort to town read people the way she does when she is town.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:57 pm if you shoot funnygurl before marmot i will literally shit my pants

I am currently of the view that LC tried to position Marmot as a viable chop on the day that vulgard was getting reamed so it's a hard sell.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:55 pm mac i really think alison is like pretty hard spewed town by lc/vul

shoot fg

Save me the time and quote the content that you believe does this.

And keep in mind how much distancing Alison and I did in Space Invaders.

read sloonei's fuckin novel im p sure it's in there

I am reading Sloonei's ISO atm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:55 pm mac i really think alison is like pretty hard spewed town by lc/vul

shoot fg

Save me the time and quote the content that you believe does this.

And keep in mind how much distancing Alison and I did in Space Invaders.

Okay I'm being a problem. I'm going to simplify.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:49 pm Nutella you are literally the only person right now who I have no interest in reading any content that further town confirms you because you're either mafia who has got themselves cleared above all town or you are town and you are not getting killed until f3.

why am i not getting killed


alison prob goes before me but.... pls

Killed by town before f3.

Does Alison self resolve? Will she cop a stray mafia bullet if she is town. Do I need to kill her or can I trust that the town will eventually get her before she gets to parity if she is mafia? Is killing her a potentially game losing move to make if I am town? Help me.

She can't have any more than one partner if she is mafia. This person would be in the group outside of the thread.

How many chops do we have until parity if we have two wolves remaining?

In a bubble, Alison has pushes on (whether light or hard) every dead town player. If you are town and she pushed on you, then from your perspective you should be reading her as completely anti town. This is the same Alison that when I have towned with her recently we basically just tag team curb stomped mafia without expending any effort whatsoever.

So the question is, is she in her rare anti-town but town mode, or is she just powerwolfing.

The latter is decidedly more likely.

Nutella you are literally the only person right now who I have no interest in reading any content that further town confirms you because you're either mafia who has got themselves cleared above all town or you are town and you are not getting killed until f3.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:46 pm Mac are you blowing up fg or

I am going to literally kill at least one confirmed town so I am not going to recklessly use my ability until I have near confirmation or no other choice.

I am 100% going to use it today or else I will just die anyway.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:44 pm Town players in this game have not done a good enough job making it obvious that they are town. Net result: Mafia can just shoot at Sloonei and we get little to no information from it.

This is semi absurd.

With all due respect you are not me, I'm going to self resolve and I don't care how you feel about you feel about my thought processes as a result.

So in reality this exercise is clearly not the most optimal use of my limited energy so fuck it.

Sloonei's POE would have been literally FG and that's all. So FG is at the bottom tier in level 1 worlds.

Nutella

Everyone

FG

Town players in this game have not done a good enough job making it obvious that they are town. Net result: Mafia can just shoot at Sloonei and we get little to no information from it.

First cab off the rank to solve.

Who DOESN'T want Sloonei to die.

Answer, deepwolves who he townreads.

Sloonei FMPOV was shot at twice. Syn preventing the first kill, then obviously him actually dying.

So Sloonei has been an absolute lock kill choice for the mafia since jump street.

Which means that his reads are fire and he was totally fear killed. There is no wifom reason for Nutella particularly to kill him. I need to read his ISO to determine who him being a desperation fear kill by mafia otherwise spews town.

I guess I have no choice but to lock Nutella in to my townclear number one spot even though I hate it.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:32 pm This has become a clusterfuck. I'm gonna blow myself up after I figure out the best target. I'm just gonna go to Vulgard/LC spew.

I nominate funnygurl or quin

God damn you all for making me actually solve this game.

Everything Alison seems to do has an agenda of pushing a yeet against someone who's townspewed themselves fmpov. Tracing back to her first fucking push.

I have a TOWN role that gives me information

Information was that there is a Comprehensive Assassin and a Comprehensive Detective.

Nutella has claimed the Assassin. Sloonei is a dead town detective and the literal host has spewed the other role as mafia fmpov. But if she's mafia she wouldn't claim so fuck it.

Alison is powerwolfing and has scumsided. TSP feels like a jittery slipping and sliding open wolf. FG and Marmot look townspewed by LC to me. Quin just farted rainbows of town energy everywhere. Hyena felt town.

Tl;dr reeeee

This has become a clusterfuck. I'm gonna blow myself up after I figure out the best target. I'm just gonna go to Vulgard/LC spew.

I hate you all

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:26 pm And Alison claims to have read the TSP iso smh

Quote the post please

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:17 pm Let's take a minute to talk about how we both skipped a day. You say you don't know why you did. I know why I did cuz its part of my role. I recall someone claiming that they may have caused it. Who was it that said that?

I don't know why we both skipped. I just got a PM from nanook saying that I was out of the thread D2 and couldn't talk or vote. Then he pinged me in-thread to inform me that I was rejoining the thread. You're very obviously softing some kind of flavor cop with the thesis/antithesis talk so if our roles are linked somehow it's possible that you phasing out of the thread pulled me with you.

I am a time travelling steampunk. On odd days I can use my secret weapon which is a suicide bomb. On even days I am out of the thread but I learn "something about the game". I learned of the existence of Sloonei's role and the comprehensive assassin but nothing specific about them.

Let's take a minute to talk about how we both skipped a day. You say you don't know why you did. I know why I did cuz its part of my role. I recall someone claiming that they may have caused it. Who was it that said that?

The only proof will come too late.

If Alison dies and flips town TSP is gonna die anyway. This is the correct play cuz we will lose to a mafia Alison in my opinion.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:11 pm Youre dying in a minute or so so leave your legacy miss supertown.

Same as before. TSP is bad, FG -> Marmot -> whoever Hyena suspects most in the 4 is my POE after him. nutella and Hyena are town.

You sure you don't wanna say more?

Also there is an antithesis to Sloonei's role called a comprehensive assassin. Don't know any more about that than that.

I will give you time to leave a legacy you're satisfied with before we both die k?

Youre dying in a minute or so so leave your legacy miss supertown.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:02 pm Here you moved off the Poison vote to vote Vulgard as a resignation but keep slinging shit at Poison.

What I am seeing is someone who went about building negative momentum towards a heap of town players d1 but was forced to townside and vote Vulgard because of the gamestate.

You are simultaneously accusing me of trying to pocket Sloonei by bussing Vulgard and then claiming that I was forced to townside when I really wanted to exe Poison. I was one of the big pushers on Vulgard early too. It doesn't make sense to say that I was pushing both Vulgard and random townies. I didn't have to sling shit at Poison if I was mafia there either. I could just vote Vulgard, collect my towncred and let town talk themselves into a D2 Poison exe which they would have done with or without me throwing shade.

The thing is I don't need to convince anyone I'm right cuz I'm just gonna kill you myself Alison.

I don't believe you have a dayvig, you're just saying this to troll me or because you're tunnelled. You did the exact same thing in Radiohead where you said you had a nuke that could kill all the mafia or whatever.

Not the correct way to go about this.

Tick tock

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:09 pm Mac I just went into your ISO and I can show you posts where you slung shit at nutella and shaded Poison just as well as I did. So you can fuck off with your push on me. Everyone suspected Poison D1 and you trying to make me seem like the villain because I pushed Poison annoys me.

That's cool but I'm town and I am gonna flip at the same time you do.

I'm gonna die too when I do this.

Dear town.

If Alison is town kill TSP.

I'm gonna clear her from the POE regardless cuz otherwise if she's mafia we will just lose to her.