The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:33 pm did everyone like the setup? i thought it was pretty well balanced number and pr wise.

yes

wow lol

Read FS's ISO, can be wolf but don't think she is.

Why are you opposed to Ender/Falcon @Seanzie?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:38 pmNo

If this is in response to my question I asked you, then please go read Fingersplints ISO. It's less than a page, so it shouldn't take long.

It was in response to your post talking about whether you're here alone.

Irt your Fingersplints post... ok.

No

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I have no desire to participate in this EOD phase. This is where my vote will stay. Please vote me out so I do not have to go through another day of it.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:05 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine Just to get my vote off my vanity from last night.

Who actually does this lol

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:18 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:13 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:10 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:03 pm I might also be a tiny bit scarred from Hally and C4 snowing me in Highway Mafia. I knew something was wrong there but never could quite SR the two active voices driving conversations forward. This time I'm going straight to those slots instead.

Who do you feel those voices are right now?

Ender and LC. More variety today but throughout D1 those two were in the perfect spot of being town read by virtue of having thread presence whereas everyone else barely had a pulse.

I've seen them as partnered from D1, so how about we

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

LC is voting Ender and further on you call your POE Ender and FS, then you eventually just vote me because NAA says I'm pocketing you.

This game is legitimately on crack.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:06 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:01 pm Well this is spiffy. How the hell did it end up at Mac and me.

Mac and you? What votecount are you reading?

The one where a lot of people have 1 vote and I have 2 and you have 3?

I am self voting and 2 votes is not much more than 1. You're acting like these are formed out wagons.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:28 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:25 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:22 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:16 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:09 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:46 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:10 pm

What..? No..? You do realize this is a set up with only 2 miss elims right?

So... Even a PoE of 4 is losing right now. Basic math..?

So who's Maf when I flip green?


You've got static world views that don't have to be true...like, you're not even truly considering them to possibly be wrong.


You have MR as lock town. That's absurd

I've answered this question repeatedly & Seanzie recently mentioned it too - which basically tells me you're pretending to be here, but you're really not paying attention to anything I've written, or anything that's been discussed in the thread as of recent.

I'm sorry, but I read your answer of a world w/o me as Maf as "Mac + 1", and that's pretty damn narrow, static, and superficial IMO


There's a difference between pretending to be here and just not buying your explanation.


Also, "pretending to be here"...like your superficial (and self admittedly so) read on me? That's not pretending?

Ok, so your plan is to tell me you're going to flip green, and ask me to form a larger PoE (which is also losing)... I'll stick to my original reads & my own game solving process tyvm. If I'm wrong, I'll look to see why my reads were wrong in post-game like I do every time.

I'm giving my perspective and asking for someone to convince me of another world that makes more sense and that has the possibility of being winning, Mac says too tired, and Falcon arbitrarily says my reads are too specific and I need to revert to a guaranteed losing stance. I don't really know what to make of it other than /ignore.

Are we just waiting for the cop to come in and save us? That's a plan, not a very good one... But as long as we're rolling dice, I don't see anything else netting the win.

If LC flipped red first, where would you go from there

If LC flipped red, I would flip Falcon and Mac.

If Ender flipped red, I would flip Falcon and Mac

If Fingers flipped red, I would flip Mac

If Seanzie flipped red, I would flip Falcon and Mac

If Porscha flipped red, I would flip Mac

If MR flipped red, I would throw my entire decision making tree in the garbage and quit mafia

Did I miss anyone?

This is the worst post in the history of mafia if you are town.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:01 pm Well this is spiffy. How the hell did it end up at Mac and me.

Mac and you? What votecount are you reading?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:06 pm Can you flesh out your sus a bit?




Also, why are you so (seemingly) comfortable w NAAs lock town read on you? I'd think it would make you wary of his slot, no?

I already made this read Falcon. Seanzie "didn't like it" and MR just ignored it.

But I'm mafia trying to pocket you apparently.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:17 pm @Seanzie does it help if I say it's a Mac read?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:18 pm And I've used it before

You really are difficult to deal with when you get in this mode dude.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:59 pm [VOTE: ender] aubergine

Why is Mac going over?

Well I have spent most of today trying to argue with NAA and shielding Falcon and seemed to be getting somewhere before I went to sleep. But then I woke up to NAA having convinced Falcon that I am a wolf trying to pocket him (or Falcon simply being given an out by him to vote a town) and as such lost all of will to give a shit and voted myself.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:41 pm I say we do another four way rand again.

"Obvious town MR".

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

This town is awful and I no longer wish to be a part of it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:10 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:06 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:28 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:25 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:22 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:16 pm

I'm sorry, but I read your answer of a world w/o me as Maf as "Mac + 1", and that's pretty damn narrow, static, and superficial IMO


There's a difference between pretending to be here and just not buying your explanation.


Also, "pretending to be here"...like your superficial (and self admittedly so) read on me? That's not pretending?

Ok, so your plan is to tell me you're going to flip green, and ask me to form a larger PoE (which is also losing)... I'll stick to my original reads & my own game solving process tyvm. If I'm wrong, I'll look to see why my reads were wrong in post-game like I do every time.

I'm giving my perspective and asking for someone to convince me of another world that makes more sense and that has the possibility of being winning, Mac says too tired, and Falcon arbitrarily says my reads are too specific and I need to revert to a guaranteed losing stance. I don't really know what to make of it other than /ignore.

Are we just waiting for the cop to come in and save us? That's a plan, not a very good one... But as long as we're rolling dice, I don't see anything else netting the win.

If LC flipped red first, where would you go from there

If LC flipped red, I would flip Falcon and Mac.

If Ender flipped red, I would flip Falcon and Mac

If Fingers flipped red, I would flip Mac

If Seanzie flipped red, I would flip Falcon and Mac

If Porscha flipped red, I would flip Mac

If MR flipped red, I would throw my entire decision making tree in the garbage and quit mafia

Did I miss anyone?

I'm starting to TR you, so let's work together instead of against

Ok, kill Mac, he's trying to pocket you.

He does do that

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Do I? When as mafia have I tried to pocket you?

What is the pro mafia agenda in me coming in after day 1 not posting and hard shielding you all day.

You really just have no qualms voting me out right here?

Crazy times kids. Crazy times.

The day is ending in 66 minutes and these are the wagons. No doubt this end of day will end well.

Oh my god

My take on LC is that he was too towny d1 for him to be able to fake as mafia but then on day 2 he's been super scummy ever since i showed up. I have him as plausibly with Ender and felt like there were periods during day 1 where they were working in lockstep to push pro wolf agenda. It got to a point where it became too obvious for me to genuinely believe it though.

Anyway I can't hash this out with you further it's midnight. Try to convince Seanzie or something in your worldview I dunno. Can't believe you still actually suspect me after this tbh.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:58 am Okay so if I were to rescind my scumread on MR, how does your statement that the four of us can't be town still apply? @NotAnAxehole

Your read on MR is irrelevant to the read.

If you can't explain it to me, you're asking me to just simply forgo using all of my own logic, ignore my intuition on Falcon and simply defer to your mystery read.

You're asking Macdougall. To do that.

NAA

Okay so if I were to rescind my scumread on MR, how does your statement that the four of us can't be town still apply? @NotAnAxehole

Okay so as of this very second who do you think the mafia are?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:55 am If it helps, the full read is:

I think it's impossible for me, you, Falcon, MR to all be town.

All it would take is for me to be right about Falcon and for you to be wrong about MR. What is so outlandish about that?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:51 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:50 am Listen, I'm not going to cry over MR going over, but if you're town and you town read Falcon confidently, I'm town, I town read MR confidently... And we're both willing to let that slide, then we've lost the game, and we might as well concede now.

So the ball is in your court if you want to go down the road of me determining if you can find a logical pairing outside of that or not. I've already made it clear I think that's impossible, so I need help seeing the light.

Why do I have to be the one to acquiesce when I am the one that has demonstrated history of reading Falcon accurately in situations like this? Recent, frequent history?

You don't have to, you can go ahead with flipping MR, be wrong, and the game will be over because our situation will be impossible to re-consider. I'm asking you for your read on the situation because I've already given mine (I think it's impossible for you and Falcon to both be town).

Why is it impossible for us both to be town?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:04 pm who's a rotten veggie?
Poll runs till Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
2
18%
Voters: falcon45ca, Master Radishes
falcon45ca
2
18%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, Lime Coke
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
2
18%
Voters: Porscha, DrWilgy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
NotAnAxehole
0
No votes
Voters: None
Porscha
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
2
18%
Voters: EnderWiggin, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sleep (no yeet)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
host/mods/spec
3
27%
Voters: dunya, Scotty, Justplayingitcool
Total votes: 11

An Ender red flip on the surface would rule out Seanzie for level 1 reasons. The most egregious day 1 player by vote alone aside from MR and Ender, is Falcon. Wilgy is a magnet for scum votes generally. If you are going to forgive MR for it and ignore the fact that dead town Wilgy was voting MR in this tie then you just flip Falcon after Ender red. If I cannot convince you to flip MR after Ender red, flip Falcon.

If Ender flips green and I still can't convince you to flip MR, you just flip Falcon next.

All of this pending assessing the full outcome of day 2 which remains to be seen. Playing out day 3 speculatively before day 2 ends is just wasting posts imo.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:50 am Listen, I'm not going to cry over MR going over, but if you're town and you town read Falcon confidently, I'm town, I town read MR confidently... And we're both willing to let that slide, then we've lost the game, and we might as well concede now.

So the ball is in your court if you want to go down the road of me determining if you can find a logical pairing outside of that or not. I've already made it clear I think that's impossible, so I need help seeing the light.

Why do I have to be the one to acquiesce when I am the one that has demonstrated history of reading Falcon accurately in situations like this? Recent, frequent history?

Are you asking what we do next if we chop Ender and he flips mafia?

I don't know. Read his spew and evaluate from there? Kill MR anyway? I dunno I just want pelt someone not solve the entire game right now.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:44 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:41 am My legacy if I die would be to not chop Falcon anymore because you can't really afford to and I think he's town. It would be to kill Ender and MR because if neither are mafia I'll eat white dog shit.

My current appraisal is that I do not think Falcon is mafia but I am not going to cry about his chop because the info we'd glean and what I believe his townflip would do to the gamestate is positive things. If we are going to mischop anyone let it be him. And if I am the dumbass and he flips mafia, all good. I'll take the L there and try to dig my way out of the bullshit tomorrow. I won't be voting there or encouraging votes but I also won't be screaming bloody murder if he gets run up and goes over.

Right, so if we're not killing Falcon & MR, who are your other 2 aside from EnderWiggin.

The other 2 not being mafia, but being chops

Why do I need another 2 exactly?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:36 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:34 am [VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

See now I have an issue cuz like you've been right about me being mafia so many times and here you're sussing me when I'm town so like... what do I do with that? I think I wanna maybe town read you for it because I feel like if you were mafia you would want to project your correct godread and pocket me rather than tilt me and encourage me to omgus. So yeah I'm gonna town read you for this garbage. Happy days for you.

Have you not figured out that I just scumread you every game regardless of what is going on, and just by the luck of the rand we've only ended up t/t for 1 day of 1 game through all of the games we've played together?

Anyways, I am less confident on you, Fingers is super wolfy on how she was approaching Porscha re:Falcon. I think Fingers REALLY wants a falcon elim, and reading Finger's ISO your name pops up in many awkward ways.

Lol no I like to give people credit and make them feel good about themselves not invalidate their wins with hubris. I know it doesn't seem like that sometimes but I am all about the positive self appraisal lol.

You can have that read. I think Fingersplints has been quite pure. I am quite tunneled on MR and Ender being wolfy. I would probably need Fingersplints to accidentally slip their role card in the thread for me to be moved in that direction right now. Not ruling it out, but like ... I guess you could try to articulate your argument a bit more cuz I'm not going to go back and read all of it and try to confirmation bias myself into agreeing with you. I don't think anyone does lol. So if you actually want to persuade me or anyone probs do better I guess.

My legacy if I die would be to not chop Falcon anymore because you can't really afford to and I think he's town. It would be to kill Ender and MR because if neither are mafia I'll eat white dog shit.

My current appraisal is that I do not think Falcon is mafia but I am not going to cry about his chop because the info we'd glean and what I believe his townflip would do to the gamestate is positive things. If we are going to mischop anyone let it be him. And if I am the dumbass and he flips mafia, all good. I'll take the L there and try to dig my way out of the bullshit tomorrow. I won't be voting there or encouraging votes but I also won't be screaming bloody murder if he gets run up and goes over.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:34 am [VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

See now I have an issue cuz like you've been right about me being mafia so many times and here you're sussing me when I'm town so like... what do I do with that? I think I wanna maybe town read you for it because I feel like if you were mafia you would want to project your correct godread and pocket me rather than tilt me and encourage me to omgus. So yeah I'm gonna town read you for this garbage. Happy days for you.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:28 am @MacDougall You think the Falcon push was for bad reasons, a push I started.

Here are the 4 potential Falcon partners in the game:
Seanzie
LC
Mac
Enderwiggin

Logic puzzle: Why should my world view be anything but reinforced by current threat state & wagons?

Firstly I think you know better than to think that I am ever with Falcon with the choices that I've made in this game. I do not have the clout in this game to hard shield Falcon after no posting d1. If I am mafia me shielding Falcon is TMI that he is town. If he is mafia, and I am mafia I bury him without remorse because I have a historically strong Falcon read and it needs representation. I cannot survive and win this game shielding a Falcon who dies today. Also if I am mafia I never zero post d1 because I have someone in discord pinging me out (although that's angleshooting a bit I guess).

I question the relevance of me having to really answer whether your world view should be reinforced by the current thread state & wagons. I am prone to just saying it probably is but also pointing out that if mafia was that easy town would win every game you didn't get night killed or msichopped in, which doesn't happen. In fact I'll just leave it there.

I have Falcon as a must solve for the purpose of gamestate. I have MR and Ender as the scummiest players in the thread. That is my state of the game. I don't fully understand what your issue with my reads are tbh.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:16 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:10 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:39 am I believe town MR would be scumreading NAA right now.

I don't like this post.

Why not?

You tell me; why might wolf!Mac want MR to feel pressured to read NAA in a certain way?

That was not my intention. My intention in fact was to vocalise a scumread on MR for not reading NAA the way I expect him to. But nice Seanzieism.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:22 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:21 am This is one of those games where I feel like I have a good view of the game and my reads are likely well above rand. I often find myself outside of towncore and distrusted when this is the case.

Obviously not impossible I'm just wrong though but if I were flipped right now I'd be inclined to encourage viewing my legacy as confident which isn't always the case.

What would your legacy be? MR+Wiggins+?? (I guess you don't get 3 if you die, but given you're alive, who's your 3rd would-kill)

Falcon

This is one of those games where I feel like I have a good view of the game and my reads are likely well above rand. I often find myself outside of towncore and distrusted when this is the case.

Obviously not impossible I'm just wrong though but if I were flipped right now I'd be inclined to encourage viewing my legacy as confident which isn't always the case.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:07 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:34 am I read Falcon's ISO and I don't find it nearly wolfy enough to justify the volume of scumreads he's received. I find his ISO towny for him. I doubt he flips mafia here and won't support it.

I think it's absolutely wolfy enough but this gamestate doesn't feel like wolf top wagon.

Okay how often have you been right about Falcon wolf? How often have you scumread town Falcon? @falcon45ca you also comment here.

Also can you actually articulate how Falcon is actually being wolfy that isn't just Falcon's default way of being? Because my biggest problem with this read outside of the fact that too many people have it too easily, is that Falcon just looks like same old Falcon.

I have often townread falcon when others have wolfread him.

That being said there has been a few cases I've been wrong on town!falcon.

But also, town falcon tends to be more fluid with earlygame accusations and pushes and he will probe instead of sitting on one person. I am also not the only person to point this out, when I first mentioned it earlier in this thread someone agreed with my thoughts on it. I forget who and it's past midnight and I'm too tired to check so myeh.

I don't believe I'm a particularly bad reader of Falcon. I like to think I've done pretty well reading him in the past.

I don't see how his early game accusations were not fluid, whatever you mean by that, but suffice to say Falcon was immediately pushed for bad reasons by someone I find scummy so it's very easy for me to excuse him for being a bit more firm in his pushing. He was given a glaring target that nobody but me seems to agree with him on.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:12 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:10 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:39 am I believe town MR would be scumreading NAA right now.

I don't like this post.

I don't think I'm allowed to have reads, so I'll refrain from comment.

There's no need to antagonise further. You already made your point earlier.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:10 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:39 am I believe town MR would be scumreading NAA right now.

I don't like this post.

Why not?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:17 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:04 am @MacDougall I don't even particularly scum read you, I'm just willing to yeet you if EnderWiggin is town, because I know from research that MR has town told. I've never used one of my secret reads unless I was 95+% confidence that they're correct... So trust me when I say that one of you or Falcon is always mafia, it makes me quite nervous because it puts a lot of pressure on my list read being precise. I would be very upset if that read turned out to be wrong, I just don't think it will turn out to be wrong.

@Master Radishes my reads on you prior to discovering your tell are irrelevant.

I'm also willing to yeet you if Falcon is town, so RIP... I guess maybe that is a scum read, but it's more of an associative read because your alignment in this situation (with 1 miss left) relates to both Falcon and Enderwiggin from my PoV.

And it would be entirely fair for you to have the same, yet opposite perspective if you believed in my reads, which of course you don't.

Well yes I don't alwaya kill people for being wrong because I trust my ability to see the logic in their content and read more into it than outcomes.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:34 am I read Falcon's ISO and I don't find it nearly wolfy enough to justify the volume of scumreads he's received. I find his ISO towny for him. I doubt he flips mafia here and won't support it.

I think it's absolutely wolfy enough but this gamestate doesn't feel like wolf top wagon.

Okay how often have you been right about Falcon wolf? How often have you scumread town Falcon? @falcon45ca you also comment here.

Also can you actually articulate how Falcon is actually being wolfy that isn't just Falcon's default way of being? Because my biggest problem with this read outside of the fact that too many people have it too easily, is that Falcon just looks like same old Falcon.

I read Falcon's ISO and I don't find it nearly wolfy enough to justify the volume of scumreads he's received. I find his ISO towny for him. I doubt he flips mafia here and won't support it.

@falcon45ca im obviously the only person here that has the potential to prevent your chop so you should probably talk to me about your reads etc. etc.

Contingent on your Falcon read? How so? What is your Falcon read?

The Nanook kill pretty heavily points away from me and directly at someone in Ender/Seanzie/Falcon though so my preferred choice for the gallows today is still far and away Ender.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:08 am I don't really know what to do about MR with NAA insisting he has perfect the MR read and claims he's town and you strong reading MR as maf

Well that is the problem I have too. NAA is in a position where I think he is town and with the way he chooses to play as town, NAA having incorrect reads (which to me are confirmed at least as far as knowing he is wrong about me) can be very game losing. So prior to lylo it is important that NAA's solve is actually resolved. Which is why I want to flip Falcon to figure out if we are in the world where NAA's reads are all bad, or just bad on me.

I am mostly okay with this because I am not really townreading Falcon's d2 play very much and I have an okay Falcon read myself generally and have found myself hard shielding Falcon from bad pushes in many many games. So I wouldn't exactly be surprised if he flipped mafia.

If he does, then NAA should self resolve from there.

Though I do have some pause in considering who could potentially be Falcon's teammate. I imagine to those not named MacDougall I would be that person but given I am in fact town, I know that isn't the case and I am left kind of shrugging. Like there's no standout. There are a cpl names that can fit but not like hand in glove.

Speaking on them specifically. Both were calling me out, one overtly and one subvertly.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:42 pm Mac caught me so now I'm f-f-f-frozen

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:44 pm I too have read back and solved the game, but I'm gonna hold my opinions until game's end to make it fair.

To me this shows that had some sort of disconnected understanding of how I was viewing the gamestate that he really did not enjoy even despite the fact that at this juncture I had three other players as more likely mafia than him. I do not understand why or where this level of antagonism was warranted and given that I am considering MR as being in a low effort wolf mindset due to the general gamestate being rather apathetic and not requiring the wolves to produce a real major powerwolf effort, this confirms me further into that mindset.

Tl;dr the play just really is not good enough or pro town in any way and MR is fully capable of better than this, even when he's not trying.

Read MR's iso and show me where the townie and good reads are?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:01 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:58 am I struggle to understand how you can call MR one of the nullest slots in the game in a game that contains Seanzie, Fingersplints et al. If MR is null then everyone is null. MR has produced as much readable content as anyone in the game.

I think I’ve produced a decent amount of content to be accurately read by most.

Sure and I think the evidence indicates that MR has produced more.

Not to nitpick, but I don’t believe post count is an accurate representation of content. Some people post a lot of fluff posts. (I’m not calling out MR for this especially. This is just my general feeling on the topic. I don’t have a problem with anyones posting amount at this point. Again it’s a small game.)

I think both you and MR have produced an adequate enough amount of content for neither of you to be able to be labelled the nullest slot in the game, which is a title that can only be owned by Seanzie in this game and maybe NAA because he's virtually unreadable by anyone who doesn't possess the Darkhold.