The Syndicate

Really poor.

I'll get killed tonight. Gl town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:56 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:55 pm I am voting CRichard for the vig benefit. I am prob vigging one of the wagons.

Creature please no. I spent all day pushing CR. I was wrong. I know you were voting me before and I’m saying this knowing it may cause you to vote me again.

CR/Mac is town. Do something helpful with your vote.

He is voting me because Doom said he gets a vig shot if he does.

It's 9am my time btw and I woke up 50 mins ago. I agree that things should have been hashed out sooner but it seemed like nobody cared to until I woke up. So this is what you get.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm How does it make any sense to mislynch a town when we could lynch a scumleaning independent??

How is Lucy scumleaning? She's solved well and her reads align with mine more than anyone's.

Just because you agree with her reads does NOT mean they are accurate. And she will flip on the town as soon as it's in her best interest to.

Kate.

If you continue to argue with bold faced logic I'll have no choice but to vig you.

Lucy having similar perspectives to me doesn't make their reads accurate but it means they are solving earnestly.

If we have a 3p solving earnestly. Who is as accurate as Lucy alongside me. Eliminating them benefits the mafia more than the town.

Treating them as town and letting them stomp wolves also encourages the mafia to shoot them.

I have already said all this.

Do you really think I'm not solving earnestly? I just have different views. Killing me is just one more civ down. We are all playing this game wrong. We need yo come together and make a consensus earlier, not this rushed crap. And we all need to lessen the vitriol.

Where did I say that I thought you weren't solving earnestly?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:54 pm Mac, is there a chance Chihiro is mafia without me in your opinion?

Only if Lucy is mafia who claimed 3p.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm How does it make any sense to mislynch a town when we could lynch a scumleaning independent??

How is Lucy scumleaning? She's solved well and her reads align with mine more than anyone's.

Just because you agree with her reads does NOT mean they are accurate. And she will flip on the town as soon as it's in her best interest to.

Kate.

If you continue to argue with bold faced logic I'll have no choice but to vig you.

Lucy having similar perspectives to me doesn't make their reads accurate but it means they are solving earnestly.

If we have a 3p solving earnestly. Who is as accurate as Lucy alongside me. Eliminating them benefits the mafia more than the town.

Treating them as town and letting them stomp wolves also encourages the mafia to shoot them.

I have already said all this.

Kate speaking with bold faced logic, if I understand that right, is towny for her. I'm thinking of goc where she was like "guys dennis is very civ" all of D1, and then I flipped town and she was like "told ya so". I would not vig shoot kate

You entirely misread me and I completely am baffled how you wrote this post without checking.

She is arguing with MY bold faced logic.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:53 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:52 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:50 pm Logically speaking kate u should be on jack so i dont understand why ur voting lucy?

Ill make this clear i will vote jack over lucy, because i do agree with mac the jack train is weird af.

I DO NOT THINK JACK IS WOLF. IS THAT NOT CLEAR?

but ur not pushing any other option besides a 3rd party, WHY?

Finally we are asking the real questions.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm How does it make any sense to mislynch a town when we could lynch a scumleaning independent??

How is Lucy scumleaning? She's solved well and her reads align with mine more than anyone's.

Just because you agree with her reads does NOT mean they are accurate. And she will flip on the town as soon as it's in her best interest to.

Kate.

If you continue to argue with bold faced logic I'll have no choice but to vig you.

Lucy having similar perspectives to me doesn't make their reads accurate but it means they are solving earnestly.

If we have a 3p solving earnestly. Who is as accurate as Lucy alongside me. Eliminating them benefits the mafia more than the town.

Treating them as town and letting them stomp wolves also encourages the mafia to shoot them.

I have already said all this.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:47 pm And everyone defending you also seems to have no actual desire to kill any mafia from what I can see.

Sorry if you're town but you'd see it the same way I am from my vantage point. It doesn't make any sense to me.

does this not raise any red flags for you???

I am not the one trying to eliminate Lucy.

I think eliminating Lucy is dumb.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:43 pm Both Kate and Jack have Chad in POE.

I just voted him to 3 and made him viable.

Jack moved away and Kate pretended not to notice.

I noticed. What do you want me to do? I'm not certain on him and I am on lucy.

Based on what I've read he's your top scum.

Knowing you, to favour eliminating a 3p, one playing the way Lucy is, over your top scum read. Is out of character and I don't like it.

tl;dr Yes I would have preferred you vote your top scumread.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:45 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:37 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Why? You’re gonna force me to preserve onto Lucy. Stop playing around my slot and help yeet a wolf.

Okay wolf.

I voted WITH you on Chihiro. Who is one of your three POE and then you flipped onto Dunya who was someone you townread and defended earlier today.

Get in the bin.

wait, i over looked this. Did they change votes/reads after u voted me?

Practically at the same time. Mostly because you keep defending me.

He is also defending you for wtf reasons. Arguing against the idea of using wagonomics to justify pushing you while using it to defend you.

And everyone defending you also seems to have no actual desire to kill any mafia from what I can see.

Sorry if you're town but you'd see it the same way I am from my vantage point. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:44 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:43 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:37 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Why? You’re gonna force me to preserve onto Lucy. Stop playing around my slot and help yeet a wolf.

Okay wolf.

I voted WITH you on Chihiro. Who is one of your three POE and then you flipped onto Dunya who was someone you townread and defended earlier today.

Get in the bin.

wait, i over looked this. Did they change votes/reads after u voted me?

Nearly immediately moved from you to Dunya.

That isn't town motivated at all, but idk what that means because ik im town.

Your wagon was made a viable counterwagon to him and Lucy and he killed it.

You're partners.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:37 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Why? You’re gonna force me to preserve onto Lucy. Stop playing around my slot and help yeet a wolf.

Okay wolf.

I voted WITH you on Chihiro. Who is one of your three POE and then you flipped onto Dunya who was someone you townread and defended earlier today.

Get in the bin.

wait, i over looked this. Did they change votes/reads after u voted me?

Nearly immediately moved from you to Dunya.

Both Kate and Jack have Chad in POE.

I just voted him to 3 and made him viable.

Jack moved away and Kate pretended not to notice.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm How does it make any sense to mislynch a town when we could lynch a scumleaning independent??

How is Lucy scumleaning? She's solved well and her reads align with mine more than anyone's.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm Mac is voting Dunya.
Jack reads Dunya town and defends her.
Mac pushes Chihiro and Jack.
Chihiro hard defends Jack.
Jack drops a scumread on Chihiro.
They vaguely interact over this compelling engagement but both seem more intent to persuade me than actually resolve each other.
Jack votes Chihiro.
Mac moves from Dunya to Chihiro.
Oh um actually Jack scumreads Dunya.

I'm not moving my vote off Jack today.

You’re so fucking frustrating sometimes.

Yes wolves often feel that way about me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:37 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Why? You’re gonna force me to preserve onto Lucy. Stop playing around my slot and help yeet a wolf.

Okay wolf.

I voted WITH you on Chihiro. Who is one of your three POE and then you flipped onto Dunya who was someone you townread and defended earlier today.

Get in the bin.

Mac is voting Dunya.
Jack reads Dunya town and defends her.
Mac pushes Chihiro and Jack.
Chihiro hard defends Jack.
Jack drops a scumread on Chihiro.
They vaguely interact over this compelling engagement but both seem more intent to persuade me than actually resolve each other.
Jack votes Chihiro.
Mac moves from Dunya to Chihiro.
Oh um actually Jack scumreads Dunya.

I'm not moving my vote off Jack today.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:11 pm Jack, you seem to be in quite the pickle.

Here allow me to provide you a Lucy vote to pull that wagon closer. How will you deal with this conundrum I wonder?

@Chihiro rationalise this action as a wolf action given your current perspectives.

what exactly is town about voting lucy to create tied trains between a 3rd party and d1 counter wagon?

You've been pushing Lucy as wolfsiding no?

And hard defending Jack?

Wilgy literally is voting to help Jack?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:35 pm I voted Dunya cause idk cold feet on why is Chihiro defending me. I get how it could look bad but whatever

Yeah you're a wolf.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:11 pm Jack, you seem to be in quite the pickle.

Here allow me to provide you a Lucy vote to pull that wagon closer. How will you deal with this conundrum I wonder?

@Chihiro rationalise this action as a wolf action given your current perspectives.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:34 pm Like MAC jack is being voted by 3rd party and rondo, the only town person on that train is freaking creature

[VOTE: Chihiro] aubergine

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:31 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:25 pm Also have no idea why Wigly doesn't have more votes when they havent done anything that makes me or should make anyone believe that slot ever flips town.

People just tossing Wilgy's name out like this makes me want to take him off the table entirely. Prosecute his actual content and engage with him if you think he's mafia. Don't just tout him as a candidate with a vague suspicion.

You're arguing with me right now that my push is bad and my town solving is illogical and the best you can produce is this?

U ever think its becausea wigly hasnt done anything to be worthy of town, compared to jack who has been fighting with this thread to clear himself just to be told he has to die cause hes counterwagon.

Wilgy has done a fair amount of solving. I don't think you've actually read his content tbh.

Jack fighting with the thread to clear himself = town is not a good read. Wolves don't like being eliminated Chad. Maybe a site thing.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:06 pm Also the fact you're voting my slot without reading my content and are just trying to get me out of the game on the power of my predecessors content is scummy as fuck.

I'm really reading as t/t now guys. Mac, I really don't think jack is wolf. What do you think about wilgy?

HK
Jack
Chad
Kate

4 names now who've just tossed up Wilgy as an afterthought.

Seems likely he's not mafia to me.

Also sig randomly asked me about him ages ago too but townread him which I found odd.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:25 pm Also have no idea why Wigly doesn't have more votes when they havent done anything that makes me or should make anyone believe that slot ever flips town.

People just tossing Wilgy's name out like this makes me want to take him off the table entirely. Prosecute his actual content and engage with him if you think he's mafia. Don't just tout him as a candidate with a vague suspicion.

You're arguing with me right now that my push is bad and my town solving is illogical and the best you can produce is this?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:21 pm I no longer want to yeet Mac. Partly because of Mac posts. Partly because Lucy 3P not wolf. Partly because CR just looks along.

I wanna yeet in Chihiro, Wilgy. Maaaaaybe Dunya. Lucy if I can’t find other consensus but I don’t think it’ll come to that. Not really certain on any of these. Just outside of my townreads.

Explain why you want to yeet in those first three? And why Dunya is salad dressing.

And also why Dunya is now present at all when you were hard defending her posts as townie earlier?

Because these players are town: Jack, Sig, Dennis, Kate, Falcon, HK, Neon, Creature, Mac.

And Lucy is 3P.

Thats a lot of confident townreads. Seems out of character for you.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:22 pm Stagnated wagon defenses don't fly when said wagon stagnation is actually a wagon that won't grow.

oh oh

but counter wagon is clearly an optimal reason to vote someone out

must be a site thing i guess

You aren't making the quality of argument you think you are friendo.

Mafia 101 - When a town goes over with lots of votes on them in a two wagon split you vote out the other one to resolve it and make wagonomics fully readable.

This is fully independent in thought from the idea of wagon stagnation meaning wagon is town, which only applies if it is the only wagon that stands out and no other wagon forms and it has lots of votes on it. In this case Jack's wagon has at best 2 non 3p votes on it. Which based on common wolf voting logic equals AT best 1 mafia voting on it because wolves don't glob voted together in the context.

If Jack is town there is a wolf in his two voters yes.

All the more reason to resolve that.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:21 pm I no longer want to yeet Mac. Partly because of Mac posts. Partly because Lucy 3P not wolf. Partly because CR just looks along.

I wanna yeet in Chihiro, Wilgy. Maaaaaybe Dunya. Lucy if I can’t find other consensus but I don’t think it’ll come to that. Not really certain on any of these. Just outside of my townreads.

Explain why you want to yeet in those first three? And why Dunya is salad dressing.

And also why Dunya is now present at all when you were hard defending her posts as townie earlier?

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:39 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:26 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:06 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:04 pm BTW I'm the vigilante who tried to kill Jack last night.

signal boosting cr obvious town

Why does 3P care about this so much?

Ppl should iso Lucy’s D2. She’s insanely invested in the idea that CR is town as a claimed role that shouldn’t really give a damn.

Also coming in with the “resolve the cw” strategy and vague “Jack’s posts yesterday were bad” x alot

Idk if it’s correct but it’s super easy to read Lucy as a wolf either with CR or perhaps more likely, one that is trying to sheep his bad momentum and look good if we misyeet CR.

Resolving the cw is good.

Your posts are bad.

You can hand wave it away if you like but it's true.

Posts being bad have no relation to someones alignment. I am town and people think my posts are bad

Jack train has stagnated as 4-5 people 2 of those are from 1 person, who honestly doesn't give a damn what jack flips aslong as jack is the flip. Jack has already been setup to be a mis elimination because of lucy, who has yet to actually give any real reason as to why jack will flip scum.

When I say bad I mean wolfy.

Stagnated wagon defenses don't fly when said wagon stagnation is actually a wagon that won't grow.

The mafia literally are allergic to his wagon.

If Jack was set up as a miselim, he'd have votes.

You're his partner.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:16 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:35 pm My gosh this game is actually kind of easy to read. Let's stop talking about Lucy.

Rondo is obviously not town. Creature is naked town. Sig and HK are town. Neon is town. More to come.

Like except Rondo being a maybe for me (Roxy, right?) I agree with all of this.

I retracted the Rondo read.

Except our own slots, our reads are like identical.

My scumreads are not. My POE is Chad, Doom, Dunya and you.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:18 pm Today feels more like a bad day 1.

The vc is spread far too much.

Jack needs to be resolved.

The 3p having 4 votes here is like fine but it feels like a good outcome for mafia because Lucy's reads have been good.

Most other slots haven't even really been pushed. Lots of coasting going on. No likey.

I literally can’t be resolved today. You know how this works.

I've seen this dumb game before and you flip mafia almost every time you are wagoned d1 and survive. It literally happened in one of the most recent gamed we played together. Just die.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:07 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:37 pm CRichard
1
5%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

dunya
4
18%
Voters: sig, Dennis, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Jackofhearts2005
4
18%
Voters: Scrappy Doo, lucy, Creature, RondoDimBuckle

JDizz10
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca

lucy
4
18%
Voters: Neon, Kate, DrWilgy, JDizz10

Neon
1
5%
Voters: Chihiro

So... Let's actually try to get into this game somewhat. That would likely be fore the best.

Someone describe for me the lead arguments for Dunya and Jack please? Assuming either flips town, are these wagons pure?

I found Dunya's iso contained too much outcome versus actual engagement and solve. She arrived at a lot of conclusions that I felt were insincere and her solving process was missing.

Jack is the d1 counterwagon to a town. His d1 voters were town. His tone is very scummy.

you probs have more dunya experience than I do would she vanish like this as wolf or as town? I don't feel like the wolf team was in a bad position headed into today, they'd gotten seanzie voted off the island which isn't a super easy thing to do and don't appear to have attracted much heat in doing so unless Jack is a wolf and even then unless jack is like OMG PR (and we're all PR it's madness) why not just pile drive him into the ground, get some cred, and move on?

Her vanishing is not alignment indicative. She has a busy life and mafia doesn't take priority for her nowadays. Trying to read into her for this type of stuff is silly. Just read her posts.

This would have been useful years earlier brug

So now Dunya still looks off to me but with 1. HK getting off the wagon and 2. This knowledge makes me want to give her more time. Ugh.

I'm very sorry that I literally joined the game in the 2nd half of day 2 and only just woke up Dennis. Truly, can you ever forgive me? Please? I beg you.

Today feels more like a bad day 1.

The vc is spread far too much.

Jack needs to be resolved.

The 3p having 4 votes here is like fine but it feels like a good outcome for mafia because Lucy's reads have been good.

Most other slots haven't even really been pushed. Lots of coasting going on. No likey.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:35 pm My gosh this game is actually kind of easy to read. Let's stop talking about Lucy.

Rondo is obviously not town. Creature is naked town. Sig and HK are town. Neon is town. More to come.

Like except Rondo being a maybe for me (Roxy, right?) I agree with all of this.

I retracted the Rondo read.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:34 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:08 pm Ya know if you ISO CR and do a word search for "Jack", you'll get 20 matches...and almost none of them have anything to do at all with actually reading Jack or engaging with him

This post is ungood.

You mean “inconvenient” lol

Well no it's ungood because he's pushing a town for dumb reasons.

But yes it's also inconvenient.

Not mutually exclusive descriptors.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:08 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:04 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:13 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:53 pm @RondoDimBuckle

Give me 4 scum and why?

No, I dont know you and I dont like you try again

Hello? Wtf does knowing me have to do with my question or this game???

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

I could easily vote this slot. @jack @RondoDimBuckle @Neon @MacDougall @Dennis thoughts?

Likewise.

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:36 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:50 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:48 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Kinda expected better from Seanzie tbh

Also creature lol, its been like 40 mins? What kind of expectation from Seanzie do u have that, in 40 mins you u think the slot isnt playing with towns best interest in mind

This feels like tmi

what is with people misusing the word tmi, first crich now you?

Like plz do explain where the TMI is in this post. Cause thats post was made 40 mins into phase start.

You have tmi because you're criticising Creature for pushing Seanzie and your reasoning makes no sense unless you knew his push was bad.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:37 pm CRichard
1
5%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

dunya
4
18%
Voters: sig, Dennis, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Jackofhearts2005
4
18%
Voters: Scrappy Doo, lucy, Creature, RondoDimBuckle

JDizz10
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca

lucy
4
18%
Voters: Neon, Kate, DrWilgy, JDizz10

Neon
1
5%
Voters: Chihiro

So... Let's actually try to get into this game somewhat. That would likely be fore the best.

Someone describe for me the lead arguments for Dunya and Jack please? Assuming either flips town, are these wagons pure?

I found Dunya's iso contained too much outcome versus actual engagement and solve. She arrived at a lot of conclusions that I felt were insincere and her solving process was missing.

Jack is the d1 counterwagon to a town. His d1 voters were town. His tone is very scummy.

you probs have more dunya experience than I do would she vanish like this as wolf or as town? I don't feel like the wolf team was in a bad position headed into today, they'd gotten seanzie voted off the island which isn't a super easy thing to do and don't appear to have attracted much heat in doing so unless Jack is a wolf and even then unless jack is like OMG PR (and we're all PR it's madness) why not just pile drive him into the ground, get some cred, and move on?

Her vanishing is not alignment indicative. She has a busy life and mafia doesn't take priority for her nowadays. Trying to read into her for this type of stuff is silly. Just read her posts.

Also the fact you're voting my slot without reading my content and are just trying to get me out of the game on the power of my predecessors content is scummy as fuck.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:37 pm CRichard
1
5%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

dunya
4
18%
Voters: sig, Dennis, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Jackofhearts2005
4
18%
Voters: Scrappy Doo, lucy, Creature, RondoDimBuckle

JDizz10
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca

lucy
4
18%
Voters: Neon, Kate, DrWilgy, JDizz10

Neon
1
5%
Voters: Chihiro

So... Let's actually try to get into this game somewhat. That would likely be fore the best.

Someone describe for me the lead arguments for Dunya and Jack please? Assuming either flips town, are these wagons pure?

I found Dunya's iso contained too much outcome versus actual engagement and solve. She arrived at a lot of conclusions that I felt were insincere and her solving process was missing.

Jack is the d1 counterwagon to a town. His d1 voters were town. His tone is very scummy.

Bullshit. My tone is shiny town.

No it's not you have the meandering presence of someone trying and failing to produce town solving mindset. Instead it's a transparent wolf solving who is the miselim mindset. You're obviously powerwolfing also because you keep pushing town and shielding mafia imo. You completely lack townie notes as well. Your posts one after the other can be best described as overwrought, manipulative weasel words.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:39 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:26 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:06 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:04 pm BTW I'm the vigilante who tried to kill Jack last night.

signal boosting cr obvious town

Why does 3P care about this so much?

Ppl should iso Lucy’s D2. She’s insanely invested in the idea that CR is town as a claimed role that shouldn’t really give a damn.

Also coming in with the “resolve the cw” strategy and vague “Jack’s posts yesterday were bad” x alot

Idk if it’s correct but it’s super easy to read Lucy as a wolf either with CR or perhaps more likely, one that is trying to sheep his bad momentum and look good if we misyeet CR.

Resolving the cw is good.

Your posts are bad.

You can hand wave it away if you like but it's true.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:37 pm CRichard
1
5%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

dunya
4
18%
Voters: sig, Dennis, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Jackofhearts2005
4
18%
Voters: Scrappy Doo, lucy, Creature, RondoDimBuckle

JDizz10
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca

lucy
4
18%
Voters: Neon, Kate, DrWilgy, JDizz10

Neon
1
5%
Voters: Chihiro

So... Let's actually try to get into this game somewhat. That would likely be fore the best.

Someone describe for me the lead arguments for Dunya and Jack please? Assuming either flips town, are these wagons pure?

I found Dunya's iso contained too much outcome versus actual engagement and solve. She arrived at a lot of conclusions that I felt were insincere and her solving process was missing.

Jack is the d1 counterwagon to a town. His d1 voters were town. His tone is very scummy.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:21 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:47 pm Neon always dies 1st if Jack flips mafia.
Actually, flip them next also if Jack flips town. That's TMI in the world Jack is town.

I sometimes think stuff like this as a townie but I don't think it with righteous indignation.

I'm really struggling with seeing CR's towngame being worlds apart from mine...or just seeing a wolf.

Stop reading his posts and read mine.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:57 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:37 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:23 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:14 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:10 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:08 pm Ya know if you ISO CR and do a word search for "Jack", you'll get 20 matches...and almost none of them have anything to do at all with actually reading Jack or engaging with him

Ahem I voted Jack before EOD1 and am voting them now. That should make it pretty obvious Jack is in my PoE.

Yes, but why? Your vote for him now seems to be based off "Let's get the CW to green flip"...and I'm just wondering if there's actually something behind your SR of Jack beyond that.





I thought he was fairly towny last RD

Is that right? Are you claiming info on Jack that clears them?

And now he's fishing for roles




[VOTE: CR] aubergine

I haven’t gotten to Mac yet but CR’s opening is pretty horrendous.

Sad that wolves don’t warn their partners about me more often.

Mac has come in w/ some solve energy, which is what I'd expect from Maf Mac trying to work himself out of the POE.

Hahaha what?

And you'd expect town Mac to do what exactly?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:32 am

JDizz10 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:06 am My initial reads from day 1 are Chihiro lucy and pyxxy as lean mafia. CRichard Roxy and sig as lean town. And null for the others

lolMac

lolmac? huh

I have no real thoughts about Wilgy.

He lied about his ability fwiw.