The Syndicate

sig wrote:It was a fun game anyone who hasn't should sign up for Star Wars so I can wreak revenge on y'all.

Also Epi thanks for hosting even if my team caused my death and town after my death I was cheering for you.

Was a little bit of a rout hey.

Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Got this fancy ass sig right here.
I made it grainy because of sand. Get it?

Fucking genius right here.

Got this fancy ass sig right here.

Matt F wrote:Even though the sig and Turnip suspicions seemed to be jokes, I'm still mind boggled that Mac's first three suspicions were all mafia.

Wow dude. Haha.

Linki - Whoa. That's a lot of poison.

It's fair to say that my civ strength is in gut reading scum players based on slight offness about posts and behavior. I'm not great when it comes to designing huge cases etc. I genuinely did feel the way I posted, though presented in a jokey way.

Congrats guys. Fun game. Never doubted you Golden.

Matt F wrote:I trust bea that she believes SVS to be civvie, but I'd still like SVS to answer FZ in regards to FZ's meta. Cuz that is kinda strange.

Also, ISO'd a few players. Lots of thoughts, but won't bore thread with most of them haha because ya all know how I can be.

Mac's first post in the game

MacDougall wrote:Sig picked the gun when he had choices ergo he's a killer and easy day 1 lynch.
Okay, coincidence that Mac's very first post he identifies sig as a killer? I believe in Talking Heads, Jimmy Jay found multiple games in which Mac identified his own teammates as mafia and quite early in the game, when I had asked 3J about it. If you don't want to take my word for it, I will (dreadfully) go search 3J's ISO for those links.

But okay, let's just say Mac was being funny. Alright, let's move on.

The second time Mac susses someone in the game, his ninth post...

MacDougall wrote:I actually got pinged by turnip head's NFL post somehow. But that's probably because I am a genius level scum hunter.
The third time Mac susses someone in the game, his seventeenth post...

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I do not believe policy lynches can occur after day 1 so if this fails to occur I won't push for a policy lynch on him again.

And no, not really. This discussion should get people motivated to talk. It should influence a lot of play. It will help incentivise conversation on day 1 that could lead to genuine cases. Better that than we start by just asking about the weather. Let the games begin.
Policy-lynching a player Day 1 every game is unproductive, especially if you declare such a plan.

I will no be voting for Matt F today.
So you will not be voting for Matt F even if significant evidence comes out in the thread that should encourage his lynch for not policy lynch reasons? Interesting.

And who said anything about doing it every game?

on Metalmarsh
So, the first three players he identifies as mafia or is suspicious of (whether it seems like he was joking or not), all turn out to be mafia.

Genius level scum hunter or scum himself?

My only drawback here is that Elohcin insists that those who were forced to vote sig are good.

Fyi I'm NOT trying to lynch Mac right away, but I felt it was worth sharing. What do you think?

Told you, just genius.

Golden wrote:SVS is an old friend, Mac, one I have the deepest respect for.

PS - I feel very sad for Paris right now. It's a sad day I feel like there has been nothing this co-ordinated since 9/11.

@Mac - you don't need to quote me back to me. I'm giving you the other post for YOUR use, if you insist on lynching me tomorrow. OK? Call it a legacy post.

Holy shit dude I didn't know about this Paris situation at all...

Golden wrote:I voted Luke.

Yesterday, I narrowed the last harkonnen down to him or floyd. I admit if I'd had the chance to pick either, I probably still would have gone floyd. But I felt like it was a 50/50 shot.

Today, with floyd gone and not bad, I feel this is a 100% shot.

Luke is the last harkonnen. If I'm wrong, lynch me tomorrow.

S~V~S wrote:No, I admire how sure he is, truly. I can't do that.

Lol if you say so. I think you hate it.

S~V~S wrote:Golden is always sure. I admire his confidence.

Haha no you don't you hate it.

Golden wrote:Luke best flip civ? lol

Well ... you know what I mean. I got heated lol.

Matt what sort of question is that? I've plainly stated already that I am voting to lynch Luke under insistence of Golden and that I will be slaughtering his face should Luke flip civ because he said that he was 100% certain that Luke was the last Hark. 100% certain. You don't say that and be wrong and then live to tell of it. So Luke best flip civ or I am going to see to it that Goldilocks takes a dirt nap.

Matt F wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Um the Dune film is on the TV here in a few minutes. How weird.
If Luke isn't the last Harkonnen, do you oppose the town lynching you next?

Um, yes fool. Why the hell would I want the town to lynch me?

Um the Dune film is on the TV here in a few minutes. How weird.

I'm joshing. You've not ruined it. You've made it warm and fuzzy.

Golden you've ruined this game with your huge epic gambits of 100% certainty.

Okay so what's the deal with the last player we lynched appearing in the poll again? That's got to be a thing. Golden you seem to know everything explain that.

The timing of Luke just now showing up in a panic to post is a bit of a giveaway tbh.

Matt F wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Okay Golden. You have one lynch. If Luke isn't scum I wil end you.
Are you kidding?

I asked you your top three suspects, you said FZ, Golden, and Blooper. Now you're voting Luke right away on Golden's say so?

Yesterday he promised us Floyd as Harkonnen and me as Floyd's recruit. Day 1 he promised Zebra or he'd be gobsmacked, if I recall.

Stop voting for Luke please. Yes he very well may be mafia, but we have 48 hours. C'mon now.

That message says one of two things. Golden is right or Golden is scum. We shall test.

Okay Golden. You have one lynch. If Luke isn't scum I wil end you.

Golden wrote:I think it means irulan trusts me, and thinks you should listen to me.

I also think a lot of you still think Irulan could be bad, but I'm one of the few people telling you all that they are not.

I'm not talking about FZ, either.

I ... don't agree.

The only one making lists is you.

Epignosis wrote:“Do not seek to find the evil in your lists, for it is not the true evil.
Turn away from the water, and look into the golden light: there, you shall find what your heart seeks.”
-Princess Irulan, Sayings from the Empire

Look into the golden light hey.

What do you think this whole quote means gang?

Elohcin wrote:
Golden wrote:SVS, I'm not sure why you are so determined. You yourself have said 'results can be falsified', so why do you feel so strongly?

@eloh - knowing floyd was not atriedes... and with seven atriedes alive at the start.... and with only zebra 1.0, BR, Draconus dead.

That means at least 4 Atriedes still had to be alive. At least four.
I am guessing five

If you are saying what I think you are saying Floyd was one of the five that voted sig and he is confirmed not to be Atriedes.

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Aside from you right?
Aside from me what?

Having more motive to kill Zebra.

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:The fact that you are still alive is also a little bit confounding. Just a tad.
Why? It's only been since zebra died that I've gone on the offensive. It's why I asked for protection tonight, if it exists. Before that, we had no kill on night three so do you think I was so obviously and clearly the best target on nights one or two?

That's not true. You have been a significant contributer since the start. You and Zebra interracting prior to her lynch was a lot of the volume of the thread. No you were not obviously and clearly the best target but compared to who was removed I would have picked you over them. Albeit I did say just a tad. The same argument can be made for a number of players. We shall see who survives this night then.

Golden wrote:No kill on night three is also why I believe protector DOES exist.

Or the scum targeted a recruitable that night.

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate all of your effort truly. And either way you would be playing a great game. I just feel the need to keep you under scrutiny lest you run away with all this supatowning you are doing to win the game as scum either recruited or original.

Aside from you right?

The fact that you are still alive is also a little bit confounding. Just a tad.

Elo on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being low, how certain are you in your forced voters are civs theory?

Elohcin wrote:Mac, why Golden?

Read posts Elo.

Read posts Matt.

FZ, Golden and Niju

Nah just genius.

Heh pissibility.

I don't think that the self targeting rule eliminates the pissibility of a role being that they are able to take themselves off the poll once per game or something.

I am just thinking that a smuggler would be a wheeler dealer type of character and since they seem not to have kills significant vote and poll influence would make sense. Otherwise the rogue is pretty hamstrung. I was thinking their role allowed them to force votes or to remove people. Something like that.

Golden wrote:I think the smuggler/rogue may be banana. We haven't seen any ill effects from this role (as far as I'm aware) even though I feel we might have expected to.

I am going by the assumption that the person who is influencing votes and polls is the rogue.

Hey goldilocks. How do you know bout my thing that I can do?

I reckon that would be perfectly likely.

Here is my jive.

Golden is this Wellington Goober who got recruited at some point.

I reckon the scumdogs are at least two now.

I reckon eldawg is the rogue.

The ridgy scum is niju.

I reckon the factions are like ... I reckon Fremen and Emp have to eliminate each other and survive to take solo win or something like that.

Do I sound ridic?

Well that's just I dunno what.

bea why is turnip head on the poll?

I would still like to know why Turnip is on the poll.

Matt trust me when I say you mistook that post.

Matt F wrote:
TheFloyd73 wrote:BTW, Matt, do you believe my stating that I was stuck in a "dammit, little time, show do I vote for?" situation.
Considering Mac's bewildering statement about you, I think you're good, or at the very least, not Harkonnen. I won't be voting for you today.

Sorry what?

For me I was sold by FZ's post volume. I find it challenging to align the thread count and sheer effort of posting woth what would have had to have been a seriously busy btsc with sehat has happened. Also TH looks like he tried to discredit her badly on the way out.

Effectively her vote evidence is very poor but aside from that she has been a bigger contributer than most. If we went through Floyd and Luke she would become top priority once again though.

Actually on second thought I think Luke looks worse than Floyd but alas he isn't on the poll so bummer.

I just had a quick look at a few pages. Floyd is also my vote. While the logic looks bizarre the thread evidence is not there for anyone else. All other players are genuine. Even niju and Luke.

Golden wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure why I'm getting a 'tude from you when I'm actually (as far as I can see) the only one putting work in in this thread to try and figure it out?

What an unfair thing to say.

Floyd as civ would be a new thing. He has played the same lurky odd game in all three games.

He could just as easily have waited to say what it was for a perceived town advantage. If he straight up says that there is an item that disrupts the poisoner he paints a target on his chest right?

In actuality that could be why the scum tried so hard to get him lynched just assuming it was a protective counter to their poisoner.

Yes you make a valid point.

Or we lucked on a couple of lynches early game and scum teammates tried to prevent them by ganging up on Floyd but failed in coin flips and it blew up in their face.

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I don't buy it. If the scum had a grand plan around making floyd look civ while sacrificing their own players all the power to them but I doubt it.
You might be right. I mean, it's just me guessing essentially, thinking what the most likely outcome is. I get good vibes from FZ. While TH's vote timings and post all felt completely wrong, FZs feel the opposite, to me.

Also, Floyd vote for MM is the most certain thing I've ever seen him to do in mafia. And the timing of it was right in there with sig and MM voting for him.

If it isn't one out of Floyd, Luke and FZ, I'll be surprised. Everyone else doesn't feel like a fit with harkonnen on one level or another. But for me the only thing that points to FZ is her vote record, not her posting.

Take a look at our little entanglement a page or two ago. Also her concession that she deserves to be lynched is the same thing that most said TH couldn't be civ for posting.

I don't buy it. If the scum had a grand plan around making floyd look civ while sacrificing their own players all the power to them but I doubt it.

Huh.

On another topic what is the championships?

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