The Syndicate

I mean, Tosin Abasi. derp. Fucking Arrested Development mafia.

agleaminranks wrote:Zebra I just realized I misgendered you. My sincerest apologies. I'm better than that.

Don't sweat it, Tobias.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Ask yourself DDL, was sig's not-lynching of Fuzz unnatural? Did it even feel unnatural?

linki @ Matt -
That's the thing though, it felt natural... as someone who is seeing their teammate get lynched and wants to save them.

It didn't feel natural for a civ. He was too worried about Fuzz dieing when he had never given any prior indication of reading him as civ.

No.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:And my point has been made, thank you very much. Maybe a lack of skimming would clear the fog on that issue.
I'm looking at your posts. i'm not seeing a single one where you explain why you voted for LC.
Others have explained it for me. I'm playing a secondhand game.
Translation: you are making a point not to ever be an asset to town, so you can avoid being lynched in a game where surviving isn't even the goal.

Beautiful.

Wrong again. I am an asset to town by following the example of the people who are correct instead of the people who are not.

My survival is valuable to town by being a number in their favor. I can translate to, by the way.

Translation: She's starting to look like a WIFOM-y mislynch more and more, just like sig, so I'm going to take this opportunity to plant my seeds of disingenuous suspicion. Perhaps they will grow over time if enough civilians agree with me.

Ask yourself DDL, was sig's not-lynching of Fuzz unnatural? Did it even feel unnatural?

linki @ Matt -

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:And my point has been made, thank you very much. Maybe a lack of skimming would clear the fog on that issue.
I'm looking at your posts. i'm not seeing a single one where you explain why you voted for LC.

Others have explained it for me. I'm playing a secondhand game.

But it does equal not dismissing opinions before even knowing them.

And my point has been made, thank you very much. Maybe a lack of skimming would clear the fog on that issue.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Don't feel like lynching LC though. It's Sig or Nero.
You are so wrong. You are so, so, so wrong.
Stop spamming one liners and make your point.

I'm an open minded person, but I haven't seen any convincing arguments against LC yet.

(though I skimmed a lot of shit so yeah).

An open-minded person.

Skimmed a lot of shit.

Puh-leeze.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Don't feel like lynching LC though. It's Sig or Nero.

You are so wrong. You are so, so, so wrong.

agleaminranks wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:Zebra I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't address you with the same concerns that I addressed in Scotty's case. Your really minimalist game style is... I don't know if I would say pinging me, but it worries me how little of a read I can get on you.
Excellent, that's the idea.
So you want to be difficult to read? If you were a civilian, how would this help your case?
What case? The answer is in the post you're responding to right here.
You're dodging the question purposely. What would a civilian zebra trying to hide his identity have to gain over a baddie zebra?

Methinks not much, if anything at all. It would be far more beneficial to hide your read as a baddie. And yet, at the same time, it draws more attention.

She would hide her identity so as to be difficult to read, because not being difficult to read has been known to lead to Zebra mislynches. Not only did I not dodge the question, I gave you the most direct answer you could expect.

AWWWWWWWWWW YEAH WHAT'S GOOD, SIG HATERZ

I SEE YOU SLOONEI

CHANGE DAT VOTE

SAVE A CIVILIAN

Get it? Because cops, you know?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:MM, what are your thoughts on the mischievous dastardly Long Con?

linki - AHA! What a coincidence. The answer is that Nerolunar is good. We've seen bad Nerolunar before, this isn't that. This is bad Long Con.
I agree that Long Con is mischievous and dastardly.

Why is he a cop?

Beats me.

Will MM do the right thing?

Or will he leave his vote where it is and cowardly decide the mislynch of an innocent civilian who never hurt a fly?

FIND OUT, ON THE NEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

BATTLEEEEEE OF THE HOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ATTABOY MATT

Epignosis wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:He's a cool guy, huh Epi. I'm nowhere near a libertarian but I would have voted for him if I was of age at the time.
He is. That year I really wanted Ron Paul though. I will never forget that Ron Paul got booed at a Republican debate for quoting the golden rule.

What do you expect? Compassion and empathy are not the strong suits of the Republican party.

Neither major party actually.

MM, what are your thoughts on the mischievous dastardly Long Con?

linki - AHA! What a coincidence. The answer is that Nerolunar is good. We've seen bad Nerolunar before, this isn't that. This is bad Long Con.

sig wrote:If I was mafia there would be more movement to not lynch me right know. Gleam if you think I'm civ then vote to save me.

linki: Zebra if you want to yell at me do it in our mafia team chat pls.

:P

sorrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

agleaminranks wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:Zebra I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't address you with the same concerns that I addressed in Scotty's case. Your really minimalist game style is... I don't know if I would say pinging me, but it worries me how little of a read I can get on you.
Excellent, that's the idea.
So you want to be difficult to read? If you were a civilian, how would this help your case?

What case? The answer is in the post you're responding to right here.

He's a cool guy, huh Epi. I'm nowhere near a libertarian but I would have voted for him if I was of age at the time.

sig wrote:Lets all switch to Nero I mean he has rolled mafia 2 out of 2 games good odds. :P

You're civ, stop making yourself look bad.

y u alwayz do dizz

If people can read me, they can (and will) misread me. If they can misread me, they can mislynch me.

If they can't read me at all, happy days await the town cause.

agleaminranks wrote:Zebra I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't address you with the same concerns that I addressed in Scotty's case. Your really minimalist game style is... I don't know if I would say pinging me, but it worries me how little of a read I can get on you.

Excellent, that's the idea.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting Nerolunar.

Your move Matt.

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.

lol @ sig actually watching that video.

Matt wrote: Why not Marmot?

Because he's civ.

sig wrote:Like for real Golden voters it is a waste of a vote.

Serge wrote:Is it possible to hear what the cases are for sig, Nerolunar and Long Con?

Yes, anything is possible. You just gotta believe in yourself.

Matt wrote:I'm down to switch it up to Marmot if you think you can get the votes together, sig. But I will be leaving for work before the lynch, in about 45 min so make it happen, cap'n.

Why not Long Con? He's the baddest of the badder of the bad.

Near-sighted is an understatement.

sig is lynched for being sig.

Some things never change.

PSYCH!

Long Con is my lynch of choice. sig and Nerolunar are civ.

sig is my lynch of choice. Long Con and Nerolunar are civ.

S~V~S wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Golden wrote: A CFD that actually takes down a baddie is GOING to make baddies reveal themselves. They have to scramble like hell. It is only normal that some, even if they are good players, are going to reveal their hands in the chaos. That's the whole point of it.
That's the thing though...it makes the baddies reveal themselves if the target of the CFD is in fact a baddie. If it's not, the sudden pressure on them out of nowhere might make them appear as if they were a baddie because of how they might react to receiving so many votes out of nowhere. Given the result, I obviously don't have a problem with the lynch and though I'm still not a CFD fan I can't criticize how it played out this time, but I do think that the result it produced owed at least most of it to luck, and that there have got to be some baddies on that wagon.
Why? Especially since it appeared that ika had the most votes? If Fuzz had appeared to have the most votes, then I would definitely agree he had been heaved under the Greyhound. But, from the way it looked, it looked like ika had been lynched and he had been saved. Why would baddies do that?

I don't buy it.

Why what? What are you arguing against?

Golden wrote: @zebra - the target was a baddie. There was no luck involved, the baddie cocked up and was caught. I see no reason that there has 'got to' be baddies on the wagon, but if there are it is only DDL.

I'm sorry, but the opposition to the CFD post factum is ridiculous.

But the way Fuzz "cocked up" could have been identical to the way a civ would have "cocked up". It wasn't, but it could've been. Hence, luck.

Golden wrote: A CFD that actually takes down a baddie is GOING to make baddies reveal themselves. They have to scramble like hell. It is only normal that some, even if they are good players, are going to reveal their hands in the chaos. That's the whole point of it.

That's the thing though...it makes the baddies reveal themselves if the target of the CFD is in fact a baddie. If it's not, the sudden pressure on them out of nowhere might make them appear as if they were a baddie because of how they might react to receiving so many votes out of nowhere. Given the result, I obviously don't have a problem with the lynch and though I'm still not a CFD fan I can't criticize how it played out this time, but I do think that the result it produced owed at least most of it to luck, and that there have got to be some baddies on that wagon.

I'm not Dickens.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
indiglo wrote:Switching to Fuzz for the time being.

I would definitely like to hear from him / her before EoD if possible.

I did recently get mislynched in a CFD in Rocky & Bullwinkle, and it sucked. I prefer people to be able to defend against votes, but I also prefer not to be forced to vote for someone I don't want to vote for in order for my vote to mean something.

Linki up the wazoo here too! Weeeeee!
I don't know indi much at all, but this sort of behavior just seems natural to come from her. Is this correct?

Linki: why your posts so short zeebs?

I get paid by the post, not by the word.

sig's town.

Why does sig being wrong make him bad?

ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
both of them need to die, hes defening fuzzy so i want him to stck to that. im indiffrent overall
You don't seem indifferent.

well im more confident in fuzz then esp so maybe thats it

*shrugs*

im wiating at this point[/quote]
I feel you.

Sloonei wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
RadicalFuzz wrote:Silver where did I say I wouldn't vote for ika?

With that constraint I'm not sure Sloonei. I suppose the players I would like to see last-minute bandwagoned are all easy targets.

Luffy you also asked me for reads. Context is important.
The whole game is on the line from your perspective and you can't name a single other suspect?
If he was a baddie, don't you think he would pretend like he suspected more people in this situation?
Maybe. I've never played with Fuzz before, and this sort of thing could easily have crossed his mind.

I'm not even talking about Fuzz's meta, that just doesn't seem like the smart thing for mafia to do in general when they're about to be lynched.

Perhaps WIFOM, but I doubt it.

ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
sig wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
sig wrote: Linki: I dislike the speed of this wagon I dislike how quicly everyone jumped on it, I dislike both Silver's and Ikas posts. The lack of good reasoning and the fact no one ever voiced anything about fuzz until know.
But does the Fuzz wagon being suspect make ika automatically bad?
It is either an attempt to save Ika or Epi, which I've said.
when i flip town you better lynch fuzzy next
Why Fuzzy and not Epi?
both of them need to die, hes defening fuzzy so i want him to stck to that. im indiffrent overall

You don't seem indifferent.

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