The Syndicate

Vompatti wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:What a soapy page. Sorry everyone, I'll ask for a replacement and the game can be tranquil and all that good stuff.

linki - I'm sorry I express my disagreement via flood. People can criticize both my play style and my character incessantly but if I express disagreement with too many emojis well then that's just going too far. As much as I love you guys, I really don't understand this community's double standards sometimes and it's frustrating and stressful. I'm taking a break.

How we interact in this game has nothing to do with what I think of you outside of this game. Let's be friends, k?

This is what I want everyone else to think as well, but everyone seems to take what I say personally and it drives me up the fucking wall. I've sent more than one person away from this site just for doing what I do, and after so many ruined days and confrontations with other players similar to this one that haven't ended well, I can only assume that I'm the problem. We can be friends in the non-game threads if that sounds good.

I wouldn't mind you sending more people away k

That's nice of you, and you wouldn't believe how much I've missed you, but I mind. It's gotten to a point where it's making me feel like shit.

Ricochet wrote: linki is an ech
sorry to see zebra leave
hold the door now eh

I can't now, I'm out of my element. :P

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:What a soapy page. Sorry everyone, I'll ask for a replacement and the game can be tranquil and all that good stuff.

linki - I'm sorry I express my disagreement via flood. People can criticize both my play style and my character incessantly but if I express disagreement with too many emojis well then that's just going too far. As much as I love you guys, I really don't understand this community's double standards sometimes and it's frustrating and stressful. I'm taking a break.

How we interact in this game has nothing to do with what I think of you outside of this game. Let's be friends, k?

This is what I want everyone else to think as well, but everyone seems to take what I say personally and it drives me up the fucking wall. I've sent more than one person away from this site just for doing what I do, and after so many ruined days and confrontations with other players similar to this one that haven't ended well, I can only assume that I'm the problem. We can be friends in the non-game threads if that sounds good.

What a soapy page. Sorry everyone, I'll ask for a replacement and the game can be tranquil and all that good stuff.

linki - I'm sorry I express my disagreement via flood. People can criticize both my play style and my character incessantly but if I express disagreement with too many emojis well then that's just going too far. As much as I love you guys, I really don't understand this community's double standards sometimes and it's frustrating and stressful. I'm taking a break.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I am seriously fed up with people implying or saying that I'm not paying attention when the same people give me the same treatment, it's getting old.

I don't give a shit. If you're going to spend Day 6 insulting everyone then you get what you get.

Since you called for Glorfindel to pull up some examples, I would love to see a direct quotation of a single instance where I insulted anyone, let alone everyone.

Maybe I'll waste my time on that after I'm finished ISOing sig.

The hypocrisy here is just insane. Waste your time? I never say things like that. You were giving me attitude way back in Talking Heads all because I suspected you for acting different than the way I was used to you from previous RYM games. The way you were acting different? You were kinder and more patient with people. My apologies for playing a game and not letting you run everyone over.

Vompatti wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Shit is always a good option.

What's your option?

I dunno k

Are you going to self-vote?

Most definitely NOT, unless I end up randomizing.

Are you thinking about randomizing? Why don't you vote now?

I don't have my lucky coins at hand and I can't find them with the lights off.

Shucks.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I am seriously fed up with people implying or saying that I'm not paying attention when the same people give me the same treatment, it's getting old.

I don't give a shit. If you're going to spend Day 6 insulting everyone then you get what you get.

Since you called for Glorfindel to pull up some examples, I would love to see a direct quotation of a single instance where I insulted anyone, let alone everyone.

G-Man wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

G-Man wrote:A2thezebra, what I gather from your posts is that you have jack on either Glorfindel or Wilgy and are merely stating your opinions as facts, which is lazy at best.

Gather what you will but that's a load of bullshit and you know it. I have not once claimed that anything I have said in this thread is factually true, and I have no given reason for anyone to believe that I desire to give off that impression. If you have an issue with my play style take it up with the mods please, I'm not adjusting it because you think it's "lazy at best" give me a fucking break.

Aww what? You get defensive when someone is as blunt with you as you are to others. Let me call the waaambulance for you.

At least start your opinions with "I think" or "I feel" instead of making everything seem like a declarative statement.

I'm blunt with others in terms of how I read them. I do not judge their play style or criticize how they approach the game. That's when I get "defensive" and that's when I get pissed off.

Vompatti wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Shit is always a good option.

What's your option?

I dunno k

Are you going to self-vote?

Most definitely NOT, unless I end up randomizing.

Are you thinking about randomizing? Why don't you vote now?

I am seriously fed up with people implying or saying that I'm not paying attention when the same people give me the same treatment, it's getting old.

Meta is the only thing to go on in this game for town to hunt baddies with, and even that is extremely flimsy even at its most useful. The game is naturally designed in favor of mafia because of this, because less is more here and no one should be left unquestioned. That's it.

linki - I know that's not what you said. I read what you said. I said something else to respond to it. Read.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:And you think it looks bad for him that he seems incapable of following through with that?

I don't think it looks good. If you don't think there's a valid inspiration for that assertion, you've never played Mafia before.

If you think there are any, and I mean any, absolutes in this game, then you've never played Mafia before.

Vompatti wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Shit is always a good option.

What's your option?

I dunno k

Are you going to self-vote?

And you think it looks bad for him that he seems incapable of following through with that?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:You...have played with Glorfindel before, right?

No. I don't really care about his meta anyway. I do think he has seemed quite genuine at face value and that's a good thing. He pledged to stop doing this though and if that pledge isn't honored it's a problem. I want suspects, Glorfindel.

Stop doing what? Defending himself?

Yes.

G-Man wrote:A2thezebra, what I gather from your posts is that you have jack on either Glorfindel or Wilgy and are merely stating your opinions as facts, which is lazy at best.

Gather what you will but that's a load of bullshit and you know it. I have not once claimed that anything I have said in this thread is factually true, and I have no given reason for anyone to believe that I desire to give off that impression. If you have an issue with my play style take it up with the mods please, I'm not adjusting it because you think it's "lazy at best" give me a fucking break.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:You...have played with Glorfindel before, right?

No. I don't really care about his meta anyway. I do think he has seemed quite genuine at face value and that's a good thing. He pledged to stop doing this though and if that pledge isn't honored it's a problem. I want suspects, Glorfindel.

Stop doing what? Defending himself?

Vompatti wrote:Shit is always a good option.

What's your option?

First option, sig. Second option, Vompatti. Third option, ObscureAllure.

The options that have been mentioned the most are shit options.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:He's a cylon so if he claims our number two (should be Wigly) dies and if he doesn't claim then Glor dies. Either way we have a mafia.

You're wrong on both counts. Neither Wilgy nor Glorfindel will be a successful lynch regardless of whether or not either or both of them claim.

We will get nothing if we lynch either of them. Nothing. Except the game might be over faster.

You are wrong. Wilgy and Glorf are cylons. What are the odds they are both good? Especially if I'm to believe Wilgy is good, then Glorf is almost certainly not. So yes, Glorf needs to claim or die. He needs to tell me straight up why he isn't claiming if he chooses not to. Glorf is hiding among the nonclaimers and we need to get him out.

This is really very simple and if you still don't get it, then I'm not wasting time explaining it again to you. I'm hoping others will see it and vote accordingly.

SilverWolf - I have been honest, open and entirely transparent with you all about my alignment all game. I have indicated both directly and indirectly where my loyalties lie. If that doesn't satisfy you, then that is your problem, not mine.

You're defending yourself again. Losing points.

You...have played with Glorfindel before, right?

Glorfindel wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:He's a cylon so if he claims our number two (should be Wigly) dies and if he doesn't claim then Glor dies. Either way we have a mafia.

You're wrong on both counts. Neither Wilgy nor Glorfindel will be a successful lynch regardless of whether or not either or both of them claim.

We will get nothing if we lynch either of them. Nothing. Except the game might be over faster.

My dearest Zebs Amongst all the players here, no one makes me laugh like you do. No one makes me want to stand up and cheer like you do. It's comforting for me to know that someone in this game ACTUALLY gets what is going on here.

You were wrong though with what you said before about Sig. I couldn't be more convinced that he is Town. I spoke to you about that. You hold an opposite view. I respect that. You're wrong, but I can still respect your opinion.

Haha, that's sweet. That means something yo.

And actually you're wrong, but I can still respect your opinion too. :P

G-Man wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:He's a cylon so if he claims our number two (should be Wigly) dies and if he doesn't claim then Glor dies. Either way we have a mafia.

You're wrong on both counts. Neither Wilgy nor Glorfindel will be a successful lynch regardless of whether or not either or both of them claim.

We will get nothing if we lynch either of them. Nothing. Except the game might be over faster.

You are wrong. Wilgy and Glorf are cylons. What are the odds they are both good? Especially if I'm to believe Wilgy is good, then Glorf is almost certainly not. So yes, Glorf needs to claim or die. He needs to tell me straight up why he isn't claiming if he chooses not to. Glorf is hiding among the nonclaimers and we need to get him out.

This is really very simple and if you still don't get it, then I'm not wasting time explaining it again to you. I'm hoping others will see it and vote accordingly.

Nothing is simple. That's probably why you think this is something that you can just make people "get" by pretending opinions are facts.

And what facts do you have suggesting that neither Wilgy or Glorfindel are bad? We already know that Wilgy is a Toaster. What info do you have pointing to him being civ-aligned? What facts are available to us suggesting that Glorfindel is good? You're just as opinion-heavy as anyone else, so please drop some facts on me.

My personal read of them is totally irrelevant. I don't know if either of them are good or not (though I'm inclined to think at least one of them is) but I do know that we will not be successful lynching either of them. I'm not obligated to hand out the facts behind it like candy when for one, I haven't promised any facts or pretended that I've already offered any, and two, I haven't elaborated on why I believe this for a reason.

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:He's a cylon so if he claims our number two (should be Wigly) dies and if he doesn't claim then Glor dies. Either way we have a mafia.

You're wrong on both counts. Neither Wilgy nor Glorfindel will be a successful lynch regardless of whether or not either or both of them claim.

We will get nothing if we lynch either of them. Nothing. Except the game might be over faster.

You are wrong. Wilgy and Glorf are cylons. What are the odds they are both good? Especially if I'm to believe Wilgy is good, then Glorf is almost certainly not. So yes, Glorf needs to claim or die. He needs to tell me straight up why he isn't claiming if he chooses not to. Glorf is hiding among the nonclaimers and we need to get him out.

This is really very simple and if you still don't get it, then I'm not wasting time explaining it again to you. I'm hoping others will see it and vote accordingly.

Nothing is simple. That's probably why you think this is something that you can just make people "get" by pretending opinions are facts.

ObscureAllure wrote:He's a cylon so if he claims our number two (should be Wigly) dies and if he doesn't claim then Glor dies. Either way we have a mafia.

You're wrong on both counts. Neither Wilgy nor Glorfindel will be a successful lynch regardless of whether or not either or both of them claim.

We will get nothing if we lynch either of them. Nothing. Except the game might be over faster.

It. Won't. Work.

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Silverwolf, Glorfindel needing to claim today is about as far from a fact as it gets. When you refer to your opinions as facts people are less inclined to co-ordinate with you.

The reason I asked that question is because he would be much more likely to claim if he didn't feel that you were pressuring him to do so. I get that you're trying to achieve both but by trying to do both at once you will accomplish neither, because if he thinks he's going to be lynched then he will only claim when it's too late to lynch someone besides him, and if he thinks he's not going to be lynched then he won't bother to claim because he won't consider the threat serious enough. Because it won't be.

I don't know why you need to express that other players got what you mean. Is there a reason you can't outright say it?

Glorfindel needs to claim today. Even if he does it at the last minute and the lynch is diverted to someone else he needs to claim. The only way that is gonna happen is if we put him in the lead. If I have to case him, fine but I think a lot of his posts are words with no substance. He's a cylon hiding among the non-claimers and odds are good he's not a good one. Now, I'm not gonna repeat myself over and over. He needs to claim today.

And in the spirit of not repeating ourselves, this will be the last time I attempt to get this through your head: He. Won't. Claim.

This post, for example, was created under the influence of black meat.

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:After R

r~~ ~~n~~ r~~~e~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ ~~ r~~ ~~r~~n ~~~~~

"retreat to"

Third word:

Raiders
Rollers
Raiment
Rangers
Rappers

It can't be any of these except raiment since there's no "s" at the end of the third word.

Ricochet wrote:Using my drugs checker
I have confirmation that
Zebra is on them

Actually, my most baseless and unfathomable posts in this game have all been written, read, and published sober. Only the most logical and reasonable of my posts so far were composed and published under the influence of drugs.

It just feels like a cheap way of making someone think that they're not going about things the right way without bothering to explain how or why.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:A2thezebra, why do we fall?

Not to overreact but I am sick of this question. I hated it in the Arkham game and I hate it now.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: You waited until the eighth time I asked to tell me I already answered it?

Why couldn't you answer it before and save us the trouble? Why can't you answer it in your own words now?



Why do you play these games with someone as boneheaded as I?

To illustrate a point, to fuck with you, and to see how many times you would ask.

*and they respond

If someone with a moderate post count asks someone with a higher post count why they've been quiet, what do you think that means?

If when the person with the higher post count asks them "how am I quiet" they respond by completely ignoring them and instead allowing them to display for the entire crowd just how narrow their focus is and how lacking their drive to find baddies is, what do you think that means?

Quiet is not about how little you speak, it's about how quietly you speak.

People don't take a hint, so you throw them a bone. When they don't take the bone, then what do you do?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:A2thezebra, how am I quiet?

You do realize that you just answered your question in the post right above this one right? Never mind that I've been answering it in my own way for over twelve hours now.

This game can only be won if we work together on this.

Baseless no shit, but unproductive? Please.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spoiler: show

a2thezebra wrote:Also Silver, you never answered this question:

a2thezebra wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:If any mislynch is being set up today, then it's not sig, it's Glorfindel.

Or Glorfindel is in fact bad and the other baddies are trying to turn the tide towards him today so no one will be lynched when he claims Cylon right at the end. After that the baddies can sit back, watch town make just a few more mistakes, and the game is lost for us.

It's one of those two.

OMG can you just stop and think for two seconds or do you always just let loose with whatever the hell comes into our brain without thinking it through?

Of all the posts I've made in this game to provoke such a response from you, why this one? I actually present two possibilities here instead of one.

:P

But really, what is your criticism of my opposition to a Glorfindel lynch today? And by criticism, I mean actual criticism.

I like Epi's plan to put Glorfindel up in first place today but the second place person better be someone we are fairly certain is bad. I can't case Glorfindel again right now because I have a fever and am going to bed. But I will. I will be pushing this hard this day phase. I think it's critical we force him to claim. Just make sure number two is someone we have a consensus is scum and make sure Glorf is number one at the end.

Wouldn't it have been wiser to force him to claim before admitting that you'll be pushing for his lynch?

I mean considering that I myself have threatened to claim if I end up being the lynch candidate for today.

Maybe if you had answered it, I wouldn't have expressed the same disdain for a Glorfindel lynch attempt that I did earlier.

Since you didn't answer it however, and since I haven't seen any sort of elaboration from you on the subject of what voting for Glorfindel will actually accomplish, I don't think you're in a position to get angry when I say that I still think that you're forced and that a Glorfindel lynch isn't the way to go. I mean who's not reading whose posts exactly?

You expect other people to answer your questions? Interesting, very interesting...

Do I know you?

Silverwolf, Glorfindel needing to claim today is about as far from a fact as it gets. When you refer to your opinions as facts people are less inclined to co-ordinate with you.

The reason I asked that question is because he would be much more likely to claim if he didn't feel that you were pressuring him to do so. I get that you're trying to achieve both but by trying to do both at once you will accomplish neither, because if he thinks he's going to be lynched then he will only claim when it's too late to lynch someone besides him, and if he thinks he's not going to be lynched then he won't bother to claim because he won't consider the threat serious enough. Because it won't be.

I don't know why you need to express that other players got what you mean. Is there a reason you can't outright say it?

Also, what are baddies? Is that like a thing that people with "reads" talk about?

Fuck, he got us. Okay how are we going to go about this?

I think the best course of action is for you bea, to say that you think I might be bad but that you're not sure. Try not to make it to waffly of course. As for you MM, I suggest you read me as bad because I pretended not to notice your question about thinking you're quiet or whatever. But it's your call guys, I don't care as long as I don't get mislynched because I'm town.

Like if you got a play style beef take it up with the mods. This is how I do.

It's ironic that the people complaining about others not following the thread are the only ones clearly not following the thread.

I mean you yourself said that you're going to push for Glorfindel hard this day phase, doesn't part of that entail convincing the unenlightened such as myself to follow in your footsteps? Which may be accomplished by communicating with me as opposed to saying that I don't think before posting and dismissing my questions/criticisms of your plan as if it's self-evident that you're right?

linki - What?

Also Silver, you never answered this question:

a2thezebra wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:If any mislynch is being set up today, then it's not sig, it's Glorfindel.

Or Glorfindel is in fact bad and the other baddies are trying to turn the tide towards him today so no one will be lynched when he claims Cylon right at the end. After that the baddies can sit back, watch town make just a few more mistakes, and the game is lost for us.

It's one of those two.

OMG can you just stop and think for two seconds or do you always just let loose with whatever the hell comes into our brain without thinking it through?

Of all the posts I've made in this game to provoke such a response from you, why this one? I actually present two possibilities here instead of one.

:P

But really, what is your criticism of my opposition to a Glorfindel lynch today? And by criticism, I mean actual criticism.

I like Epi's plan to put Glorfindel up in first place today but the second place person better be someone we are fairly certain is bad. I can't case Glorfindel again right now because I have a fever and am going to bed. But I will. I will be pushing this hard this day phase. I think it's critical we force him to claim. Just make sure number two is someone we have a consensus is scum and make sure Glorf is number one at the end.

Wouldn't it have been wiser to force him to claim before admitting that you'll be pushing for his lynch?

I mean considering that I myself have threatened to claim if I end up being the lynch candidate for today.

Maybe if you had answered it, I wouldn't have expressed the same disdain for a Glorfindel lynch attempt that I did earlier.

Since you didn't answer it however, and since I haven't seen any sort of elaboration from you on the subject of what voting for Glorfindel will actually accomplish, I don't think you're in a position to get angry when I say that I still think that you're forced and that a Glorfindel lynch isn't the way to go. I mean who's not reading whose posts exactly?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:That being said, the push for Glorfindel's lynch today is utterly absurd, regardless of whether those pushing for his lynch actually want to lynch him or simply pressure him until he claims. Here's the thing...he won't claim, and if he does it will be too late to lynch someone else. I still believe that Silverwolf was forced since she's acting way, way more irrationally today than she was before.

Sigh............I can't play like this.

I give up.

Seriously. Nobody is reading a word I say.

Have fun guys. I'm not participating in this.

Welcome to my world.

Holy crap where have you been? You've missed like two day phases now, care to explain?

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:That being said, the push for Glorfindel's lynch today is utterly absurd, regardless of whether those pushing for his lynch actually want to lynch him or simply pressure him until he claims. Here's the thing...he won't claim, and if he does it will be too late to lynch someone else. I still believe that Silverwolf was forced since she's acting way, way more irrationally today than she was before.

Sigh............I can't play like this.

I give up.

Seriously. Nobody is reading a word I say.

Have fun guys. I'm not participating in this.

I'm reading everything you say. I'm sorry you don't like what I have to say about what you've been saying lately, but don't bullshit me please.

And what do you mean like this? I'm not forcing you to play like anything, nor is anyone else. I play how I please and you should too.

Ricochet wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I know who the captain is. Try to lynch me and I'll spill the beans!

I'm town so stop suspecting me! You have no reason to suspect me when I'm town!

behind the water,
Emperor and Tiger walk.
Cuba starts pulling.

That smiley is on a fourth line! SEIZE HIM!