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juliets wrote:
Keterman wrote:I have a gut scum read on juliets and since no one else is looking bad at the moment, my vote's going to her. It could change later in the day though, LoRab isn't looking great either. Mongoose is town methinks, and I don't understand the wagon on her.
You don't know me very well and you will find out that your gut where I am concerned is wrong.

Stronger read now, if you were town you would've questioned why that post seemed like a day post when it is night. Instead you are just concerned with my read.

I have a gut scum read on juliets and since no one else is looking bad at the moment, my vote's going to her. It could change later in the day though, LoRab isn't looking great either. Mongoose is town methinks, and I don't understand the wagon on her.

I'm going to parrot my strongest town read, bwt. Usually when I second guess myself I end up wrong and mad that I second guessed myself. A vote for SVS it is. Her defenses aren't bad but nothing can really save what she did.

Hmmmm....re-evaluating my reads at the moment. I'm biased against a scum read on Llama because to me he acts scummy all of the time, almost literally every post he makes. SVS's defenses have sounded genuine to me so far. Canucklehead I'm unsure about. I'll see where the day goes before I make any conclusions.

We agree on BWT. If he's scum then he's playing a very good scum game.

linki - No problem, thank you for not letting me be the only one.

S~V~S wrote:More than anything you are reminding me of you in Fight Club, Keterman, when you were SO SURE LC was a civ, and Llama was bad (and the truth was the exact opposite).

Unlike some of the folks that have come for me, i think you are likely civ, as you were in that game. I also see civ BWT; he is earnest and not remotely being opportunistic.

Overconfidence is my style, and for someone who points that out a lot, I'm surprised you haven't gotten used to it yet.

Point 1 isn't meta-based. Point 2 is meta-based regarding Made but not regarding you. Point 3 isn't meta-based. Point 4 isn't meta-based.

Keterman wrote:Canucklehead, I don't understand why I'm expected to post a case on SVS when everything I've found scummy about her I've pointed out already. If anything that post led me to the conclusion of you being her teammate more likely, although heaven forbid one of you two start claiming that the bulk of my case rested on you being on the same team if the other is revealed to be town. But to remind the rest of town:

1. Opportunistic vote for MR, covered by a claim of putting faith in one of MY overconfident, unwarranted reads, and subsequent disappointment in me after the flip, taking no responsibility for her own vote.

2. Sloppy, rehearsed defenses and a derailment towards Made to distract from the case against her, leading toward a civilian lynch that could've easily been prevented. Again I will say that anyone in Misfits should have known that Made was town in this game. SVS's sarcastic response to my initial statement of that post was ironic because without the orange font, it could easily interpreted as favoring my argument. Yes, an enthusiastic teenager Mafia will not be expected to change his game up, and it's funny that that would be your counterargument because it was clear before the lynch that he didn't change his game up at all. Did you think his plan was to act the same way he did in Misfits and get away with it as scum? If he was scum, then it would make more sense that he would act differently. But he acted the same, and yet didn't rely on meta as a defense, unlike you.

3. The classic pitying act. "Woe is me, the rest of town just can't handle my godlike reads, I have no choice but to give up. See? Only town would do this, therefore instead of actually putting up a good defense for myself I would use this gambit to attempt to show you something that only a town would do. A sad, sad, town. That's me. I'm town." Although I don't give SVS enough credit here. She disguised her I'm-town-and-I-give-up act as something else, and was that she...wanted to wait to defend herself? I don't know, but points for originality, even though I can't begin to imagine how that's managed to fool anyone.

4. Not following through with the classic pitying act. SVS has continued to post, and has done so because she realized that her act wasn't as convincing as it seemed before she tried it. Her defenses? Meta, as I mentioned earlier. "See, you guys know that I wouldn't be playing like this if I were scum, therefore I'm not scum! Ta-daaaa! don't lynch me plz"

Also I'm alarmed at how little comments there were regarding my thoughts on Canuck.

And now point 5, a grain of salt: Why say "I'm not bad" rather than "I'm good/civvie/town"?

Boogs wrote:Guys I really advise us SVS isn't the way to go today. Re read her and see her behavior is genuine. Voting for her is going to cause us to miss a Baddie once again. The ones pushing so hard for her have my eyes IMO.

This post is very scummy. You want to change the course of the day yet provide no explanation as to why or how we should listen to your suggestion. Why isn't SVS the way to go? How is her behavior genuine (telling us to reread her isn't nearly enough, I provided points as to how it's NOT genuine, why not provide points to the contrary?)? Why do the ones pushing her have your eyes? (and in your opinion, as if there are other opinions as to where your eyes should be directed)

Just a really forced post all-around.

linki-If you claim to have addressed the points, why admit that your defenses were meta-based, and use that as your reason for not providing more convincing defenses when the points against you are not meta-based?

S~V~S wrote:Linki, thats cause the cases have been basically Meta.

Look at this post, everyone. Denying the case to avoid making a good defense.

Canucklehead, I don't understand why I'm expected to post a case on SVS when everything I've found scummy about her I've pointed out already. If anything that post led me to the conclusion of you being her teammate more likely, although heaven forbid one of you two start claiming that the bulk of my case rested on you being on the same team if the other is revealed to be town. But to remind the rest of town:

1. Opportunistic vote for MR, covered by a claim of putting faith in one of MY overconfident, unwarranted reads, and subsequent disappointment in me after the flip, taking no responsibility for her own vote.

2. Sloppy, rehearsed defenses and a derailment towards Made to distract from the case against her, leading toward a civilian lynch that could've easily been prevented. Again I will say that anyone in Misfits should have known that Made was town in this game. SVS's sarcastic response to my initial statement of that post was ironic because without the orange font, it could easily interpreted as favoring my argument. Yes, an enthusiastic teenager Mafia will not be expected to change his game up, and it's funny that that would be your counterargument because it was clear before the lynch that he didn't change his game up at all. Did you think his plan was to act the same way he did in Misfits and get away with it as scum? If he was scum, then it would make more sense that he would act differently. But he acted the same, and yet didn't rely on meta as a defense, unlike you.

3. The classic pitying act. "Woe is me, the rest of town just can't handle my godlike reads, I have no choice but to give up. See? Only town would do this, therefore instead of actually putting up a good defense for myself I would use this gambit to attempt to show you something that only a town would do. A sad, sad, town. That's me. I'm town." Although I don't give SVS enough credit here. She disguised her I'm-town-and-I-give-up act as something else, and was that she...wanted to wait to defend herself? I don't know, but points for originality, even though I can't begin to imagine how that's managed to fool anyone.

4. Not following through with the classic pitying act. SVS has continued to post, and has done so because she realized that her act wasn't as convincing as it seemed before she tried it. Her defenses? Meta, as I mentioned earlier. "See, you guys know that I wouldn't be playing like this if I were scum, therefore I'm not scum! Ta-daaaa! don't lynch me plz"

Also I'm alarmed at how little comments there were regarding my thoughts on Canuck.

Anyone who was in Misfits should have known that Made could not be more obviously town. So I'm looking at the people who were in Misfits yet voted for him all the same, and of course SVS and Canucklehead.

There's one t in my name, not two. And for the record I do think it's likely that you are scum, but I'm more positive on my read on Canucklehead and more still on my read on SVS.

Made wrote:
Keterman wrote:Also, Canucklehead compares herself to bwt with her position. Yet their positions are clearly completely different. bwt said that he thinks that both SVS and Made are bad, and that it is only a matter of which one of them is more likely to be bad. Canucklehead thinks that Made is town and didn't even mention the possibility that SVS is bad in her post, only referencing her to ask Made a question. I am now willing to lynch Canuck.

linki - When did I say I was cursed? My keyboard was having problems. I would type a sentence and I would have to wait 30+ seconds to find out if it would render in the reply-machine-whatchamacallit. I got sick of how time consuming that was so I just started posting whatever ended up showing up. Now I've found a solution for it so it's all good.
I assumed that your text was scrambled and it was a force vote. As for Canuck, I'm honestly not sure at all. Defending me would give her a ton of civvie cred upon my death.

That's not the point. She defended you...yet voted for you. She thinks (or more likely knows) that you're town...yet is contributing to your lynch. What town motivation could there possibly be for succumbing to a mislynch? There's no way around it, she has to be scum.

Also, Canucklehead compares herself to bwt with her position. Yet their positions are clearly completely different. bwt said that he thinks that both SVS and Made are bad, and that it is only a matter of which one of them is more likely to be bad. Canucklehead thinks that Made is town and didn't even mention the possibility that SVS is bad in her post, only referencing her to ask Made a question. I am now willing to lynch Canuck.

linki - When did I say I was cursed? My keyboard was having problems. I would type a sentence and I would have to wait 30+ seconds to find out if it would render in the reply-machine-whatchamacallit. I got sick of how time consuming that was so I just started posting whatever ended up showing up. Now I've found a solution for it so it's all good.

Canucklehead wrote:Made: why would SVS work so hard to get you, specifically, to trust her?

Anywho, I'm kind of in the same mindset as bwt on this one: I defended Made for a while b/c I thought his zany style seemed like crazy civ Made from misfits, and I legit thought a lovers scenario was a possibility...but Made denying that, and the inability of the thread to look at/talk about anything without it always coming back to Made means I'm willing to go along with the GroupThink here and vote for him. I do legitimately believe he's a civ, but I have no way of being certain, no way of proving that to anyone, and honestly very little chance of changing anyone's mind. And I'm not so proud that I'm unwilling to defer to people who feel much more strongly that he's bad than I do thy he's good. So I'll vote Made.

Linki: whooooaaa. I left this response sitting I posted for many hours. Posting anyway, reading linki later

So you were down to lynch someone who you think is town just because everyone else is voting for him? And you wrote this post before he had as many votes as he does now? You're scum.

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The bat fellow is far from wise. Beethoven wasn't always deaf, which meant that even when he became deaf he was able to hear the sounds of his music in his mind. And that's all that matters.

Disguising, or as reality deems it, DISTRACTING from the complete lack of defense with a monumentally false provocation of sub-superiority awakened by the glamorous, aesthetically unwise boasts of a higher brow, all above the inevitable looming, closing shadow of cyberdeath. Well played, SVS.

Why would SVS, an experienced mafia player, put her faith in the confidence of a player who had been almost completely inactive up until that very point, and with no evidence or solid reasoning to back up that confidence? Because she was looking for an opportunity to find a counterwagon so her teammate doesn't end up lynched. The obviously fake "awwww but Keterman was so confident" post after MR flipped town seals the deal.

Seriously, have a thorough read of the MR wagon. Some votes may be civilians not knowing what's best and jumping on the wagon because they liked it slightly better than Made's, but in S-V-S's case, there is no excuse. That was a scummy vote if there ever was one. I've got my eye on everyone who voted MR before juliets' vote, as well as juliets herself. Anyone who was pretending that my posts made sense at that time was clearly trying to pull the strings, and it worked. Town reads on bwt and Dana.

I was the second to vote MR, blatantly providing reasons so vague it might as well have been a gut read. SVS shortly after switched her vote to MR. In her posts she was against Made, in her vote she was for Made. It's simple. They're teammates.

Jules and Knuckles, I highly recommend voting MR.

nijuukyugou wrote:I'm starving and I just got home from work. I'm going with Made for reasons already stated (simplicity and all that jazz) so I can eat and relax sans computer for a while, as I've been working with one all day and I'd like a break I plan on being back later tonight to check the thread.

Yay quesadilla time! And happy birthday, MR!

This is a weak vote. You should know as well as I do that Made has not done anything against his history as a benevolent gangster.

linki - His suspicions are make-believe, and from that comes the contradiction.

S~V~S wrote:Keterman voted MR, Teefies.

Does he have anything to add toMades case, I wonder?

Linki fest

You and Long Con are townies under the influence of dark spirrrritual forccces...

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Keterman wrote:See vote.
And why do you think MR is bad?

His posts appear insincere and contrived to manipulate the civilian masses.

See vote.

Remember fellow townies, it's not too late to change your vote, nor is it too late to place your vote on a scum-aligned player.

Made town.

I'll post in a couple of hours at my collegecaabl that-Fi has usable Wi-FiFi

thellama73 wrote:Hey guys, let's fill up dozens of pages with Monty Python reference silliness to make it impossible for anyone checking in late to catch up!

How dare you!

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