The Syndicate

i have 2 bottles of rosé chilling in the fridge as we speak. it's mateus which is eeeeehhh but they were on sale when i bought dad christmas wine, so i bought a whole box of 12 bottles for just 1euros each lmao

i can't wait till tomorrow.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:14 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:49 pm dunya is my top suspect and I'm probably not voting anywhere else, if she indeed flips mafia then great, if she flips town then she's highly unlikely to have been the mafia's target so they wouldn't get a kill so it's the best of both worlds. if dunya somehow is actually the target then i've simply been outplayed and that's that
D1 mafia getting a kill is actually better than them not getting a kill, it gives a bunch of info to work with

Like worst case today is that we kill a town and mafia don’t have a NK.

yikes if that's worst case.

not worst case for me tho.

i wanna drink and partyyyyyy

since we're in lockdown no party.

i miss my wine a lot tho. tomorrow is friday and i'll be allowed to drink again. sooooo excited.

ok i've decided a few things.

first of all, nutella is kinda right. me being the d1 target if ya'll don't agree on someone else is not the worst result for reasons stated.

secondly, i want more fluff posting by me because i promised myself to not get worked up in this game as practice for my hydra game with nanook.

break a leg guyz ;p

no you're not. town alison always sees town dunya. and mafia alison always pockets town dunya.

nutella locking her vote on me with over 24hrs to go is super lame :P

PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:49 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:41 pm
PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:39 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:29 pm
PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:25 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:13 pm her poe now is also bad. i know why i have nanook out of my poe, for example, but why wouldn't her poe include nanook? bad.
Let's just say if Nanook is mafia I'm saving him for later. Like my POE is for today only, if we solve everybody there and need to take a look somebody else Nanook will be in that pool. I have no real reason to push him atm.
why are those three your pool for today then?
While I'd consider you and Nanook to be null, I'm leaning more on the scummy side than the townie side for you, and more on the townie side than the scummy side for Nanook. Nutella's earlier posts (can collect if need) seemed a little odd to me, and Marmot is suspiciously null. Everyone else is townie enough to stay out of the POE.
esooa is town to you?
Yeah, more townie than those in the POE at least. Of course I'd still like some more posts from her, but I wouldn't necessarily want to chop her today.

what places esooa as a town read to you? very curious.

PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:39 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:29 pm
PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:25 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:13 pm her poe now is also bad. i know why i have nanook out of my poe, for example, but why wouldn't her poe include nanook? bad.
Let's just say if Nanook is mafia I'm saving him for later. Like my POE is for today only, if we solve everybody there and need to take a look somebody else Nanook will be in that pool. I have no real reason to push him atm.
why are those three your pool for today then?
While I'd consider you and Nanook to be null, I'm leaning more on the scummy side than the townie side for you, and more on the townie side than the scummy side for Nanook. Nutella's earlier posts (can collect if need) seemed a little odd to me, and Marmot is suspiciously null. Everyone else is townie enough to stay out of the POE.

esooa is town to you?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:39 pm town dunya, like in pyre, would just turn this into a full on omgus mutual tunnel back and forth slapfight

but no, you admit i'm town and are just trying to appeal/find holes in my arguments

is it because you know i'm town

lol

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:36 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:25 pm yeah sorry, i will never play mafia in any setup like that at all.

i have suspects. idgaf if yeeting mafia means they get a kill.
you think they picked themselves huh

i mean if you really think that then sure it's worth it for the 1/1 trade lol

but nah

if it were me maybe I'd pick myself bc I often get caught d1 as mafia but idk if that really applies to anyone else here?

what?

you're saying i'm going for the "easy targets" who the mafia could have picked, therefore i am mafia. 'm saying i'm going for "my suspects"

if the easy targets are my suspects, i don't care if yeeting them gives them a kill.

PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:25 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:13 pm her poe now is also bad. i know why i have nanook out of my poe, for example, but why wouldn't her poe include nanook? bad.
Let's just say if Nanook is mafia I'm saving him for later. Like my POE is for today only, if we solve everybody there and need to take a look somebody else Nanook will be in that pool. I have no real reason to push him atm.

why are those three your pool for today then?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:21 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:19 pm idc about the whole "let's not yeet someone the mafia pick"

they could very well pick each other. who the fuck cares. i'm going to push whoever i think is suspect end of.
this is just terrible. come on

like how is this terrible? i need 4 people to say it's terrible to push your suspects for me to stop playing this game and follow the herd.

PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:19 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:17 pm i don't know what changed from that readlist to remove epi from her poe either.
I read his ISO

hmm but he didn't post anything new from when you posted your reads

yeah sorry, i will never play mafia in any setup like that at all.

i have suspects. idgaf if yeeting mafia means they get a kill.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:15 pm you're mafia looking for a weak reason to push someone, not town trying to look for how mafia would actually approach this day
i feel like you're really overthinking the setup
i think i'm appropriately thinking about it and taking it into consideration for how i find mafia. that's the point.

you are mafia who thought you could rely on traditional approaches to yeet lhf

"let's not yeet who we find most scummy, but instead do mind gymnastics and account for wiofm and rand to account for who the mafia couldn't have picked today and yeet between them even tho they could have just picked each other every night..."

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:21 pm the entire fucking point of playing this game is the unique approach and how we can actually think about how to solve who's mafia based on the pushes rather than lame shit like "oh that person made a hedgy post lol"

bye

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:20 pm it's supposed to give you at least a little something more than "oh that person hasnt posted anything towny"

no, because i specifically explained WHY that post makes me feel she's mafia, more than once even, so get another narrative that you're pushing at me.

that post does not make me feel she did townie things. it makes me feel like mafia trying to do townie things.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:15 pm you're mafia looking for a weak reason to push someone, not town trying to look for how mafia would actually approach this day

i feel like you're really overthinking the setup

idc about the whole "let's not yeet someone the mafia pick"

they could very well pick each other. who the fuck cares. i'm going to push whoever i think is suspect end of.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:14 pm the nature of this game is making me think in convoluted wifomy ways about how to approach it but maybe im overthinking it

but like.... i don't think dunya is likely to have been the mafia's n0 target, and I suspect her, and she's pushing people who seem too easy, so it seems optimal to go for her today

and I have one or two people I think could be her teammate but I think I'm going to keep quiet about who those suspects are today because if I'm wrong the mafia will just choose them next

omg if you're town can you just not fucking tunnel me from day 1 for 1 game in our lives please. holy shit.

if you're mafia and trying to do that reverse thing you do so i town read you, it's not gonna work. i'm just gonna throw a fit this time so you REASSESS

PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:12 am All right, looks like we're starting to get to the game-solve-y part now, so I guess I'll try and give some hot takes.

As much as I want Tutuu to be scum (I just can't stand when things are unbalanced...she's been town too many times in a row my brain needs to even it out) I think she's probably just town here. Her thinking-aloud posts show a townie hesitation and thought process, wanting to get things right. I could still be wrong here but that's my thinking.

For some reason I want to scumread Epignosis? That's just a gut instinct though and I have a feeling they have the kind of playstyle I just auto-scumread and have to force myself to reevaluate.

I feel like I should have a better read on Dunya but every time I pick a read my mind goes wait no and I'm back to square one. So idk there

Nutella reads slightly scummy but I have no reasoning there

I want to go hmmm at Nanook and Esooa for what seems like purposely avoiding game-related discussion but I can't really blame them when there isn't anything there. They're also just probably the type to do that so meh

Marmot is meh and that's all I've got

This is more of a random-thoughts list than a readlist, and I'm sorry it isn't very helpful. This is the only way I'm going to start solving though so I gotta start somewhere

Anyways, goin' to bed now see you tomorrow

....

this is supposed to have me locktown psi? it reads like scum can't come up with good reasons to scumread anyone tbh.

i don't know what changed from that readlist to remove epi from her poe either.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:57 pm And idk why you don't think psi's thoughts dump was at least a little bit towny, I've played with her once before and she writes long posts just as her style and I thought her takes were organic and genuine.

because i got 0 out of it? it's hedgy and nonconclusive for someone who loves to avoid fluff and get down to mafiaing and give readlists. was weak.

her poe now is also bad. i know why i have nanook out of my poe, for example, but why wouldn't her poe include nanook? bad.

excellent.

stay there, nice and warm and safe.

but you're still my little spoon

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:47 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:44 am in my head tutuu is kendall jenner's size

but with shorter hair and glasses.
Awww lol haahahahahah

i forgot to add cuter and sweeter too.

you're my supermodel <3

but look at those legs

im not wrong

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:47 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:04 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:13 pm I think nutella knows damn well dunya isn't going to get lynched Day 1, and that hesitation looks phony. [VOTE: dunya] aubergine
my first thought when i saw this was ohhh i buy it. yep. i see why he did that.

but now at reread it's not like that.

if me and nutella are teammates, the hesitation isn't just phony, she's prevoted for who to eliminate this day phase and im pretty sure it isn't me. (even if nutella is actually wolf here, she's not voting me to be the d1 lynch for sure). why would she phony it in with me?

like, i think epignosis should conclude more from that nutella being w than dunya and nutella being w/w. it's very a strange progression. the words make sense, but just not entirely in this game setup.

i dunno if this is some magical distancing strategy from nutella and epi, but wolf epi would have a better reading of the game setup i think so im leaning town there now.

and im not bothered about town epi, cos he is an asset to town and will be able to see town dunya eventually.

i did mind gymnastics to get here. that's a weak ass read dunya, im disappoint.
I didn't really understand the conclusion that you disagreeing with epi means he's more towny

see tutuu's post above. she words things better than i do.

this game would be even cooler if someone is the black 8-ball (in town) and town loses if this person is ever yeeted. like a mine in minesweeper.

in my head tutuu is kendall jenner's size

but with shorter hair and glasses.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:39 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:29 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:13 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:09 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:06 am i've never seen wold nanook ftr. but this feels like town nanook.
that was meant to say wolf, but now it looks like i was trying to say wild lol
I only get wild on full moons
imagining you as a werewolf now, dancing to a full moon

i mean....you are hairy enough for it ;p
Rude

I mean

True

But rude!

hairy is good. rawr.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:35 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:55 am [VOTE: marmot] aubergine
Dunya i just skimmed over your iso again and i didnt see you saying anything to and about marmot, did i miss it?

no

i just have no reason to townread marmot and psinightmare, everyone else has given me *some* reason.

like nanook is lock town, never rescind.

epi and nutella are a coin flip. i would be very surprised if they were w/w and our jokey day 0 nutella to epi messages will go up in the hall of fame imo.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:28 am i would be surprised if there isnt at least 1 mafia in dunya - nutella - epignosis

limp post but

me too but my gth says otherwise

i guess i don't think they can be w/w more than there cant be 1 wolf in them and since my spidey senses said the logic in epi's posts was so far off and twtbw, nutella would be my wildcard

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:13 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:09 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:06 am i've never seen wold nanook ftr. but this feels like town nanook.
that was meant to say wolf, but now it looks like i was trying to say wild lol
I only get wild on full moons

imagining you as a werewolf now, dancing to a full moon

i mean....you are hairy enough for it ;p

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:10 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:08 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:06 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:56 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:18 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:20 am y is esooa town tutuu?
I cant write anything more than what i already wrote on her at that time
have you seen competitive esooa as mafia before?
im just going off of what she has told me about herself outside of mafia (before this game) (that shes competitive), and if i were to put myself in her shoes, i decided its probably towny for me if i decided to say that i wanna take it chill this game

anyway i lost confidence in all of my townreads as i said, im waiting for now
hmm, i find people who take a step back from their usual erratic posting style to be mafia-leans to me because it's hard to replicate that carefree posting style as mafia. i can post a lot as town, i can never post as much as mafia simply because i have the game solved. especially in a setup like this one where there's no 3p hunting or second mafia team where i can blend.

Right, this makes sense, but i dont think competitive necessarily equates to erratic posting style or struggling to post as mafia

sure, i'll just watch as see what esooa does. i'll trust you for now.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:07 am Damn that looks good. Reminds me of that scene from inglorious basterds. I just wanna put the cream on top and eat it and listen to the noises like ASMR

i would love to bake things for you

when i was recovering from my surgery, i watched that asmr HD cooking guy you linked us to in the kitchen thread. it was sooooo soothing. but hes sooooo patient. cookie dough would never last overnight in my fridge.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:06 am i've never seen wold nanook ftr. but this feels like town nanook.

that was meant to say wolf, but now it looks like i was trying to say wild lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:06 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:56 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:18 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:20 am y is esooa town tutuu?
I cant write anything more than what i already wrote on her at that time
have you seen competitive esooa as mafia before?
im just going off of what she has told me about herself outside of mafia (before this game) (that shes competitive), and if i were to put myself in her shoes, i decided its probably towny for me if i decided to say that i wanna take it chill this game

anyway i lost confidence in all of my townreads as i said, im waiting for now

hmm, i find people who take a step back from their usual erratic posting style to be mafia-leans to me because it's hard to replicate that carefree posting style as mafia. i can post a lot as town, i can never post as much as mafia simply because i have the game solved. especially in a setup like this one where there's no 3p hunting or second mafia team where i can blend.

i didnt find things psinightmare had to say in her readslist convincing at all; it felt like mafia struggling to find reasons why to tr or wr someone.

nutella doubling down on me felt very authentic and town-nutella-esque. but i'll get a better read on her as the game progresses.

i've never seen wold nanook ftr. but this feels like town nanook.

i have no reason to town read marmot or PSINightmare atp in time.

here's a pic of my sweet potato pie. i love it more the next day.

GTH reads here we go

Epignosis / t
Esooa / t
Marmot / w
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME / t
nutella / t
PSINightmareEmpower / w
tutuu / t

interesting.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:06 am tbh I didn't like much of what she had to say (it wasn't bad but meh)

wow rude

this new generation of mafia players need to learn to r e s p e c t my reads :P

what didnt you like about what i had to say tbh?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:18 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:20 am y is esooa town tutuu?
I cant write anything more than what i already wrote on her at that time

have you seen competitive esooa as mafia before?

y is esooa town tutuu?

winkwink tutuu

I'll townshield nanook tbh

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:11 am I've been strongly leading a lot of my forum games and it's been really exhausting so kinda hoping to take this one a bit more relaxed but we'll see if I can handle myself not to post 1000 times

i mean sure, but like, give us some indication you're town before you do that?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:34 pm that was my first thought. but then i thought - isnt it a bit too much? perhaps a tad bit theatrical? "Maybe she'll speak now that she's being spoken to " <- this part

oh wow on reread of that sentence that sounds really snarky and rude. that was a joke because she popped up when i voted for her then disappeared again, not being rude i swear pls don't hate me psinightmare.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:24 pm I’m blindly TRing PSI and accepting them as town I think

tell me more. have you played with them before?

PSINightmareEmpower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:12 am
I feel like I should have a better read on Dunya but every time I pick a read my mind goes wait no and I'm back to square one. So idk there

I want to go hmmm at Nanook and Esooa for what seems like purposely avoiding game-related discussion but I can't really blame them when there isn't anything there. They're also just probably the type to do that so meh

why *should* you have a better read on me?

our day 0 strategy was to avoid game related discussion to not give mafia ideas on who to vote for. it was a sound strategy. 10/10 would do again.

interesting that psinightmare's two picks for elimination are epignosis and nutella.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:13 pm I think nutella knows damn well dunya isn't going to get lynched Day 1, and that hesitation looks phony. [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

my first thought when i saw this was ohhh i buy it. yep. i see why he did that.

but now at reread it's not like that.

if me and nutella are teammates, the hesitation isn't just phony, she's prevoted for who to eliminate this day phase and im pretty sure it isn't me. (even if nutella is actually wolf here, she's not voting me to be the d1 lynch for sure). why would she phony it in with me?

like, i think epignosis should conclude more from that nutella being w than dunya and nutella being w/w. it's very a strange progression. the words make sense, but just not entirely in this game setup.

i dunno if this is some magical distancing strategy from nutella and epi, but wolf epi would have a better reading of the game setup i think so im leaning town there now.

and im not bothered about town epi, cos he is an asset to town and will be able to see town dunya eventually.

i did mind gymnastics to get here. that's a weak ass read dunya, im disappoint.

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