The Syndicate

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:47 am

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:27 am

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:51 am Can you point out the post that gave you the impression lapluie was being manipulative?

It wasn’t one specific post, it was more a general tonal thing. Perhaps manipulative was the wrong word - perhaps unauthentic, if that’s a word I’ll see what I can find to demonstrate what I mean. May I also please ask your opinion of Kyle? I really want to believe he’s OK but just when I start to believe...

Congrats on the cruise too! May I ask where you’re going and for how long? At the rate we’re going, this game will be well and truly over by the time you leave - please forgive my negativity )

GTH I call him town. I've lost interest in my early beefs with him. I don't think his comments about marmot reflect badly on him.

I'm staying in Sydney for a night and then heading to NZ. Gonna make stops in Auckland and some other cities/islands. I'll be back on the 8th.

May I also ask how you interpret Jay’s earlier claim specifically in relation to Rule # 3 for this game?

Cool! Need someone to carry your bags?

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:51 am Can you point out the post that gave you the impression lapluie was being manipulative?

It wasn’t one specific post, it was more a general tonal thing. Perhaps manipulative was the wrong word - perhaps unauthentic, if that’s a word I’ll see what I can find to demonstrate what I mean. May I also please ask your opinion of Kyle? I really want to believe he’s OK but just when I start to believe...

Congrats on the cruise too! May I ask where you’re going and for how long? At the rate we’re going, this game will be well and truly over by the time you leave - please forgive my negativity )

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:12 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:08 am Quin who are you looking at for today's lynch?

I keep on feeling like I'm not getting the full story from lapluie. I could go there. Players unlikely to get my vote today are Eloh and Jack.

Good to see you still with us today, Quin I’m a little worried about the cruise thing if that means it will in any way limit your participation in this game...

I would agree with you about Eloh - I’ve read nothing that suggests to me that she’s Mafia and she’d be far from the top of my suspected Mafiosos this game (if I had such a list, that is ) and I’m starting to get strange vibes about Lapluie myself. There was something I can’t quite put my finger on about her interaction with Dunya that I thought came off as a little ‘manipulative’ if that’s the right word. I wouldn’t be clearing Jack quite so fast however.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:10 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:54 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:48 am Jackofhearts2005 Glorfindel TonyStarkPrime

thoughts on marmot?

over-confident mafia fucking around to distract us or indie fucking around to distract us

I don't think two mafia members claim indy today. But I can't be sure.

Would be worth figuring out who Ermac is based on sentence structure, etc but I'm really tired.

marmot's recent actions don't make sense as a match to the ermac sock, ermac seemed helpful and civvie-minded, at least on the surface marmot seems... chaotic.

I think he's the real Kano and went back on it after he was reminded of his role's win condition and seeing how close the mafia are to victory

I simply cannot accept that someone as skilled and experienced as Marmot could make such a newbie mistake. The fact that you could even suggest such a thing is giving me the heebie-jeebies...

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:48 am @Jackofhearts2005 @Glorfindel @TonyStarkPrime

thoughts on marmot?

over-confident mafia fucking around to distract us or indie fucking around to distract us

I’m not sure what to make of him to be honest. At this point, I’m considering just putting all the people I don’t feel sure about in some randomiser and let it do the work for me - let probability do the job for me

Where is our friend Quin? He’s in precisely the same time zone as I yet he’s not posted yet...? Seems strange.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:26 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:00 am Or why Glor didn’t die

I don't know if that's something we can figure out.

Beats me. I really wasn’t counting on being back here for another Day...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:20 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:13 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:53 pm I'm not a civilian.

I'm not mafia either.

I'm gonna lynch you anyway.

Then you don't care about the civilian win condition.

We have no reason to believe you are neutral and you have shown yourself to be against the town. At best you are an honorary mafia member with a weak nightpower. More likely, you are actually mafia.

Doesn't really matter.

Allow me to give you a little advice for future games which you can take or leave:

What I said before about catching mafia not being that easy was the truth. Recall Mountain Mafia. You helped to lynch me, correctly, and for that you deserve credit. Well done and well played. What you did very poorly though was to identify my teammates, and it was the result of you following the most blindingly obvious leads in the thread (Quin and Dom) and ignoring the subtleties of my play.

If you read my posts in this game and actually respect the subtlety, I think you can figure this out. I've given you the answer, all you need to do is find the clues.

I'm not "against the town" as much as you might want to make that assumption for the pleasure of lynching me. The civilians have a limited number of lynches left in this game to eliminate five mafia members. Indeed, I'd be surprised if you have more than 8 opportunities to get 5 baddies. And if you lynch me, you'll have 7 opportunities to get 5 baddies. Don't like what I have to say? Don't trust me? Then don't listen to me.

If you fail to heed my words and you're a civilian, then that is your fault and I can't be assed to help you. I have nobody in this game to disappoint other than myself, and that isn't happening when I am already so goddamned bored.

That last sentence makes me feel rather sad...

Not that it matters what I think now but if I were around next Day phase, I wouldn’t consider lynching Elohcin. She’s claimed consideration from us on compassionate grounds (I too, wish you a speedy recovery, Eloh) and I cannot believe that she would take advantage of that as Mafia. That (to me) would be totally unconscionable and I’d frankly never play again with anyone that did something as unethical as that. I don’t believe Eloh is that kind of person.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:56 am Had I not been so unjustly disenfranchised, I would have tried to save dunya and lynch Simon. I agreed with Jay that speedchuck was the better option, but since he didn't get enough votes and it came down to a near-tie I'd probably have gone Simon. I must admit I did have some doubts about dunya for a bit when the wagon was picking up, but her pleads when it came down to the wire sounded sincere.

I haven't done any in-depth analysis but off the top of my head Jack, Kyle, Lap, and Rabbit come out of this looking pretty good, and Eloh, Quin, LC, and Speed come out looking not-so-good. Jack and Rabbit especially (and Mac but he's dead) did some solid confident hunting work both before and after the result there, and I'm inclined to follow their intuitions. I can't decide how I feel about Jay but I suppose I could see the tinfoil that he's mafia with Simon and Speed. Geez being in two concurrent games with several of the same players is mentally exhausting, I'm trying not to conflate too much meta from Fiddler but I have so many confusing tinfoily wifomy thoughts about Jay in both games lol. It's been hard to keep track but I definitely have a more traditionally civ vibe from him in this game compared to that one, but compared to previous games where he was supatown it's been a bit on the weaker side.

I disagree. I bought Jack’s pursuit of Dunya after LC suggested that there was more to it (in that Jack had intel on her) but once it became clear that wasn’t the case, I assumed (correctly) that the Dunya case held no water at all. I’m still struggling to see how anyone bought into that lynch and one must surely conclude that there must be some Mafia on that wagon - and more if you interpret her lynching as a ‘Simon-rescue’.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:02 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:52 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:30 pm Tough lynch. Should have been a baddie. RIP.

Damn straight! We were handed a life line with the last night’s results and we just threw it away. I can’t see any logic voting Dunya over Simon in the first place and now we’re saying that Simon is Town?

I’m kinda glad that I won’t be around to endure this after the next 24 hours.

epingosis wrote:4. No double-targeting (targeting the same individual with a power twice in a row) or self-targeting.

if ermac was right/telling the truth then you're probably safe

It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that he was talking through his arse...

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:30 pm Tough lynch. Should have been a baddie. RIP.

Damn straight! We were handed a life line with the last night’s results and we just threw it away. I can’t see any logic voting Dunya over Simon in the first place and now we’re saying that Simon is Town?

I’m kinda glad that I won’t be around to endure this after the next 24 hours.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:36 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:33 pm @MacDougall If what you say about a Simon bus is true (and it looks like a compelling proposition to me) why not give them what they want? That way, we are certain of removing a Mafia where as we can’t be as certain of the others?

He could just be a patsy but it would be ballsy to just lynch a civ like that. They know he is mafia because they are. I don't care who goes.

OK, then. I think the odds appear best on Simon though. We can postulate after we get one of them this phase. Voting Simon.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] If what you say about a Simon bus is true (and it looks like a compelling proposition to me) why not give them what they want? That way, we are certain of removing a Mafia where as we can’t be as certain of the others?

From my reading of the roles, there are any number that have/or can manipulate an increase or decrease in the votes a player can cast. I don’t think close wagons are a good strategy at all.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:10 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:08 pm The way I see it, I’m out of this game in a hour’s time when those bastards come for me again. I would at least like to take one of them out before I leave the game. I keep getting a bad vibe from JoH and it’s been getting worse as the game goes on. For now, that’s where I’ll place my vote. Am open to being convinced otherwise if someone would care to put a case.

Who are those bastards?

The Mafia. I was apparently their target last night - I assume they’ll be back for me tonight?

The way I see it, I’m out of this game in a hour’s time when those bastards come for me again. I would at least like to take one of them out before I leave the game. I keep getting a bad vibe from JoH and it’s been getting worse as the game goes on. For now, that’s where I’ll place my vote. Am open to being convinced otherwise if someone would care to put a case.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:27 pm i am like 99.7 percent sure lapluie doesn't have information on dunya

Yes, after Lapluie’s most recent posts, I think it’s pretty clear that is the case - she had an opportunity there if she had concrete info to reveal it. As a result, the case against Dunya (in my eyes at least) has collapsed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:23 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:20 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:17 pm @dunya
This game is frustrating as is there is no need to use vulgar language towards me, what the hell? if you want to get me out of game because I'm ruining it then do it, vote for me all of you & lynch me I give up. I'm honestly devastated as to what's happening already by so much back lash into this, its really frustrating to communicate with most of you around here. W.e im voting myself.

Lap, don't get discouraged.

I think you're doing a good job here regardless of your alignment, especially in the last day.

Dunya and I are just out to catch some (in universe) no good baddies that are trying to kill us or our friends. Or we're pretending to do so. Nobody wants you gone for any reason except maybe you're killing our friends or maybe you'd make a good fall person so we can get away with killing everyone else. Nobody is upset with you on a personal level and I'm sorry if I came across as rude.

Maphier

I honestly can’t say I disagree with this assessment. And Jack continues his slide...

Ermac wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:46 am We are now in a position to reveal some of what we know about the events of this realm. The Mafia night kill target last night was indeed your fair Elven prince.

What the hell? Bunch of #^*$ing cowards! It’s not like they couldn’t lynch someone who was actually making an impact on this game I don’t know how much credence we can place in what this guy says but if it’s true, I assume that makes me one of the confirmed Townies that he referred to in an earlier post?

I’ve had a brief read over the thread to catch up (after falling asleep straight after posting last night, sorry) and I don’t think I like the push on Simon. Maybe it’s just that ‘10 year old’ thing that always dissuades me but the guy (in my experience) always posts so little content he’s easy to push as a mis-lynch. There’s minimal if any engagement and frankly, while he could be bad, I’m not seeing any evidence of it right now and he could just as well be good.

I like Jay. I don’t think he’s bad and I honestly don’t want him to be. I also didn’t buy Lapluie’s case against Dunya until I read LC’s more recent posts on the matter. I think the theory that Lapluie’s gained some knowledge on Dunya’s identity/alignment overnight sounds potentially like it might hold water. I think Dunya is a lovely person (she’s been very kind to me) but I’ll seriously consider this case before voting today.

I’ve been watching Kyle closely and I’ve got to admit, his performance more recently seems really genuine and it seems to me like there is a level of commitment there that looks pretty damn Townie to me.

OK, Guys - sorry, I’ve been somewhat preoccupied with other things since the start of this Day phase. I’m going to take some time to catch up but I just noticed this:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:33 am marmot is self voting

A good friend of mine whom I respect enormously once told me that a true Townie NEVER self votes. If you’re Town, there is no one else in the game ‘townier’ than you. Consequently, I’d be suspicious of our Marmot for doing that.

Isn’t it dawn?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:26 pm I, to this point, don't understand the case on Sig.

To be honest, neither do I. I’m probably more acquainted with Sig’s game than anyone here and in my judgement, I saw nothing that suggested to me he was Mafia. Indeed, I regret that I didn’t do more to defend him but considering my limited availability at EOD and the speed with which that train developed, any attempt on part to have save him would no doubt not have been very effective. @[mention]Sig[/mention]: Sorry, Buddy

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:50 am

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:40 am I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

What I figured and why I didn’t target there. This could have been cleared up if less people were completely debilitated.

On Glor: I’m trusting the prevailing meta read on Glor being town, but I really don’t want to.

And just why IS that, my friend?

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:36 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:31 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:17 am Well I'm not quite sure what I have to defend in this situation? If it was because I was clueless as to what has been happening, I was. Mortal kombat theme isn't even a game I've played once, ever so that alone was challenging, I figured it was part of the game to act according to everbody's erratic behaviours, what do I make of that?! I did notice at the very end Nutellas posts were givign some sort of clues, I figured that out on last day. Quin was just as confusing giving oriental menu prices, ignored him. Tony kept repeating iron man.. what?! Glorfindel was the only one I had to side with & go along with what is happening. I noticed also how I think (?) Speedchuck or was it jack who gave out "warning signs" whenever I had placed a vote as in I shouldn't have. That's all I got really. I placed vote on Simons because he looked very suspicious placing a vote on already a outnumbered lynch vote, with no reason but bandwagon. @j@Jackofhearts2005

Quin was rating posts. He told Nutella.

I was calling out disgusting scummy behavior.

LC called Tony out for voting for Glor when everybody has him as town.

Kyle and Dunya presented actual cases.

Two cursed players weighed in on everybody else.

I don't mean to be rude but...did you not catch any of that?

Some of it. Didn't pay much attention to every posts cause I thought it was just shit post, to be fair I wanted out until glorflindel came along.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:50 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:48 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:30 pm Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

I think with a little change, this has merit.

Feel free to reviseI. I'd like to see your list.

Sig’s participation isn’t great but is judgement is generally sound. He openly vouched for Lon Con (at a time that I recall he was taking some heat) so the fact that Sig was Town I think suggests he (Lon Con) could be a few places further up that list. I’m also slightly perplexed as to why Novasalinever is ranked so high, I can’t recall anything from them to justify that. I don’t know that I’d rate JoH quite THAT high and I’ll confess, I’m really starting to warm to Kyle.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:30 pm Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

I think with a little change, this has merit.

And here I was hoping to get Mod-killed for excessive whining... Thank you, Guys!

[mention]@Quin[/mention]: Am I correct in assuming that you were trying to say that you were suspicious of me that last Day phase?

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:12 pm I'd like everyone who was cursed to explain what their curse was and why they think they were given that exact curse.

I'd like everyone who wasn't cursed to explain why they think they weren't cursed.

I have no clue. As I alluded to earlier, Nutella seemed to be suggesting that I was protected or something but I have no evidence of that being the case.

Thank God that’s OVER!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:41 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:26 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:56 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:35 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:28 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:10 pm I heard this hosts a bitch....


that players list....

You want in?

You need a replacement? Cause, I have a hard time listening ...

I have need of a replacement, yes. You in?

Ladies and bitches, rabbit8 is replacing birdwithteeth11.

Welcome, rabbit8!

My vote on this matter should be considered inconsequential for reasons that I have outlined earlier.

I have extensive history with Sig in Mafia games going back many years and no one would be happier to lynch him than I (not that I’m in anywa vindictive, you understand). Again, he is afflicted and I don’t really think the case against him is strong.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:29 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:44 am However I feel that Nutella is trying to give us clues? maybe we should listen to her. She has casted her vote on tony .

7 am, alarm goes off
Man, I'm tired, I don't wanna get up
Only one thing to look forward to
My Nutella sandwich at twenty to
Go down stairs, get a knife
Nutella for brekkie, that sounds nice
IT'S BREAKFAST, most important meal of the day
Nutella sammich, is there any other way?
First step, you gotta find some bread
Second step, you gotta toast that shhh
Third step, put the knife in the Nutella

How thoroughly macabre?

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:42 am

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:02 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:11 am Interesting. ... its crystal clear now

I trust you have not succumbed to the abject insanity of this game this Day phase?

I dont trust anyone in this game here anymore! youre the only sane one here & im trusting you on that. what should we do?

I fear that you are wrong, my friend - there are indeed people in this game you can trust. Just because they are forced to post nonsense doesn’t make them bad (at least not as bad as any Townie who imprudently uses such an ability to stifle discussion and strangle any chance of us trying to deduce the identity of our Outworld friends). It appears that there aren’t many of us who are unaffected - perhaps we have been isolated or protected from the effects of this Chaosrealm thing for some reason - I think Nutella seemed to be suggesting that to be the case.

There are a number of players here of whom I still harbour suspicion but I think it is dishonourable to take advantage of their absence or their inability to post normally (and by that, I mean posting sheer nonsense). I understand that I’m probably the only one playing who’d take that approach but so be it. A vote from me for anyone in that situation is a clear sign that my vote is not my own and that brings me to another point - there are roles listed at the beginning of this thread that are able to redirect or control the votes of others as standard abilities and who knows how many more that may be of the hidden or secret variety. Throw into the mix the number of roles that can reduce or increase the value of other player’s votes and that makes the Votecount for all intents and purposes completely worthless as a tool for any legitimate analysis.

For all that, we may as well start lynching alphabetically and put the fate of the game in the hands of chance. I agree with you though - these games are hard enough and frustrating enough without this nonsense. My apologies if I sound pissed off but I am.

Well, isn’t this a waste of time? I’ve just been going over a few things and have concluded that any attempts to apply logic to the events this day phase are a complete and utter waste of my time. All these nonsense (or artificial) curses have ruined this game this Day phase. The few posts that have been made so far have been spectacularly devoid of any discernable reason or point. It has been a revelation and a free ride to our Mafia friends and handed them a significant advantage in this game overall - and all of these stupid curses are to blame. I am so disgusted at this.

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:11 am Interesting. ... its crystal clear now

I trust you have not succumbed to the abject insanity of this game this Day phase?

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:16 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:13 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:10 pm Thank God @Glorfindel the only post I understand so far

It’s starting to look like it’s just you and me, Kiddo...

Well what do you think of Tony's vote for you? & who will you be casting your vote on?

I’m pretty sure I addressed Tony’s vote on me a page or so back. Either he has no choice in the matter or he’s not rowing with both oars in the water. As for my vote, it’s not like I have any choice but I’m exploring my options right now. I must say that right now, I’m taking everyone with a severe posting affliction off the table. May I ask your thoughts?

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:10 pm Thank God @Glorfindel the only post I understand so far

It’s starting to look like it’s just you and me, Kiddo...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:34 pm

dunya is replacing Gumshoe.

Oh, please forgive my lack of courtesy, dunya - a very warm welcome to you to this place of insanity

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:44 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:14 am birdwithteeth11

Steamed Rice (L) - $3.00

"This is slavery, not to speak one's thought."

- Euripides

Trying to improve by learning from others that is what calls friendship.

Come to little Mexico you won't survive
Cause all these other rappers all they rap is lies

OK, this is our strongest indication yet that all these stupid posting restrictions are ‘realm-related’ - no one was ever going to target Gumshoe with something like this.

OK, let’s try and analyse what is happening here in this fog of nonsense and frustration...

The only role that has the standard ability to “make someone insane with a curse of her choice (and force that player to vote in accordance with her bidding) is Sindel. It is conceivable then (given the number of players cursed with this utterly stupid mechanic) that:

1) one of our afflicted friends may be Scorpion and they and their target were the victims of an insanity curse and

2) given that we have at least six players afflicted by this nonsense (i.e. JackofHearts2005, JaggedJimmyJay, Kylemii, Nutella (???), Quin and now Sig) I think it’s likely that at least four of these victims were targeted with secret ‘one-off’ abilities that I hope we will not see again after this Day phase. I’d just like to say at this point, given that Sindel is supposed to be a Town role, the use of your ability is NOT conducive in ANY WAY to helping us solve this game and the best thing you can do for your team is to DESIST from using that ability from this point forward. If you can’t see that, then you’re not helping our cause one little bit!

3) there may potentially be some influence here due to the Chaosrealm thing but looking at how everyone voted in the Night 0 poll, it’s not clearly evident to me.

I find it interesting (looking at the roles) that Jax disables his target from posting or voting. The only people that are yet to post so far today by my reckoning are (excluding birdwithteeth, Dom and Gumshoe who haven’t turned up at all): Simon (seriously, how on earth could you tell?), Dave and novaselinever. Again, this is another case where I can’t see how this role ‘helps’ us at all. The LAST THING we need in this game is to limit anyone’s ability to post in this thread and if you can’t see the logic there, you’re helping our Mafia friends more than us.

I guess the key message here is that we need to be more judicious in applying our abilities. Just because you have one, doesn’t necessarily mean that you have to use it. Please consider carefully the impact of your abilities on what we need to do to win this game - anything you do that limits someone else from questioning or be questioned is working against our primary win condition.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]: I see you’ve voted for me? From that, I assume one of two things. Either:

A) You’re bad or

B) This is one of those stupid vote re-direction things because no Townie in their right mind would do something so obviously errant.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:46 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:52 am Nutella: Mildly afflicted (claimed, not evident)

"Not evident"? Are you not seeing this wonderful gift that the chaosrealm has given me? It was kind enough to offer me something that's a bit easier to work content into than what other players have gotten, but I believe I have put my gift to use pretty noticeably in all of my participation today.

Well, it's the thought that counts. Thanks Glorfindel for trying, even though maybe you don't quite get me. But why do you think you didn't get a present? Are you on Santa's naughty list?

And did Lapluie really also not get a present, or is hers perhaps actually something like "act bewildered"?

Perhaps I should take another look at what we know of the roles; maybe the Chaosrealm doesn't know everybody's address and so some certain people missed out on the exchange. Or maybe Made was right and the mail was intercepted.

1. No, I don’t get it at all.

2. No, I have no clue what you mean about me not getting a ‘present’.

3. I think you’ve lost the plot.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:16 pm "Act your wage."

- @Dave Ramsey

"Guilt is cancer. Guilt will confine you, torture you, destroy you as an artist. It's a black wall. It's a thief."

- @Dave Grohl.

"There's no one to stop you but yourself."

- @Dave Thomas

"The hardest thing to do is to be true to yourself, especially when everybody is watching."

- @Dave Chappelle

OK, think I got the message there, Jay

So let’s see what we have here:

Birdwithteeth: Confirmed absent
Dave: Day 2 absent
Dom: Day 2 absent
Dr Wilgy: Day 2 absent
Elohcin : Day 2 absent
Glorfindel
Gumshoe: Confirmed absent
JackofHearts2005: Likely afflicted
JaggedJimmyJay: Severely afflicted
Kylemii: Severely afflicted
Lapluie
Lon Con
Made
Marmot: Day 2 absent
novaselinever: Day 2 absent
Nutella: Mildly afflicted (claimed, not evident)
Quin: Severely afflicted
Sig: Day 2 absent
Simon: Day 2 absent
Speedchuck:
TonyStarkPrime

Sorry, but I am seriously beginning to wonder why I’m bothering...?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:02 am Long Coffing used sketch!
it's not very effective

kylechu is confused
it hurt itself in confusion

This must be frustrating for you Kyle because I can tell you, it’s excruciating for me to see you do this. I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but this is just ridiculous. What is to be gained from this? How are we meant to discern your alignment (or anyone else likewise afflicted) when you are like this? I sense you are trying really hard despite the temptation to abandon this lunacy and I respect you enormously for your continued efforts. I look forward to the time that I can once again converse with you normally.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:23 am

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:34 am @Quin and @ Kylemii: As much as I harbour serious suspicions against both of you, I will NOT cast a vote against either of you this Day phase on principle. Just thought you should know - at this point I will not take advantage of your impediments and

Glorfasaur used helping-hand!
It's super effective!
Kylemiichu used gratitude!

I condemn those players that foisted these intolerable conditions upon you.

Glorfasaur used condemn!
......
But it failed.
Chaosrealm used topsy-turvy!
It's super effective.

If I understand you correctly (and I believe I do) you are most welcome, my friend.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:51 am

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:49 am I wish more than anything that I was smart enough to understand what it is that you’re trying to say right now. Sadly, we’ve been robbed of one of our greatest assets

"Don't worry what people say or what people think. Be yourself."

- Brett Hull